Trapped/Re-aging Families, How are you having the conversation?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Also, their take on MLSN:

● This change will impact all SOCAL League, GA and DPL teams next season.
● MLS Next Homegrown will continue with the January 1 - December 31 cut-off.
● MLS Academy and EAL are yet to confirm which cut off they will use. We will plan
accordingly for these leagues as soon as a decision is released.

That was published before mlsnext “reconsidered”. Our club (mlsn1) has discussed pros/cons with the league within the last few weeks. City could end up being right but I’m surprised they haven’t taken that down for the time being.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Reading these comments and knowing these folks are the ones molding their kids mentality is scary

Can't get good teammates out of this batch

I agree! The people saying that is ok to play down and that college coaches wont care if your kid is playing on a grade down tean are ridiculious. Its scary thinking about the excuses they must be telling their kids.

Kids are being compared to other kids in their graduating year.
That's how college's recruit.

They're also being compared to transfer portal players. So its not just the players in their grade. There's also competition from players 1-3 maybe even 4 years older that are already playing in college.

That makes grade even less relevant than it already is

Talent, potential and college start date is all that matters

So you're theory is that because players are competing against other players 1-4 (maybe more) years older than they are for a college roster spot that somehow playing down againt younger players in high school will prepare them to play at a higher level.

You really think coaches wont notice that players are playing down a grade.

Colleges don't recruit soccer players from High School
What decade are you living in?

If you're a U16 playing U15, the only person you're fooling is yourself, because no College wants you.

You're calling a fact a theory.
If not talent, potential and graduating year, what are colleges looking at?

Agree 1000%

Unfortunately there's a very persistent troll that monitors this thread 24/7 saying that playing on a grade down team isn't a big deal and that college coaches wont notice.

Now that details about SY are starting to come out from clubs its becoming more and more clear that they will group by grade within the 8/1-7/31 context. (ie younger players will be forced to play with their grade)

Multiple people aren't trolling when they are countering a disinformation campaign where one loud poster is saying that they want August kids playing up an age group so their September born kid can be the oldest in their age group.

It is surprising that the person hasn't gotten another self centered parent of a September kid to join them but I guess even they realize that is a ridiculous fruitless effort to stump for a new rule on a random forum that doesn't make sense to anyone but the most self centered.

You are the disinformation campaign.

You just dont realize it because your kid is likely a little or on a lower B/C team.

You know your wrong, so you're going personal. So typical.

How is pointing out that you're naive because you haven't been in a recruiting situation yet "going personal"?

You dont understand how things work once recruiting and college coaches are involved. You're trying to apply what you've learned attending tournamants and league games but its not the same game.

Instead of being a know it all. Step back, listen, and learn.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Also, their take on MLSN:

● This change will impact all SOCAL League, GA and DPL teams next season.
● MLS Next Homegrown will continue with the January 1 - December 31 cut-off.
● MLS Academy and EAL are yet to confirm which cut off they will use. We will plan
accordingly for these leagues as soon as a decision is released.

That was published before mlsnext “reconsidered”. Our club (mlsn1) has discussed pros/cons with the league within the last few weeks. City could end up being right but I’m surprised they haven’t taken that down for the time being.

City SCs document was published 1 month ago. They know exactly what they're doing posting and leaving it posted.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Reading these comments and knowing these folks are the ones molding their kids mentality is scary

Can't get good teammates out of this batch

I agree! The people saying that is ok to play down and that college coaches wont care if your kid is playing on a grade down tean are ridiculious. Its scary thinking about the excuses they must be telling their kids.

Kids are being compared to other kids in their graduating year.
That's how college's recruit.

They're also being compared to transfer portal players. So its not just the players in their grade. There's also competition from players 1-3 maybe even 4 years older that are already playing in college.

That makes grade even less relevant than it already is

Talent, potential and college start date is all that matters

So you're theory is that because players are competing against other players 1-4 (maybe more) years older than they are for a college roster spot that somehow playing down againt younger players in high school will prepare them to play at a higher level.

You really think coaches wont notice that players are playing down a grade.

Colleges don't recruit soccer players from High School
What decade are you living in?

If you're a U16 playing U15, the only person you're fooling is yourself, because no College wants you.

You're calling a fact a theory.
If not talent, potential and graduating year, what are colleges looking at?

Agree 1000%

Unfortunately there's a very persistent troll that monitors this thread 24/7 saying that playing on a grade down team isn't a big deal and that college coaches wont notice.

