MCPS to end areawide Blair Magnet and countywide Richard Montgomery's IB program

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Anonymous wrote:SMCs will be criteria based and all others will be lottery/ interest. It’s awful!


I thought they said each of the 5 areas would have both criteria-based and interest-based options?


Each of the 5 program areas (STEM, IB/Humanities, Arts, etc), I mean.


Yes STEM criteria based, all others interest.


Where did you see/hear that? I have been following very closely and haven't seen anything like that.


See slide 33

https://go.boarddocs.com/mabe/mcpsmd/Board.nsf/files/DJVQ4P6782A9/$file/Sec%20Prog%20Analysis%20Boundary%20Studies%20Engaga%20Plan%20Update%20250724%20PPT.pdf


Huh? Slide 33 doesn't say that at all. Slide 33 is an example of one of the program categories (the STEM one), illustrating how each program will have a mix of criteria and interest-based pathways but the interest-based pathways may vary from region to region. It says that some pathways within the program will be criteria-based (SMCS) and others will be interest-based (cyber-security, data science, etc ) The other 4 program types (IB/humanities, healthcare, arts/design, and leadership/public service) are not on this slide because it's just an example, but they will also have a mix of criteria and interest based pathways. Have you even been watching the meetings?


And Health shows all interest based too a few slides later . The fact they don’t describe anything else as criteria based specifically is worrisome.


So they are proposing 5 '"programs" and then multiple pathways within each program. Slide 33 is an example of one specific program (STEM) with what some of the pathways within it could look like. Slide 35 drills down further and gives an example of one particular pathway (in this case, the "Clinical Healthcare Pathway (interest-based)", one of multiple pathways that fall under the "Medical Science and Healthcare" program.). There will likely be a number of other pathways under Medical Science and Healthcare as well including one that is criteria-based, probably something along the lines of the Wheaton biomedical program. Slide 35 doesn't show "all interest based' pathways for health, it literally only looks at one of the many medical science/healthcare pathways and it just happens to be an interest-based one.


Do they have any options that teach proper use of hyphens in compound adjectives vs. predicate adjectives?


You are asking for too much. Aside from their education degrees, the superintendent has a social studies degree and the chief academic offer has a psychology degree. The head of the consortia program driving this locomotive has a BS in Human Ecology and Education. This is the brain trust that is making the decisions for the new program initiatives in MCPS.


Let’s keep this discussion relevant. Plenty of people have various degrees in various fields. And the Superintendent has a doctorate in education and a MBA.


Their subject area expertise is relevant. Take a look at the magnet curriculum. No one in central office knows what it takes to sequence and build that program. You can’t push copy and paste on something like this.


Second this. A PhD in education and a MBA doesn’t warrant one understand other subjects. Apparently Dr. Taylor is good at politics (MBA experience does help?), but he has no enthusiasm nor expertise in education. This is a tragedy for MCPS.


DP. I don’t get the complaint. He has a PhD in education. What would you like to see? A higher degree in STEM specifically? (I disagree that STEM is most important, but I see the slant of this board.)


Has a PhD degree != has expertise in.
In my mind, a good educator at least should have empathy and opening heart for listening and learning. Unfortunately, he has none of these traits.

Check out other threads on this platform about him. He is praised for being able to secure MCPS budget and fits into the MoCo political circle quite quickly, but criticized for cancelling special education programs, and not willing to hear any opinions but just sticking on his policies with an attitude that "you guys are idiots, and I'm correct". This is far away from a good educator. Dismantling these successful county-wide programs is just another good example to demonstrate that. I feel sorry for MCPS kids and teachers. This guy has no mercy.


Okay— to be clear I was inquiring what was wrong with his educational background. I wasn’t arguing that his educational background should be in itself sufficient.
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Anonymous wrote:What about CAP, MC2, Einstein's art program? Are they expanding those too?

What I see from those boundary assignments is the more gentrified down county schools are all in the same group, and some of the other clusters have mostly only poorer kids. Seems like it will reinforce socioeconomic segregation, which is bad.

Otoh, we own in the Blair/Montgomery cluster so housing price win for us.


