Why does no one acknowledge how overworked teachers are?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I had water damage in my basement and needed a total overhaul. the construction team has been here for a week and they arrive at 7am and leave at 6pm. They have ripped out carpet, drywall, a bathroom and have dealt with mold, tiling, carpet installation, fixing of stairs, etc...

They seem overworked and no one is posting about them?

They, uh shouldn’t be there that long.

Are they speaking another language?

Did your contractor hire out unskilled day laborers or immigrants who are too afraid of being deported to require the contractor to stick to labor laws?

I’m not sure I would point this out as an example of a good way to hire and keep workers under US labor laws….

This is totally normal for contractors and construction. Also your post is just gross. Why are you assuming construction workers don’t speak English and can’t stand up for themselves. Construction is WAY harder than teaching and WAY less appreciated. I know you’re going to have a hard time accepting that, but it’s true.

I worked construction (specifically industrial concrete, think warehouse floors and other large concrete slabs requiring up to 40 concrete trucks a day) while in college. Yes construction is physically demanding. You don’t see too many workers after age 50. However teaching is far more emotionally and intellectually demanding. You have to be always “on” without any mental or physical breaks. In construction I was basically just on mental and physical autopilot all day. Much easier in comparison in terms of stress. Lots of breaks. Hanging out with buddies. Listening to music. Way different and easy compared to teaching.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Here: I acknowledge that teachers feel overworked.

Heck, I’ll take it. I notice you used “feel” instead of “are,” but this is still one of the nicer things on this thread. Thank you!

-A teacher heading into hour 11 of work today. Just 2 more hours of grading to go. (So… a normal day.)

Maybe if you spent less time on DCUM…

Cute response. I am allowed to take a breather from grading every 3-4 essays, correct? I always tell my students to look up from studying every 30 minutes or so…

Well if you’re taking breaks every 30 minutes I’m really not surprised you’re pulling 11 hour + days. I certainly do not take breaks from work every 30 minutes. And I definitely am not scrolling DCUM (I don’t even have access to it).

Neither am I when I’m at work. That first 11 hours? In my classroom without my phone, which was in my closet. That’s where it resides all day every day. That time on DCUM? That was my first time checking personal accounts all day. I’m sorry if a few breaks during my evening hours is somehow too much for you. My brain needs a couple of moments. I robotically worked ALL DAY. I’d like to think I’m entitled to a short break. If I chose to do that on DCUM, is that so bad? And yes, I put papers down ever 30 minutes at home for a breather, which is exactly what I tell my students to do so they can start work again refreshed after the break. Again… is that so bad?

Ask yourself why you feel the need to pick on a teacher. You made assumptions… like I even have the chance at work to TOUCH my phone. I’m responsible for 150 students. I don’t have time to go to the bathroom, much less scroll DCUM.

It’s so hard to be kind, apparently.

NP but you spend 11 hours a day in your classroom working, not even checking your cell phone once? I’m sorry that’s a choice and there are other teaching jobs out there that do not expect you to do that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I had water damage in my basement and needed a total overhaul. the construction team has been here for a week and they arrive at 7am and leave at 6pm. They have ripped out carpet, drywall, a bathroom and have dealt with mold, tiling, carpet installation, fixing of stairs, etc...

They seem overworked and no one is posting about them?

They, uh shouldn’t be there that long.

Are they speaking another language?

Did your contractor hire out unskilled day laborers or immigrants who are too afraid of being deported to require the contractor to stick to labor laws?

I’m not sure I would point this out as an example of a good way to hire and keep workers under US labor laws….

This is totally normal for contractors and construction. Also your post is just gross. Why are you assuming construction workers don’t speak English and can’t stand up for themselves. Construction is WAY harder than teaching and WAY less appreciated. I know you’re going to have a hard time accepting that, but it’s true.

