student admissions and TJ lawsuit

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Anonymous wrote:Yes, bringing up racist tropes while discussing the accessibility of STEM programs is hilarious.

Yes, I see this all the time in the TJ threads. I have tried to point it out when it happens. Somebody thinks it’s very clever to refer to basketball/sneakers when we’re discussing fairness in the TJ application process.

Only racists see it that way.

Rest of us understand that different families have different priorities, some spend on basketball and others on academic enrichment, and few others like us on both.

Do only "racists" think this comment is racist?

"The AP test industry is unethical, keeps stolen past exam questions compiled as practice tests out of reach of many potential and capable students. Instead of listing these products under sports category right next to basketball shoes, they created a separate category called Books. Imagine the outrageous difficulty that puts for underrepresented minorities (except asian americans) to reach these products."

How many racist posts have made calling Asian American students preppers and test buyers?

There are many hundreds of racist posts that refer to brilliant hardworking asian american students as test buyers.
Just this AAP section alone has 73222 results

https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/jforum.page?module=search&action=search&search_forum=60&match_type=all&sort_by=time&search_keywords=test+buying

Disturbing. How the heck can one person post so many racist messages? Hatred is a mental health disease

Every mental health problem can be treated, but the individual has to acknowledge the problem, and be open for treatment.

Is it only one person who is posting these basketball comments? How can you tell?

I have been seeing these hateful basketball comments for years now, posted many, many times. It’s surprising that it’s only one person who appears to have the mental health disease of hatred of others.

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Anonymous wrote:Yes, bringing up racist tropes while discussing the accessibility of STEM programs is hilarious.

Yes, I see this all the time in the TJ threads. I have tried to point it out when it happens. Somebody thinks it’s very clever to refer to basketball/sneakers when we’re discussing fairness in the TJ application process.

Only racists see it that way.

Rest of us understand that different families have different priorities, some spend on basketball and others on academic enrichment, and few others like us on both.

Do only "racists" think this comment is racist?

"The AP test industry is unethical, keeps stolen past exam questions compiled as practice tests out of reach of many potential and capable students. Instead of listing these products under sports category right next to basketball shoes, they created a separate category called Books. Imagine the outrageous difficulty that puts for underrepresented minorities (except asian americans) to reach these products."

How many racist posts have made calling Asian American students preppers and test buyers?

There are many hundreds of racist posts that refer to brilliant hardworking asian american students as test buyers.
Just this AAP section alone has 73222 results

https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/jforum.page?module=search&action=search&search_forum=60&match_type=all&sort_by=time&search_keywords=test+buying

Disturbing. How the heck can one person post so many racist messages? Hatred is a mental health disease

Every mental health problem can be treated, but the individual has to acknowledge the problem, and be open for treatment.

search for "test buy" reveals even more results with racist posts, and poster slyly uses "wealthy parents" to mean "asian american", even though most are from lower middle class.
https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/jforum.page?module=search&action=search&search_forum=60&match_type=all&sort_by=time&search_keywords=test+buy

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Anonymous wrote:Yes, bringing up racist tropes while discussing the accessibility of STEM programs is hilarious.

Yes, I see this all the time in the TJ threads. I have tried to point it out when it happens. Somebody thinks it’s very clever to refer to basketball/sneakers when we’re discussing fairness in the TJ application process.

Only racists see it that way.

Rest of us understand that different families have different priorities, some spend on basketball and others on academic enrichment, and few others like us on both.

Do only "racists" think this comment is racist?

"The AP test industry is unethical, keeps stolen past exam questions compiled as practice tests out of reach of many potential and capable students. Instead of listing these products under sports category right next to basketball shoes, they created a separate category called Books. Imagine the outrageous difficulty that puts for underrepresented minorities (except asian americans) to reach these products."

How many racist posts have made calling Asian American students preppers and test buyers?

There are many hundreds of racist posts that refer to brilliant hardworking asian american students as test buyers.
Just this AAP section alone has 73222 results

https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/jforum.page?module=search&action=search&search_forum=60&match_type=all&sort_by=time&search_keywords=test+buying

Disturbing. How the heck can one person post so many racist messages? Hatred is a mental health disease

Every mental health problem can be treated, but the individual has to acknowledge the problem, and be open for treatment.

Is it only one person who is posting these basketball comments? How can you tell?

I have been seeing these hateful basketball comments for years now, posted many, many times. It’s surprising that it’s only one person who appears to have the mental health disease of hatred of others.

They seem to always try to create some false equivalence with sports.

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Anonymous wrote:Yes, bringing up racist tropes while discussing the accessibility of STEM programs is hilarious.

Yes, I see this all the time in the TJ threads. I have tried to point it out when it happens. Somebody thinks it’s very clever to refer to basketball/sneakers when we’re discussing fairness in the TJ application process.