Now that details about SY are starting to come out from clubs its becoming more and more clear that they will group by grade within the 8/1-7/31 context. (ie younger players will be forced to play with their grade)

Multiple people aren't trolling when they are countering a disinformation campaign where one loud poster is saying that they want August kids playing up an age group so their September born kid can be the oldest in their age group.

It is surprising that the person hasn't gotten another self centered parent of a September kid to join them but I guess even they realize that is a ridiculous fruitless effort to stump for a new rule on a random forum that doesn't make sense to anyone but the most self centered.

You are the disinformation campaign.

You just dont realize it because your kid is likely a little or on a lower B/C team.

You know your wrong, so you're going personal. So typical.

How is pointing out that you're naive because you haven't been in a recruiting situation yet "going personal"?

You dont understand how things work once recruiting and college coaches are involved. You're trying to apply what you've learned attending tournamants and league games but its not the same game.

Instead of being a know it all. Step back, listen, and learn.

No, I'm sharing what I know after talking to college coaches, club coaches and parents and it's far more complicated than how you present things here.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Reading these comments and knowing these folks are the ones molding their kids mentality is scary

Can't get good teammates out of this batch

I agree! The people saying that is ok to play down and that college coaches wont care if your kid is playing on a grade down tean are ridiculious. Its scary thinking about the excuses they must be telling their kids.

Kids are being compared to other kids in their graduating year.
That's how college's recruit.

They're also being compared to transfer portal players. So its not just the players in their grade. There's also competition from players 1-3 maybe even 4 years older that are already playing in college.

That makes grade even less relevant than it already is

Talent, potential and college start date is all that matters

So you're theory is that because players are competing against other players 1-4 (maybe more) years older than they are for a college roster spot that somehow playing down againt younger players in high school will prepare them to play at a higher level.

You really think coaches wont notice that players are playing down a grade.

Colleges don't recruit soccer players from High School
What decade are you living in?

If you're a U16 playing U15, the only person you're fooling is yourself, because no College wants you.

You're calling a fact a theory.
If not talent, potential and graduating year, what are colleges looking at?

Agree 1000%

Unfortunately there's a very persistent troll that monitors this thread 24/7 saying that playing on a grade down team isn't a big deal and that college coaches wont notice.

Now that details about SY are starting to come out from clubs its becoming more and more clear that they will group by grade within the 8/1-7/31 context. (ie younger players will be forced to play with their grade)

Multiple people aren't trolling when they are countering a disinformation campaign where one loud poster is saying that they want August kids playing up an age group so their September born kid can be the oldest in their age group.

It is surprising that the person hasn't gotten another self centered parent of a September kid to join them but I guess even they realize that is a ridiculous fruitless effort to stump for a new rule on a random forum that doesn't make sense to anyone but the most self centered.

You are the disinformation campaign.

You just dont realize it because your kid is likely a little or on a lower B/C team.

You know your wrong, so you're going personal. So typical.

How is pointing out that you're naive because you haven't been in a recruiting situation yet "going personal"?

You dont understand how things work once recruiting and college coaches are involved. You're trying to apply what you've learned attending tournamants and league games but its not the same game.

Instead of being a know it all. Step back, listen, and learn.

No, I'm sharing what I know after talking to college coaches, club coaches and parents and it's far more complicated than how you present things here.

Its only more complicated because you think players should be able to play on a grade down team. If you take away the loser thought processes recruiting becomes much easier. If your kid is playing up recruiting becomes much easier. If your kid is playing on a highly ranked team recruiting becomes much easier.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Also, their take on MLSN:

● This change will impact all SOCAL League, GA and DPL teams next season.
● MLS Next Homegrown will continue with the January 1 - December 31 cut-off.
● MLS Academy and EAL are yet to confirm which cut off they will use. We will plan
accordingly for these leagues as soon as a decision is released.

That was published before mlsnext “reconsidered”. Our club (mlsn1) has discussed pros/cons with the league within the last few weeks. City could end up being right but I’m surprised they haven’t taken that down for the time being.

City SCs document was published 1 month ago. They know exactly what they're doing posting and leaving it posted.

Yes. Mid October, it was posted on here at that time. Things have changed since then. Again, maybe they will end up being right but that’s not what has been communicated to clubs at the present time.

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Anonymous wrote:Reading these comments and knowing these folks are the ones molding their kids mentality is scary

Can't get good teammates out of this batch

I agree! The people saying that is ok to play down and that college coaches wont care if your kid is playing on a grade down tean are ridiculious. Its scary thinking about the excuses they must be telling their kids.

Kids are being compared to other kids in their graduating year.
That's how college's recruit.

They're also being compared to transfer portal players. So its not just the players in their grade. There's also competition from players 1-3 maybe even 4 years older that are already playing in college.

