ICE Shooting in Minneapolis

[Anonymous]

The same people who spent yesterday, and the past five years, insisting a Black police officer who shot an insurrectionist breaking into the Capitol should be prosecuted are today bending over backwards to defend an ICE agent who shot a woman in her car in cold blood.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Retired ICE (HSI) Special Agent here. Retired over 10 years ago so I wasn’t a part of this current mess. A couple of thoughts:

1. Common sense 101 (and training provided at FLETC) dictates that you don’t escalate a situation. You also don’t use your body to block vehicles, reach into vehicles, or create situations that necessitate the use of deadly force. They are issued less than lethal devices that could have been deployed on her if she wasn’t cooperating. I also heard that a kid was in the car. Another no, no. Worst case scenario is you allow her to leave, follow her, attempt to pull her over and then arrest her if your intent is to charge her with obstruction.

2. There is a former Lowe’s security guard now facing life in prison for this exact scenario. He followed a shoplifter out to his vehicle, stood in front of it, and then opened fire when the guy attempted to leave.

3. At the very minimum, the facts should be presented to a grand jury and let them decide. The agent also needs to be fired.

4. Trump/Bondi/Noem have created this “do what you want” cowboy atmosphere for federal law enforcement officers. Same reason Bovino from Border Patrol runs around with a Napoleon complex. Unless of course you’re a Proud Boy or Ashlee Babbitt; then it’s ok to assault police officers (or blame the cops and charge them for protecting critical infrastructure).

I was the PP who posted something similar (I worked with LEO on criminal matters - including ICE). Thanks for posting this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why were they running at her vehicle?

I don’t understand why they didn’t just drive around her as the others did.

Because they were looking for a confrontation.

And what she was looking for? Lost in the middle of her trip to her hometown in Colorado?

She’d just moved to minneapolis from a small town in Colarado, she was a young 37 year old mom in search of a better life for her child. She was young, fresh off the farm, golden curls and a beautiful smile. She describes herself on instagram as loving poetry, being a mom and playing the guitar badly.

This was a simple midwestern mom
out for a milk run. She was clearly motioning cars to go around her so she could move off of an ice patch. She motioned for the ICE truck to go around too.

Before the Hot headed ICE incel starting cursing and screaming and grabbing her locked car door. Of course the door was locked she was on hear all modern cars locked upon belng put in gear. Plus all women lock their doors.

The situation was chaotic and she didn’t need to die. Mark my words this young white mom is going to be ICE’s George Floyd achilles heal.

Maga can forgive Trump for all manner of atrocities, but will they forgive him shooting a Midwestern, pretty young mom, out for a milk run.

Renee Good remember her name. This was predictable of course it’s happened before, when it happens to people
of color who look foreign, it’s forgivable, that’s what MAGA and the Republicans voted for but no one voted to see Renee Good, a young mom with the smile of an angel gunned down in the street.

If it can happen to her, it can happen to them. Is this the begging of the end?

This has to be the George Floyd moment, right? It's so terrible it's got to change things.

Yes stop resisting the police and both would probably still be alive

THEY ARE NOT THE POLICE.

They are masked men with guns who have been poorly trained for a job that exceeds their jurisdiction.

ICE are federal law enforcement officers.

Hitting a federal law enforcement officer with an SUV is assault with a deadly weapon. A video shown on CNN a few minutes ago clearly shows that the victim hit the ICE shooter with her SUV while trying to flee.

Their mission is immigration enforcement. Why are they shooting a white American woman?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:CNN just showed two videos of the incident. The second video clearly shows the victim hitting the ICE shooter with her SUV.

All of the videos have been posted on this thread. Are you talking about the one where she is going 2 miles per hour and the agent steps out of the way? Because that is that it showed.

No. She was going faster than the speed you stated and the video clearly shows that she hit the ICE agent with her SUV.

CNN shows two different videos of the incident. The second video shows the ICE agent being hit by the reckless driver trying to escape from law enforcement.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why were they running at her vehicle?

I don’t understand why they didn’t just drive around her as the others did.

Because they were looking for a confrontation.

And what she was looking for? Lost in the middle of her trip to her hometown in Colorado?

