ASFS Boundary Change -- Any insight

[Anonymous]

So does anyone have any inkling of how this process will work for crafting a new boundary for ASFS? It seems likely to impact Long branch (which will be siphoning off some of its population to new school at TJ?), Taylor (how overcrowded is Taylor, could some of the Yorktown peninsula thru Rosslyn end up in the Taylor pyramid?), Ashlawn, and maybe Glebe. Guessing Lyon Village and Cherrydale and Virginia Square, but will they cut the north south boundaries and how far east will they go?

Also, how will existing families be impacted -- during PTA meeting Lander promised that no Taylor/Jamestown families (including siblings) would have to leave when key lottery changed, but what will happen if all these schools are re-zoned? Generally a re-zone is immediate, except maybe 5th grade students are exempted, I believe.

[Anonymous]

The ASFS families are determined to worry when there is no basis for concern.

1. All current ASFS students are considered 'transfers'. The recently passed school board policy stated that all current students, and all students enrolled in the next year, as well as their siblings are considered grandfathered. Thus, no matter what happens to the boundaries no current students will have to leave ASFS.

2. The most recent discussion from the school board is that it will open up all elementary boundaries for 2019. No one knows what will happen.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The ASFS families are determined to worry when there is no basis for concern.

1. All current ASFS students are considered 'transfers'. The recently passed school board policy stated that all current students, and all students enrolled in the next year, as well as their siblings are considered grandfathered. Thus, no matter what happens to the boundaries no current students will have to leave ASFS.

2. The most recent discussion from the school board is that it will open up all elementary boundaries for 2019. No one knows what will happen.

That's a little condescending. As the third most-crowded APS elementary school (already 120% capacity) the concerns about increasing #s and boundaries are certainly warranted.

[Anonymous]

It is going to cascade through several other schools. My guess is that some McKinley PUs get shifted to Ashlawn once Ashlawn loses PUs to Science Focus. Another wild card is whatever happens to Reed. If it is a neighborhood school, then we'll get boundary changes again in two more years. I'm guessing APS will say that is one more reason to make Reed a choice school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The ASFS families are determined to worry when there is no basis for concern.

1. All current ASFS students are considered 'transfers'. The recently passed school board policy stated that all current students, and all students enrolled in the next year, as well as their siblings are considered grandfathered. Thus, no matter what happens to the boundaries no current students will have to leave ASFS.

2. The most recent discussion from the school board is that it will open up all elementary boundaries for 2019. No one knows what will happen.

So under new sibling policy, all transfers and their co-attending siblings will remain. But once a transfer student aged out any siblings starting school must go neighborhood school?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The ASFS families are determined to worry when there is no basis for concern.

1. All current ASFS students are considered 'transfers'. The recently passed school board policy stated that all current students, and all students enrolled in the next year, as well as their siblings are considered grandfathered. Thus, no matter what happens to the boundaries no current students will have to leave ASFS.

2. The most recent discussion from the school board is that it will open up all elementary boundaries for 2019. No one knows what will happen.

That's a little condescending. As the third most-crowded APS elementary school (already 120% capacity) the concerns about increasing #s and boundaries are certainly warranted.

Well this whole key neighborhood-> lottery and team dissolution came out of NOWHERE. And the results are likely the most over capacity school in APS if they delay re zoning. For example we might move to a new place if we are going to be zoned for Long Branch anyways bc that would afford a much nicer house.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The ASFS families are determined to worry when there is no basis for concern.

1. All current ASFS students are considered 'transfers'. The recently passed school board policy stated that all current students, and all students enrolled in the next year, as well as their siblings are considered grandfathered. Thus, no matter what happens to the boundaries no current students will have to leave ASFS.

2. The most recent discussion from the school board is that it will open up all elementary boundaries for 2019. No one knows what will happen.

So under new sibling policy, all transfers and their co-attending siblings will remain. But once a transfer student aged out any siblings starting school must go neighborhood school?

My understanding is they can stay but get no transportation.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It is going to cascade through several other schools. My guess is that some McKinley PUs get shifted to Ashlawn once Ashlawn loses PUs to Science Focus. Another wild card is whatever happens to Reed. If it is a neighborhood school, then we'll get boundary changes again in two more years. I'm guessing APS will say that is one more reason to make Reed a choice school.