I worked construction (specifically industrial concrete, think warehouse floors and other large concrete slabs requiring up to 40 concrete trucks a day) while in college. Yes construction is physically demanding. You don’t see too many workers after age 50. However teaching is far more emotionally and intellectually demanding. You have to be always “on” without any mental or physical breaks. In construction I was basically just on mental and physical autopilot all day. Much easier in comparison in terms of stress. Lots of breaks. Hanging out with buddies. Listening to music. Way different and easy compared to teaching.

This is a great way to put it. I was a mover before I was a teacher and that's exactly right. It's so different to show up to a job sleepy when you're mostly focused on a physical task, vs having to use emotional intelligence and present complex material

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here: I acknowledge that teachers feel overworked.

Heck, I’ll take it. I notice you used “feel” instead of “are,” but this is still one of the nicer things on this thread. Thank you!

-A teacher heading into hour 11 of work today. Just 2 more hours of grading to go. (So… a normal day.)

Maybe if you spent less time on DCUM…

Cute response. I am allowed to take a breather from grading every 3-4 essays, correct? I always tell my students to look up from studying every 30 minutes or so…

Well if you’re taking breaks every 30 minutes I’m really not surprised you’re pulling 11 hour + days. I certainly do not take breaks from work every 30 minutes. And I definitely am not scrolling DCUM (I don’t even have access to it).

Neither am I when I’m at work. That first 11 hours? In my classroom without my phone, which was in my closet. That’s where it resides all day every day. That time on DCUM? That was my first time checking personal accounts all day. I’m sorry if a few breaks during my evening hours is somehow too much for you. My brain needs a couple of moments. I robotically worked ALL DAY. I’d like to think I’m entitled to a short break. If I chose to do that on DCUM, is that so bad? And yes, I put papers down ever 30 minutes at home for a breather, which is exactly what I tell my students to do so they can start work again refreshed after the break. Again… is that so bad?

Ask yourself why you feel the need to pick on a teacher. You made assumptions… like I even have the chance at work to TOUCH my phone. I’m responsible for 150 students. I don’t have time to go to the bathroom, much less scroll DCUM.

It’s so hard to be kind, apparently.

NP but you spend 11 hours a day in your classroom working, not even checking your cell phone once? I’m sorry that’s a choice and there are other teaching jobs out there that do not expect you to do that.

1. I’d need to have time to play on my phone. I don’t. My family knows to call the school’s main office if I’m needed at home.
2. I am expected to model the behaviors I expect of my students. Their phones aren’t allowed to be out, so why should mine?

Yes, I last 11 hours a day without my phone. It’s actually not that hard, especially when you’re distracted by 140 moving parts around you. (I’m aware some people with clearances manage to survive without theirs, as well.) Yes, it is my choice. I am good at my job, and this is one of the reasons why: I work hard and I expect the same from my students

As it stands, I’ll be a “former teacher” this summer. I don’t want this pressure anymore. And now I’m off to grade more.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here: I acknowledge that teachers feel overworked.

Heck, I’ll take it. I notice you used “feel” instead of “are,” but this is still one of the nicer things on this thread. Thank you!

-A teacher heading into hour 11 of work today. Just 2 more hours of grading to go. (So… a normal day.)

Maybe if you spent less time on DCUM…

Cute response. I am allowed to take a breather from grading every 3-4 essays, correct? I always tell my students to look up from studying every 30 minutes or so…

Well if you’re taking breaks every 30 minutes I’m really not surprised you’re pulling 11 hour + days. I certainly do not take breaks from work every 30 minutes. And I definitely am not scrolling DCUM (I don’t even have access to it).

Neither am I when I’m at work. That first 11 hours? In my classroom without my phone, which was in my closet. That’s where it resides all day every day. That time on DCUM? That was my first time checking personal accounts all day. I’m sorry if a few breaks during my evening hours is somehow too much for you. My brain needs a couple of moments. I robotically worked ALL DAY. I’d like to think I’m entitled to a short break. If I chose to do that on DCUM, is that so bad? And yes, I put papers down ever 30 minutes at home for a breather, which is exactly what I tell my students to do so they can start work again refreshed after the break. Again… is that so bad?