That makes grade even less relevant than it already is

Talent, potential and college start date is all that matters

So you're theory is that because players are competing against other players 1-4 (maybe more) years older than they are for a college roster spot that somehow playing down againt younger players in high school will prepare them to play at a higher level.

You really think coaches wont notice that players are playing down a grade.

Colleges don't recruit soccer players from High School
What decade are you living in?

If you're a U16 playing U15, the only person you're fooling is yourself, because no College wants you.

You're calling a fact a theory.
If not talent, potential and graduating year, what are colleges looking at?

Agree 1000%

Unfortunately there's a very persistent troll that monitors this thread 24/7 saying that playing on a grade down team isn't a big deal and that college coaches wont notice.

Now that details about SY are starting to come out from clubs its becoming more and more clear that they will group by grade within the 8/1-7/31 context. (ie younger players will be forced to play with their grade)

Multiple people aren't trolling when they are countering a disinformation campaign where one loud poster is saying that they want August kids playing up an age group so their September born kid can be the oldest in their age group.

It is surprising that the person hasn't gotten another self centered parent of a September kid to join them but I guess even they realize that is a ridiculous fruitless effort to stump for a new rule on a random forum that doesn't make sense to anyone but the most self centered.

You are the disinformation campaign.

You just dont realize it because your kid is likely a little or on a lower B/C team.

You know your wrong, so you're going personal. So typical.

How is pointing out that you're naive because you haven't been in a recruiting situation yet "going personal"?

You dont understand how things work once recruiting and college coaches are involved. You're trying to apply what you've learned attending tournamants and league games but its not the same game.

Instead of being a know it all. Step back, listen, and learn.

No, I'm sharing what I know after talking to college coaches, club coaches and parents and it's far more complicated than how you present things here.

Its only more complicated because you think players should be able to play on a grade down team. If you take away the loser thought processes recruiting becomes much easier. If your kid is playing up recruiting becomes much easier. If your kid is playing on a highly ranked team recruiting becomes much easier.

Reaching the best team in your age group on a top league isn't a loser option. That's your blind spot.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Reading these comments and knowing these folks are the ones molding their kids mentality is scary

Can't get good teammates out of this batch

I agree! The people saying that is ok to play down and that college coaches wont care if your kid is playing on a grade down tean are ridiculious. Its scary thinking about the excuses they must be telling their kids.

Kids are being compared to other kids in their graduating year.
That's how college's recruit.

They're also being compared to transfer portal players. So its not just the players in their grade. There's also competition from players 1-3 maybe even 4 years older that are already playing in college.

That makes grade even less relevant than it already is

Talent, potential and college start date is all that matters

So you're theory is that because players are competing against other players 1-4 (maybe more) years older than they are for a college roster spot that somehow playing down againt younger players in high school will prepare them to play at a higher level.

You really think coaches wont notice that players are playing down a grade.

Colleges don't recruit soccer players from High School
What decade are you living in?

If you're a U16 playing U15, the only person you're fooling is yourself, because no College wants you.

You're calling a fact a theory.
If not talent, potential and graduating year, what are colleges looking at?

Agree 1000%

Unfortunately there's a very persistent troll that monitors this thread 24/7 saying that playing on a grade down team isn't a big deal and that college coaches wont notice.

Now that details about SY are starting to come out from clubs its becoming more and more clear that they will group by grade within the 8/1-7/31 context. (ie younger players will be forced to play with their grade)

Multiple people aren't trolling when they are countering a disinformation campaign where one loud poster is saying that they want August kids playing up an age group so their September born kid can be the oldest in their age group.

It is surprising that the person hasn't gotten another self centered parent of a September kid to join them but I guess even they realize that is a ridiculous fruitless effort to stump for a new rule on a random forum that doesn't make sense to anyone but the most self centered.

You are the disinformation campaign.

You just dont realize it because your kid is likely a little or on a lower B/C team.

You know your wrong, so you're going personal. So typical.

How is pointing out that you're naive because you haven't been in a recruiting situation yet "going personal"?

You dont understand how things work once recruiting and college coaches are involved. You're trying to apply what you've learned attending tournamants and league games but its not the same game.

Instead of being a know it all. Step back, listen, and learn.

No, I'm sharing what I know after talking to college coaches, club coaches and parents and it's far more complicated than how you present things here.

Its only more complicated because you think players should be able to play on a grade down team. If you take away the loser thought processes recruiting becomes much easier. If your kid is playing up recruiting becomes much easier. If your kid is playing on a highly ranked team recruiting becomes much easier.

