Travis and Taylor

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Anonymous wrote:Spoiled kids getting all these cool stuff privileges. I’d be thrilled if she invites some disadvantaged children to her shows.

You know, that's interesting. Does Taylor invite disadvantaged kids to her concerts?

Are there any adult artists that set aside tickets for children?

Just rich ones mostly. Taylor is good about having celebrity kids photographed because we all love celebrities and it makes the show look even more appealing.

Smart marketing and PR.

Taylor has performed this show over 100 times, and I can recall has given the 22 hat to Selena's sister and the late Kobe Bryant's daughter. Which other celeb kids received the 22 hat? I've mostly noticed its generally a local child and/or one with an illness or disability. Yes, I stream almost all the shows.

Question for you since you have seen every show. I just read that Taylor doesn’t sing all the songs she has a track behind her to back her up? Is that true?

Not PP but no.

DP. So Taylor Swift has no backing tracks at all? This newsweek article covers recent lip sync accusations.

https://www.newsweek.com/taylor-swift-eras-tour-lip-syncing-viral-video-paris-1900803#:~:text=%22Only%20some%20%5Bperformances%5D%20are,all%20real%20performances%2C%20live.%22

She definitely lip syncs for parts of the show but doesn’t appear to in eras as much as she did on the rep tour.

All pop stars do this but Beyonce is the best at it. It’s obvious when Taylor is lipping.

It’s a gross overstatement to describe what she does as lip syncing. Or to suggest it goes beyond industry standard.

All stadium performers use some kind of backup. Taylor uses backup singers.

Part of why this is de rigeur is the way music is produced now. Albums are not direct recordings. Vocals get blended and adjusted. So in order to sound like what people think is their real voice, artists have to approximate this kind of production in live shows. Everybody does this. For ex:
https://www.nytimes.com/2012/06/30/arts/music/kuk-harrell-justin-biebers-vocal-producer.html?unlocked_article_code=1.2E0.urYt.Bz0sI0_qvCF5&smid=url-share

Taylor is first and foremost a songwriter, not a singer. She has never presented herself as a diva vocalist. She does not try to fake a vocal range she does not have.

This. And while she does have a backing track, it is also obvious that she is singing every night. She had a cold at our show last year and it was noticeable. We’ve streamed countless shows since and you can hear the imperfections and the beauty in her voice every night. she is not doing anything other than the industry standard.

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Another poster pointed out awhile back that many/most of her background singing is HER. On her recordings, she is harmonizing with herself. So a lot of her backing music is just her voice singing backups. She's doing the main singing herself at live shows.

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Anonymous wrote:TS is a critically acclaimed, multi award winning, billionaire singer songwriter with a 20 year career at the top of her game. She’s sold out actual stadiums all over the world. 8 million people like her instagram posts. She’s won every possible award. I don’t think she’s the massive sad so many of you want her to be because she doesn’t have your dusty husband and kids. Get over yourselves, my goodness.

Why are you taking this as a personal assault?

You have the facts right, but she is ALSO delivering a very practiced, high choreographed (down to finger pointing), high energy Stage show. But is isn’t a spontaneous rock or jam show.
She is really good at the stage show. But she isn’t focusing on the music itself and showing off derivatives of her songs. She is giving the fans a visually stunning live action music video, not a rock concert.

Why does that bother you? She doesn’t need to be everything, she clearly has won this. It is ok.

DP. Why on earth does the format of her shows bother YOU? She sings 44 songs for over three hours. I can't even imagine the energy and stamina it must take. Of course everything has to be highly rehearsed and planned for this to work - the dancing, costume changes, etc. Singers who do Las Vegas residencies, playing the same show night after night, have to do it this way too.

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Anonymous wrote:Spoiled kids getting all these cool stuff privileges. I’d be thrilled if she invites some disadvantaged children to her shows.

You know, that's interesting. Does Taylor invite disadvantaged kids to her concerts?

Are there any adult artists that set aside tickets for children?

Just rich ones mostly. Taylor is good about having celebrity kids photographed because we all love celebrities and it makes the show look even more appealing.