Ask yourself why you feel the need to pick on a teacher. You made assumptions… like I even have the chance at work to TOUCH my phone. I’m responsible for 150 students. I don’t have time to go to the bathroom, much less scroll DCUM.

It’s so hard to be kind, apparently.

NP but you spend 11 hours a day in your classroom working, not even checking your cell phone once? I’m sorry that’s a choice and there are other teaching jobs out there that do not expect you to do that.

1. I’d need to have time to play on my phone. I don’t. My family knows to call the school’s main office if I’m needed at home.
2. I am expected to model the behaviors I expect of my students. Their phones aren’t allowed to be out, so why should mine?

Yes, I last 11 hours a day without my phone. It’s actually not that hard, especially when you’re distracted by 140 moving parts around you. (I’m aware some people with clearances manage to survive without theirs, as well.) Yes, it is my choice. I am good at my job, and this is one of the reasons why: I work hard and I expect the same from my students

As it stands, I’ll be a “former teacher” this summer. I don’t want this pressure anymore. And now I’m off to grade more.

I'm a teacher and I leave my phone on my desk on vibrate. My family is important to me and as a single parent, I need my phone in case of an emergency with my kids. Students are students. They don't have the same responsibilities as their parents so they don't need phone access at school.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Teachers lost all credibility when they chose not to teach and sold the idea that it didn't really matter

They did teach. Their employers set the conditions of their employment, not you. Enjoy staying ignorant.

Most did not teach and did not oppose the teaching bans.


The profession is dead.

good parenting seems to be dead too.

Difference is, we don't pay parents $100k+ plus lifelong pensions for being good parents, do we?

Well at least you are admitting that parents don't parent thats a start.

Right? We should just take all those kids away from their parents. Put them in warehouses or something. Send them to work. Obviously they can't be educated, even by wonderful hardworking teachers.

Hmmm....odd take maybe parents could just start parenting again. That would be a good place to start.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here: I acknowledge that teachers feel overworked.

Heck, I’ll take it. I notice you used “feel” instead of “are,” but this is still one of the nicer things on this thread. Thank you!

-A teacher heading into hour 11 of work today. Just 2 more hours of grading to go. (So… a normal day.)

Maybe if you spent less time on DCUM…

Cute response. I am allowed to take a breather from grading every 3-4 essays, correct? I always tell my students to look up from studying every 30 minutes or so…

Well if you’re taking breaks every 30 minutes I’m really not surprised you’re pulling 11 hour + days. I certainly do not take breaks from work every 30 minutes. And I definitely am not scrolling DCUM (I don’t even have access to it).

Neither am I when I’m at work. That first 11 hours? In my classroom without my phone, which was in my closet. That’s where it resides all day every day. That time on DCUM? That was my first time checking personal accounts all day. I’m sorry if a few breaks during my evening hours is somehow too much for you. My brain needs a couple of moments. I robotically worked ALL DAY. I’d like to think I’m entitled to a short break. If I chose to do that on DCUM, is that so bad? And yes, I put papers down ever 30 minutes at home for a breather, which is exactly what I tell my students to do so they can start work again refreshed after the break. Again… is that so bad?

Ask yourself why you feel the need to pick on a teacher. You made assumptions… like I even have the chance at work to TOUCH my phone. I’m responsible for 150 students. I don’t have time to go to the bathroom, much less scroll DCUM.

It’s so hard to be kind, apparently.

NP but you spend 11 hours a day in your classroom working, not even checking your cell phone once? I’m sorry that’s a choice and there are other teaching jobs out there that do not expect you to do that.

