MOCO - County Wide Upzoning, Everywhere

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In this thread: NIMBYs gonna NIMBY. It's actually entertaining.

And YIMBY shills spamming disinformation about prices lowering. Housing and rental prices are controlled by a cartel. They will never go down. They want to upzone everything because it fattens their margins. Period.

Yeah, no. The only people making tons of money are homeowners, idiot.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Houston doesn't have zoning laws. If only we could be more like....Houston?

Montgomery County is not proposing to get rid of the zoning code.

I was told that zoning laws, and those mean old NIMBYs, are the source of all of our problems. Once we do this, housing will be plentiful and cheap, right? We can all live in the best areas for extremely reasonable prices?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Houston doesn't have zoning laws. If only we could be more like....Houston?

Montgomery County is not proposing to get rid of the zoning code.

I was told that zoning laws, and those mean old NIMBYs, are the source of all of our problems. Once we do this, housing will be plentiful and cheap, right? We can all live in the best areas for extremely reasonable prices?

No, you weren't. If you enjoy this hobby, by all means keep at it, but it doesn't seem like it's making you very happy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In this thread: NIMBYs gonna NIMBY. It's actually entertaining.

And YIMBY shills spamming disinformation about prices lowering. Housing and rental prices are controlled by a cartel. They will never go down. They want to upzone everything because it fattens their margins. Period.

Yeah, no. The only people making tons of money are homeowners, idiot.

Especially the corporate homeowners who own thousands of units and collude to fix prices.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In this thread: NIMBYs gonna NIMBY. It's actually entertaining.

And YIMBY shills spamming disinformation about prices lowering. Housing and rental prices are controlled by a cartel. They will never go down. They want to upzone everything because it fattens their margins. Period.

Yeah, no. The only people making tons of money are homeowners, idiot.

You should have purchased a house, sport. Now you are mad and want to ruin it for the people that did, we see you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Houston doesn't have zoning laws. If only we could be more like....Houston?

Montgomery County is not proposing to get rid of the zoning code.

I was told that zoning laws, and those mean old NIMBYs, are the source of all of our problems. Once we do this, housing will be plentiful and cheap, right? We can all live in the best areas for extremely reasonable prices?

The YImBYs are just useful idiots. Unfortunately, not useful to many.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In this thread: NIMBYs gonna NIMBY. It's actually entertaining.

And YIMBY shills spamming disinformation about prices lowering. Housing and rental prices are controlled by a cartel. They will never go down. They want to upzone everything because it fattens their margins. Period.

Yeah, no. The only people making tons of money are homeowners, idiot.

You should have purchased a house, sport. Now you are mad and want to ruin it for the people that did, we see you.

DP. I own a house, which I bought. I also understand that "I've got mine" is not the basis for a good housing policy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In this thread: NIMBYs gonna NIMBY. It's actually entertaining.

And YIMBY shills spamming disinformation about prices lowering. Housing and rental prices are controlled by a cartel. They will never go down. They want to upzone everything because it fattens their margins. Period.

Yeah, no. The only people making tons of money are homeowners, idiot.

You should have purchased a house, sport. Now you are mad and want to ruin it for the people that did, we see you.

DP. I own a house, which I bought. I also understand that "I've got mine" is not the basis for a good housing policy.

Same. Would love to see a housing policy based on increasing SFH in the county instead of eliminating them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In this thread: NIMBYs gonna NIMBY. It's actually entertaining.

And YIMBY shills spamming disinformation about prices lowering. Housing and rental prices are controlled by a cartel. They will never go down. They want to upzone everything because it fattens their margins. Period.

Yeah, no. The only people making tons of money are homeowners, idiot.

You should have purchased a house, sport. Now you are mad and want to ruin it for the people that did, we see you.

DP. I own a house, which I bought. I also understand that "I've got mine" is not the basis for a good housing policy.

Same. Would love to see a housing policy based on increasing SFH in the county instead of eliminating them.

