Will school weapon detections cause class time delay?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I just received an email about detection system & Arrival information from the high school. Student can use only two door to enter the school building in the morning during 7:40-8:10. After 8:10, only one door remains as the building entrance. Students must go through the weapon screening systems and arrive class at 8:10. Some items must be removed when students before students getting in line such as medal three ring binders, laptops, collapsible umbrellas, metal lunch boxes, metal pencil cases, metal glass cases. Is it feasible for over 2000 students to pass the weapon screening system using only two doors in just 30 minutes? What if the congestion causes crows collapse?

Um, what if your kid gets hurt because another kid brought in a weapon?

Stop being so shortsighted, OP.

What fcps is doing isn't stopping anything, because they aren't willing to spend the resources to make the buildings truly secure while getting kids in the doors efficiently.

So they should either poop or get of the pot, because this half-measure is USELESS.

Why exactly do museums do it?
And most federal buildings?
YOU are useless.

Do they only screen people coming into the museums or federal building in the morning for an hour, and then otherwise leave it wide open to the community? Gosh, you are dumb.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I just received an email about detection system & Arrival information from the high school. Student can use only two door to enter the school building in the morning during 7:40-8:10. After 8:10, only one door remains as the building entrance. Students must go through the weapon screening systems and arrive class at 8:10. Some items must be removed when students before students getting in line such as medal three ring binders, laptops, collapsible umbrellas, metal lunch boxes, metal pencil cases, metal glass cases. Is it feasible for over 2000 students to pass the weapon screening system using only two doors in just 30 minutes? What if the congestion causes crows collapse?

Um, what if your kid gets hurt because another kid brought in a weapon?

Stop being so shortsighted, OP.

What fcps is doing isn't stopping anything, because they aren't willing to spend the resources to make the buildings truly secure while getting kids in the doors efficiently.

So they should either poop or get of the pot, because this half-measure is USELESS.

Why exactly do museums do it?
And most federal buildings?
YOU are useless.

Do they only screen people coming into the museums or federal building in the morning for an hour, and then otherwise leave it wide open to the community? Gosh, you are dumb.

Gatehouse shill doesn't understand logic.

[Anonymous]

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We used to carry 7 textbooks, a 3-inch binder, lunch, an instrument, a bag for afterschool sports, etc. We only used 1 STRAP of the backpack, because if you used both you must be a nerd. Of course we didnt' have water bottles like the kids have now.

My Lord. Were the 80s and 90s that bad to you? You never, ever carried 7 textbooks at once - let's be honest now.

I carried an instrument, backpack and all the other things, too. But I wasn't made to take a select group of things out of my one-strap backpack, stand in a line and hold it over my head. All while some teacher was yelling at me to hurry up and there were 500 people behind me.

If you took things out of your backpack, let's hear where you went to school because it must have been Theodore Roosevelt.

DP. I laughed at the one strap reference. Somehow, I don’t remember by backpack ever being super heavy or anything but I surely remember only using one strap or else I’d look like a nerd.

I’m sure my parents worried more about me bringing things than I did. I remember them telling me to dress warm in the snow and wear a heavy coat. I wasn’t cold and didn’t need one. Some things don’t change. Our kids are not worried. We are. It will be fine.

What BS. The kids ARE worried, about being late to class, about having to get up much eariler to get their spot in line, about getting shot at school while standing outside or minding their own business, about the general state of the world, etc. We adults have failed them utterly with all this nonsense.

You are responding to me. Do you talk about this nonstop at home? Are you making the metal detectors and lines out to be a huge deal? Maybe that’s why they are worried. Mine are not. They are not concerned if they are late to class, for no fault of their own, because it will be excused. One of mine was late on the first day because of the bus. There was no stress or anxiety. Maybe you project your worries onto your kid.

Exactly.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I can’t read 44 pages of comments, but you all are a bunch of whiners. These are not the first schools to implement screening. Yes, it will cause delays, especially at first. Everyone will learn the system and it will be fine. In this era of school violence, as a parent I’d be more annoyed that it took this long to put the security in place than over the inconvenience of adjusting to the new system.

LOL, this isn't security. This won't stop anyone from doing anything.