1. I’d need to have time to play on my phone. I don’t. My family knows to call the school’s main office if I’m needed at home.
2. I am expected to model the behaviors I expect of my students. Their phones aren’t allowed to be out, so why should mine?

Yes, I last 11 hours a day without my phone. It’s actually not that hard, especially when you’re distracted by 140 moving parts around you. (I’m aware some people with clearances manage to survive without theirs, as well.) Yes, it is my choice. I am good at my job, and this is one of the reasons why: I work hard and I expect the same from my students

As it stands, I’ll be a “former teacher” this summer. I don’t want this pressure anymore. And now I’m off to grade more.

I am a good teacher as well. I don’t work 11 hours a day and my children’s school can call my cell phone not the main office in an emergency. I am hopeful some time away from teaching will help you see how you can do this job with more work life balance.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here: I acknowledge that teachers feel overworked.

Heck, I’ll take it. I notice you used “feel” instead of “are,” but this is still one of the nicer things on this thread. Thank you!

-A teacher heading into hour 11 of work today. Just 2 more hours of grading to go. (So… a normal day.)

Maybe if you spent less time on DCUM…

Cute response. I am allowed to take a breather from grading every 3-4 essays, correct? I always tell my students to look up from studying every 30 minutes or so…

Well if you’re taking breaks every 30 minutes I’m really not surprised you’re pulling 11 hour + days. I certainly do not take breaks from work every 30 minutes. And I definitely am not scrolling DCUM (I don’t even have access to it).

Neither am I when I’m at work. That first 11 hours? In my classroom without my phone, which was in my closet. That’s where it resides all day every day. That time on DCUM? That was my first time checking personal accounts all day. I’m sorry if a few breaks during my evening hours is somehow too much for you. My brain needs a couple of moments. I robotically worked ALL DAY. I’d like to think I’m entitled to a short break. If I chose to do that on DCUM, is that so bad? And yes, I put papers down ever 30 minutes at home for a breather, which is exactly what I tell my students to do so they can start work again refreshed after the break. Again… is that so bad?

Ask yourself why you feel the need to pick on a teacher. You made assumptions… like I even have the chance at work to TOUCH my phone. I’m responsible for 150 students. I don’t have time to go to the bathroom, much less scroll DCUM.

It’s so hard to be kind, apparently.

NP but you spend 11 hours a day in your classroom working, not even checking your cell phone once? I’m sorry that’s a choice and there are other teaching jobs out there that do not expect you to do that.

1. I’d need to have time to play on my phone. I don’t. My family knows to call the school’s main office if I’m needed at home.
2. I am expected to model the behaviors I expect of my students. Their phones aren’t allowed to be out, so why should mine?

Yes, I last 11 hours a day without my phone. It’s actually not that hard, especially when you’re distracted by 140 moving parts around you. (I’m aware some people with clearances manage to survive without theirs, as well.) Yes, it is my choice. I am good at my job, and this is one of the reasons why: I work hard and I expect the same from my students

As it stands, I’ll be a “former teacher” this summer. I don’t want this pressure anymore. And now I’m off to grade more.

I'm a teacher and I leave my phone on my desk on vibrate. My family is important to me and as a single parent, I need my phone in case of an emergency with my kids. Students are students. They don't have the same responsibilities as their parents so they don't need phone access at school.

+1

This idea that teachers and students have the same behaviors at school is part of how teachers feel they aren’t treated as adults. I have completely different responsibilities from a child.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here: I acknowledge that teachers feel overworked.

Heck, I’ll take it. I notice you used “feel” instead of “are,” but this is still one of the nicer things on this thread. Thank you!

-A teacher heading into hour 11 of work today. Just 2 more hours of grading to go. (So… a normal day.)

Maybe if you spent less time on DCUM…

Cute response. I am allowed to take a breather from grading every 3-4 essays, correct? I always tell my students to look up from studying every 30 minutes or so…

Well if you’re taking breaks every 30 minutes I’m really not surprised you’re pulling 11 hour + days. I certainly do not take breaks from work every 30 minutes. And I definitely am not scrolling DCUM (I don’t even have access to it).