The groupings are as socioeconomically diverse as possible under the circumstances, the circumstances in this case being generations of housing segregation.

I applaud MCPS for making the clusters east-to-west rather than north-to-south, and am not going to let the perfect be the enemy of the good here.

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Anonymous wrote:make sure you're looking at the most recent region groupings. The link on the MCPS message to region maps was an old version. Not all regions are east-to-west anymore.


Do you have a link to the new maps?


Starting on slide 23: https://go.boarddocs.com/mabe/mcpsmd/Board.nsf/files/DJVQ4P6782A9/$file/Sec%20Prog%20Analysis%20Boundary%20Studies%20Engaga%20Plan%20Update%20250724%20PPT.pdf

So, they are going with option #5? - pg 26.

DP. Yes. I think these boundaries balance higher and lower SES, and harmony of communities as much as possible. You cannot ignore harmony. I know a student from a very different community who was bussed into a program due to its opportunity at the insistence of their parent. That student was miserable and was elated at switching to a school community they could better resonate with at the first opportunity.
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Anonymous wrote:make sure you're looking at the most recent region groupings. The link on the MCPS message to region maps was an old version. Not all regions are east-to-west anymore.


Do you have a link to the new maps?


Starting on slide 23: https://go.boarddocs.com/mabe/mcpsmd/Board.nsf/files/DJVQ4P6782A9/$file/Sec%20Prog%20Analysis%20Boundary%20Studies%20Engaga%20Plan%20Update%20250724%20PPT.pdf

So, they are going with option #5? - pg 26.

DP. Yes. I think these boundaries balance higher and lower SES, and harmony of communities as much as possible. You cannot ignore harmony. I know a student from a very different community who was bussed into a program due to its opportunity at the insistence of their parent. That student was miserable and was elated at switching to a school community they could better resonate with at the first opportunity.


No one wants forced bussing. The best option is to put more money in the schools that don’t have much and make them equal. The disparities are significant. A smart kid at a w school can get all their classes and academics met. A smart kid dcc is forced to another school, Mc or go without. They don’t allow homeschooling or independent study or virtual classes outside Mcps. Or, at least being back virtual so it aligns with MCPS schedules.

The demographics are changing in mcps in the dcc due to crazy housing prices.

Blair is a great program but not for all kids. Not all kids want a magnet and prefer to choose their own classes and those kids should get the same opportunities. One reason why dcc kids try for Blair is the other schools don’t have the academics and they leave which causes the low scores.
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Anonymous wrote:SMCs will be criteria based and all others will be lottery/ interest. It’s awful!


I thought they said each of the 5 areas would have both criteria-based and interest-based options?


Each of the 5 program areas (STEM, IB/Humanities, Arts, etc), I mean.


Yes STEM criteria based, all others interest.


Where did you see/hear that? I have been following very closely and haven't seen anything like that.


See slide 33

https://go.boarddocs.com/mabe/mcpsmd/Board.nsf/files/DJVQ4P6782A9/$file/Sec%20Prog%20Analysis%20Boundary%20Studies%20Engaga%20Plan%20Update%20250724%20PPT.pdf


Huh? Slide 33 doesn't say that at all. Slide 33 is an example of one of the program categories (the STEM one), illustrating how each program will have a mix of criteria and interest-based pathways but the interest-based pathways may vary from region to region. It says that some pathways within the program will be criteria-based (SMCS) and others will be interest-based (cyber-security, data science, etc ) The other 4 program types (IB/humanities, healthcare, arts/design, and leadership/public service) are not on this slide because it's just an example, but they will also have a mix of criteria and interest based pathways. Have you even been watching the meetings?


And Health shows all interest based too a few slides later . The fact they don’t describe anything else as criteria based specifically is worrisome.