Only racists see it that way.

Rest of us understand that different families have different priorities, some spend on basketball and others on academic enrichment, and few others like us on both.

Do only "racists" think this comment is racist?

"The AP test industry is unethical, keeps stolen past exam questions compiled as practice tests out of reach of many potential and capable students. Instead of listing these products under sports category right next to basketball shoes, they created a separate category called Books. Imagine the outrageous difficulty that puts for underrepresented minorities (except asian americans) to reach these products."

How many racist posts have made calling Asian American students preppers and test buyers?

There are many hundreds of racist posts that refer to brilliant hardworking asian american students as test buyers.
Just this AAP section alone has 73222 results

https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/jforum.page?module=search&action=search&search_forum=60&match_type=all&sort_by=time&search_keywords=test+buying

Disturbing. How the heck can one person post so many racist messages? Hatred is a mental health disease

Every mental health problem can be treated, but the individual has to acknowledge the problem, and be open for treatment.

search for "test buy" reveals even more results with racist posts, and poster slyly uses "wealthy parents" to mean "asian american", even though most are from lower middle class.
https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/jforum.page?module=search&action=search&search_forum=60&match_type=all&sort_by=time&search_keywords=test+buy

I think you are imagining this. The old system did favor a handful of wealthy schools where outside prep was commonplace. The new system gives all residents a fair shot.

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Anonymous wrote:Basketball achievements are pride of NoVa students. It must be talked about and celebrated just like academic TJ student accomplishments. Both require hardwork from student and family resources.

I agree we need to respect and appreciate student efforts based on their own interests, instead of forcing them to change those interests and see them struggle.

I coach basketball in our recreational league, and my DC in AAP may someday apply to get into TJ. I can imagine the hardwork students put in to prepare for a successful TJ experience, if admitted. Similar to academic preparation in middle school, basketball also takes a lot of effort if not more in terms of player's personal commitment and family resources towards league fees, training classes, tournament fees, sports gear, etc. Nothing is free, everything needs to be paid for and valuable time needs to be invested. Behind every successful student player is their entire family supporting them.

Thank you for your volunteering as a basketball coach. Our league always has more teams than available coaches.

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Anonymous wrote:Yes, bringing up racist tropes while discussing the accessibility of STEM programs is hilarious.

Yes, I see this all the time in the TJ threads. I have tried to point it out when it happens. Somebody thinks it’s very clever to refer to basketball/sneakers when we’re discussing fairness in the TJ application process.

Only racists see it that way.

Rest of us understand that different families have different priorities, some spend on basketball and others on academic enrichment, and few others like us on both.

Do only "racists" think this comment is racist?

"The AP test industry is unethical, keeps stolen past exam questions compiled as practice tests out of reach of many potential and capable students. Instead of listing these products under sports category right next to basketball shoes, they created a separate category called Books. Imagine the outrageous difficulty that puts for underrepresented minorities (except asian americans) to reach these products."

How many racist posts have made calling Asian American students preppers and test buyers?

There are many hundreds of racist posts that refer to brilliant hardworking asian american students as test buyers.
Just this AAP section alone has 73222 results

https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/jforum.page?module=search&action=search&search_forum=60&match_type=all&sort_by=time&search_keywords=test+buying

Disturbing. How the heck can one person post so many racist messages? Hatred is a mental health disease

Every mental health problem can be treated, but the individual has to acknowledge the problem, and be open for treatment.

search for "test buy" reveals even more results with racist posts, and poster slyly uses "wealthy parents" to mean "asian american", even though most are from lower middle class.
https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/jforum.page?module=search&action=search&search_forum=60&match_type=all&sort_by=time&search_keywords=test+buy

I think you are imagining this. The old system did favor a handful of wealthy schools where outside prep was commonplace. The new system gives all residents a fair shot.

Are you the one who posted these racist test buy messages? You are brainwashed into thinking that. The old system was merit based and racially blind. The new system does racial balancing.

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I think the real problem is that URMs have underperformed at just about every turn in this social experiment.

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Anonymous wrote:Yes, bringing up racist tropes while discussing the accessibility of STEM programs is hilarious.

Yes, I see this all the time in the TJ threads. I have tried to point it out when it happens. Somebody thinks it’s very clever to refer to basketball/sneakers when we’re discussing fairness in the TJ application process.

Only racists see it that way.

Rest of us understand that different families have different priorities, some spend on basketball and others on academic enrichment, and few others like us on both.

Do only "racists" think this comment is racist?

"The AP test industry is unethical, keeps stolen past exam questions compiled as practice tests out of reach of many potential and capable students. Instead of listing these products under sports category right next to basketball shoes, they created a separate category called Books. Imagine the outrageous difficulty that puts for underrepresented minorities (except asian americans) to reach these products."