Liar. Granted, some people want classroom violence. Let’s be honest.

Such a low effort troll. Go home.

[Anonymous]

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We used to carry 7 textbooks, a 3-inch binder, lunch, an instrument, a bag for afterschool sports, etc. We only used 1 STRAP of the backpack, because if you used both you must be a nerd. Of course we didnt' have water bottles like the kids have now.

My Lord. Were the 80s and 90s that bad to you? You never, ever carried 7 textbooks at once - let's be honest now.

I carried an instrument, backpack and all the other things, too. But I wasn't made to take a select group of things out of my one-strap backpack, stand in a line and hold it over my head. All while some teacher was yelling at me to hurry up and there were 500 people behind me.

If you took things out of your backpack, let's hear where you went to school because it must have been Theodore Roosevelt.

DP. I laughed at the one strap reference. Somehow, I don’t remember by backpack ever being super heavy or anything but I surely remember only using one strap or else I’d look like a nerd.

I’m sure my parents worried more about me bringing things than I did. I remember them telling me to dress warm in the snow and wear a heavy coat. I wasn’t cold and didn’t need one. Some things don’t change. Our kids are not worried. We are. It will be fine.

What BS. The kids ARE worried, about being late to class, about having to get up much eariler to get their spot in line, about getting shot at school while standing outside or minding their own business, about the general state of the world, etc. We adults have failed them utterly with all this nonsense.

You are responding to me. Do you talk about this nonstop at home? Are you making the metal detectors and lines out to be a huge deal? Maybe that’s why they are worried. Mine are not. They are not concerned if they are late to class, for no fault of their own, because it will be excused. One of mine was late on the first day because of the bus. There was no stress or anxiety. Maybe you project your worries onto your kid.

Gatehouse...lol

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

We used to carry 7 textbooks, a 3-inch binder, lunch, an instrument, a bag for afterschool sports, etc. We only used 1 STRAP of the backpack, because if you used both you must be a nerd. Of course we didnt' have water bottles like the kids have now.

My Lord. Were the 80s and 90s that bad to you? You never, ever carried 7 textbooks at once - let's be honest now.

I carried an instrument, backpack and all the other things, too. But I wasn't made to take a select group of things out of my one-strap backpack, stand in a line and hold it over my head. All while some teacher was yelling at me to hurry up and there were 500 people behind me.

If you took things out of your backpack, let's hear where you went to school because it must have been Theodore Roosevelt.

DP. I laughed at the one strap reference. Somehow, I don’t remember by backpack ever being super heavy or anything but I surely remember only using one strap or else I’d look like a nerd.

I’m sure my parents worried more about me bringing things than I did. I remember them telling me to dress warm in the snow and wear a heavy coat. I wasn’t cold and didn’t need one. Some things don’t change. Our kids are not worried. We are. It will be fine.

What BS. The kids ARE worried, about being late to class, about having to get up much eariler to get their spot in line, about getting shot at school while standing outside or minding their own business, about the general state of the world, etc. We adults have failed them utterly with all this nonsense.

You are responding to me. Do you talk about this nonstop at home? Are you making the metal detectors and lines out to be a huge deal? Maybe that’s why they are worried. Mine are not. They are not concerned if they are late to class, for no fault of their own, because it will be excused. One of mine was late on the first day because of the bus. There was no stress or anxiety. Maybe you project your worries onto your kid.

Kids aren’t worried about being marked tardy. They are worried about missing valuable class instruction. You’re an idiot. Are your kids not in honors or AP classes? That’s probably why they aren’t worried - those classes are a joke.

this...teachers can't wait every day for 30-40 mins to start

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I can’t read 44 pages of comments, but you all are a bunch of whiners. These are not the first schools to implement screening. Yes, it will cause delays, especially at first. Everyone will learn the system and it will be fine. In this era of school violence, as a parent I’d be more annoyed that it took this long to put the security in place than over the inconvenience of adjusting to the new system.

After you've read the concerns come back and talk with the adults.

[Anonymous]

It’s week 2. Any improvement?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It’s week 2. Any improvement?