So they are proposing 5 '"programs" and then multiple pathways within each program. Slide 33 is an example of one specific program (STEM) with what some of the pathways within it could look like. Slide 35 drills down further and gives an example of one particular pathway (in this case, the "Clinical Healthcare Pathway (interest-based)", one of multiple pathways that fall under the "Medical Science and Healthcare" program.). There will likely be a number of other pathways under Medical Science and Healthcare as well including one that is criteria-based, probably something along the lines of the Wheaton biomedical program. Slide 35 doesn't show "all interest based' pathways for health, it literally only looks at one of the many medical science/healthcare pathways and it just happens to be an interest-based one.


Do they have any options that teach proper use of hyphens in compound adjectives vs. predicate adjectives?


MCPS does not teach grammar or spelling. You must not have kids in MCPS.


Yes it does. You must not have kids in ES.


Maybe at your school, but not at ours. They didn't teach spelling, grammar, math facts, or vocabulary. They handed the kids a dictionary and said look it up (and some of those kids couldn't read).

You are either trolling or you don't like your kids. Which one is it?


I’m tired of the bad academics at mcps and students not getting what they need.
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Anonymous wrote:make sure you're looking at the most recent region groupings. The link on the MCPS message to region maps was an old version. Not all regions are east-to-west anymore.


Do you have a link to the new maps?


Starting on slide 23: https://go.boarddocs.com/mabe/mcpsmd/Board.nsf/files/DJVQ4P6782A9/$file/Sec%20Prog%20Analysis%20Boundary%20Studies%20Engaga%20Plan%20Update%20250724%20PPT.pdf

So, they are going with option #5? - pg 26.

DP. Yes. I think these boundaries balance higher and lower SES, and harmony of communities as much as possible. You cannot ignore harmony. I know a student from a very different community who was bussed into a program due to its opportunity at the insistence of their parent. That student was miserable and was elated at switching to a school community they could better resonate with at the first opportunity.


No one wants forced bussing. The best option is to put more money in the schools that don’t have much and make them equal. The disparities are significant. A smart kid at a w school can get all their classes and academics met. A smart kid dcc is forced to another school, Mc or go without. They don’t allow homeschooling or independent study or virtual classes outside Mcps. Or, at least being back virtual so it aligns with MCPS schedules.

The demographics are changing in mcps in the dcc due to crazy housing prices.

Blair is a great program but not for all kids. Not all kids want a magnet and prefer to choose their own classes and those kids should get the same opportunities. One reason why dcc kids try for Blair is the other schools don’t have the academics and they leave which causes the low scores.


I think this is part of what MCPS is trying to figure out, and I credit Taylor with at least tackling it. My understanding is that they are going to make sure every school has a baseline number of advanced classes, and that they are currently auditing what is available where.

But we also need to be realistic and aim for what is possible. I think making sure every HS has AP Calculus BC is sufficient, and then bringing back virtual for MVC for some kids.

What other courses do you think every school should be offering?
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Anonymous wrote:make sure you're looking at the most recent region groupings. The link on the MCPS message to region maps was an old version. Not all regions are east-to-west anymore.


Do you have a link to the new maps?


Starting on slide 23: https://go.boarddocs.com/mabe/mcpsmd/Board.nsf/files/DJVQ4P6782A9/$file/Sec%20Prog%20Analysis%20Boundary%20Studies%20Engaga%20Plan%20Update%20250724%20PPT.pdf

So, they are going with option #5? - pg 26.

DP. Yes. I think these boundaries balance higher and lower SES, and harmony of communities as much as possible. You cannot ignore harmony. I know a student from a very different community who was bussed into a program due to its opportunity at the insistence of their parent. That student was miserable and was elated at switching to a school community they could better resonate with at the first opportunity.


No one wants forced bussing. The best option is to put more money in the schools that don’t have much and make them equal. The disparities are significant. A smart kid at a w school can get all their classes and academics met. A smart kid dcc is forced to another school, Mc or go without. They don’t allow homeschooling or independent study or virtual classes outside Mcps. Or, at least being back virtual so it aligns with MCPS schedules.

The demographics are changing in mcps in the dcc due to crazy housing prices.

Blair is a great program but not for all kids. Not all kids want a magnet and prefer to choose their own classes and those kids should get the same opportunities. One reason why dcc kids try for Blair is the other schools don’t have the academics and they leave which causes the low scores.


