Travel Soccer teams around NOVA let's discuss Part II

[Anonymous]

30 minutes halves at the higher age groups are a blasphemy. What are these tournaments doing???

[Anonymous]

Well, if you have a group of players that you are starting to imprint a system of play with, create rhythm and tempo in attack, and then you throw a really good athlete in to the mix who is still figuring out how to control the ball, they have to look down all the time and can't focus on anything else... so the play breaks down. Yeah maybe you can throw them as a target forward or an outside back at best.

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Anonymous wrote:When you play in a U10 age group with a mix of U9 and U10 players, you are asking for trouble. If you went up against a "true" U10 team there were probably big physical and skill differences that the U9's couldn't keep up with... especially if the other teams had U10 players that were more physically developed or born earlier in their birth year.

I get your point, but I think this is where Soccer differs from other sports. IQ and grit will always beat out speed and strength. I've seen little guys (compared to other kids on the pitch) kill it on the field. A quick double cut and they are off.

Not at U10, unless the whole team is more skilled than the opponent.

For development, of course, you want IQ, grit and skills. But in terms of a matchup, it's pretty rare that the less athletic team dominates a U10 game. Just the nature of the beast.

Soccer is a sport ...speed, strength, endurance, quickness, soccer iq, etc are all selected for as you move up the age and skill groups. As the kids hit puberty and mature they get sorted out. It happens in all sports. You can have all the Rudies you want but in the end you will lose if you go against elite athletes. Speed is really important because it allows you to recover from mistakes.

Does skill ever factor in or is just about a 40 yard dash?

Speed is a skill -- an athletic skill.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:When you play in a U10 age group with a mix of U9 and U10 players, you are asking for trouble. If you went up against a "true" U10 team there were probably big physical and skill differences that the U9's couldn't keep up with... especially if the other teams had U10 players that were more physically developed or born earlier in their birth year.

I get your point, but I think this is where Soccer differs from other sports. IQ and grit will always beat out speed and strength. I've seen little guys (compared to other kids on the pitch) kill it on the field. A quick double cut and they are off.

Not at U10, unless the whole team is more skilled than the opponent.

For development, of course, you want IQ, grit and skills. But in terms of a matchup, it's pretty rare that the less athletic team dominates a U10 game. Just the nature of the beast.

Soccer is a sport ...speed, strength, endurance, quickness, soccer iq, etc are all selected for as you move up the age and skill groups. As the kids hit puberty and mature they get sorted out. It happens in all sports. You can have all the Rudies you want but in the end you will lose if you go against elite athletes. Speed is really important because it allows you to recover from mistakes.

Does skill ever factor in or is just about a 40 yard dash?

Speed is a skill -- an athletic skill.

Speed is not a skill it is an attribute and is not one that can be taught. It can be improved upon through technique and form but everyone has a threshold of their personal top speed based on their genetics. Height is also an attribute that cannot be taught.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:30 minutes halves at the higher age groups are a blasphemy. What are these tournaments doing???

They are trying to squeeze as many games as they can onto the fields, so they can accept more teams, and collect more money.

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Anonymous wrote:30 minutes halves at the higher age groups are a blasphemy. What are these tournaments doing???

They are trying to squeeze as many games as they can onto the fields, so they can accept more teams, and collect more money.

This is the Hot Take of the day.

[Anonymous]

Not sure why New York Red Bulls is in the Atlantic region for boys DA but they sure are doing some thing right. They dominated all the age groups from u15 up this fall from the DA website. http://www.ussoccerda.com/sam/standings/league/standings.php?leagueId=MTAwNQ%3D%3D

[Anonymous]

Red Bull has a huge recruiting network and employs 200-250 coaches around the NY/NJ area that all work with other more local, community-based soccer clubs.

If players are ID'd out of that huge number, they get moved up to the DA team eventually.

[Anonymous]

Just curious why we care about the Red Bull’s when they are in NY and this is a metro DC board?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Just curious why we care about the Red Bull’s when they are in NY and this is a metro DC board?

Because our local DA teams play against them twice a year in the older age groups.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Just curious why we care about the Red Bull’s when they are in NY and this is a metro DC board?

Because our local DA teams play against them twice a year in the older age groups.

And maybe they are doing something better than the local team such as not having pay to play, or having a better recruiting/ID process with local clubs vs stealing them instead, and I'm sure many others.

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Anonymous wrote:Just curious why we care about the Red Bull’s when they are in NY and this is a metro DC board?

Because our local DA teams play against them twice a year in the older age groups.

And maybe they are doing something better than the local team such as not having pay to play, or having a better recruiting/ID process with local clubs vs stealing them instead, and I'm sure many others.

Does it matter here if they are doing something better if they are 200 miles away?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:When you play in a U10 age group with a mix of U9 and U10 players, you are asking for trouble. If you went up against a "true" U10 team there were probably big physical and skill differences that the U9's couldn't keep up with... especially if the other teams had U10 players that were more physically developed or born earlier in their birth year.

I get your point, but I think this is where Soccer differs from other sports. IQ and grit will always beat out speed and strength. I've seen little guys (compared to other kids on the pitch) kill it on the field. A quick double cut and they are off.

Not at U10, unless the whole team is more skilled than the opponent.

For development, of course, you want IQ, grit and skills. But in terms of a matchup, it's pretty rare that the less athletic team dominates a U10 game. Just the nature of the beast.

Soccer is a sport ...speed, strength, endurance, quickness, soccer iq, etc are all selected for as you move up the age and skill groups. As the kids hit puberty and mature they get sorted out. It happens in all sports. You can have all the Rudies you want but in the end you will lose if you go against elite athletes. Speed is really important because it allows you to recover from mistakes.

Does skill ever factor in or is just about a 40 yard dash?

Speed is a skill -- an athletic skill.

Speed is not a skill it is an attribute and is not one that can be taught. It can be improved upon through technique and form but everyone has a threshold of their personal top speed based on their genetics. Height is also an attribute that cannot be taught.

There are athletic skills and there are sport-specific technical skills. The first create a foundation for the second. That's just the way it is, no matter how slow your kid is.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Just curious why we care about the Red Bull’s when they are in NY and this is a metro DC board?

Because our local DA teams play against them twice a year in the older age groups.

And maybe they are doing something better than the local team such as not having pay to play, or having a better recruiting/ID process with local clubs vs stealing them instead, and I'm sure many others.

Does it matter here if they are doing something better if they are 200 miles away?

It may. If the local DA teams cannot do a good job developing players (comparing to other teams in their division) some may opt to play for their high schools which is much more fun.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Just curious why we care about the Red Bull’s when they are in NY and this is a metro DC board?

Because our local DA teams play against them twice a year in the older age groups.

And maybe they are doing something better than the local team such as not having pay to play, or having a better recruiting/ID process with local clubs vs stealing them instead, and I'm sure many others.

Does it matter here if they are doing something better if they are 200 miles away?

It depends whether you are someone who only cares about your own children and their immediate surroundings, vs. whether you are someone who is interested in improving soccer options and development for all children/promoting a real soccer culture in our country. The latter type of person tends to be very interested in any programs that seem to be effective at moving American players toward a level where they can compete internationally.

There are also families around here who move their kids to different programs around the country that they think will better prepare them for professional careers.