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Anonymous wrote:I know this is all speculation at this point but I'm wondering if anyone has heard rumors about what is happening in Great Falls with the boundary changes. I understand its fairly official that Forrestville is going to Herndon. I had heard that anything west of Springvale was potentially "on the chopping block" to get rezoned as well. Just recently a friend who is east of Springvale (but pretty darn close) told me they would stay away from anything west of River Bend if you are worried about the rezoning. We are a current Langley pyramid family in the process of moving (for reasons unrelated to the boundary change). We are looking at a home that is between River Bend and Springvale but don't want to risk rezoning if we can help it as our kids are happy with current schools.
Has anyone heard more details about what may happen in that area?


“fairly official” is certainly not accurate, much as some frequent posters wish it were.

The Great Falls community is a tight-knit small community and most families want their kids to go to school with the other kids in the great falls community.


The School Board knows that Great Falls is never so "tight-knit" as when it comes to arguing they should all attend schools in McLean rather than Herndon.

But it's an unincorporated part of Fairfax County, just like many other areas (for example, Annandale, Falls Church, McLean, Springfield, Vienna) where students attend multiple high schools. Great Falls residents often shop in Herndon and Reston, but they don't want their kids to go to school there. I don't know if or how they may change the boundaries, but they won't refrain merely because those who don't want to revert to sending the western part of Great Falls to Herndon claim it's "close-knit."


Weirdly hostile. I remember when caring about your neighbors was a goal for the Dems. Now it is all about tearing those communities apart in a race to the bottom.

Still love my tight-knit community, despite you wanting to destroy it for…reasons?


Such hyperbole. Great Falls will be “destroyed” if kids there go to multiple high schools, just like kids in just about every other part of the county?


What’s the backstory for why you hate an entire town?


DP but why are you so defensive? Plenty of towns send their children to different schools. Plenty of neighborhoods are cut in half and sent to different schools - half of my neighborhood goes to a different high school than the other and all of our children turn out fine. They all hang out on the weekends, are involved in the same extracurriculars, see each other at the pool in the summer, etc., it's fine, nobody is going to "tear apart" your town. If you're as tight knit as you say you are, then this shouldn't cause you any problems at all, actually. Take a deep breath, it's fine.









Plus, the rest of us know this is not actually about your "tight knit" community, it's about how racist y'all are.


Really jumped the shark at the end there. But you got me, I admit it, we’re all racist up in our neck of the woods. 🙄


DP. Was Great Falls a sad, divided community when kids used to attend two different high schools? You want to claim Langley is “your” school because it’s rich, but it should be serving areas closer to the school.


DP. I think a lot of the uproar has to do with not wanting their kids to attend a lower performing school full of FARMS students who happen to be less European-ly, and home values; but they use the loss of community as a main reason. Your kid will loose their community if you move them to private. So, the community excuse, in my view, should not really be brought up as a main reason. Please be honest about your fears.


Have you had a kid in high school? Do you live in a community? From the time my kids were in elementary school, the community, sports, etc, revolved around the high school community. Our babysitters when they were small, the kids selling tickets to music/drama events, your neighbors, etc. Going to football games long before the kids were in high school. This is built over time.

And, I live in a neighborhood which is not being considered for Herndon or Langley.

It is sad that you do not have a feeling for community.
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Anonymous wrote:I know this is all speculation at this point but I'm wondering if anyone has heard rumors about what is happening in Great Falls with the boundary changes. I understand its fairly official that Forrestville is going to Herndon. I had heard that anything west of Springvale was potentially "on the chopping block" to get rezoned as well. Just recently a friend who is east of Springvale (but pretty darn close) told me they would stay away from anything west of River Bend if you are worried about the rezoning. We are a current Langley pyramid family in the process of moving (for reasons unrelated to the boundary change). We are looking at a home that is between River Bend and Springvale but don't want to risk rezoning if we can help it as our kids are happy with current schools.
Has anyone heard more details about what may happen in that area?


“fairly official” is certainly not accurate, much as some frequent posters wish it were.

The Great Falls community is a tight-knit small community and most families want their kids to go to school with the other kids in the great falls community.


The School Board knows that Great Falls is never so "tight-knit" as when it comes to arguing they should all attend schools in McLean rather than Herndon.

But it's an unincorporated part of Fairfax County, just like many other areas (for example, Annandale, Falls Church, McLean, Springfield, Vienna) where students attend multiple high schools. Great Falls residents often shop in Herndon and Reston, but they don't want their kids to go to school there. I don't know if or how they may change the boundaries, but they won't refrain merely because those who don't want to revert to sending the western part of Great Falls to Herndon claim it's "close-knit."


Weirdly hostile. I remember when caring about your neighbors was a goal for the Dems. Now it is all about tearing those communities apart in a race to the bottom.