How many racist posts have made calling Asian American students preppers and test buyers?

There are many hundreds of racist posts that refer to brilliant hardworking asian american students as test buyers.
Just this AAP section alone has 73222 results

https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/jforum.page?module=search&action=search&search_forum=60&match_type=all&sort_by=time&search_keywords=test+buying

Disturbing. How the heck can one person post so many racist messages? Hatred is a mental health disease

Every mental health problem can be treated, but the individual has to acknowledge the problem, and be open for treatment.

search for "test buy" reveals even more results with racist posts, and poster slyly uses "wealthy parents" to mean "asian american", even though most are from lower middle class.
https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/jforum.page?module=search&action=search&search_forum=60&match_type=all&sort_by=time&search_keywords=test+buy

I think you are imagining this. The old system did favor a handful of wealthy schools where outside prep was commonplace. The new system gives all residents a fair shot.

Are you the one who posted these racist test buy messages? You are brainwashed into thinking that. The old system was merit based and racially blind. The new system does racial balancing.

Hmm, I wonder who the “brainwashed” person is here…

Spoiler alert: it is not the person who wants all residents to have a fair shot, no matter how educated or well-off the family they happen to be born into is.

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Anonymous wrote:Yes, bringing up racist tropes while discussing the accessibility of STEM programs is hilarious.

Yes, I see this all the time in the TJ threads. I have tried to point it out when it happens. Somebody thinks it’s very clever to refer to basketball/sneakers when we’re discussing fairness in the TJ application process.

Only racists see it that way.

Rest of us understand that different families have different priorities, some spend on basketball and others on academic enrichment, and few others like us on both.

Do only "racists" think this comment is racist?

"The AP test industry is unethical, keeps stolen past exam questions compiled as practice tests out of reach of many potential and capable students. Instead of listing these products under sports category right next to basketball shoes, they created a separate category called Books. Imagine the outrageous difficulty that puts for underrepresented minorities (except asian americans) to reach these products."

How many racist posts have made calling Asian American students preppers and test buyers?

There are many hundreds of racist posts that refer to brilliant hardworking asian american students as test buyers.
Just this AAP section alone has 73222 results

https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/jforum.page?module=search&action=search&search_forum=60&match_type=all&sort_by=time&search_keywords=test+buying

Disturbing. How the heck can one person post so many racist messages? Hatred is a mental health disease

Every mental health problem can be treated, but the individual has to acknowledge the problem, and be open for treatment.

Is it only one person who is posting these basketball comments? How can you tell?

I have been seeing these hateful basketball comments for years now, posted many, many times. It’s surprising that it’s only one person who appears to have the mental health disease of hatred of others.

I’m hoping it’s just one person.

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Anonymous wrote:Yes, bringing up racist tropes while discussing the accessibility of STEM programs is hilarious.

Yes, I see this all the time in the TJ threads. I have tried to point it out when it happens. Somebody thinks it’s very clever to refer to basketball/sneakers when we’re discussing fairness in the TJ application process.

Only racists see it that way.

Rest of us understand that different families have different priorities, some spend on basketball and others on academic enrichment, and few others like us on both.

Do only "racists" think this comment is racist?

"The AP test industry is unethical, keeps stolen past exam questions compiled as practice tests out of reach of many potential and capable students. Instead of listing these products under sports category right next to basketball shoes, they created a separate category called Books. Imagine the outrageous difficulty that puts for underrepresented minorities (except asian americans) to reach these products."

How many racist posts have made calling Asian American students preppers and test buyers?

There are many hundreds of racist posts that refer to brilliant hardworking asian american students as test buyers.
Just this AAP section alone has 73222 results

https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/jforum.page?module=search&action=search&search_forum=60&match_type=all&sort_by=time&search_keywords=test+buying

Disturbing. How the heck can one person post so many racist messages? Hatred is a mental health disease

Every mental health problem can be treated, but the individual has to acknowledge the problem, and be open for treatment.

search for "test buy" reveals even more results with racist posts, and poster slyly uses "wealthy parents" to mean "asian american", even though most are from lower middle class.
https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/jforum.page?module=search&action=search&search_forum=60&match_type=all&sort_by=time&search_keywords=test+buy

I think you are imagining this. The old system did favor a handful of wealthy schools where outside prep was commonplace. The new system gives all residents a fair shot.

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Anonymous wrote:Yes, bringing up racist tropes while discussing the accessibility of STEM programs is hilarious.

Yes, I see this all the time in the TJ threads. I have tried to point it out when it happens. Somebody thinks it’s very clever to refer to basketball/sneakers when we’re discussing fairness in the TJ application process.