Neither am I when I’m at work. That first 11 hours? In my classroom without my phone, which was in my closet. That’s where it resides all day every day. That time on DCUM? That was my first time checking personal accounts all day. I’m sorry if a few breaks during my evening hours is somehow too much for you. My brain needs a couple of moments. I robotically worked ALL DAY. I’d like to think I’m entitled to a short break. If I chose to do that on DCUM, is that so bad? And yes, I put papers down ever 30 minutes at home for a breather, which is exactly what I tell my students to do so they can start work again refreshed after the break. Again… is that so bad?

Ask yourself why you feel the need to pick on a teacher. You made assumptions… like I even have the chance at work to TOUCH my phone. I’m responsible for 150 students. I don’t have time to go to the bathroom, much less scroll DCUM.

It’s so hard to be kind, apparently.

NP but you spend 11 hours a day in your classroom working, not even checking your cell phone once? I’m sorry that’s a choice and there are other teaching jobs out there that do not expect you to do that.

1. I’d need to have time to play on my phone. I don’t. My family knows to call the school’s main office if I’m needed at home.
2. I am expected to model the behaviors I expect of my students. Their phones aren’t allowed to be out, so why should mine?

Yes, I last 11 hours a day without my phone. It’s actually not that hard, especially when you’re distracted by 140 moving parts around you. (I’m aware some people with clearances manage to survive without theirs, as well.) Yes, it is my choice. I am good at my job, and this is one of the reasons why: I work hard and I expect the same from my students

As it stands, I’ll be a “former teacher” this summer. I don’t want this pressure anymore. And now I’m off to grade more.

I'm a teacher and I leave my phone on my desk on vibrate. My family is important to me and as a single parent, I need my phone in case of an emergency with my kids. Students are students. They don't have the same responsibilities as their parents so they don't need phone access at school.

+1

This idea that teachers and students have the same behaviors at school is part of how teachers feel they aren’t treated as adults. I have completely different responsibilities from a child.

Notably, the teacher said that was their own choice. The teacher put themself in the same category as the students; no one did that to her/him.

[Anonymous]

1. Everyone is overworked. It's the economy
2. Teaching is not that hard a job
3. Everyone is tired

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Teachers lost all credibility when they chose not to teach and sold the idea that it didn't really matter

They did teach. Their employers set the conditions of their employment, not you. Enjoy staying ignorant.

Most did not teach and did not oppose the teaching bans.


The profession is dead.

good parenting seems to be dead too.

Difference is, we don't pay parents $100k+ plus lifelong pensions for being good parents, do we?

Well at least you are admitting that parents don't parent thats a start.

Right? We should just take all those kids away from their parents. Put them in warehouses or something. Send them to work. Obviously they can't be educated, even by wonderful hardworking teachers.

Hmmm....odd take maybe parents could just start parenting again. That would be a good place to start.

But as we see on this board and from all of the teacher comments, parents aren't parenting. So your solution is just to shame them anonymously on an internet message board? You think that will accomplish anything? Get a spine.

[Anonymous]

Weird that some posters think the way to fix public schools is to shame educators. Almost like they have an agenda…

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:1. Everyone is overworked. It's the economy
2. Teaching is not that hard a job
3. Everyone is tired

Your #2 is exactly why this thread continues.

My job isn’t hard? Are you kidding? It isn’t even worth writing a minute-by-minute visual of what my work days are like. It isn’t worth telling you about the 3-4 hours each night AND the full weekend days that are spent planning and grading. What’s the point? You see my job as “easy.”

My own child’s school just lost its 7th teacher mid-year. My school, where I teach, has lost 5 already mid-year. I had to get a colleague out of her car the other day. She didn’t want to come into the building, and was contemplating quitting on the spot. A teacher I’m very close to revealed last week that he’s out this June. My department is anticipating turning over 1/3 of our 15 teachers because they are all burned out.

