FCPS Boundary Review Updates

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Who did a better job, this FCPS student or Thru:

https://storymaps.arcgis.com/stories/419993bef8434a8391287a73c6956837

Fairly certain they didn’t take into account capacity at any school. Some look wildly over capacity now and others waaaaaay under. Sloppy

My take is this is Reid trolling under the cover of promoting student work. It’s in her weekly reflections right after the latest on upcoming boundary review feedback sessions. You can almost hear her saying “even our students see the issue on the Loudoun County border.” Using student work to troll the people who pay her $500k a year to wreck their kids’ education. The arrogance and condescension is a bit much sometimes.

Well, I think it will make one seriously complaining neighborhood extremely happy. But, it doesn't make sense to me, but I am not familiar with some of the areas on the other side of the county.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Who did a better job, this FCPS student or Thru:

https://storymaps.arcgis.com/stories/419993bef8434a8391287a73c6956837

Fairly certain they didn’t take into account capacity at any school. Some look wildly over capacity now and others waaaaaay under. Sloppy

My take is this is Reid trolling under the cover of promoting student work. It’s in her weekly reflections right after the latest on upcoming boundary review feedback sessions. You can almost hear her saying “even our students see the issue on the Loudoun County border.” Using student work to troll the people who pay her $500k a year to wreck their kids’ education. The arrogance and condescension is a bit much sometimes.

I don't think Fairfax is correct on student map. I may be mistaken, but I think student put some of Fairfax City in Woodson.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Who did a better job, this FCPS student or Thru:

https://storymaps.arcgis.com/stories/419993bef8434a8391287a73c6956837

Good effort, but I do see some problems--similar to THRU.
Splits my neighborhood and elementary school cohort.

Question: did student base the new boundary suggestion on projected enrollment?

It switches a lot of neighborhoods in my area pretty dramatically and I'm not sure the distance correlates with time/traffic.
Did student also do elementary schools and middle schools?

It looked to me like she just did “physically closest school” but didn’t account for capacity. Some of the schools are larger than others and can have larger enrollments. There were also some anomalies, like a piece of Springfield going to Hayfield.

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Anyway, now we saw a map that was actually much worse than the BRAC or Thru maps!

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It’s not about distance - it takes 8 minutes from our community to get to jackson ms and 9 minutes to get to Longfellow. It’s basically the same so why we need to disrupt kids in middle/high school for that is not clear and more important not consistent with the non-changes that were made in other parts of the county with significant differences in commute time.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Who did a better job, this FCPS student or Thru:

https://storymaps.arcgis.com/stories/419993bef8434a8391287a73c6956837

The irony of a distance map moving western Langley to Herndon…

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It’s not about distance - it takes 8 minutes from our community to get to jackson ms and 9 minutes to get to Longfellow. It’s basically the same so why we need to disrupt kids in middle/high school for that is not clear and more important not consistent with the non-changes that were made in other parts of the county with significant differences in commute time.

Sorry you’re going through this and are going to get redistricted but next time don’t vote for people like Karl Frisch and Robyn Lady. The Democrats hate your pyramid and you keep electing them anyway.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Who did a better job, this FCPS student or Thru:

https://storymaps.arcgis.com/stories/419993bef8434a8391287a73c6956837

The irony of a distance map moving western Langley to Herndon…

That’s what happens when you only look at as the crow flys distance. Of course, transportation is way more nuanced than that. Not to crap on the students work, it’s impressive she learned the software.

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Well, the student's map takes some kids at my high school and sends them further away. So, i wonder what was used for distance.

I see one neighborhood that has never been at our high school and is further away than our neighborhood high school (they'd have to go past our neighborhood to get there). Wonder if that was the agenda with this? It is a comparable neighborhood in socioeconomic points and some have been lobbying to get there.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Who did a better job, this FCPS student or Thru:

https://storymaps.arcgis.com/stories/419993bef8434a8391287a73c6956837

The irony of a distance map moving western Langley to Herndon…

Yeah but it moved both forestville and great falls (which parts of are further away than forestville kids). If they are just looking at distance and not accounting for the 300 kids who pupil place and another 700-800 from great falls Herndon would be insanely overcrowded. The middle school even more. Distance is not a good factor in any of this

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Anonymous wrote:Poplar Heights and Donna Lee Gardens should be lobbying to move to Shrevewood in place of the apartments off Hollywood Rd. This would eliminate the risk of Shrevewood becoming an over capacity Title I school. They’d also be guaranteed their consolation pyramid (Kilmer/Marshall) and they’d physically share a border with the McLean HS boundary should the Shrevewood split feeder proposal stick.