Reaching the best team in your age group on a top league isn't a loser option. That's your blind spot.

What are you talking about? Planet crazytown.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Reading these comments and knowing these folks are the ones molding their kids mentality is scary

Can't get good teammates out of this batch

I agree! The people saying that is ok to play down and that college coaches wont care if your kid is playing on a grade down tean are ridiculious. Its scary thinking about the excuses they must be telling their kids.

Kids are being compared to other kids in their graduating year.
That's how college's recruit.

They're also being compared to transfer portal players. So its not just the players in their grade. There's also competition from players 1-3 maybe even 4 years older that are already playing in college.

That makes grade even less relevant than it already is

Talent, potential and college start date is all that matters

So you're theory is that because players are competing against other players 1-4 (maybe more) years older than they are for a college roster spot that somehow playing down againt younger players in high school will prepare them to play at a higher level.

You really think coaches wont notice that players are playing down a grade.

Colleges don't recruit soccer players from High School
What decade are you living in?

If you're a U16 playing U15, the only person you're fooling is yourself, because no College wants you.

You're calling a fact a theory.
If not talent, potential and graduating year, what are colleges looking at?

Agree 1000%

Unfortunately there's a very persistent troll that monitors this thread 24/7 saying that playing on a grade down team isn't a big deal and that college coaches wont notice.

Now that details about SY are starting to come out from clubs its becoming more and more clear that they will group by grade within the 8/1-7/31 context. (ie younger players will be forced to play with their grade)

Multiple people aren't trolling when they are countering a disinformation campaign where one loud poster is saying that they want August kids playing up an age group so their September born kid can be the oldest in their age group.

It is surprising that the person hasn't gotten another self centered parent of a September kid to join them but I guess even they realize that is a ridiculous fruitless effort to stump for a new rule on a random forum that doesn't make sense to anyone but the most self centered.

You are the disinformation campaign.

You just dont realize it because your kid is likely a little or on a lower B/C team.

You know your wrong, so you're going personal. So typical.

How is pointing out that you're naive because you haven't been in a recruiting situation yet "going personal"?

You dont understand how things work once recruiting and college coaches are involved. You're trying to apply what you've learned attending tournamants and league games but its not the same game.

Instead of being a know it all. Step back, listen, and learn.

No, I'm sharing what I know after talking to college coaches, club coaches and parents and it's far more complicated than how you present things here.

Its only more complicated because you think players should be able to play on a grade down team. If you take away the loser thought processes recruiting becomes much easier. If your kid is playing up recruiting becomes much easier. If your kid is playing on a highly ranked team recruiting becomes much easier.

Reaching the best team in your age group on a top league isn't a loser option. That's your blind spot.

What are you talking about? Planet crazytown.

Keep distracting. The club documentation so far agrees with me. These will be case-by-case decisions.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Reading these comments and knowing these folks are the ones molding their kids mentality is scary

Can't get good teammates out of this batch

I agree! The people saying that is ok to play down and that college coaches wont care if your kid is playing on a grade down tean are ridiculious. Its scary thinking about the excuses they must be telling their kids.

Kids are being compared to other kids in their graduating year.
That's how college's recruit.

They're also being compared to transfer portal players. So its not just the players in their grade. There's also competition from players 1-3 maybe even 4 years older that are already playing in college.

That makes grade even less relevant than it already is

Talent, potential and college start date is all that matters

So you're theory is that because players are competing against other players 1-4 (maybe more) years older than they are for a college roster spot that somehow playing down againt younger players in high school will prepare them to play at a higher level.

You really think coaches wont notice that players are playing down a grade.

Colleges don't recruit soccer players from High School
What decade are you living in?

If you're a U16 playing U15, the only person you're fooling is yourself, because no College wants you.

You're calling a fact a theory.
If not talent, potential and graduating year, what are colleges looking at?

Agree 1000%

Unfortunately there's a very persistent troll that monitors this thread 24/7 saying that playing on a grade down team isn't a big deal and that college coaches wont notice.

Now that details about SY are starting to come out from clubs its becoming more and more clear that they will group by grade within the 8/1-7/31 context. (ie younger players will be forced to play with their grade)

Multiple people aren't trolling when they are countering a disinformation campaign where one loud poster is saying that they want August kids playing up an age group so their September born kid can be the oldest in their age group.

It is surprising that the person hasn't gotten another self centered parent of a September kid to join them but I guess even they realize that is a ridiculous fruitless effort to stump for a new rule on a random forum that doesn't make sense to anyone but the most self centered.

You are the disinformation campaign.

You just dont realize it because your kid is likely a little or on a lower B/C team.