Smart marketing and PR.

Taylor has performed this show over 100 times, and I can recall has given the 22 hat to Selena's sister and the late Kobe Bryant's daughter. Which other celeb kids received the 22 hat? I've mostly noticed its generally a local child and/or one with an illness or disability. Yes, I stream almost all the shows.

Question for you since you have seen every show. I just read that Taylor doesn’t sing all the songs she has a track behind her to back her up? Is that true?

Not PP but no.

DP. So Taylor Swift has no backing tracks at all? This newsweek article covers recent lip sync accusations.

https://www.newsweek.com/taylor-swift-eras-tour-lip-syncing-viral-video-paris-1900803#:~:text=%22Only%20some%20%5Bperformances%5D%20are,all%20real%20performances%2C%20live.%22

She definitely lip syncs for parts of the show but doesn’t appear to in eras as much as she did on the rep tour.

All pop stars do this but Beyonce is the best at it. It’s obvious when Taylor is lipping.

It’s a gross overstatement to describe what she does as lip syncing. Or to suggest it goes beyond industry standard.

All stadium performers use some kind of backup. Taylor uses backup singers.

Part of why this is de rigeur is the way music is produced now. Albums are not direct recordings. Vocals get blended and adjusted. So in order to sound like what people think is their real voice, artists have to approximate this kind of production in live shows. Everybody does this. For ex:
https://www.nytimes.com/2012/06/30/arts/music/kuk-harrell-justin-biebers-vocal-producer.html?unlocked_article_code=1.2E0.urYt.Bz0sI0_qvCF5&smid=url-share

Taylor is first and foremost a songwriter, not a singer. She has never presented herself as a diva vocalist. She does not try to fake a vocal range she does not have.

Exactly. She also is dancing around and singing for THREE HOURS. Of course she would have to have SOME lip sync tracks. Clearly it doesnt affect anyone's desire to see her live

Dancing is a stretch. More like skipping around.
Bono moves a lot on stage too, but his band doesn’t use backing tracks. Ever.

No musician has ever performed a 3.5 hr concert 150 times. I’m not sure why you continue to poke at the smallest things. I’d take the addition of back tracks for what she does over the 90 min show that most bands are doing these days.

The thing I have always enjoyed about concerts is that they can be spontaneous. Musicians can play off the crowd, change songs, decide to do something different mid stream. After hearing everyone talk about Taylor’s concerts, hers are more of the choreographed variety. People have even mentioned her finger gestures as the same. I understand it is probably an amazing show, but it is like the Amusement park shows: a rehearsed extravaganza. That has its place, but that is also the genre she is in.

Other musicians mix it up and to me the spontaneous nature of their shows add to the joy I get out of it.

What are you talking about? She does spontaneous things at every concert. That's why there's hundreds of thousands that live stream every concert. Her speeches change, the surprise songs ALWAYS change, sometimes she hits a different note and winks (sending crazy Swifties into easter egg rabbit holes). But she herself has said that she wanted to make sure that certain aspects are very choreographed and rehearsed so she doesn't have to "think" and instead it allows her to be more spontaneous.

I don't understand why people who really don't know what they're talking about keep making statements that are untrue because of something they've "heard". What are you getting out of spreading a false narrative?

You mean the secret songs? That is like 2 songs hence why they were “secret” they were the only different things. She has a multi decade play list to choose from, but only changes a few songs and repeats those. It is fine and she does an amazing job. There is no way to change all the dancing and sets etc. But she absolutely isn’t doing a spontaneous concert. Many rock artists have entirely different set lists. They change songs in the middle, they play with the crowd during the song, change tempos add in another song or riff off of one to introduce another. She can’t with the amount of props, dancers and back up vocals, it is almost all the same. WHy is that hard for you?

To quote my co workers who went to multiple concerts, “I mean it was the same thing each time, but I still really enjoyed it.”

DP. Your repetitive posts are beyond tiresome. No one *ever* claimed she was doing a spontaneous concert, but she is certainly able to have spontaneous moments with the audience because the whole show is so well-rehearsed.