She’d just moved to minneapolis from a small town in Colarado, she was a young 37 year old mom in search of a better life for her child. She was young, fresh off the farm, golden curls and a beautiful smile. She describes herself on instagram as loving poetry, being a mom and playing the guitar badly.

This was a simple midwestern mom
out for a milk run. She was clearly motioning cars to go around her so she could move off of an ice patch. She motioned for the ICE truck to go around too.

Before the Hot headed ICE incel starting cursing and screaming and grabbing her locked car door. Of course the door was locked she was on hear all modern cars locked upon belng put in gear. Plus all women lock their doors.

The situation was chaotic and she didn’t need to die. Mark my words this young white mom is going to be ICE’s George Floyd achilles heal.

Maga can forgive Trump for all manner of atrocities, but will they forgive him shooting a Midwestern, pretty young mom, out for a milk run.

Renee Good remember her name. This was predictable of course it’s happened before, when it happens to people
of color who look foreign, it’s forgivable, that’s what MAGA and the Republicans voted for but no one voted to see Renee Good, a young mom with the smile of an angel gunned down in the street.

If it can happen to her, it can happen to them. Is this the begging of the end?

This has to be the George Floyd moment, right? It's so terrible it's got to change things.

Yes stop resisting the police and both would probably still be alive

THEY ARE NOT THE POLICE.

They are masked men with guns who have been poorly trained for a job that exceeds their jurisdiction.

ICE are federal law enforcement officers.

Hitting a federal law enforcement officer with an SUV is assault with a deadly weapon. A video shown on CNN a few minutes ago clearly shows that the victim hit the ICE shooter with her SUV while trying to flee.

No ICE is immigration enforcement. Seriously can you just stop. You know nothing yet keep post. Are you trying to be funny?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why were they running at her vehicle?

I don’t understand why they didn’t just drive around her as the others did.

Because they were looking for a confrontation.

And what she was looking for? Lost in the middle of her trip to her hometown in Colorado?

She’d just moved to minneapolis from a small town in Colarado, she was a young 37 year old mom in search of a better life for her child. She was young, fresh off the farm, golden curls and a beautiful smile. She describes herself on instagram as loving poetry, being a mom and playing the guitar badly.

This was a simple midwestern mom
out for a milk run. She was clearly motioning cars to go around her so she could move off of an ice patch. She motioned for the ICE truck to go around too.

Before the Hot headed ICE incel starting cursing and screaming and grabbing her locked car door. Of course the door was locked she was on hear all modern cars locked upon belng put in gear. Plus all women lock their doors.

The situation was chaotic and she didn’t need to die. Mark my words this young white mom is going to be ICE’s George Floyd achilles heal.

Maga can forgive Trump for all manner of atrocities, but will they forgive him shooting a Midwestern, pretty young mom, out for a milk run.

Renee Good remember her name. This was predictable of course it’s happened before, when it happens to people
of color who look foreign, it’s forgivable, that’s what MAGA and the Republicans voted for but no one voted to see Renee Good, a young mom with the smile of an angel gunned down in the street.

If it can happen to her, it can happen to them. Is this the begging of the end?

This has to be the George Floyd moment, right? It's so terrible it's got to change things.

Yes stop resisting the police and both would probably still be alive

THEY ARE NOT THE POLICE.

They are masked men with guns who have been poorly trained for a job that exceeds their jurisdiction.

ICE are federal law enforcement officers.

Hitting a federal law enforcement officer with an SUV is assault with a deadly weapon. A video shown on CNN a few minutes ago clearly shows that the victim hit the ICE shooter with her SUV while trying to flee.

DHS policy is clear. Don't approach a vehicle from the front. Don't shoot at moving vehicles.

And, as one expert already pointed out, only one shot was from the front and two were from the side. He continued to track her and wasn't reasonably in fear

No doubt deadly force was unjustified and reckless in this particular case. Firing three shots at those angles with other officers and bystanders around compounds the negligence. 98% of law enforcement officers will tell you discharging your firearm in this circumstance is unjustified and the other 2% are idiot cowards undeserving of their badge.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why were they running at her vehicle?

I don’t understand why they didn’t just drive around her as the others did.

Because they were looking for a confrontation.

And what she was looking for? Lost in the middle of her trip to her hometown in Colorado?