I think this is part of what MCPS is trying to figure out, and I credit Taylor with at least tackling it. My understanding is that they are going to make sure every school has a baseline number of advanced classes, and that they are currently auditing what is available where.

But we also need to be realistic and aim for what is possible. I think making sure every HS has AP Calculus BC is sufficient, and then bringing back virtual for MVC for some kids.

What other courses do you think every school should be offering?

There are highly able students in each region and those students should have access to rigorous magnet classes at Blair and RMIB. The regional model would make the chances of these highly able students getting in more likely.

Every HS does not need Blair SMAC and RMIB; the regional model would be able to pool enough students who are able to handle rigorous programs.

To answer your question, the typical AP classes you’d find in any above average public school should be offered in every public school.
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Anonymous wrote:38 pages of pissing back and forth... folks, if your kids are really smart, move to different school districts like howard county. if your kids are avg at best, stay in MCPS.

The brightest, smartest kids in the DMV are in MCPS. HoCo kids can't even compete with them.


Keep telling yourself and your kids that lie. Montgomery County is one of the most insufferable places on earth.

You guys think you’re so much better than “boring” River Hill parents who have 3x the money you have and your kids write the same recycled, generic college essays about how unique, progressive, and special they they are because they take overpriced public transit to school and sit next to minorities on the metro. You have a small handful of elite public schools and then a bunch of shitty and medicore schools with endless magnet programs that take kids from the small handful of elite catchment areas to push the test scores at your medicore schools up, and you’re not fooling anyone.
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Anonymous wrote:38 pages of pissing back and forth... folks, if your kids are really smart, move to different school districts like howard county. if your kids are avg at best, stay in MCPS.

The brightest, smartest kids in the DMV are in MCPS. HoCo kids can't even compete with them.


Keep telling yourself and your kids that lie. Montgomery County is one of the most insufferable places on earth.

You guys think you’re so much better than “boring” River Hill parents who have 3x the money you have and your kids write the same recycled, generic college essays about how unique, progressive, and special they they are because they take overpriced public transit to school and sit next to minorities on the metro. You have a small handful of elite public schools and then a bunch of shitty and medicore schools with endless magnet programs that take kids from the small handful of elite catchment areas to push the test scores at your medicore schools up, and you’re not fooling anyone.


Hey to be fair, magnets will be dead in a few years.
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Anonymous wrote:38 pages of pissing back and forth... folks, if your kids are really smart, move to different school districts like howard county. if your kids are avg at best, stay in MCPS.

The brightest, smartest kids in the DMV are in MCPS. HoCo kids can't even compete with them.


Keep telling yourself and your kids that lie. Montgomery County is one of the most insufferable places on earth.

You guys think you’re so much better than “boring” River Hill parents who have 3x the money you have and your kids write the same recycled, generic college essays about how unique, progressive, and special they they are because they take overpriced public transit to school and sit next to minorities on the metro. You have a small handful of elite public schools and then a bunch of shitty and medicore schools with endless magnet programs that take kids from the small handful of elite catchment areas to push the test scores at your medicore schools up, and you’re not fooling anyone.


Fair statement, and the magnet programs are dead in a few years also, so nothing to cover-up the mediocrity and shitty anymore. Cheers to MoCo central office! You should be proud of tearing down your last fig leaf by your own hand.
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Anonymous wrote:make sure you're looking at the most recent region groupings. The link on the MCPS message to region maps was an old version. Not all regions are east-to-west anymore.


Do you have a link to the new maps?


Starting on slide 23: https://go.boarddocs.com/mabe/mcpsmd/Board.nsf/files/DJVQ4P6782A9/$file/Sec%20Prog%20Analysis%20Boundary%20Studies%20Engaga%20Plan%20Update%20250724%20PPT.pdf

So, they are going with option #5? - pg 26.

DP. Yes. I think these boundaries balance higher and lower SES, and harmony of communities as much as possible. You cannot ignore harmony. I know a student from a very different community who was bussed into a program due to its opportunity at the insistence of their parent. That student was miserable and was elated at switching to a school community they could better resonate with at the first opportunity.