Still love my tight-knit community, despite you wanting to destroy it for…reasons?


Such hyperbole. Great Falls will be “destroyed” if kids there go to multiple high schools, just like kids in just about every other part of the county?


What’s the backstory for why you hate an entire town?


DP but why are you so defensive? Plenty of towns send their children to different schools. Plenty of neighborhoods are cut in half and sent to different schools - half of my neighborhood goes to a different high school than the other and all of our children turn out fine. They all hang out on the weekends, are involved in the same extracurriculars, see each other at the pool in the summer, etc., it's fine, nobody is going to "tear apart" your town. If you're as tight knit as you say you are, then this shouldn't cause you any problems at all, actually. Take a deep breath, it's fine.









Plus, the rest of us know this is not actually about your "tight knit" community, it's about how racist y'all are.


Really jumped the shark at the end there. But you got me, I admit it, we’re all racist up in our neck of the woods. 🙄


DP. Was Great Falls a sad, divided community when kids used to attend two different high schools? You want to claim Langley is “your” school because it’s rich, but it should be serving areas closer to the school.


DP. I think a lot of the uproar has to do with not wanting their kids to attend a lower performing school full of FARMS students who happen to be less European-ly, and home values; but they use the loss of community as a main reason. Your kid will loose their community if you move them to private. So, the community excuse, in my view, should not really be brought up as a main reason. Please be honest about your fears.


Have you had a kid in high school? Do you live in a community? From the time my kids were in elementary school, the community, sports, etc, revolved around the high school community. Our babysitters when they were small, the kids selling tickets to music/drama events, your neighbors, etc. Going to football games long before the kids were in high school. This is built over time.

And, I live in a neighborhood which is not being considered for Herndon or Langley.

It is sad that you do not have a feeling for community.
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Anonymous wrote:I know this is all speculation at this point but I'm wondering if anyone has heard rumors about what is happening in Great Falls with the boundary changes. I understand its fairly official that Forrestville is going to Herndon. I had heard that anything west of Springvale was potentially "on the chopping block" to get rezoned as well. Just recently a friend who is east of Springvale (but pretty darn close) told me they would stay away from anything west of River Bend if you are worried about the rezoning. We are a current Langley pyramid family in the process of moving (for reasons unrelated to the boundary change). We are looking at a home that is between River Bend and Springvale but don't want to risk rezoning if we can help it as our kids are happy with current schools.
Has anyone heard more details about what may happen in that area?


“fairly official” is certainly not accurate, much as some frequent posters wish it were.

The Great Falls community is a tight-knit small community and most families want their kids to go to school with the other kids in the great falls community.


The School Board knows that Great Falls is never so "tight-knit" as when it comes to arguing they should all attend schools in McLean rather than Herndon.

But it's an unincorporated part of Fairfax County, just like many other areas (for example, Annandale, Falls Church, McLean, Springfield, Vienna) where students attend multiple high schools. Great Falls residents often shop in Herndon and Reston, but they don't want their kids to go to school there. I don't know if or how they may change the boundaries, but they won't refrain merely because those who don't want to revert to sending the western part of Great Falls to Herndon claim it's "close-knit."


Oh, look - it's the person who keeps talking about where GF residents shop, as if that is in any way relevant. What school do your kids attend?
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DP. It is not just about where people shop. Schools are just one aspect that can influence the concept of a community. Not all residents have school aged kids.

Where you shop, worship, send mail, eat out, clubs you belong to, all influence what people call community. That is where you run into the same people. Heck, if you have a Herndon address and you signed up for the Herndon Community Facebook page, but your house is zoned for Langley, then what community do you really belong to? And yes, I know examples.
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Anonymous wrote:I know this is all speculation at this point but I'm wondering if anyone has heard rumors about what is happening in Great Falls with the boundary changes. I understand its fairly official that Forrestville is going to Herndon. I had heard that anything west of Springvale was potentially "on the chopping block" to get rezoned as well. Just recently a friend who is east of Springvale (but pretty darn close) told me they would stay away from anything west of River Bend if you are worried about the rezoning. We are a current Langley pyramid family in the process of moving (for reasons unrelated to the boundary change). We are looking at a home that is between River Bend and Springvale but don't want to risk rezoning if we can help it as our kids are happy with current schools.
Has anyone heard more details about what may happen in that area?


“fairly official” is certainly not accurate, much as some frequent posters wish it were.

The Great Falls community is a tight-knit small community and most families want their kids to go to school with the other kids in the great falls community.


The School Board knows that Great Falls is never so "tight-knit" as when it comes to arguing they should all attend schools in McLean rather than Herndon.