You know your wrong, so you're going personal. So typical.

How is pointing out that you're naive because you haven't been in a recruiting situation yet "going personal"?

You dont understand how things work once recruiting and college coaches are involved. You're trying to apply what you've learned attending tournamants and league games but its not the same game.

Instead of being a know it all. Step back, listen, and learn.

No, I'm sharing what I know after talking to college coaches, club coaches and parents and it's far more complicated than how you present things here.

Its only more complicated because you think players should be able to play on a grade down team. If you take away the loser thought processes recruiting becomes much easier. If your kid is playing up recruiting becomes much easier. If your kid is playing on a highly ranked team recruiting becomes much easier.

Reaching the best team in your age group on a top league isn't a loser option. That's your blind spot.

What are you talking about? Planet crazytown.

Keep distracting. The club documentation so far agrees with me. These will be case-by-case decisions.

Ok littles

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Anonymous wrote:Reading these comments and knowing these folks are the ones molding their kids mentality is scary

Can't get good teammates out of this batch

I agree! The people saying that is ok to play down and that college coaches wont care if your kid is playing on a grade down tean are ridiculious. Its scary thinking about the excuses they must be telling their kids.

Kids are being compared to other kids in their graduating year.
That's how college's recruit.

They're also being compared to transfer portal players. So its not just the players in their grade. There's also competition from players 1-3 maybe even 4 years older that are already playing in college.

That makes grade even less relevant than it already is

Talent, potential and college start date is all that matters

So you're theory is that because players are competing against other players 1-4 (maybe more) years older than they are for a college roster spot that somehow playing down againt younger players in high school will prepare them to play at a higher level.

You really think coaches wont notice that players are playing down a grade.

Colleges don't recruit soccer players from High School
What decade are you living in?

If you're a U16 playing U15, the only person you're fooling is yourself, because no College wants you.

You're calling a fact a theory.
If not talent, potential and graduating year, what are colleges looking at?

Agree 1000%

Unfortunately there's a very persistent troll that monitors this thread 24/7 saying that playing on a grade down team isn't a big deal and that college coaches wont notice.

Now that details about SY are starting to come out from clubs its becoming more and more clear that they will group by grade within the 8/1-7/31 context. (ie younger players will be forced to play with their grade)

Multiple people aren't trolling when they are countering a disinformation campaign where one loud poster is saying that they want August kids playing up an age group so their September born kid can be the oldest in their age group.

It is surprising that the person hasn't gotten another self centered parent of a September kid to join them but I guess even they realize that is a ridiculous fruitless effort to stump for a new rule on a random forum that doesn't make sense to anyone but the most self centered.

You are the disinformation campaign.

You just dont realize it because your kid is likely a little or on a lower B/C team.

You know your wrong, so you're going personal. So typical.

How is pointing out that you're naive because you haven't been in a recruiting situation yet "going personal"?

You dont understand how things work once recruiting and college coaches are involved. You're trying to apply what you've learned attending tournamants and league games but its not the same game.

Instead of being a know it all. Step back, listen, and learn.

No, I'm sharing what I know after talking to college coaches, club coaches and parents and it's far more complicated than how you present things here.

Its only more complicated because you think players should be able to play on a grade down team. If you take away the loser thought processes recruiting becomes much easier. If your kid is playing up recruiting becomes much easier. If your kid is playing on a highly ranked team recruiting becomes much easier.

Reaching the best team in your age group on a top league isn't a loser option. That's your blind spot.

What are you talking about? Planet crazytown.

Keep distracting. The club documentation so far agrees with me. These will be case-by-case decisions.

Ok littles

If they don't play on grade for just for littles, that would make sense because of RAE factors.

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Anonymous wrote:Reading these comments and knowing these folks are the ones molding their kids mentality is scary

Can't get good teammates out of this batch

I agree! The people saying that is ok to play down and that college coaches wont care if your kid is playing on a grade down tean are ridiculious. Its scary thinking about the excuses they must be telling their kids.

Kids are being compared to other kids in their graduating year.
That's how college's recruit.

They're also being compared to transfer portal players. So its not just the players in their grade. There's also competition from players 1-3 maybe even 4 years older that are already playing in college.

That makes grade even less relevant than it already is

Talent, potential and college start date is all that matters

So you're theory is that because players are competing against other players 1-4 (maybe more) years older than they are for a college roster spot that somehow playing down againt younger players in high school will prepare them to play at a higher level.

You really think coaches wont notice that players are playing down a grade.

Colleges don't recruit soccer players from High School
What decade are you living in?