So basically, consolidate all the poor kids at Timber Lane?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why isn’t that Pine Spring attendance island moving to Graham Road rather than Westlawn? Graham Road would have capacity and no one would have to cross Route 50.

Graham Road is basically going to be a brand new school.

I also wonder why this is. I’m curious if this island kicked and screamed so much about the potential of going to Graham Road that they then ended up with this?

I think the problem is more they did not kick and scream so Thru just moved them wherever. Or more likely Thru just doesn’t understand the neighborhood and how little it makes sense.

I don’t think they’ve been kicking and screaming, but most families I know prefer to stay at Pine Spring. That said, most also think Graham Rd would be a better alternative than crossing Rte 50 for Westlawn.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Poplar Heights and Donna Lee Gardens should be lobbying to move to Shrevewood in place of the apartments off Hollywood Rd. This would eliminate the risk of Shrevewood becoming an over capacity Title I school. They’d also be guaranteed their consolation pyramid (Kilmer/Marshall) and they’d physically share a border with the McLean HS boundary should the Shrevewood split feeder proposal stick.

So basically, consolidate all the poor kids at Timber Lane?

I get what you’re saying, but they’ve got three bad options for balancing capacity of multiple Title I schools through Shrevewood.

Option 1 (current proposal): move the two Hollywood Rd SPAs to Shrevewood. Shrevewood either becomes a Title I school and its capacity contracts, pushing it to 120+% capacity. Or Shrevewood ends up on the cusp of Title I status without any of the services to support their students.

Option 2: move one SPA from Hollywood Rd and one from Poplar Heights, splitting two communities in the process, but maintaining capacity balance.

Option 3: move Poplar Heights and Donna Lee Garden SPAs to Shrevewood, which would concentrate the FARM rate at Timber Lane while Shrevewood maintained its existing program capacity.

FCPS has to look at the numbers carefully, because the worst thing that could come from this is to have another Coates/Parklawn situation form.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It’s not about distance - it takes 8 minutes from our community to get to jackson ms and 9 minutes to get to Longfellow. It’s basically the same so why we need to disrupt kids in middle/high school for that is not clear and more important not consistent with the non-changes that were made in other parts of the county with significant differences in commute time.

So you’d be fine with your kids going to Longfellow and then Falls Church HS? Because FCHS is half the distance to McLean.

RE: other parts of the county - Langley isn’t overcrowded. If it was, those kids would likely be headed to Herndon.

Honestly, they be should phasing in all changes by cohort so current HS and MS’ers can finish at the school they attend. Maybe upper elementary too.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Poplar Heights and Donna Lee Gardens should be lobbying to move to Shrevewood in place of the apartments off Hollywood Rd. This would eliminate the risk of Shrevewood becoming an over capacity Title I school. They’d also be guaranteed their consolation pyramid (Kilmer/Marshall) and they’d physically share a border with the McLean HS boundary should the Shrevewood split feeder proposal stick.

So basically, consolidate all the poor kids at Timber Lane?

I get what you’re saying, but they’ve got three bad options for balancing capacity of multiple Title I schools through Shrevewood.

Option 1 (current proposal): move the two Hollywood Rd SPAs to Shrevewood. Shrevewood either becomes a Title I school and its capacity contracts, pushing it to 120+% capacity. Or Shrevewood ends up on the cusp of Title I status without any of the services to support their students.

Option 2: move one SPA from Hollywood Rd and one from Poplar Heights, splitting two communities in the process, but maintaining capacity balance.

Option 3: move Poplar Heights and Donna Lee Garden SPAs to Shrevewood, which would concentrate the FARM rate at Timber Lane while Shrevewood maintained its existing program capacity.

FCPS has to look at the numbers carefully, because the worst thing that could come from this is to have another Coates/Parklawn situation form.

Option 1 is fine. They will move kids out of Shrevewood when Dunn Loring is built.

Option 2 is also feasible. They can move Poplar Heights but not Donna Lee Gardens, and they can move the complexes off Lee Landing Dr. but not Savannah Street. They are different complexes.

Option 3 is a ridiculous idea unless you want to drive every MC/UMC family left at Timber Lane out of that school.

They aren’t going to have a Coates/Parklawn situation there.