ASFS Boundary Change -- Any insight

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Yes it will - the more diverse portion of the population is on the outer fringes of the existing boundaries. If they readjust the boundaries to a closer walk zone around the school, it gets richer and whiter.

The more diverse population part is in Courthouse and Rosslyn. They will probably still be in the neighborhood zone for ASFS, but not Key (as that will fall off as an automatic guaranteed option).

Those are the kids who get busses now. If they move the boundaries to make it more walkable, they would drop off and increase the kids from Lyon Village and Cherrydale. More white, more $$.

The ASFS kids in Lyon Village also get a bus. If you add the western part of LV to the SF zone, couldn't you move the LV kids someplace else, given that they're on a bus anyway? Not sure who would take them -- "Affluent white kids! We got affluent white kids here! Gitcher white kids!"

That's insane science focus is the closest school why wood you buds them somewhere much further

To make room for the kids who can actually walk to ASFS once it becomes a neighborhood school.Those students have been bused to Taylor for years while LV has been bused to ASFS. Makes no sense. Since many LV students have to be on a bus no matter what ES they attend why not bus them to Discovery or Jamestown where there's space.

Ah I see it's the Lyon Village hater who has been peeved that SF went her neighborhood school. Now she wants penance to make those LV students to drive past their former neighborhood school out to Taylor. I'm sorry you are still closer to Taylor than the LV folk so you may stil have to be bused -- LV will go to SF. Look at Ashlawn crazy boundary, just how it is.

Some of Rosslyn may go to Long Branch, but Clarendon and Cherrydale will end up at SF which includes lyon village.

11:07 here and not sure if you are calling me the LV hater but assume you are. I am not "peeved that SF went her neighborhood school" especially considering my DCs attended ASFS. I live 3 short blocks from ASFS so, no, I don't think my planning unit will be bused to Taylor once ASFS becomes a neighborhood school. Not even sure how to make sense of the last part of your final sentence.

Some people in LV are getting unhinged at the thought that they may not be able to attend ASFS.

*Went should have been wasn't that was autocorrect shenanigan

And without fail it's people who live closer to science focus but aren't zoned who are good this resentment -- which you still do despite lottery acceptance

And you may be biased to Taylor because you are still closer to Taylor than Lyon village or Clarendon; there is no other school beside science hocus anywhere closen to their so they are going to Science Focus and there are a lot of students there, so folks west of science focus could easily remain at Taylor or even go to glebe

My reference to ashlawn was their very long East West boundary. They may may a boundary long but they will not divide it up again after the whole Yorktown island fiasco. Maybe they will make a very long north hugging boundary to LV along the river but that would make an unsustainable population for Taylor.

Since you can't be bothered to look at the map here's a link. So you can make sense of all the parts of my sentences

http://www.apsva.us/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/ESZones_Letter_2017.pdf

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Yes it will - the more diverse portion of the population is on the outer fringes of the existing boundaries. If they readjust the boundaries to a closer walk zone around the school, it gets richer and whiter.

The more diverse population part is in Courthouse and Rosslyn. They will probably still be in the neighborhood zone for ASFS, but not Key (as that will fall off as an automatic guaranteed option).

Those are the kids who get busses now. If they move the boundaries to make it more walkable, they would drop off and increase the kids from Lyon Village and Cherrydale. More white, more $$.

The ASFS kids in Lyon Village also get a bus. If you add the western part of LV to the SF zone, couldn't you move the LV kids someplace else, given that they're on a bus anyway? Not sure who would take them -- "Affluent white kids! We got affluent white kids here! Gitcher white kids!"

That's insane science focus is the closest school why wood you buds them somewhere much further

To make room for the kids who can actually walk to ASFS once it becomes a neighborhood school.Those students have been bused to Taylor for years while LV has been bused to ASFS. Makes no sense. Since many LV students have to be on a bus no matter what ES they attend why not bus them to Discovery or Jamestown where there's space.

Ah I see it's the Lyon Village hater who has been peeved that SF went her neighborhood school. Now she wants penance to make those LV students to drive past their former neighborhood school out to Taylor. I'm sorry you are still closer to Taylor than the LV folk so you may stil have to be bused -- LV will go to SF. Look at Ashlawn crazy boundary, just how it is.

Some of Rosslyn may go to Long Branch, but Clarendon and Cherrydale will end up at SF which includes lyon village.

