Selective colleges are taking fewer from kids Private and Boarding every year and more from public

[Anonymous]

according to my consultant (who used to do admissions at a top 3). She said it's bc enrollment management analyzes metrics (she wouldn't say specifically but said it's more than just grades) but professors and TAs are involved and so are resident advisors and that's part of the reason it's getting harder and harder to get in. She also said that going to a non-brand public is better than going to a big name public.

[Anonymous]

She is trying to reset your expectations.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:She is trying to reset your expectations.

I already have a kid in Ivy, I'm using her again for my 7th grade son bc we relocated to a new city and need advice. My dd made it into her school through recruitment.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:She is trying to reset your expectations.

I already have a kid in Ivy, I'm using her again for my 7th grade son bc we relocated to a new city and need advice. My dd made it into her school through recruitment.

you mean sports?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:according to my consultant (who used to do admissions at a top 3). She said it's bc enrollment management analyzes metrics (she wouldn't say specifically but said it's more than just grades) but professors and TAs are involved and so are resident advisors and that's part of the reason it's getting harder and harder to get in. She also said that going to a non-brand public is better than going to a big name public.

So you're saying professors and RAs want fewer private school kids?

[Anonymous]

This is BS. Sorry. Look at the college list for St. Albans or Choate.

[Anonymous]

TAs and RAs are involved with what exactly?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:She is trying to reset your expectations.

+1

[Anonymous]

Certainly the percentage of freshman at Ivies from public schools has been growing . Many of those kids come from the increasing number of selective magnets, as more cities nationwide have them now. I've been interviewing for an Ivy in this area for 20 years. A lot of the kids who are truly scaling the academic heights come out of Thomas Jefferson and Blair. Oxford and Cambridge Universities have stated that the kids earning first class degrees (their equivalent of highest honors) are disproportionately from state schools. Those kids had the same admissions scores,but attained them with less handholding than students from independent schools.

That said, we still take quite a few from the privates, but few besides Sidwell and GDS have a consistent track record. The admissions offices see through gimmicks, like the fact that St Albans' literary magazine has four coeditors in chief.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:She is trying to reset your expectations.

I already have a kid in Ivy, I'm using her again for my 7th grade son bc we relocated to a new city and need advice. My dd made it into her school through recruitment.

What are the chances of your 7th grader making it to an Ivy through recruitment? If small, then she is trying to reset your expectations for that child in light of your experience with your child who is currently at an Ivy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Certainly the percentage of freshman at Ivies from public schools has been growing . Many of those kids come from the increasing number of selective magnets, as more cities nationwide have them now. I've been interviewing for an Ivy in this area for 20 years. A lot of the kids who are truly scaling the academic heights come out of Thomas Jefferson and Blair. Oxford and Cambridge Universities have stated that the kids earning first class degrees (their equivalent of highest honors) are disproportionately from state schools. Those kids had the same admissions scores,but attained them with less handholding than students from independent schools.

That said, we still take quite a few from the privates, but few besides Sidwell and GDS have a consistent track record. The admissions offices see through gimmicks, like the fact that St Albans' literary magazine has four coeditors in chief.

You say "we still take"... Are you in the admissions department at an Ivy?

[Anonymous]

Yes, factually true (and has been for a long time).

[Anonymous]

A college consultant for a 7th grader? Like, a 12 year old?

God, people are so bizarre.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Certainly the percentage of freshman at Ivies from public schools has been growing . Many of those kids come from the increasing number of selective magnets, as more cities nationwide have them now. I've been interviewing for an Ivy in this area for 20 years. A lot of the kids who are truly scaling the academic heights come out of Thomas Jefferson and Blair. Oxford and Cambridge Universities have stated that the kids earning first class degrees (their equivalent of highest honors) are disproportionately from state schools. Those kids had the same admissions scores,but attained them with less handholding than students from independent schools.

That said, we still take quite a few from the privates, but few besides Sidwell and GDS have a consistent track record. The admissions offices see through gimmicks, like the fact that St Albans' literary magazine has four coeditors in chief.

This is true but misleading in the context of your post and this overall thread. Oxford and Cambridge continue to admit primarily from private schools. I don't know the ratio for each and every college but its roughly 75%-80% private with the rest coming from state schools. Kings College Cambridge has always traditionally drawn more from the state schools and is attractive to state school applicants for that fact, but its still only something like 50/50.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This is BS. Sorry. Look at the college list for St. Albans or Choate.

And this would tell you what exactly about the subject at hand?