Nope. Easily 500+ kids outside of Westfield at 7:39 this morning waiting for the door to be unlocked.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I can’t read 44 pages of comments, but you all are a bunch of whiners. These are not the first schools to implement screening. Yes, it will cause delays, especially at first. Everyone will learn the system and it will be fine. In this era of school violence, as a parent I’d be more annoyed that it took this long to put the security in place than over the inconvenience of adjusting to the new system.

There is no "security", its theater. This isn't making anyone safer. That's the issue.

Exactly. At Woodson, they pulled out all the stops to improve the optics -- including having the Frost principal work the line, shoving the waiting kids into the auditorium so people outside couldn't see the line, doing no secondary screening of items perfectly capable of concealing a weapon, and waving kids through even when the detector goes off. No one is safer for this, and kids will get marked tardy. My kid got in at 8:08, and his first class is on the other side of the school more than a 2-minute walk away. The second bell is at 8:10, and the school's email on Friday stated that kids will be marked tardy starting today. This is a win for optics and a loss for actual substantive safety.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It’s week 2. Any improvement?

Nope. Easily 500+ kids outside of Westfield at 7:39 this morning waiting for the door to be unlocked.

What amazes me is there has been no communication at any point from the school or FCPS regarding the security screening, or the long lines, what their plans are to fix them, nothing! Just radio silence from Westfield admin.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I can’t read 44 pages of comments, but you all are a bunch of whiners. These are not the first schools to implement screening. Yes, it will cause delays, especially at first. Everyone will learn the system and it will be fine. In this era of school violence, as a parent I’d be more annoyed that it took this long to put the security in place than over the inconvenience of adjusting to the new system.

There is no "security", its theater. This isn't making anyone safer. That's the issue.

Exactly. At Woodson, they pulled out all the stops to improve the optics -- including having the Frost principal work the line, shoving the waiting kids into the auditorium so people outside couldn't see the line, doing no secondary screening of items perfectly capable of concealing a weapon, and waving kids through even when the detector goes off. No one is safer for this, and kids will get marked tardy. My kid got in at 8:08, and his first class is on the other side of the school more than a 2-minute walk away. The second bell is at 8:10, and the school's email on Friday stated that kids will be marked tardy starting today. This is a win for optics and a loss for actual substantive safety.

So kids waiting to be screened to go into school were waiting in the school?

Somebody make this make sense.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It’s week 2. Any improvement?

Nope. Easily 500+ kids outside of Westfield at 7:39 this morning waiting for the door to be unlocked.

My kids are younger but I drive by the front of Westfield to work on Tues/Wed/Fri and every morning last week looked like a fire drill was happening-huge crowds of kids standing outside. last week it was raining pretty hard one of the days too. This cannot be a safety improvement! What are they going to do in the winter? Are the kids just going to miss half their first class every day? You don't really appreciate how many kids 2700-2800 are until you see almost all of them standing around outside.

[Anonymous]

Westfield hot mess is what you get when you have one of biggest schools run by some of the laziest and disinterested people.

They did the pilot, it was a disaster and so they...changed absolutely nothing about the plan. Someone make that make sense! What's the point of a pilot if you don't learn anything.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I can’t read 44 pages of comments, but you all are a bunch of whiners. These are not the first schools to implement screening. Yes, it will cause delays, especially at first. Everyone will learn the system and it will be fine. In this era of school violence, as a parent I’d be more annoyed that it took this long to put the security in place than over the inconvenience of adjusting to the new system.

There is no "security", its theater. This isn't making anyone safer. That's the issue.

Exactly. At Woodson, they pulled out all the stops to improve the optics -- including having the Frost principal work the line, shoving the waiting kids into the auditorium so people outside couldn't see the line, doing no secondary screening of items perfectly capable of concealing a weapon, and waving kids through even when the detector goes off. No one is safer for this, and kids will get marked tardy. My kid got in at 8:08, and his first class is on the other side of the school more than a 2-minute walk away. The second bell is at 8:10, and the school's email on Friday stated that kids will be marked tardy starting today. This is a win for optics and a loss for actual substantive safety.

So kids waiting to be screened to go into school were waiting in the school?

Somebody make this make sense.

Yes. Everyone knows that lunatics won't use their weapons inside auditoriums or outside on the sidewalk. Duh.