11:07 here and not sure if you are calling me the LV hater but assume you are. I am not "peeved that SF went her neighborhood school" especially considering my DCs attended ASFS. I live 3 short blocks from ASFS so, no, I don't think my planning unit will be bused to Taylor once ASFS becomes a neighborhood school. Not even sure how to make sense of the last part of your final sentence.

Some people in LV are getting unhinged at the thought that they may not be able to attend ASFS.

*Went should have been wasn't that was autocorrect shenanigan

And without fail it's people who live closer to science focus but aren't zoned who are good this resentment -- which you still do despite lottery acceptance

And you may be biased to Taylor because you are still closer to Taylor than Lyon village or Clarendon; there is no other school beside science hocus anywhere closen to their so they are going to Science Focus and there are a lot of students there, so folks west of science focus could easily remain at Taylor or even go to glebe

My reference to ashlawn was their very long East West boundary. They may may a boundary long but they will not divide it up again after the whole Yorktown island fiasco. Maybe they will make a very long north hugging boundary to LV along the river but that would make an unsustainable population for Taylor.

Since you can't be bothered to look at the map here's a link. So you can make sense of all the parts of my sentences

http://www.apsva.us/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/ESZones_Letter_2017.pdf

Haha man I need a new phone typing on this is giving me arthritis

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Anonymous wrote:Hi. I live in the part of LV that is zoned for ASFS, and I think we should be zoned for something else.

I also think that schools should not allow parent dropoffs under ordinary circumstances. You want a walkable neighborhood school? Fine. Walk there.

I want to agree, but you'd need to define ordinary. I love that we live 4 hilly blocks from our school, but unless I'm working from home, we do drive to drop off. Why? Because it's inefficient for me to walk DS to school, turn around walk home, change into work clothes, and then drive past the school to go to work. The walkable part is good in that it means we live near the school and his classmates, walking is an option on days when we are home or when he's in 5th grade and can walk himself, it does allow us to sleep a bit later instead of catching an earlier bus. Unfortunately, the daily walk part isn't a good option for us despite being fairly close.

Four! Hilly! Blocks!

I think APS is not going to solve its problems as long as people are unable to distinguish between "not the best thing for me" and "not a reasonable policy."

+1,000,000

Your convenience is of no concern to me, nor should it be to anyone making policy.

I get it, I do. However, the no drop-off thing, besides the efficiency aspect for most working families is also completely unenforceable. Are they going to check license plates "Oops, sorry Larla. You live in the walk zone, so you can't get out of your car. Brayden over there, he lives a mile away so we'll let that car pull up and drop him off." Our school can't even enforce the no u-turn over the double yellow line in front of the school, how on earth can they reasonably sort out which cars can drop off and which can't.

I'm not the PP who thinks walking could/should be enforced. I am just a person who thinks the constant cries about "walk zones" are not a good enough reason for exclusionary school policy. Many "walkers" don't actually walk, or maybe even can't safely walk to their closest schools, so proximity and walkability should move further down the list of our county's priorities when creating/adjusting school boundaries.

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I've been walking my kids to elementary school for years, I understand busing in later years, but it is really enjoyable to just walk hand in hand with your kid.

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Anonymous wrote:I've been walking my kids to elementary school for years, I understand busing in later years, but it is really enjoyable to just walk hand in hand with your kid.

If I didn't have to get to work I would walk every day snow or shine or rain. Sadly those extra 40 minutes mean the difference between being employed or not. Before care is an option but then we have to wake up the kids at crack of dawn to allow walking

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Anonymous wrote:I've been walking my kids to elementary school for years, I understand busing in later years, but it is really enjoyable to just walk hand in hand with your kid.

If I didn't have to get to work I would walk every day snow or shine or rain. Sadly those extra 40 minutes mean the difference between being employed or not. Before care is an option but then we have to wake up the kids at crack of dawn to allow walking

This is my point, you are certainly not unique in this respect. And that is why, for many, "walk zone" does not really equate to actually walking, so it should be deprioritized for schools where this is more the norm, or walk zones should be scaled back to actually reflect those who could safely and do routinely walk to school (because it's not really making us greener or safer or whatever for families who live a little too far or across one too many busy intersections, but within the walk zone to drop off instead. The school administration knows whether walkers are really walking and could provide that data so we're not all just talking out of our a**es during boundary adjustments. If 90% of the students in a walk zone are in before care and being driven to school, does it make sense to prioritize I don't discount those who can and do walk their kids to school. It IS nice. We walked our kids to their preschool for years. Now they take a bus to ES because we live distinctly outside of the walk zone. But we walk them to the bus stop and wait with them there instead. Still a sweet little routine, even if we're not walking as far. For many families walking kids to school is a luxury and I suspect it's increasingly rare as there are more two working parent households than not. That's certainly been my observation.

