Why does no one acknowledge how overworked teachers are?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I had water damage in my basement and needed a total overhaul. the construction team has been here for a week and they arrive at 7am and leave at 6pm. They have ripped out carpet, drywall, a bathroom and have dealt with mold, tiling, carpet installation, fixing of stairs, etc...

They seem overworked and no one is posting about them?

They, uh shouldn’t be there that long.

Are they speaking another language?

Did your contractor hire out unskilled day laborers or immigrants who are too afraid of being deported to require the contractor to stick to labor laws?

I’m not sure I would point this out as an example of a good way to hire and keep workers under US labor laws….

This is totally normal for contractors and construction. Also your post is just gross. Why are you assuming construction workers don’t speak English and can’t stand up for themselves. Construction is WAY harder than teaching and WAY less appreciated. I know you’re going to have a hard time accepting that, but it’s true.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Here: I acknowledge that teachers feel overworked.

Heck, I’ll take it. I notice you used “feel” instead of “are,” but this is still one of the nicer things on this thread. Thank you!

-A teacher heading into hour 11 of work today. Just 2 more hours of grading to go. (So… a normal day.)

Maybe if you spent less time on DCUM…

Cute response. I am allowed to take a breather from grading every 3-4 essays, correct? I always tell my students to look up from studying every 30 minutes or so…

Well if you’re taking breaks every 30 minutes I’m really not surprised you’re pulling 11 hour + days. I certainly do not take breaks from work every 30 minutes. And I definitely am not scrolling DCUM (I don’t even have access to it).

Neither am I when I’m at work. That first 11 hours? In my classroom without my phone, which was in my closet. That’s where it resides all day every day. That time on DCUM? That was my first time checking personal accounts all day. I’m sorry if a few breaks during my evening hours is somehow too much for you. My brain needs a couple of moments. I robotically worked ALL DAY. I’d like to think I’m entitled to a short break. If I chose to do that on DCUM, is that so bad? And yes, I put papers down ever 30 minutes at home for a breather, which is exactly what I tell my students to do so they can start work again refreshed after the break. Again… is that so bad?

Ask yourself why you feel the need to pick on a teacher. You made assumptions… like I even have the chance at work to TOUCH my phone. I’m responsible for 150 students. I don’t have time to go to the bathroom, much less scroll DCUM.

It’s so hard to be kind, apparently.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here: I acknowledge that teachers feel overworked.

Heck, I’ll take it. I notice you used “feel” instead of “are,” but this is still one of the nicer things on this thread. Thank you!

-A teacher heading into hour 11 of work today. Just 2 more hours of grading to go. (So… a normal day.)

Give it a rest and see the multiple pages of people acknowledging your feelings.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I had water damage in my basement and needed a total overhaul. the construction team has been here for a week and they arrive at 7am and leave at 6pm. They have ripped out carpet, drywall, a bathroom and have dealt with mold, tiling, carpet installation, fixing of stairs, etc...

They seem overworked and no one is posting about them?

They, uh shouldn’t be there that long.

Are they speaking another language?

Did your contractor hire out unskilled day laborers or immigrants who are too afraid of being deported to require the contractor to stick to labor laws?

I’m not sure I would point this out as an example of a good way to hire and keep workers under US labor laws….

Effing yikes are you a teacher taking a dump on construction workers? See this is one of the reasons this thread keeps going on and on. Are you trolling to make teachers look bad at this point? Were you the same teacher saying you have it harder than nurses?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Teachers lost all credibility when they chose not to teach and sold the idea that it didn't really matter

They did teach. Their employers set the conditions of their employment, not you. Enjoy staying ignorant.

Most did not teach and did not oppose the teaching bans.


The profession is dead.

good parenting seems to be dead too.

Difference is, we don't pay parents $100k+ plus lifelong pensions for being good parents, do we?

Well at least you are admitting that parents don't parent thats a start.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here: I acknowledge that teachers feel overworked.

Heck, I’ll take it. I notice you used “feel” instead of “are,” but this is still one of the nicer things on this thread. Thank you!

-A teacher heading into hour 11 of work today. Just 2 more hours of grading to go. (So… a normal day.)

Give it a rest and see the multiple pages of people acknowledging your feelings.

Yes back at ya parents maybe stop complaining for pages and pages.....see how that works. No one complains more than parents about everything.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here: I acknowledge that teachers feel overworked.