Sure. Our job is easy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here: I acknowledge that teachers feel overworked.

Heck, I’ll take it. I notice you used “feel” instead of “are,” but this is still one of the nicer things on this thread. Thank you!

-A teacher heading into hour 11 of work today. Just 2 more hours of grading to go. (So… a normal day.)

Maybe if you spent less time on DCUM…

Cute response. I am allowed to take a breather from grading every 3-4 essays, correct? I always tell my students to look up from studying every 30 minutes or so…

Well if you’re taking breaks every 30 minutes I’m really not surprised you’re pulling 11 hour + days. I certainly do not take breaks from work every 30 minutes. And I definitely am not scrolling DCUM (I don’t even have access to it).

Neither am I when I’m at work. That first 11 hours? In my classroom without my phone, which was in my closet. That’s where it resides all day every day. That time on DCUM? That was my first time checking personal accounts all day. I’m sorry if a few breaks during my evening hours is somehow too much for you. My brain needs a couple of moments. I robotically worked ALL DAY. I’d like to think I’m entitled to a short break. If I chose to do that on DCUM, is that so bad? And yes, I put papers down ever 30 minutes at home for a breather, which is exactly what I tell my students to do so they can start work again refreshed after the break. Again… is that so bad?

Ask yourself why you feel the need to pick on a teacher. You made assumptions… like I even have the chance at work to TOUCH my phone. I’m responsible for 150 students. I don’t have time to go to the bathroom, much less scroll DCUM.

It’s so hard to be kind, apparently.

NP but you spend 11 hours a day in your classroom working, not even checking your cell phone once? I’m sorry that’s a choice and there are other teaching jobs out there that do not expect you to do that.

1. I’d need to have time to play on my phone. I don’t. My family knows to call the school’s main office if I’m needed at home.
2. I am expected to model the behaviors I expect of my students. Their phones aren’t allowed to be out, so why should mine?

Yes, I last 11 hours a day without my phone. It’s actually not that hard, especially when you’re distracted by 140 moving parts around you. (I’m aware some people with clearances manage to survive without theirs, as well.) Yes, it is my choice. I am good at my job, and this is one of the reasons why: I work hard and I expect the same from my students

As it stands, I’ll be a “former teacher” this summer. I don’t want this pressure anymore. And now I’m off to grade more.

I'm a teacher and I leave my phone on my desk on vibrate. My family is important to me and as a single parent, I need my phone in case of an emergency with my kids. Students are students. They don't have the same responsibilities as their parents so they don't need phone access at school.

+1

This idea that teachers and students have the same behaviors at school is part of how teachers feel they aren’t treated as adults. I have completely different responsibilities from a child.

Notably, the teacher said that was their own choice. The teacher put themself in the same category as the students; no one did that to her/him.

NP and this is a fair point.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Teachers lost all credibility when they chose not to teach and sold the idea that it didn't really matter

They did teach. Their employers set the conditions of their employment, not you. Enjoy staying ignorant.

Most did not teach and did not oppose the teaching bans.


The profession is dead.

good parenting seems to be dead too.

Difference is, we don't pay parents $100k+ plus lifelong pensions for being good parents, do we?

Well at least you are admitting that parents don't parent thats a start.

Right? We should just take all those kids away from their parents. Put them in warehouses or something. Send them to work. Obviously they can't be educated, even by wonderful hardworking teachers.

Hmmm....odd take maybe parents could just start parenting again. That would be a good place to start.

But as we see on this board and from all of the teacher comments, parents aren't parenting. So your solution is just to shame them anonymously on an internet message board? You think that will accomplish anything? Get a spine.

Ahh ok and as we see on this site people come here to shame and blame teachers for everything. I bet all your big talk stays anonymous on DCMUM-am I right.