If you're a U16 playing U15, the only person you're fooling is yourself, because no College wants you.

You're calling a fact a theory.
If not talent, potential and graduating year, what are colleges looking at?

Agree 1000%

Unfortunately there's a very persistent troll that monitors this thread 24/7 saying that playing on a grade down team isn't a big deal and that college coaches wont notice.

Now that details about SY are starting to come out from clubs its becoming more and more clear that they will group by grade within the 8/1-7/31 context. (ie younger players will be forced to play with their grade)

Multiple people aren't trolling when they are countering a disinformation campaign where one loud poster is saying that they want August kids playing up an age group so their September born kid can be the oldest in their age group.

It is surprising that the person hasn't gotten another self centered parent of a September kid to join them but I guess even they realize that is a ridiculous fruitless effort to stump for a new rule on a random forum that doesn't make sense to anyone but the most self centered.

You are the disinformation campaign.

You just dont realize it because your kid is likely a little or on a lower B/C team.

You know your wrong, so you're going personal. So typical.

How is pointing out that you're naive because you haven't been in a recruiting situation yet "going personal"?

You dont understand how things work once recruiting and college coaches are involved. You're trying to apply what you've learned attending tournamants and league games but its not the same game.

Instead of being a know it all. Step back, listen, and learn.

No, I'm sharing what I know after talking to college coaches, club coaches and parents and it's far more complicated than how you present things here.

Its only more complicated because you think players should be able to play on a grade down team. If you take away the loser thought processes recruiting becomes much easier. If your kid is playing up recruiting becomes much easier. If your kid is playing on a highly ranked team recruiting becomes much easier.

Reaching the best team in your age group on a top league isn't a loser option. That's your blind spot.

What are you talking about? Planet crazytown.

Keep distracting. The club documentation so far agrees with me. These will be case-by-case decisions.

Ok littles

If they don't play on grade for just for littles, that would make sense because of RAE factors.

Do you rip the bandaid off quickly or pull it off slowly? In the end the result is the same.

Most conpetitive clubs won't want to deal with accommodating edge cases. Which means they'll just group by grade from the beginning because its easiest.

I could see youngers tournament teams rostering grade up but eligible to play down Aug/Sept birthdays for wins. But this ends after 11v11 also at 11v11 is when a grade down player would need to start playing with their grade in school. This is because on the ECNL and other websites players graduating year is listed.

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Anonymous wrote:Reading these comments and knowing these folks are the ones molding their kids mentality is scary

Can't get good teammates out of this batch

I agree! The people saying that is ok to play down and that college coaches wont care if your kid is playing on a grade down tean are ridiculious. Its scary thinking about the excuses they must be telling their kids.

Kids are being compared to other kids in their graduating year.
That's how college's recruit.

They're also being compared to transfer portal players. So its not just the players in their grade. There's also competition from players 1-3 maybe even 4 years older that are already playing in college.

That makes grade even less relevant than it already is

Talent, potential and college start date is all that matters

So you're theory is that because players are competing against other players 1-4 (maybe more) years older than they are for a college roster spot that somehow playing down againt younger players in high school will prepare them to play at a higher level.

You really think coaches wont notice that players are playing down a grade.

Colleges don't recruit soccer players from High School
What decade are you living in?

If you're a U16 playing U15, the only person you're fooling is yourself, because no College wants you.

You're calling a fact a theory.
If not talent, potential and graduating year, what are colleges looking at?

Agree 1000%

Unfortunately there's a very persistent troll that monitors this thread 24/7 saying that playing on a grade down team isn't a big deal and that college coaches wont notice.

Now that details about SY are starting to come out from clubs its becoming more and more clear that they will group by grade within the 8/1-7/31 context. (ie younger players will be forced to play with their grade)

Multiple people aren't trolling when they are countering a disinformation campaign where one loud poster is saying that they want August kids playing up an age group so their September born kid can be the oldest in their age group.

It is surprising that the person hasn't gotten another self centered parent of a September kid to join them but I guess even they realize that is a ridiculous fruitless effort to stump for a new rule on a random forum that doesn't make sense to anyone but the most self centered.

You are the disinformation campaign.

You just dont realize it because your kid is likely a little or on a lower B/C team.

You know your wrong, so you're going personal. So typical.

How is pointing out that you're naive because you haven't been in a recruiting situation yet "going personal"?

You dont understand how things work once recruiting and college coaches are involved. You're trying to apply what you've learned attending tournamants and league games but its not the same game.

Instead of being a know it all. Step back, listen, and learn.

No, I'm sharing what I know after talking to college coaches, club coaches and parents and it's far more complicated than how you present things here.