No one wants forced bussing. The best option is to put more money in the schools that don’t have much and make them equal. The disparities are significant. A smart kid at a w school can get all their classes and academics met. A smart kid dcc is forced to another school, Mc or go without. They don’t allow homeschooling or independent study or virtual classes outside Mcps. Or, at least being back virtual so it aligns with MCPS schedules.

The demographics are changing in mcps in the dcc due to crazy housing prices.

Blair is a great program but not for all kids. Not all kids want a magnet and prefer to choose their own classes and those kids should get the same opportunities. One reason why dcc kids try for Blair is the other schools don’t have the academics and they leave which causes the low scores.


I think this is part of what MCPS is trying to figure out, and I credit Taylor with at least tackling it. My understanding is that they are going to make sure every school has a baseline number of advanced classes, and that they are currently auditing what is available where.

But we also need to be realistic and aim for what is possible. I think making sure every HS has AP Calculus BC is sufficient, and then bringing back virtual for MVC for some kids.

What other courses do you think every school should be offering?

Does MCPS have enough good math teachers to teach AP BC calc in every HS? There's a shortage of STEM teachers. I don't think MCPS can find enough good teachers for math.

My kid wanted to take AB Calc but the teacher was so bad that they downgraded to Applied Calc. A bad math teacher can make the class awful, and the kid to hate math.
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Anonymous wrote:SMCs will be criteria based and all others will be lottery/ interest. It’s awful!


I thought they said each of the 5 areas would have both criteria-based and interest-based options?


Each of the 5 program areas (STEM, IB/Humanities, Arts, etc), I mean.


Yes STEM criteria based, all others interest.


Where did you see/hear that? I have been following very closely and haven't seen anything like that.


See slide 33

https://go.boarddocs.com/mabe/mcpsmd/Board.nsf/files/DJVQ4P6782A9/$file/Sec%20Prog%20Analysis%20Boundary%20Studies%20Engaga%20Plan%20Update%20250724%20PPT.pdf


Huh? Slide 33 doesn't say that at all. Slide 33 is an example of one of the program categories (the STEM one), illustrating how each program will have a mix of criteria and interest-based pathways but the interest-based pathways may vary from region to region. It says that some pathways within the program will be criteria-based (SMCS) and others will be interest-based (cyber-security, data science, etc ) The other 4 program types (IB/humanities, healthcare, arts/design, and leadership/public service) are not on this slide because it's just an example, but they will also have a mix of criteria and interest based pathways. Have you even been watching the meetings?


And Health shows all interest based too a few slides later . The fact they don’t describe anything else as criteria based specifically is worrisome.


So they are proposing 5 '"programs" and then multiple pathways within each program. Slide 33 is an example of one specific program (STEM) with what some of the pathways within it could look like. Slide 35 drills down further and gives an example of one particular pathway (in this case, the "Clinical Healthcare Pathway (interest-based)", one of multiple pathways that fall under the "Medical Science and Healthcare" program.). There will likely be a number of other pathways under Medical Science and Healthcare as well including one that is criteria-based, probably something along the lines of the Wheaton biomedical program. Slide 35 doesn't show "all interest based' pathways for health, it literally only looks at one of the many medical science/healthcare pathways and it just happens to be an interest-based one.


Do they have any options that teach proper use of hyphens in compound adjectives vs. predicate adjectives?


You are asking for too much. Aside from their education degrees, the superintendent has a social studies degree and the chief academic offer has a psychology degree. The head of the consortia program driving this locomotive has a BS in Human Ecology and Education. This is the brain trust that is making the decisions for the new program initiatives in MCPS.


Let’s keep this discussion relevant. Plenty of people have various degrees in various fields. And the Superintendent has a doctorate in education and a MBA.


Their subject area expertise is relevant. Take a look at the magnet curriculum. No one in central office knows what it takes to sequence and build that program. You can’t push copy and paste on something like this.


Second this. A PhD in education and a MBA doesn’t warrant one understand other subjects. Apparently Dr. Taylor is good at politics (MBA experience does help?), but he has no enthusiasm nor expertise in education. This is a tragedy for MCPS.