Heck, I’ll take it. I notice you used “feel” instead of “are,” but this is still one of the nicer things on this thread. Thank you!

-A teacher heading into hour 11 of work today. Just 2 more hours of grading to go. (So… a normal day.)

Give it a rest and see the multiple pages of people acknowledging your feelings.

Yes back at ya parents maybe stop complaining for pages and pages.....see how that works. No one complains more than parents about everything.

Lady, go back to grading papers. These posts are not doing you any favors.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here: I acknowledge that teachers feel overworked.

Heck, I’ll take it. I notice you used “feel” instead of “are,” but this is still one of the nicer things on this thread. Thank you!

-A teacher heading into hour 11 of work today. Just 2 more hours of grading to go. (So… a normal day.)

Give it a rest and see the multiple pages of people acknowledging your feelings.

Yes back at ya parents maybe stop complaining for pages and pages.....see how that works. No one complains more than parents about everything.

Lady, go back to grading papers. These posts are not doing you any favors.

Your posts are not helping you either lady-btw I'm a different poster

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here: I acknowledge that teachers feel overworked.

Heck, I’ll take it. I notice you used “feel” instead of “are,” but this is still one of the nicer things on this thread. Thank you!

-A teacher heading into hour 11 of work today. Just 2 more hours of grading to go. (So… a normal day.)

Give it a rest and see the multiple pages of people acknowledging your feelings.

Yes back at ya parents maybe stop complaining for pages and pages.....see how that works. No one complains more than parents about everything.

Lady, go back to grading papers. These posts are not doing you any favors.

Your posts are not helping you either lady-btw I'm a different poster

No one is complaining except for you. Just let this dumb thread die.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Teachers lost all credibility when they chose not to teach and sold the idea that it didn't really matter

They did teach. Their employers set the conditions of their employment, not you. Enjoy staying ignorant.

Most did not teach and did not oppose the teaching bans.


The profession is dead.

good parenting seems to be dead too.

Difference is, we don't pay parents $100k+ plus lifelong pensions for being good parents, do we?

Well at least you are admitting that parents don't parent thats a start.

Right? We should just take all those kids away from their parents. Put them in warehouses or something. Send them to work. Obviously they can't be educated, even by wonderful hardworking teachers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I had water damage in my basement and needed a total overhaul. the construction team has been here for a week and they arrive at 7am and leave at 6pm. They have ripped out carpet, drywall, a bathroom and have dealt with mold, tiling, carpet installation, fixing of stairs, etc...

They seem overworked and no one is posting about them?

They, uh shouldn’t be there that long.

Are they speaking another language?

Did your contractor hire out unskilled day laborers or immigrants who are too afraid of being deported to require the contractor to stick to labor laws?

I’m not sure I would point this out as an example of a good way to hire and keep workers under US labor laws….

Effing yikes are you a teacher taking a dump on construction workers? See this is one of the reasons this thread keeps going on and on. Are you trolling to make teachers look bad at this point? Were you the same teacher saying you have it harder than nurses?

Effing yikes- the previous person was taking a dump on construction workers by highlight labor practices that should
Not be happening when you hire a reputable general contractor.

I’m highlighting their a-holic ness at
Pointing out that this horrible practice is “work ethic” teachers should follow because they “aren’t complaining” who does that?

Maybe you didn’t read what the PP posted.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I had water damage in my basement and needed a total overhaul. the construction team has been here for a week and they arrive at 7am and leave at 6pm. They have ripped out carpet, drywall, a bathroom and have dealt with mold, tiling, carpet installation, fixing of stairs, etc...

They seem overworked and no one is posting about them?

They, uh shouldn’t be there that long.

Are they speaking another language?

Did your contractor hire out unskilled day laborers or immigrants who are too afraid of being deported to require the contractor to stick to labor laws?

I’m not sure I would point this out as an example of a good way to hire and keep workers under US labor laws….

This is totally normal for contractors and construction. Also your post is just gross. Why are you assuming construction workers don’t speak English and can’t stand up for themselves. Construction is WAY harder than teaching and WAY less appreciated. I know you’re going to have a hard time accepting that, but it’s true.

No it isn’t normal . Or maybe our contractor was just really good about not having their workers work
Overtime. A work day shouldn’t be 7-6 7-4 is normal for construction not 7-6.
And yes construction workers can be taken advantage of.
Construction is not harder than teaching. Different but not harder.