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Anonymous wrote:Spoiled kids getting all these cool stuff privileges. I’d be thrilled if she invites some disadvantaged children to her shows.

You know, that's interesting. Does Taylor invite disadvantaged kids to her concerts?

Are there any adult artists that set aside tickets for children?

Just rich ones mostly. Taylor is good about having celebrity kids photographed because we all love celebrities and it makes the show look even more appealing.

Smart marketing and PR.

Taylor has performed this show over 100 times, and I can recall has given the 22 hat to Selena's sister and the late Kobe Bryant's daughter. Which other celeb kids received the 22 hat? I've mostly noticed its generally a local child and/or one with an illness or disability. Yes, I stream almost all the shows.

Question for you since you have seen every show. I just read that Taylor doesn’t sing all the songs she has a track behind her to back her up? Is that true?

Not PP but no.

DP. So Taylor Swift has no backing tracks at all? This newsweek article covers recent lip sync accusations.

https://www.newsweek.com/taylor-swift-eras-tour-lip-syncing-viral-video-paris-1900803#:~:text=%22Only%20some%20%5Bperformances%5D%20are,all%20real%20performances%2C%20live.%22

She definitely lip syncs for parts of the show but doesn’t appear to in eras as much as she did on the rep tour.

All pop stars do this but Beyonce is the best at it. It’s obvious when Taylor is lipping.

It’s a gross overstatement to describe what she does as lip syncing. Or to suggest it goes beyond industry standard.

All stadium performers use some kind of backup. Taylor uses backup singers.

Part of why this is de rigeur is the way music is produced now. Albums are not direct recordings. Vocals get blended and adjusted. So in order to sound like what people think is their real voice, artists have to approximate this kind of production in live shows. Everybody does this. For ex:
https://www.nytimes.com/2012/06/30/arts/music/kuk-harrell-justin-biebers-vocal-producer.html?unlocked_article_code=1.2E0.urYt.Bz0sI0_qvCF5&smid=url-share

Taylor is first and foremost a songwriter, not a singer. She has never presented herself as a diva vocalist. She does not try to fake a vocal range she does not have.

Exactly. She also is dancing around and singing for THREE HOURS. Of course she would have to have SOME lip sync tracks. Clearly it doesnt affect anyone's desire to see her live

Dancing is a stretch. More like skipping around.
Bono moves a lot on stage too, but his band doesn’t use backing tracks. Ever.

No musician has ever performed a 3.5 hr concert 150 times. I’m not sure why you continue to poke at the smallest things. I’d take the addition of back tracks for what she does over the 90 min show that most bands are doing these days.

The thing I have always enjoyed about concerts is that they can be spontaneous. Musicians can play off the crowd, change songs, decide to do something different mid stream. After hearing everyone talk about Taylor’s concerts, hers are more of the choreographed variety. People have even mentioned her finger gestures as the same. I understand it is probably an amazing show, but it is like the Amusement park shows: a rehearsed extravaganza. That has its place, but that is also the genre she is in.

Other musicians mix it up and to me the spontaneous nature of their shows add to the joy I get out of it.

What are you talking about? She does spontaneous things at every concert. That's why there's hundreds of thousands that live stream every concert. Her speeches change, the surprise songs ALWAYS change, sometimes she hits a different note and winks (sending crazy Swifties into easter egg rabbit holes). But she herself has said that she wanted to make sure that certain aspects are very choreographed and rehearsed so she doesn't have to "think" and instead it allows her to be more spontaneous.

I don't understand why people who really don't know what they're talking about keep making statements that are untrue because of something they've "heard". What are you getting out of spreading a false narrative?

You mean the secret songs? That is like 2 songs hence why they were “secret” they were the only different things. She has a multi decade play list to choose from, but only changes a few songs and repeats those. It is fine and she does an amazing job. There is no way to change all the dancing and sets etc. But she absolutely isn’t doing a spontaneous concert. Many rock artists have entirely different set lists. They change songs in the middle, they play with the crowd during the song, change tempos add in another song or riff off of one to introduce another. She can’t with the amount of props, dancers and back up vocals, it is almost all the same. WHy is that hard for you?