DP. I don’t get the complaint. He has a PhD in education. What would you like to see? A higher degree in STEM specifically? (I disagree that STEM is most important, but I see the slant of this board.)


Has a PhD degree != has expertise in.
In my mind, a good educator at least should have empathy and opening heart for listening and learning. Unfortunately, he has none of these traits.

Check out other threads on this platform about him. He is praised for being able to secure MCPS budget and fits into the MoCo political circle quite quickly, but criticized for cancelling special education programs, and not willing to hear any opinions but just sticking on his policies with an attitude that "you guys are idiots, and I'm correct". This is far away from a good educator. Dismantling these successful county-wide programs is just another good example to demonstrate that. I feel sorry for MCPS kids and teachers. This guy has no mercy.


Just because he is being criticized doesn’t mean he lacks empathy or an open mind. I’m not even a Taylor defender but the above is crazy. Leaders have to make decisions even when everyone isn’t happy. In fact a huge part of leadership is weighing the tradeoff and making decisions despite who will be happy or criticize. He’s been an educator an administrator and superintendent elsewhere. He has a PhD and a MBA. Whether he is the best person for the job is something that can be debated, but it’s clear he’s not lacking Education or Education Business background.

And quite frankly MCPS does not need mercy right now. It’s needs someone to weight options and make decisions in the best interest of education and kids. And that means telling some of these parents to pipe down and get over themselves and to in fact listen to people with expertise.
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Anonymous wrote:make sure you're looking at the most recent region groupings. The link on the MCPS message to region maps was an old version. Not all regions are east-to-west anymore.


Do you have a link to the new maps?


Starting on slide 23: https://go.boarddocs.com/mabe/mcpsmd/Board.nsf/files/DJVQ4P6782A9/$file/Sec%20Prog%20Analysis%20Boundary%20Studies%20Engaga%20Plan%20Update%20250724%20PPT.pdf

So, they are going with option #5? - pg 26.

DP. Yes. I think these boundaries balance higher and lower SES, and harmony of communities as much as possible. You cannot ignore harmony. I know a student from a very different community who was bussed into a program due to its opportunity at the insistence of their parent. That student was miserable and was elated at switching to a school community they could better resonate with at the first opportunity.


No one wants forced bussing. The best option is to put more money in the schools that don’t have much and make them equal. The disparities are significant. A smart kid at a w school can get all their classes and academics met. A smart kid dcc is forced to another school, Mc or go without. They don’t allow homeschooling or independent study or virtual classes outside Mcps. Or, at least being back virtual so it aligns with MCPS schedules.

The demographics are changing in mcps in the dcc due to crazy housing prices.

Blair is a great program but not for all kids. Not all kids want a magnet and prefer to choose their own classes and those kids should get the same opportunities. One reason why dcc kids try for Blair is the other schools don’t have the academics and they leave which causes the low scores.


I think this is part of what MCPS is trying to figure out, and I credit Taylor with at least tackling it. My understanding is that they are going to make sure every school has a baseline number of advanced classes, and that they are currently auditing what is available where.

But we also need to be realistic and aim for what is possible. I think making sure every HS has AP Calculus BC is sufficient, and then bringing back virtual for MVC for some kids.

What other courses do you think every school should be offering?


All school should offer MV and Linear Algebra. No, its not good enough and its a huge issue for some of our kids. Let me guess, your kids have access to MV so its no big deal. All the AP classes and advanced math should be offered at every school. Our school has no science AP's either.
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Anonymous wrote:make sure you're looking at the most recent region groupings. The link on the MCPS message to region maps was an old version. Not all regions are east-to-west anymore.


Do you have a link to the new maps?


Starting on slide 23: https://go.boarddocs.com/mabe/mcpsmd/Board.nsf/files/DJVQ4P6782A9/$file/Sec%20Prog%20Analysis%20Boundary%20Studies%20Engaga%20Plan%20Update%20250724%20PPT.pdf

So, they are going with option #5? - pg 26.