Its only more complicated because you think players should be able to play on a grade down team. If you take away the loser thought processes recruiting becomes much easier. If your kid is playing up recruiting becomes much easier. If your kid is playing on a highly ranked team recruiting becomes much easier.

Reaching the best team in your age group on a top league isn't a loser option. That's your blind spot.

What are you talking about? Planet crazytown.

Keep distracting. The club documentation so far agrees with me. These will be case-by-case decisions.

Ok littles

If they don't play on grade for just for littles, that would make sense because of RAE factors.

Do you rip the bandaid off quickly or pull it off slowly? In the end the result is the same.

Most conpetitive clubs won't want to deal with accommodating edge cases. Which means they'll just group by grade from the beginning because its easiest.

I could see youngers tournament teams rostering grade up but eligible to play down Aug/Sept birthdays for wins. But this ends after 11v11 also at 11v11 is when a grade down player would need to start playing with their grade in school. This is because on the ECNL and other websites players graduating year is listed.

Yes, ECNL do list their grad years and BY teams have multiple years. Jury out on next year with SY. In the meantime, 2 big clubs say it's case-by-case. If it was automatic, they'd say so, so to this point, you're just wrong.

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Anonymous wrote:Reading these comments and knowing these folks are the ones molding their kids mentality is scary

Can't get good teammates out of this batch

I agree! The people saying that is ok to play down and that college coaches wont care if your kid is playing on a grade down tean are ridiculious. Its scary thinking about the excuses they must be telling their kids.

Kids are being compared to other kids in their graduating year.
That's how college's recruit.

They're also being compared to transfer portal players. So its not just the players in their grade. There's also competition from players 1-3 maybe even 4 years older that are already playing in college.

That makes grade even less relevant than it already is

Talent, potential and college start date is all that matters

So you're theory is that because players are competing against other players 1-4 (maybe more) years older than they are for a college roster spot that somehow playing down againt younger players in high school will prepare them to play at a higher level.

You really think coaches wont notice that players are playing down a grade.

Colleges don't recruit soccer players from High School
What decade are you living in?

If you're a U16 playing U15, the only person you're fooling is yourself, because no College wants you.

You're calling a fact a theory.
If not talent, potential and graduating year, what are colleges looking at?

Agree 1000%

Unfortunately there's a very persistent troll that monitors this thread 24/7 saying that playing on a grade down team isn't a big deal and that college coaches wont notice.

Now that details about SY are starting to come out from clubs its becoming more and more clear that they will group by grade within the 8/1-7/31 context. (ie younger players will be forced to play with their grade)

Multiple people aren't trolling when they are countering a disinformation campaign where one loud poster is saying that they want August kids playing up an age group so their September born kid can be the oldest in their age group.

It is surprising that the person hasn't gotten another self centered parent of a September kid to join them but I guess even they realize that is a ridiculous fruitless effort to stump for a new rule on a random forum that doesn't make sense to anyone but the most self centered.

You are the disinformation campaign.

You just dont realize it because your kid is likely a little or on a lower B/C team.

You know your wrong, so you're going personal. So typical.

How is pointing out that you're naive because you haven't been in a recruiting situation yet "going personal"?

You dont understand how things work once recruiting and college coaches are involved. You're trying to apply what you've learned attending tournamants and league games but its not the same game.

Instead of being a know it all. Step back, listen, and learn.

No, I'm sharing what I know after talking to college coaches, club coaches and parents and it's far more complicated than how you present things here.

Its only more complicated because you think players should be able to play on a grade down team. If you take away the loser thought processes recruiting becomes much easier. If your kid is playing up recruiting becomes much easier. If your kid is playing on a highly ranked team recruiting becomes much easier.

Reaching the best team in your age group on a top league isn't a loser option. That's your blind spot.

What are you talking about? Planet crazytown.

Keep distracting. The club documentation so far agrees with me. These will be case-by-case decisions.

Ok littles

If they don't play on grade for just for littles, that would make sense because of RAE factors.

Do you rip the bandaid off quickly or pull it off slowly? In the end the result is the same.

Most conpetitive clubs won't want to deal with accommodating edge cases. Which means they'll just group by grade from the beginning because its easiest.

I could see youngers tournament teams rostering grade up but eligible to play down Aug/Sept birthdays for wins. But this ends after 11v11 also at 11v11 is when a grade down player would need to start playing with their grade in school. This is because on the ECNL and other websites players graduating year is listed.

Yes, ECNL do list their grad years and BY teams have multiple years. Jury out on next year with SY. In the meantime, 2 big clubs say it's case-by-case. If it was automatic, they'd say so, so to this point, you're just wrong.