But it's an unincorporated part of Fairfax County, just like many other areas (for example, Annandale, Falls Church, McLean, Springfield, Vienna) where students attend multiple high schools. Great Falls residents often shop in Herndon and Reston, but they don't want their kids to go to school there. I don't know if or how they may change the boundaries, but they won't refrain merely because those who don't want to revert to sending the western part of Great Falls to Herndon claim it's "close-knit."


Weirdly hostile. I remember when caring about your neighbors was a goal for the Dems. Now it is all about tearing those communities apart in a race to the bottom.

Still love my tight-knit community, despite you wanting to destroy it for…reasons?


Such hyperbole. Great Falls will be “destroyed” if kids there go to multiple high schools, just like kids in just about every other part of the county?


What’s the backstory for why you hate an entire town?


DP but why are you so defensive? Plenty of towns send their children to different schools. Plenty of neighborhoods are cut in half and sent to different schools - half of my neighborhood goes to a different high school than the other and all of our children turn out fine. They all hang out on the weekends, are involved in the same extracurriculars, see each other at the pool in the summer, etc., it's fine, nobody is going to "tear apart" your town. If you're as tight knit as you say you are, then this shouldn't cause you any problems at all, actually. Take a deep breath, it's fine.









Plus, the rest of us know this is not actually about your "tight knit" community, it's about how racist y'all are.


Really jumped the shark at the end there. But you got me, I admit it, we’re all racist up in our neck of the woods. 🙄


DP. Was Great Falls a sad, divided community when kids used to attend two different high schools? You want to claim Langley is “your” school because it’s rich, but it should be serving areas closer to the school.


DP. I think a lot of the uproar has to do with not wanting their kids to attend a lower performing school full of FARMS students who happen to be less European-ly, and home values; but they use the loss of community as a main reason. Your kid will loose their community if you move them to private. So, the community excuse, in my view, should not really be brought up as a main reason. Please be honest about your fears.


Have you had a kid in high school? Do you live in a community? From the time my kids were in elementary school, the community, sports, etc, revolved around the high school community. Our babysitters when they were small, the kids selling tickets to music/drama events, your neighbors, etc. Going to football games long before the kids were in high school. This is built over time.

And, I live in a neighborhood which is not being considered for Herndon or Langley.

It is sad that you do not have a feeling for community.



My point exactly.

About the community part… no worries. Almost every time I go out, I run into somebody I know. I am greeted by my first name when I frequent certain restaurants. I often get asked about how my kids are doing. My kids have even been featured in the community newspaper. I like my community.
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I read in the paper that the King Abdullah Academy has been a well respected IB school. So it’s kind of a shame it’s closing, but perhaps a “new western hs” there could become the IB magnet high school for all of FCPS? That would solve the AP IB equity issue across the county and solve the transfer issue overnight. That could also help solve the VHSL transfer issue stemming from the Hayfield crisis.

As a magnet high school open to all students, the surrounding school pyramid boundaries would not be affected at all.
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I understand the community fears, but maybe trust that one community can be just as kind and welcoming as another. Otherwise, the message becomes, "We only want to be a part of this community. We don't want anything to do with those people." And that is not a good message to send -- not to the children or to the people who live in a different community.
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Anonymous wrote:I understand the community fears, but maybe trust that one community can be just as kind and welcoming as another. Otherwise, the message becomes, "We only want to be a part of this community. We don't want anything to do with those people." And that is not a good message to send -- not to the children or to the people who live in a different community.


Yes, of course. "Honey, we've enjoyed having you for a while, but now we are going to give you to another family. I'm sure you will like them."
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Anonymous wrote:I understand the community fears, but maybe trust that one community can be just as kind and welcoming as another. Otherwise, the message becomes, "We only want to be a part of this community. We don't want anything to do with those people." And that is not a good message to send -- not to the children or to the people who live in a different community.


Yes, of course. "Honey, we've enjoyed having you for a while, but now we are going to give you to another family. I'm sure you will like them."


Ha exactly. These people have zero concept of a good community. Seems like they care more about tearing its apart than any benefit that they would receive.
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Anonymous wrote:I know this is all speculation at this point but I'm wondering if anyone has heard rumors about what is happening in Great Falls with the boundary changes. I understand its fairly official that Forrestville is going to Herndon. I had heard that anything west of Springvale was potentially "on the chopping block" to get rezoned as well. Just recently a friend who is east of Springvale (but pretty darn close) told me they would stay away from anything west of River Bend if you are worried about the rezoning. We are a current Langley pyramid family in the process of moving (for reasons unrelated to the boundary change). We are looking at a home that is between River Bend and Springvale but don't want to risk rezoning if we can help it as our kids are happy with current schools.
Has anyone heard more details about what may happen in that area?


“fairly official” is certainly not accurate, much as some frequent posters wish it were.

The Great Falls community is a tight-knit small community and most families want their kids to go to school with the other kids in the great falls community.