To quote my co workers who went to multiple concerts, “I mean it was the same thing each time, but I still really enjoyed it.”

DP. Your repetitive posts are beyond tiresome. No one *ever* claimed she was doing a spontaneous concert, but she is certainly able to have spontaneous moments with the audience because the whole show is so well-rehearsed.

I am sorry to be tiresome especially since we seem to agree!

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The most recent photos of their outing - her eyes are closed in each one, lol.

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Great interview recorded June 16 with Travis on “Bussin’ with the Boys.” He talks about what made him really fall for Taylor, ranks his favorite Taylor songs, talks about what it’s like at her shows, “That’s my girl, that’s my lady.”

This is the real thing folks.

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Anonymous wrote:Great interview recorded June 16 with Travis on “Bussin’ with the Boys.” He talks about what made him really fall for Taylor, ranks his favorite Taylor songs, talks about what it’s like at her shows, “That’s my girl, that’s my lady.”

This is the real thing folks.

One of the clips is posted on the previous page

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Anonymous wrote:Great interview recorded June 16 with Travis on “Bussin’ with the Boys.” He talks about what made him really fall for Taylor, ranks his favorite Taylor songs, talks about what it’s like at her shows, “That’s my girl, that’s my lady.”

This is the real thing folks.

Also goes to show you how people fall for stuff they read online. He said his own dad called him after reading something on Facebook asking if everything was OK with him and Taylor recently. He’s like, stay off Facebook dad!

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Travis is so inarticulate. He struggled to articulate why he fell for Taylor. I don’t think that interview proved anything about them being true love.

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Anonymous wrote:Travis is so inarticulate. He struggled to articulate why he fell for Taylor. I don’t think that interview proved anything about them being true love.

Again, people see what they want to see, hear what they want to hear. You have a preset opinion on him no matter what he says or does. Are you by any chance one of those Taylor and Matty diehards?

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Anonymous wrote:Travis is so inarticulate. He struggled to articulate why he fell for Taylor. I don’t think that interview proved anything about them being true love.

Again, people see what they want to see, hear what they want to hear. You have a preset opinion on him no matter what he says or does. Are you by any chance one of those Taylor and Matty diehards?

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There is literally nothing inarticulate about this. And he didn't struggle at all. WTH are you even talking about?

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Anonymous wrote:Travis is so inarticulate. He struggled to articulate why he fell for Taylor. I don’t think that interview proved anything about them being true love.

Again, people see what they want to see, hear what they want to hear. You have a preset opinion on him no matter what he says or does. Are you by any chance one of those Taylor and Matty diehards?

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There is literally nothing inarticulate about this. And he didn't struggle at all. WTH are you even talking about?

I don’t get this take either. It’s fine if people don’t like him or they wish she was with someone else. However, he never struggles when interviewed or in front of a camera.

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Anonymous wrote:Travis is so inarticulate. He struggled to articulate why he fell for Taylor. I don’t think that interview proved anything about them being true love.

Haha what?! Not what I got out of that at all. He's there talking to friends- it was a casual conversation.

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Anonymous wrote:Spoiled kids getting all these cool stuff privileges. I’d be thrilled if she invites some disadvantaged children to her shows.

You know, that's interesting. Does Taylor invite disadvantaged kids to her concerts?

Are there any adult artists that set aside tickets for children?

Just rich ones mostly. Taylor is good about having celebrity kids photographed because we all love celebrities and it makes the show look even more appealing.

Smart marketing and PR.

Taylor has performed this show over 100 times, and I can recall has given the 22 hat to Selena's sister and the late Kobe Bryant's daughter. Which other celeb kids received the 22 hat? I've mostly noticed its generally a local child and/or one with an illness or disability. Yes, I stream almost all the shows.

Question for you since you have seen every show. I just read that Taylor doesn’t sing all the songs she has a track behind her to back her up? Is that true?