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Newsflash to Above posters: over half of Lyon Village ALREADY is zoned to Taylor Elementary. Ironically, it is the 1/2 of the neighborhood closest to ASF that age Taylor. The portion below Highland closer to Key is the ASF portion of LV.

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Anonymous wrote:I've been walking my kids to elementary school for years, I understand busing in later years, but it is really enjoyable to just walk hand in hand with your kid.

If I didn't have to get to work I would walk every day snow or shine or rain. Sadly those extra 40 minutes mean the difference between being employed or not. Before care is an option but then we have to wake up the kids at crack of dawn to allow walking

This is my point, you are certainly not unique in this respect. And that is why, for many, "walk zone" does not really equate to actually walking, so it should be deprioritized for schools where this is more the norm, or walk zones should be scaled back to actually reflect those who could safely and do routinely walk to school (because it's not really making us greener or safer or whatever for families who live a little too far or across one too many busy intersections, but within the walk zone to drop off instead. The school administration knows whether walkers are really walking and could provide that data so we're not all just talking out of our a**es during boundary adjustments. If 90% of the students in a walk zone are in before care and being driven to school, does it make sense to prioritize I don't discount those who can and do walk their kids to school. It IS nice. We walked our kids to their preschool for years. Now they take a bus to ES because we live distinctly outside of the walk zone. But we walk them to the bus stop and wait with them there instead. Still a sweet little routine, even if we're not walking as far. For many families walking kids to school is a luxury and I suspect it's increasingly rare as there are more two working parent households than not. That's certainly been my observation.

What does before care have to do with walking? Whether or not I drop my kid off for before care or not I still walk him. I get your overall point but this I didn't understand. And whether or not families walk in the early years many parents will let their kids walk home in 4th or 5th grade. I walk my child to and from everyday but I can't wait till 5th grade when he can walk himself home.

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This problem could be solved in 2 minutes if you bussed the poors to Fairfax.

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Anonymous wrote:Newsflash to Above posters: over half of Lyon Village ALREADY is zoned to Taylor Elementary. Ironically, it is the 1/2 of the neighborhood closest to ASF that age Taylor. The portion below Highland closer to Key is the ASF portion of LV.

What exactly is your point? Anyways the homes west of SF may remain at Taylor everything East is going to Science Focus and their are a lot of kids there now that key boundary is dissolved

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Anonymous wrote:Newsflash to Above posters: over half of Lyon Village ALREADY is zoned to Taylor Elementary. Ironically, it is the 1/2 of the neighborhood closest to ASF that age Taylor. The portion below Highland closer to Key is the ASF portion of LV.

What exactly is your point? Anyways the homes west of SF may remain at Taylor everything East is going to Science Focus and their are a lot of kids there now that key boundary is dissolved

Like a PP said, unhinged.

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Anonymous wrote:Newsflash to Above posters: over half of Lyon Village ALREADY is zoned to Taylor Elementary. Ironically, it is the 1/2 of the neighborhood closest to ASF that age Taylor. The portion below Highland closer to Key is the ASF portion of LV.

What exactly is your point? Anyways the homes west of SF may remain at Taylor everything East is going to Science Focus and their are a lot of kids there now that key boundary is dissolved

Like a PP said, unhinged.

You can toss in ad hominem attacks but at end of the day the county is going to take the opportunity to reduce the buses rider time and distance and most importantly cost when they revise the boundaries. And there are no elementary schools closer to LV than ASFS. So the ASFS boundary will stretch further to the east than to the west. That will ensure the simplest and shortest transportation. Busing kids past neighborhood schools (which is what the school is now) would waste to much money and for what exactly? I agree the previous boundary was awkward, but that was the mistake made long ago by making key immersion and not colocating non immersion neighborhood school in boundary