Only racists see it that way.

Rest of us understand that different families have different priorities, some spend on basketball and others on academic enrichment, and few others like us on both.

Do only "racists" think this comment is racist?

"The AP test industry is unethical, keeps stolen past exam questions compiled as practice tests out of reach of many potential and capable students. Instead of listing these products under sports category right next to basketball shoes, they created a separate category called Books. Imagine the outrageous difficulty that puts for underrepresented minorities (except asian americans) to reach these products."

How many racist posts have made calling Asian American students preppers and test buyers?

There are many hundreds of racist posts that refer to brilliant hardworking asian american students as test buyers.
Just this AAP section alone has 73222 results

https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/jforum.page?module=search&action=search&search_forum=60&match_type=all&sort_by=time&search_keywords=test+buying

Disturbing. How the heck can one person post so many racist messages? Hatred is a mental health disease

Every mental health problem can be treated, but the individual has to acknowledge the problem, and be open for treatment.

search for "test buy" reveals even more results with racist posts, and poster slyly uses "wealthy parents" to mean "asian american", even though most are from lower middle class.
https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/jforum.page?module=search&action=search&search_forum=60&match_type=all&sort_by=time&search_keywords=test+buy

Citation?

Because looking at the hoards of kids who were coming from wealthy MSs before the change I find this hard to believe.

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And were low MS families really shelling out thousands of dollars for expensive prep? I find that hard to believe. Seems like mostly an UMC thing.

One thing to note is that the group that benefited the most to the admissions change was low-income Asian students.

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Anonymous wrote:Basketball achievements are pride of NoVa students. It must be talked about and celebrated just like academic TJ student accomplishments. Both require hardwork from student and family resources.

I agree we need to respect and appreciate student efforts based on their own interests, instead of forcing them to change those interests and see them struggle.

So the kids who are interested in TJ - the ones who apply - should be respected and appreciated.

That means you should stop throwing out racist comments.

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Anonymous wrote:I think the previous quote is inappropriate given the context PP is trying to harp on here.

But the selective outrage gives them little credit as the claims of "test-buying" Asians are absolutely overflowing these threads. PP doesn't seem to be going around each of those and commenting on those.

I've reported many of the obvious anti-Asian comments. And, from what I've seen, most of the "test buying" comments are directed at affluent families, not Asian families.

Sure. Maybe. Point is no one knows whereas with these comments, you have made a relatively performative attempt to highlight them, hence the selective outrage comment. And in most cases, people will ignore your outrage as disingenuous no matter how many "Ive reported many" statements you make... and now seemingly conflating and explaining away "most."

More deflection. The comment I've reposted is truly terrible and deserves to be called out.

Do you believe that it's offensive?

“ The AP test industry is unethical, keeps stolen past exam questions compiled as practice tests out of reach of many potential and capable students. Instead of listing these products under sports category right next to basketball shoes, they created a separate category called Books. Imagine the outrageous difficulty that puts for underrepresented minorities (except asian americans) to reach these products. ”

Funny how posters keep deflecting and pretending like they don't understand it.

Ive already said it's inappropriate. I also explained how your selective outrage doesn't land so well. I'll be curious to see you call out future racist posts about "test-buying" Asians, but you won't.

I’ve reported anti-Asian comments before. Feel free to confirm with Jeff. I usually just report as “gross”. If any of the “test buying” comments are directed at Asian families I’ll call them out.

And you’ll call out the racist basketball/sneaker comments?

I don't call out anything other than your performative hypocrisy and outrage over some rando's comments about basketball.

Different poster here. You do understand that the basketball comments are made frequently on these threads, for example: comparing the NBA to TJ. It’s obvious what the writers of these posts are trying to do and anyone who act as though they don’t get it is either very, very inexperienced in life or not 100% telling the truth.

I don’t think these are random comments at all. I think that they are talking points that a number of different posters have been using for years.

I think we all agree the comments are inappropriate.

Then we move on to just pointing out that no one goes from thread to thread calling out the MANY comments about "test-buying Asians." It's very obvious what these posters are trying to do and insinuate. Definitely almost like talking points.

I haven’t seen that comment.

I have seen a lot of comments about advantaged families engaging test prep businesses. Some students have reported that employees of these businesses have asked the students to write down questions that appeared on the tests they were prepping for. I have heard this from students at TJ and also teachers who were told this by their students. These were kids from families who were educated and comfortable financially.

There is nothing racist about pointing out that well off families like to be able to give their children advantages in life, and there is nothing racist about pointing out that access to a sought-after public school program should be available to kids from families with a wide spectrum of financial and educational backgrounds, not just the well-off and educated.

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Anonymous wrote:I think the real problem is that URMs have underperformed at just about every turn in this social experiment.

This is untrue.