Not PP but no.

DP. So Taylor Swift has no backing tracks at all? This newsweek article covers recent lip sync accusations.

https://www.newsweek.com/taylor-swift-eras-tour-lip-syncing-viral-video-paris-1900803#:~:text=%22Only%20some%20%5Bperformances%5D%20are,all%20real%20performances%2C%20live.%22

She definitely lip syncs for parts of the show but doesn’t appear to in eras as much as she did on the rep tour.

All pop stars do this but Beyonce is the best at it. It’s obvious when Taylor is lipping.

It’s a gross overstatement to describe what she does as lip syncing. Or to suggest it goes beyond industry standard.

All stadium performers use some kind of backup. Taylor uses backup singers.

Part of why this is de rigeur is the way music is produced now. Albums are not direct recordings. Vocals get blended and adjusted. So in order to sound like what people think is their real voice, artists have to approximate this kind of production in live shows. Everybody does this. For ex:
https://www.nytimes.com/2012/06/30/arts/music/kuk-harrell-justin-biebers-vocal-producer.html?unlocked_article_code=1.2E0.urYt.Bz0sI0_qvCF5&smid=url-share

Taylor is first and foremost a songwriter, not a singer. She has never presented herself as a diva vocalist. She does not try to fake a vocal range she does not have.

Exactly. She also is dancing around and singing for THREE HOURS. Of course she would have to have SOME lip sync tracks. Clearly it doesnt affect anyone's desire to see her live

Dancing is a stretch. More like skipping around.
Bono moves a lot on stage too, but his band doesn’t use backing tracks. Ever.

No musician has ever performed a 3.5 hr concert 150 times. I’m not sure why you continue to poke at the smallest things. I’d take the addition of back tracks for what she does over the 90 min show that most bands are doing these days.

The thing I have always enjoyed about concerts is that they can be spontaneous. Musicians can play off the crowd, change songs, decide to do something different mid stream. After hearing everyone talk about Taylor’s concerts, hers are more of the choreographed variety. People have even mentioned her finger gestures as the same. I understand it is probably an amazing show, but it is like the Amusement park shows: a rehearsed extravaganza. That has its place, but that is also the genre she is in.

Other musicians mix it up and to me the spontaneous nature of their shows add to the joy I get out of it.

What are you talking about? She does spontaneous things at every concert. That's why there's hundreds of thousands that live stream every concert. Her speeches change, the surprise songs ALWAYS change, sometimes she hits a different note and winks (sending crazy Swifties into easter egg rabbit holes). But she herself has said that she wanted to make sure that certain aspects are very choreographed and rehearsed so she doesn't have to "think" and instead it allows her to be more spontaneous.

I don't understand why people who really don't know what they're talking about keep making statements that are untrue because of something they've "heard". What are you getting out of spreading a false narrative?

You mean the secret songs? That is like 2 songs hence why they were “secret” they were the only different things. She has a multi decade play list to choose from, but only changes a few songs and repeats those. It is fine and she does an amazing job. There is no way to change all the dancing and sets etc. But she absolutely isn’t doing a spontaneous concert. Many rock artists have entirely different set lists. They change songs in the middle, they play with the crowd during the song, change tempos add in another song or riff off of one to introduce another. She can’t with the amount of props, dancers and back up vocals, it is almost all the same. WHy is that hard for you?

To quote my co workers who went to multiple concerts, “I mean it was the same thing each time, but I still really enjoyed it.”

DP. Your repetitive posts are beyond tiresome. No one *ever* claimed she was doing a spontaneous concert, but she is certainly able to have spontaneous moments with the audience because the whole show is so well-rehearsed.

PP -- no there are almost no rock artists that change up shows on their tours. Have you ever toured?

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Anonymous wrote:Travis is so inarticulate. He struggled to articulate why he fell for Taylor. I don’t think that interview proved anything about them being true love.

He is really articulate. Actually unexpectedly so. Can you describe why you fell for your SO in front of friends? I wouldn;'t even answer the question.