The School Board knows that Great Falls is never so "tight-knit" as when it comes to arguing they should all attend schools in McLean rather than Herndon.

But it's an unincorporated part of Fairfax County, just like many other areas (for example, Annandale, Falls Church, McLean, Springfield, Vienna) where students attend multiple high schools. Great Falls residents often shop in Herndon and Reston, but they don't want their kids to go to school there. I don't know if or how they may change the boundaries, but they won't refrain merely because those who don't want to revert to sending the western part of Great Falls to Herndon claim it's "close-knit."


Weirdly hostile. I remember when caring about your neighbors was a goal for the Dems. Now it is all about tearing those communities apart in a race to the bottom.

Still love my tight-knit community, despite you wanting to destroy it for…reasons?


Such hyperbole. Great Falls will be “destroyed” if kids there go to multiple high schools, just like kids in just about every other part of the county?


What’s the backstory for why you hate an entire town?


DP but why are you so defensive? Plenty of towns send their children to different schools. Plenty of neighborhoods are cut in half and sent to different schools - half of my neighborhood goes to a different high school than the other and all of our children turn out fine. They all hang out on the weekends, are involved in the same extracurriculars, see each other at the pool in the summer, etc., it's fine, nobody is going to "tear apart" your town. If you're as tight knit as you say you are, then this shouldn't cause you any problems at all, actually. Take a deep breath, it's fine.









Plus, the rest of us know this is not actually about your "tight knit" community, it's about how racist y'all are.


Really jumped the shark at the end there. But you got me, I admit it, we’re all racist up in our neck of the woods. 🙄


DP. Was Great Falls a sad, divided community when kids used to attend two different high schools? You want to claim Langley is “your” school because it’s rich, but it should be serving areas closer to the school.


DP. I think a lot of the uproar has to do with not wanting their kids to attend a lower performing school full of FARMS students who happen to be less European-ly, and home values; but they use the loss of community as a main reason. Your kid will loose their community if you move them to private. So, the community excuse, in my view, should not really be brought up as a main reason. Please be honest about your fears.


“European-ly”? You might want to check those Langley demographics before you come in here with that racist attitude. It’s like up is down nowadays with the far left.

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Anonymous wrote:I understand the community fears, but maybe trust that one community can be just as kind and welcoming as another. Otherwise, the message becomes, "We only want to be a part of this community. We don't want anything to do with those people." And that is not a good message to send -- not to the children or to the people who live in a different community.


Yes, of course. "Honey, we've enjoyed having you for a while, but now we are going to give you to another family. I'm sure you will like them."


Since 2008 kids have been redistricted out of Oakton, Madison, Westfield, Chantilly, Annandale, Lewis, Fairfax, and McLean to other high schools. And of course there were big boundary changes when South County opened in 2005.

If kids get redistricted out of Langley, they’ll do fine. Stop being such babies and model better behavior for your kids. You are no more “tight knit” than any other part of the county, except to the extent that you find common ground in fearing and disrespecting others.
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Anonymous wrote:I understand the community fears, but maybe trust that one community can be just as kind and welcoming as another. Otherwise, the message becomes, "We only want to be a part of this community. We don't want anything to do with those people." And that is not a good message to send -- not to the children or to the people who live in a different community.


Yes, of course. "Honey, we've enjoyed having you for a while, but now we are going to give you to another family. I'm sure you will like them."


Since 2008 kids have been redistricted out of Oakton, Madison, Westfield, Chantilly, Annandale, Lewis, Fairfax, and McLean to other high schools. And of course there were big boundary changes when South County opened in 2005.

If kids get redistricted out of Langley, they’ll do fine. Stop being such babies and model better behavior for your kids. You are no more “tight knit” than any other part of the county, except to the extent that you find common ground in fearing and disrespecting others.


DP. No one likes redistricting. None of those people liked it.

Now the school board is preparing to redistrict schools in almost every pyramid - for equity. They are preparing to make everyone mad. You won't spin this away.
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It really isn't fair to call people racist because they don't want to get rezoned to a school with known gang issues.
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Any metrics to determine yourself safe from redistricting? Less than a mile from your school?
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Anonymous wrote:It really isn't fair to call people racist because they don't want to get rezoned to a school with known gang issues.


Or they don't want their kids to attend a school with worse educational outcomes that lacks AP courses and extracurriculars. By the way, this does nothing to help any of the students at the low-performing schools. It evens out the stats and allows SB members to virtue signal their moral superiority in the name of equity.
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The Langley people are a bit much with their “tight-knit” rhetoric but the difference with the upcoming changes may be limited/no grandfathering. There was generous grandfathering with the earlier changes but it seems unlikely they can swing that if they make a lot of adjustments at the same time (limited bus capacity).
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