Where are the Ashlawn planning units that you think would shift to ASFS? Seems too far away.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Well this whole key neighborhood-> lottery and team dissolution came out of NOWHERE. And the results are likely the most over capacity school in APS if they delay re zoning. For example we might move to a new place if we are going to be zoned for Long Branch anyways bc that would afford a much nicer house.

um- no it didn't? The school board listed the changes to the options and transfers policy on its agenda starting last school year 2015/2016. Then they had an incredibly open community discussion about this. A quick change to the policy was to get rid of the neighborhood preferences for options schools. I'm not sure what else APS could have done to publicize this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Well this whole key neighborhood-> lottery and team dissolution came out of NOWHERE. And the results are likely the most over capacity school in APS if they delay re zoning. For example we might move to a new place if we are going to be zoned for Long Branch anyways bc that would afford a much nicer house.

um- no it didn't? The school board listed the changes to the options and transfers policy on its agenda starting last school year 2015/2016. Then they had an incredibly open community discussion about this. A quick change to the policy was to get rid of the neighborhood preferences for options schools. I'm not sure what else APS could have done to publicize this.

Exactly, the major impact was from the "quick change". Almost feels like a bait-and-switch.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It is going to cascade through several other schools. My guess is that some McKinley PUs get shifted to Ashlawn once Ashlawn loses PUs to Science Focus. Another wild card is whatever happens to Reed. If it is a neighborhood school, then we'll get boundary changes again in two more years. I'm guessing APS will say that is one more reason to make Reed a choice school.

Where are the Ashlawn planning units that you think would shift to ASFS? Seems too far away.

South of washington blvd right down kirkwood is zoned from Ashlawn, that maybe within 0.5 miles of the school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The ASFS families are determined to worry when there is no basis for concern.

1. All current ASFS students are considered 'transfers'. The recently passed school board policy stated that all current students, and all students enrolled in the next year, as well as their siblings are considered grandfathered. Thus, no matter what happens to the boundaries no current students will have to leave ASFS.

2. The most recent discussion from the school board is that it will open up all elementary boundaries for 2019. No one knows what will happen.

So under new sibling policy, all transfers and their co-attending siblings will remain. But once a transfer student aged out any siblings starting school must go neighborhood school?

My understanding is they can stay but get no transportation.

My on is in 4th grade, his younger brother is 1, so older DS will be in MS before younger DS enters ES. We live in Key zone but may end up zoned for Long Branch. So even though I have no current students at ASFS, would my younger DS be allowed to attend or would he have to go to long branch?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The ASFS families are determined to worry when there is no basis for concern.

1. All current ASFS students are considered 'transfers'. The recently passed school board policy stated that all current students, and all students enrolled in the next year, as well as their siblings are considered grandfathered. Thus, no matter what happens to the boundaries no current students will have to leave ASFS.

2. The most recent discussion from the school board is that it will open up all elementary boundaries for 2019. No one knows what will happen.

So under new sibling policy, all transfers and their co-attending siblings will remain. But once a transfer student aged out any siblings starting school must go neighborhood school?

My understanding is they can stay but get no transportation.

My on is in 4th grade, his younger brother is 1, so older DS will be in MS before younger DS enters ES. We live in Key zone but may end up zoned for Long Branch. So even though I have no current students at ASFS, would my younger DS be allowed to attend or would he have to go to long branch?

Since they won't be concurrent your younger son wouldn't be grandfathered in if the boundary changes. If I understand correctly.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Well this whole key neighborhood-> lottery and team dissolution came out of NOWHERE. And the results are likely the most over capacity school in APS if they delay re zoning. For example we might move to a new place if we are going to be zoned for Long Branch anyways bc that would afford a much nicer house.

um- no it didn't? The school board listed the changes to the options and transfers policy on its agenda starting last school year 2015/2016. Then they had an incredibly open community discussion about this. A quick change to the policy was to get rid of the neighborhood preferences for options schools. I'm not sure what else APS could have done to publicize this.

Exactly, the major impact was from the "quick change". Almost feels like a bait-and-switch.

how on earth is that a bait and switch?????? Seriously- I don't understand how you could think that. The old policy had the neighborhood preference. One of the first questions asked by APS to the public in the 'getting started' meetings was what about preferences- http://www.apsva.us/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/Getting-Started-Meetings-02-22-17-final.pdf.
The community surveys overwhelmingly supported getting rid of those preferences.

[Anonymous]

My on is in 4th grade, his younger brother is 1, so older DS will be in MS before younger DS enters ES. We live in Key zone but may end up zoned for Long Branch. So even though I have no current students at ASFS, would my younger DS be allowed to attend or would he have to go to long branch?


if there is no concurrently enrolled sibling- there is no grandfathering. You would go to whatever your neighborhood school is, or apply for a transfer pursuant to the transfer policy.