I don't know where you live, but here where I live, in Montgomery County, Maryland, nobody is proposing to eliminate SFHs.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In this thread: NIMBYs gonna NIMBY. It's actually entertaining.

And YIMBY shills spamming disinformation about prices lowering. Housing and rental prices are controlled by a cartel. They will never go down. They want to upzone everything because it fattens their margins. Period.

Yeah, no. The only people making tons of money are homeowners, idiot.

You should have purchased a house, sport. Now you are mad and want to ruin it for the people that did, we see you.

DP. I own a house, which I bought. I also understand that "I've got mine" is not the basis for a good housing policy.

Same. Would love to see a housing policy based on increasing SFH in the county instead of eliminating them.

I don't know where you live, but here where I live, in Montgomery County, Maryland, nobody is proposing to eliminate SFHs.

Be honest, now. Won’t some SFH be eliminated and replaced by multiplexes? Won’t that reduce supply of SFH? It’s pretty simple math. Now tell me what happens to prices when you reduce supply of something

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In this thread: NIMBYs gonna NIMBY. It's actually entertaining.

And YIMBY shills spamming disinformation about prices lowering. Housing and rental prices are controlled by a cartel. They will never go down. They want to upzone everything because it fattens their margins. Period.

Yeah, no. The only people making tons of money are homeowners, idiot.

You should have purchased a house, sport. Now you are mad and want to ruin it for the people that did, we see you.

DP. I own a house, which I bought. I also understand that "I've got mine" is not the basis for a good housing policy.

Same. Would love to see a housing policy based on increasing SFH in the county instead of eliminating them.

I don't know where you live, but here where I live, in Montgomery County, Maryland, nobody is proposing to eliminate SFHs.

Be honest, now. Won’t some SFH be eliminated and replaced by multiplexes? Won’t that reduce supply of SFH? It’s pretty simple math. Now tell me what happens to prices when you reduce supply of something

You sound like the Daleks on Dr. Who.

Will some uniplexes be replaced by multiplexes? Yes, that is the whole point. Will it reduce the supply of uniplexes? Yes. Will it increase the supply of housing units? Yes. Is it good housing policy? Yes. Is it good land use policy? Yes. Is it good transportation policy? Yes. Is it good environmental policy? Yes. Is it good fiscal policy for the county? Yes. Will it increase property values for people who currently own uniplexes? Yes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In this thread: NIMBYs gonna NIMBY. It's actually entertaining.

And YIMBY shills spamming disinformation about prices lowering. Housing and rental prices are controlled by a cartel. They will never go down. They want to upzone everything because it fattens their margins. Period.

Yeah, no. The only people making tons of money are homeowners, idiot.

You should have purchased a house, sport. Now you are mad and want to ruin it for the people that did, we see you.

DP. I own a house, which I bought. I also understand that "I've got mine" is not the basis for a good housing policy.

Same. Would love to see a housing policy based on increasing SFH in the county instead of eliminating them.

I don't know where you live, but here where I live, in Montgomery County, Maryland, nobody is proposing to eliminate SFHs.

Be honest, now. Won’t some SFH be eliminated and replaced by multiplexes? Won’t that reduce supply of SFH? It’s pretty simple math. Now tell me what happens to prices when you reduce supply of something

You sound like the Daleks on Dr. Who.

Will some uniplexes be replaced by multiplexes? Yes, that is the whole point. Will it reduce the supply of uniplexes? Yes. Will it increase the supply of housing units? Yes. Is it good housing policy? Yes. Is it good land use policy? Yes. Is it good transportation policy? Yes. Is it good environmental policy? Yes. Is it good fiscal policy for the county? Yes. Will it increase property values for people who currently own uniplexes? Yes.

That’s a lot of words to say your idea is going to make a SFH less attainable for more people but thanks for being honest about that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In this thread: NIMBYs gonna NIMBY. It's actually entertaining.