I never said I assume they didn’t speak English. That is why I asked. I would assume that a contractor who was overworking his/her employees was taking advantage of them and that those who are don’t speak English are more likely to work for someone who takes advantage of them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I had water damage in my basement and needed a total overhaul. the construction team has been here for a week and they arrive at 7am and leave at 6pm. They have ripped out carpet, drywall, a bathroom and have dealt with mold, tiling, carpet installation, fixing of stairs, etc...

They seem overworked and no one is posting about them?

They, uh shouldn’t be there that long.

Are they speaking another language?

Did your contractor hire out unskilled day laborers or immigrants who are too afraid of being deported to require the contractor to stick to labor laws?

I’m not sure I would point this out as an example of a good way to hire and keep workers under US labor laws….

This is totally normal for contractors and construction. Also your post is just gross. Why are you assuming construction workers don’t speak English and can’t stand up for themselves. Construction is WAY harder than teaching and WAY less appreciated. I know you’re going to have a hard time accepting that, but it’s true.

No it isn’t normal . Or maybe our contractor was just really good about not having their workers work
Overtime. A work day shouldn’t be 7-6 7-4 is normal for construction not 7-6.
And yes construction workers can be taken advantage of.
Construction is not harder than teaching. Different but not harder.

I never said I assume they didn’t speak English. That is why I asked. I would assume that a contractor who was overworking his/her employees was taking advantage of them and that those who are don’t speak English are more likely to work for someone who takes advantage of them.

The point is that you (or others like you in this thread) need to be absolutely the bottom of the overworked barrel, at all times, full-stop period. I really really hope it's just you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm a GS-15 fed. Ph.D. social scientists with 8 years experience make less as a GS-9 at my federal agency than a first year teach with a BA and a license at my son's school. The first several years I was in a "prestigious" fellowship after grad school, I lived in subsidized public housing and had two additional jobs, one under the table as a personal assistant so I could pay my student loans and another job at night and on weekends working in public health outreach (think going to gay clubs and handing out condoms and giving HS students at a HS clinic pregnancy and STI tests). Everyone thought I "made" it and I was living in a closet in my grad school's studio apartment in Columbia Heights.

My mom, brother and several other family members are teachers. With the exception of my mom who worked nights and weekends as a manager at KMart, no one else had a second job or was considered underpaid where we lived. And they get paid a lot less than DMV teachers and my mom has a highly skilled, highly sought after specialty and two masters degrees and national board certification as a teacher.

My guess is that they lived in an area with a much lower cost of living because nearly every young MCPS teacher I know and a lot of veterans have second jobs or frequent side hustles. Most can’t afford to live in MoCo if they want to buy a house. Commuting from another county when you have evening chaperone responsibilities like plays or concerts, Open House, or BTSN night and still have to be at work early the next day sucks. All of those events should be on Fridays so that teachers have the next day to recover a bit.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm a GS-15 fed. Ph.D. social scientists with 8 years experience make less as a GS-9 at my federal agency than a first year teach with a BA and a license at my son's school. The first several years I was in a "prestigious" fellowship after grad school, I lived in subsidized public housing and had two additional jobs, one under the table as a personal assistant so I could pay my student loans and another job at night and on weekends working in public health outreach (think going to gay clubs and handing out condoms and giving HS students at a HS clinic pregnancy and STI tests). Everyone thought I "made" it and I was living in a closet in my grad school's studio apartment in Columbia Heights.

My mom, brother and several other family members are teachers. With the exception of my mom who worked nights and weekends as a manager at KMart, no one else had a second job or was considered underpaid where we lived. And they get paid a lot less than DMV teachers and my mom has a highly skilled, highly sought after specialty and two masters degrees and national board certification as a teacher.

My guess is that they lived in an area with a much lower cost of living because nearly every young MCPS teacher I know and a lot of veterans have second jobs or frequent side hustles. Most can’t afford to live in MoCo if they want to buy a house. Commuting from another county when you have evening chaperone responsibilities like plays or concerts, Open House, or BTSN night and still have to be at work early the next day sucks. All of those events should be on Fridays so that teachers have the next day to recover a bit.

I’m a teacher and I have to have a second job to afford living in this area. I leave school within 15-20 after dismissal four days a week to work a second shift.