She’d just moved to minneapolis from a small town in Colarado, she was a young 37 year old mom in search of a better life for her child. She was young, fresh off the farm, golden curls and a beautiful smile. She describes herself on instagram as loving poetry, being a mom and playing the guitar badly.

This was a simple midwestern mom
out for a milk run. She was clearly motioning cars to go around her so she could move off of an ice patch. She motioned for the ICE truck to go around too.

Before the Hot headed ICE incel starting cursing and screaming and grabbing her locked car door. Of course the door was locked she was on hear all modern cars locked upon belng put in gear. Plus all women lock their doors.

The situation was chaotic and she didn’t need to die. Mark my words this young white mom is going to be ICE’s George Floyd achilles heal.

Maga can forgive Trump for all manner of atrocities, but will they forgive him shooting a Midwestern, pretty young mom, out for a milk run.

Renee Good remember her name. This was predictable of course it’s happened before, when it happens to people
of color who look foreign, it’s forgivable, that’s what MAGA and the Republicans voted for but no one voted to see Renee Good, a young mom with the smile of an angel gunned down in the street.

If it can happen to her, it can happen to them. Is this the begging of the end?

This has to be the George Floyd moment, right? It's so terrible it's got to change things.

Yes stop resisting the police and both would probably still be alive

THEY ARE NOT THE POLICE.

They are masked men with guns who have been poorly trained for a job that exceeds their jurisdiction.

ICE are federal law enforcement officers.

Hitting a federal law enforcement officer with an SUV is assault with a deadly weapon. A video shown on CNN a few minutes ago clearly shows that the victim hit the ICE shooter with her SUV while trying to flee.

DHS policy is clear. Don't approach a vehicle from the front. Don't shoot at moving vehicles.

And, as one expert already pointed out, only one shot was from the front and two were from the side. He continued to track her and wasn't reasonably in fear

Legal if shooter feared for his safety OR the safety of others. The protester was driving recklessly in an attempt to escape law enforcement.Before being shot, she hit the ICE shooter with her SUV. See the video showing her hitting the ICE agent with her SUV before he shot on CNN.

She wasn’t driving recklessly. The only recklessness here was shooting her when at most all he had to do was step aside.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why was she trying to run over the police officers?

Did you watch the video?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They need to stop impeding, just protest from the side is ok

She had just dropped her kid off at school and was on the way to get milk at the store.

Link?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:CNN just showed two videos of the incident. The second video clearly shows the victim hitting the ICE shooter with her SUV.

All of the videos have been posted on this thread. Are you talking about the one where she is going 2 miles per hour and the agent steps out of the way? Because that is that it showed.

No. She was going faster than the speed you stated and the video clearly shows that she hit the ICE agent with her SUV.

CNN shows two different videos of the incident. The second video shows the ICE agent being hit by the reckless driver trying to escape from law enforcement.

Video show not such thing. You are lying. Go back to Russia.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:CNN just showed two videos of the incident. The second video clearly shows the victim hitting the ICE shooter with her SUV.

All of the videos have been posted on this thread. Are you talking about the one where she is going 2 miles per hour and the agent steps out of the way? Because that is that it showed.

No. She was going faster than the speed you stated and the video clearly shows that she hit the ICE agent with her SUV.

CNN shows two different videos of the incident. The second video shows the ICE agent being hit by the reckless driver trying to escape from law enforcement.

Video show not such thing. You are lying. Go back to Russia.

Yes it does. CNN played it twice on AC360 (Anderson Cooper). The second was in slow motion so that viewers could see clearly that the ICE shooter was hit by the SUV.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why were they running at her vehicle?

I don’t understand why they didn’t just drive around her as the others did.

Because they were looking for a confrontation.

And what she was looking for? Lost in the middle of her trip to her hometown in Colorado?

She’d just moved to minneapolis from a small town in Colarado, she was a young 37 year old mom in search of a better life for her child. She was young, fresh off the farm, golden curls and a beautiful smile. She describes herself on instagram as loving poetry, being a mom and playing the guitar badly.

This was a simple midwestern mom
out for a milk run. She was clearly motioning cars to go around her so she could move off of an ice patch. She motioned for the ICE truck to go around too.

Before the Hot headed ICE incel starting cursing and screaming and grabbing her locked car door. Of course the door was locked she was on hear all modern cars locked upon belng put in gear. Plus all women lock their doors.