And YIMBY shills spamming disinformation about prices lowering. Housing and rental prices are controlled by a cartel. They will never go down. They want to upzone everything because it fattens their margins. Period.

Yeah, no. The only people making tons of money are homeowners, idiot.

You should have purchased a house, sport. Now you are mad and want to ruin it for the people that did, we see you.

DP. I own a house, which I bought. I also understand that "I've got mine" is not the basis for a good housing policy.

Same. Would love to see a housing policy based on increasing SFH in the county instead of eliminating them.

I don't know where you live, but here where I live, in Montgomery County, Maryland, nobody is proposing to eliminate SFHs.

Be honest, now. Won’t some SFH be eliminated and replaced by multiplexes? Won’t that reduce supply of SFH? It’s pretty simple math. Now tell me what happens to prices when you reduce supply of something

You sound like the Daleks on Dr. Who.

Will some uniplexes be replaced by multiplexes? Yes, that is the whole point. Will it reduce the supply of uniplexes? Yes. Will it increase the supply of housing units? Yes. Is it good housing policy? Yes. Is it good land use policy? Yes. Is it good transportation policy? Yes. Is it good environmental policy? Yes. Is it good fiscal policy for the county? Yes. Will it increase property values for people who currently own uniplexes? Yes.

That’s a lot of words to say your idea is going to make a SFH less attainable for more people but thanks for being honest about that.

It's good for people's ability to afford housing, people's ability to get around, water quality, air quality, the global climate, the county's fiscal bottom line, and property values for people who currently own SFHs, but it will also make SFHs more expensive for the subgroup of people who want them, so who's to say whether it's good or not?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In this thread: NIMBYs gonna NIMBY. It's actually entertaining.

And YIMBY shills spamming disinformation about prices lowering. Housing and rental prices are controlled by a cartel. They will never go down. They want to upzone everything because it fattens their margins. Period.

Yeah, no. The only people making tons of money are homeowners, idiot.

You should have purchased a house, sport. Now you are mad and want to ruin it for the people that did, we see you.

DP. I own a house, which I bought. I also understand that "I've got mine" is not the basis for a good housing policy.

Same. Would love to see a housing policy based on increasing SFH in the county instead of eliminating them.

I don't know where you live, but here where I live, in Montgomery County, Maryland, nobody is proposing to eliminate SFHs.

Be honest, now. Won’t some SFH be eliminated and replaced by multiplexes? Won’t that reduce supply of SFH? It’s pretty simple math. Now tell me what happens to prices when you reduce supply of something

You sound like the Daleks on Dr. Who.

Will some uniplexes be replaced by multiplexes? Yes, that is the whole point. Will it reduce the supply of uniplexes? Yes. Will it increase the supply of housing units? Yes. Is it good housing policy? Yes. Is it good land use policy? Yes. Is it good transportation policy? Yes. Is it good environmental policy? Yes. Is it good fiscal policy for the county? Yes. Will it increase property values for people who currently own uniplexes? Yes.

You lost me at uniplex haha. Playing word games to pretend like single family houses are similar to multi family units. They are not similar and multifamily units create more impact on county infrastructure that a single family home. The effect of this policy is to force people to live in multifamily housing by making singe family houses even more unaffordable. The county said nothing about trying to make single family homes more affordable in their presentation. Multifamily units are cheaper on average partly because most people want single family homes here. You are trying to justify a zoning change that most people don’t want to enforce your lifestyle preferences on everyone else. Yes Supply and Demand determine prices. The prices are also a strong indication that the housing shortage is the greatest for single family homes. MOCO is doubling down on failed policies that will kill middle class homeownership and encourage production of housing types that have the lowest demand.

[Anonymous]

The county council cramming this down our throats is such hypocrisy. Check out Will Jawando's house.

17329 Avenleigh Dr, Ashton MD

https://www.redfin.com/MD/Ashton/17329-Avenleigh-Dr-20861/home/10729459

This is "public service".