Just to be clear...

Because of BY you do see 2 graduating years on the ECNL website. The 2 that are listed are players playing their grade and players playing on a grade up team.

With SY you might also see 2 graduating years on the ECNL website. The two that will be listed are players playing their grade and players playing on a grade DOWN team.

It's humorous that you think ECNL will stop posting graduating year. If they stop posting it would be obvious that they're trying to hide players playing down from college coaches. If they leave it up college coaches will use it to avoid players playing down a grade. (trojan horses)

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Anonymous wrote:Reading these comments and knowing these folks are the ones molding their kids mentality is scary

Can't get good teammates out of this batch

I agree! The people saying that is ok to play down and that college coaches wont care if your kid is playing on a grade down tean are ridiculious. Its scary thinking about the excuses they must be telling their kids.

Kids are being compared to other kids in their graduating year.
That's how college's recruit.

They're also being compared to transfer portal players. So its not just the players in their grade. There's also competition from players 1-3 maybe even 4 years older that are already playing in college.

That makes grade even less relevant than it already is

Talent, potential and college start date is all that matters

So you're theory is that because players are competing against other players 1-4 (maybe more) years older than they are for a college roster spot that somehow playing down againt younger players in high school will prepare them to play at a higher level.

You really think coaches wont notice that players are playing down a grade.

Colleges don't recruit soccer players from High School
What decade are you living in?

If you're a U16 playing U15, the only person you're fooling is yourself, because no College wants you.

You're calling a fact a theory.
If not talent, potential and graduating year, what are colleges looking at?

Agree 1000%

Unfortunately there's a very persistent troll that monitors this thread 24/7 saying that playing on a grade down team isn't a big deal and that college coaches wont notice.

Now that details about SY are starting to come out from clubs its becoming more and more clear that they will group by grade within the 8/1-7/31 context. (ie younger players will be forced to play with their grade)

Multiple people aren't trolling when they are countering a disinformation campaign where one loud poster is saying that they want August kids playing up an age group so their September born kid can be the oldest in their age group.

It is surprising that the person hasn't gotten another self centered parent of a September kid to join them but I guess even they realize that is a ridiculous fruitless effort to stump for a new rule on a random forum that doesn't make sense to anyone but the most self centered.

You are the disinformation campaign.

You just dont realize it because your kid is likely a little or on a lower B/C team.

You know your wrong, so you're going personal. So typical.

How is pointing out that you're naive because you haven't been in a recruiting situation yet "going personal"?

You dont understand how things work once recruiting and college coaches are involved. You're trying to apply what you've learned attending tournamants and league games but its not the same game.

Instead of being a know it all. Step back, listen, and learn.

No, I'm sharing what I know after talking to college coaches, club coaches and parents and it's far more complicated than how you present things here.

Its only more complicated because you think players should be able to play on a grade down team. If you take away the loser thought processes recruiting becomes much easier. If your kid is playing up recruiting becomes much easier. If your kid is playing on a highly ranked team recruiting becomes much easier.

Reaching the best team in your age group on a top league isn't a loser option. That's your blind spot.

What are you talking about? Planet crazytown.

Keep distracting. The club documentation so far agrees with me. These will be case-by-case decisions.

Ok littles

If they don't play on grade for just for littles, that would make sense because of RAE factors.

Do you rip the bandaid off quickly or pull it off slowly? In the end the result is the same.

Most conpetitive clubs won't want to deal with accommodating edge cases. Which means they'll just group by grade from the beginning because its easiest.

I could see youngers tournament teams rostering grade up but eligible to play down Aug/Sept birthdays for wins. But this ends after 11v11 also at 11v11 is when a grade down player would need to start playing with their grade in school. This is because on the ECNL and other websites players graduating year is listed.

Yes, ECNL do list their grad years and BY teams have multiple years. Jury out on next year with SY. In the meantime, 2 big clubs say it's case-by-case. If it was automatic, they'd say so, so to this point, you're just wrong.

Just to be clear...

Because of BY you do see 2 graduating years on the ECNL website. The 2 that are listed are players playing their grade and players playing on a grade up team.

With SY you might also see 2 graduating years on the ECNL website. The two that will be listed are players playing their grade and players playing on a grade DOWN team.

It's humorous that you think ECNL will stop posting graduating year. If they stop posting it would be obvious that they're trying to hide players playing down from college coaches. If they leave it up college coaches will use it to avoid players playing down a grade. (trojan horses)

Just because YOU have decided and repeat over and over again that players will be avoided does not make it a FACT.