DP. Yes. I think these boundaries balance higher and lower SES, and harmony of communities as much as possible. You cannot ignore harmony. I know a student from a very different community who was bussed into a program due to its opportunity at the insistence of their parent. That student was miserable and was elated at switching to a school community they could better resonate with at the first opportunity.


No one wants forced bussing. The best option is to put more money in the schools that don’t have much and make them equal. The disparities are significant. A smart kid at a w school can get all their classes and academics met. A smart kid dcc is forced to another school, Mc or go without. They don’t allow homeschooling or independent study or virtual classes outside Mcps. Or, at least being back virtual so it aligns with MCPS schedules.

The demographics are changing in mcps in the dcc due to crazy housing prices.

Blair is a great program but not for all kids. Not all kids want a magnet and prefer to choose their own classes and those kids should get the same opportunities. One reason why dcc kids try for Blair is the other schools don’t have the academics and they leave which causes the low scores.


I think this is part of what MCPS is trying to figure out, and I credit Taylor with at least tackling it. My understanding is that they are going to make sure every school has a baseline number of advanced classes, and that they are currently auditing what is available where.

But we also need to be realistic and aim for what is possible. I think making sure every HS has AP Calculus BC is sufficient, and then bringing back virtual for MVC for some kids.

What other courses do you think every school should be offering?

Does MCPS have enough good math teachers to teach AP BC calc in every HS? There's a shortage of STEM teachers. I don't think MCPS can find enough good teachers for math.

My kid wanted to take AB Calc but the teacher was so bad that they downgraded to Applied Calc. A bad math teacher can make the class awful, and the kid to hate math.


Good and qualified are two different things. Ours has at least two. We have had to have a math tutor as the teaching wasn't strong especially with no textbooks.
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Anonymous wrote:make sure you're looking at the most recent region groupings. The link on the MCPS message to region maps was an old version. Not all regions are east-to-west anymore.


Do you have a link to the new maps?


Starting on slide 23: https://go.boarddocs.com/mabe/mcpsmd/Board.nsf/files/DJVQ4P6782A9/$file/Sec%20Prog%20Analysis%20Boundary%20Studies%20Engaga%20Plan%20Update%20250724%20PPT.pdf

So, they are going with option #5? - pg 26.

DP. Yes. I think these boundaries balance higher and lower SES, and harmony of communities as much as possible. You cannot ignore harmony. I know a student from a very different community who was bussed into a program due to its opportunity at the insistence of their parent. That student was miserable and was elated at switching to a school community they could better resonate with at the first opportunity.


No one wants forced bussing. The best option is to put more money in the schools that don’t have much and make them equal. The disparities are significant. A smart kid at a w school can get all their classes and academics met. A smart kid dcc is forced to another school, Mc or go without. They don’t allow homeschooling or independent study or virtual classes outside Mcps. Or, at least being back virtual so it aligns with MCPS schedules.

The demographics are changing in mcps in the dcc due to crazy housing prices.

Blair is a great program but not for all kids. Not all kids want a magnet and prefer to choose their own classes and those kids should get the same opportunities. One reason why dcc kids try for Blair is the other schools don’t have the academics and they leave which causes the low scores.


I think this is part of what MCPS is trying to figure out, and I credit Taylor with at least tackling it. My understanding is that they are going to make sure every school has a baseline number of advanced classes, and that they are currently auditing what is available where.

But we also need to be realistic and aim for what is possible. I think making sure every HS has AP Calculus BC is sufficient, and then bringing back virtual for MVC for some kids.

What other courses do you think every school should be offering?

There are highly able students in each region and those students should have access to rigorous magnet classes at Blair and RMIB. The regional model would make the chances of these highly able students getting in more likely.

Every HS does not need Blair SMAC and RMIB; the regional model would be able to pool enough students who are able to handle rigorous programs.

To answer your question, the typical AP classes you’d find in any above average public school should be offered in every public school.


No, not all these kids want to go to these magnets. They are very restricted in the class schedule and it doesn't appeal to all. But the course offerings at the W schools and DCC for example are significant.
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