The situation was chaotic and she didn’t need to die. Mark my words this young white mom is going to be ICE’s George Floyd achilles heal.

Maga can forgive Trump for all manner of atrocities, but will they forgive him shooting a Midwestern, pretty young mom, out for a milk run.

Renee Good remember her name. This was predictable of course it’s happened before, when it happens to people
of color who look foreign, it’s forgivable, that’s what MAGA and the Republicans voted for but no one voted to see Renee Good, a young mom with the smile of an angel gunned down in the street.

If it can happen to her, it can happen to them. Is this the begging of the end?

This has to be the George Floyd moment, right? It's so terrible it's got to change things.

Yes stop resisting the police and both would probably still be alive

THEY ARE NOT THE POLICE.

They are masked men with guns who have been poorly trained for a job that exceeds their jurisdiction.

ICE are federal law enforcement officers.

Hitting a federal law enforcement officer with an SUV is assault with a deadly weapon. A video shown on CNN a few minutes ago clearly shows that the victim hit the ICE shooter with her SUV while trying to flee.

DHS policy is clear. Don't approach a vehicle from the front. Don't shoot at moving vehicles.

And, as one expert already pointed out, only one shot was from the front and two were from the side. He continued to track her and wasn't reasonably in fear

Legal if shooter feared for his safety OR the safety of others. The protester was driving recklessly in an attempt to escape law enforcement.Before being shot, she hit the ICE shooter with her SUV. See the video showing her hitting the ICE agent with her SUV before he shot on CNN.

We've seen that video and nothing you wrote is anything more than your tough-boy cosplaying superhero having a wet dream.

[Anonymous]

Weird that pp keeps talking about a special CNN video that exonerates the officer but can’t be bothered to share it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why were they running at her vehicle?

I don’t understand why they didn’t just drive around her as the others did.

Because they were looking for a confrontation.

And what she was looking for? Lost in the middle of her trip to her hometown in Colorado?

She’d just moved to minneapolis from a small town in Colarado, she was a young 37 year old mom in search of a better life for her child. She was young, fresh off the farm, golden curls and a beautiful smile. She describes herself on instagram as loving poetry, being a mom and playing the guitar badly.

This was a simple midwestern mom
out for a milk run. She was clearly motioning cars to go around her so she could move off of an ice patch. She motioned for the ICE truck to go around too.

Before the Hot headed ICE incel starting cursing and screaming and grabbing her locked car door. Of course the door was locked she was on hear all modern cars locked upon belng put in gear. Plus all women lock their doors.

The situation was chaotic and she didn’t need to die. Mark my words this young white mom is going to be ICE’s George Floyd achilles heal.

Maga can forgive Trump for all manner of atrocities, but will they forgive him shooting a Midwestern, pretty young mom, out for a milk run.

Renee Good remember her name. This was predictable of course it’s happened before, when it happens to people
of color who look foreign, it’s forgivable, that’s what MAGA and the Republicans voted for but no one voted to see Renee Good, a young mom with the smile of an angel gunned down in the street.

If it can happen to her, it can happen to them. Is this the begging of the end?

This has to be the George Floyd moment, right? It's so terrible it's got to change things.

Yes stop resisting the police and both would probably still be alive

THEY ARE NOT THE POLICE.

They are masked men with guns who have been poorly trained for a job that exceeds their jurisdiction.

ICE are federal law enforcement officers.

Hitting a federal law enforcement officer with an SUV is assault with a deadly weapon. A video shown on CNN a few minutes ago clearly shows that the victim hit the ICE shooter with her SUV while trying to flee.

DHS policy is clear. Don't approach a vehicle from the front. Don't shoot at moving vehicles.

And, as one expert already pointed out, only one shot was from the front and two were from the side. He continued to track her and wasn't reasonably in fear

Legal if shooter feared for his safety OR the safety of others. The protester was driving recklessly in an attempt to escape law enforcement.Before being shot, she hit the ICE shooter with her SUV. See the video showing her hitting the ICE agent with her SUV before he shot on CNN.

No it’s not legal. You don’t just get to make this sh!t up.

[Anonymous]

Eyewitness and homeowner whose house is in front of the scene of the execution.

"[The agent] was in the clear" of the moving car.