FCPS Boundary Review Updates

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In truth, it is much easier to post links to meetings through already existing email pathways and websites than it is to create those pathways in communities that have no HOA. In a non-HOA Community that would involve door knocking, social media posting across multiple sites, getting personal contact information etc just to get to the point where a community has an email list. I understand people’s defensiveness in me pointing that out, but it isn’t “rude” to say so. It is the truth. Saying things like “we encourage all communities to participate” when many can’t organize as easily as you do is disingenuous.

I've been watching this thread because I went through this with my kids. I do live in tract housing with an HOA. Our HOA was not involved at all. However, our PTA parents became seriously engaged and formed groups to fight a change.

However, at that time, they were not taking elementary neighborhoods and splitting them as they are now. That hits closer to home. Anyone who cannot see that either has an agenda or has never had children.
I don't blame anyone who wants to keep the status quo.

Anyone who does not want to keep the status quo is likely someone who has no attachment to their current community and school.

The status quo isn't really working for Lewis, boundaries or academics. Yet nothing is being done. People on here talk about community, but Lewis really has no strong community. I would wager the neighborhoods that feed it have some of the highest private, homeschool, or pupil placement rates. Not a lot of Lewis graduate signs up right now.

Sandy Anderson stated at 2 public meetings this past week that she intends to move Rolling Valley/Key/Lewis families out of Lewis/Key and into Irving/WSHS.

So Lewis will lose around a couple dozen students

* Thru has Rolling Valley/Key/Lewis neighborhoods staying put for middle and high school, moving their split feeder to Saratoga Elementary, which is exactly the same distance from that neighborhood as Rolling Valley, eliminating the Rolling Valley split feeder and keeping all those students together through high school.

Thru's map shows 106 RV zoned Lewis students, around 15-16 per grade, so not a small number of students. Over 4 grades, that is at least 60 students potentially moving to WSHS, more once the neighborhood becomes WSHS.

Sandy Anderson says it is only 10 students per grade, which doesn't match with Thru's numbers.

Something is wrong with their numbers.

wow, really interesting. I thought Anderson's whole goal was to move more families to Lewis, not move them out of Lewis into the already over-crowded (according to her) West Springfield. Sometime back around 2015, probably when Daventry got moved, those RV families really tried to get rezoned to Irving/WS and couldn't make it happen. Geographically, they are one of the few places where it does make sense to just switch the elementary and leave them at Key/Lewis. I don't get why Anderson would support them moving to WSHS.
Rolling Valley doesn't need to lose students, though. I think they'd be at about 76% capacity if those kids go to Saratoga. And the "program capacity", which looks on the high side for RVES, is because they have a large special ed and autism program and those kids utilize a lot of space. The general grade classrooms are really dwindling. Many of the grades only have two classrooms. Even losing 10-16 kids per grade would really reduced enrollment of the core classroom grades.

[Anonymous]

I understand their desire to make demographics more balanced. However, in order to do that, you would have to have extensive busing crisscrossing Fairfax County.
That would be awful.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:At the Lewis meeting this evening, the overwhelming sentiment was against boundary changes. Always great to have to burn a Friday evening to help FCPS discover the obvious.

Any Lewis parents there? Anyone tell them to drop IB?

The pigeonhole (?) board has 240+ votes for Emerald Chase and whatever they want, but most comments are “please don’t do this right now”

Emerald Chase is flooding the Lewis meeting?

That is even more ridiculous than them flooding the Robinson meeting

There was one Emerald Chase post that got upvoted tonight surrounded by a bunch about Timberlane, Falls Hill, Hunt Valley, McLean, etc. some of you need to find a new boogeyman

It was upvoted exponentially more than any other comment. It is pretty clear what emerald chase is doing. The others had more comments but only a few upvotes. But emerald chase sounds like a raise the trees and put up tract housing kind of place, so the Astro turfing of meetings fits the community.

The timberlane community sent over 600 negative comments on the map

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I understand their desire to make demographics more balanced. However, in order to do that, you would have to have extensive busing crisscrossing Fairfax County.
That would be awful.

Demographics are not a factor for this review. Policy 8130 has the factors.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I understand their desire to make demographics more balanced. However, in order to do that, you would have to have extensive busing crisscrossing Fairfax County.
That would be awful.

Demographics are not a factor for this review. Policy 8130 has the factors.

Do you not know how to read between the lines?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

In truth, it is much easier to post links to meetings through already existing email pathways and websites than it is to create those pathways in communities that have no HOA. In a non-HOA Community that would involve door knocking, social media posting across multiple sites, getting personal contact information etc just to get to the point where a community has an email list. I understand people’s defensiveness in me pointing that out, but it isn’t “rude” to say so. It is the truth. Saying things like “we encourage all communities to participate” when many can’t organize as easily as you do is disingenuous.

I've been watching this thread because I went through this with my kids. I do live in tract housing with an HOA. Our HOA was not involved at all. However, our PTA parents became seriously engaged and formed groups to fight a change.

However, at that time, they were not taking elementary neighborhoods and splitting them as they are now. That hits closer to home. Anyone who cannot see that either has an agenda or has never had children.
I don't blame anyone who wants to keep the status quo.

Anyone who does not want to keep the status quo is likely someone who has no attachment to their current community and school.

The status quo isn't really working for Lewis, boundaries or academics. Yet nothing is being done. People on here talk about community, but Lewis really has no strong community. I would wager the neighborhoods that feed it have some of the highest private, homeschool, or pupil placement rates. Not a lot of Lewis graduate signs up right now.

Sandy Anderson stated at 2 public meetings this past week that she intends to move Rolling Valley/Key/Lewis families out of Lewis/Key and into Irving/WSHS.

So Lewis will lose around a couple dozen students

* Thru has Rolling Valley/Key/Lewis neighborhoods staying put for middle and high school, moving their split feeder to Saratoga Elementary, which is exactly the same distance from that neighborhood as Rolling Valley, eliminating the Rolling Valley split feeder and keeping all those students together through high school.

Thru's map shows 106 RV zoned Lewis students, around 15-16 per grade, so not a small number of students. Over 4 grades, that is at least 60 students potentially moving to WSHS, more once the neighborhood becomes WSHS.

Sandy Anderson says it is only 10 students per grade, which doesn't match with Thru's numbers.

Something is wrong with their numbers.

wow, really interesting. I thought Anderson's whole goal was to move more families to Lewis, not move them out of Lewis into the already over-crowded (according to her) West Springfield. Sometime back around 2015, probably when Daventry got moved, those RV families really tried to get rezoned to Irving/WS and couldn't make it happen. Geographically, they are one of the few places where it does make sense to just switch the elementary and leave them at Key/Lewis. I don't get why Anderson would support them moving to WSHS.
Rolling Valley doesn't need to lose students, though. I think they'd be at about 76% capacity if those kids go to Saratoga. And the "program capacity", which looks on the high side for RVES, is because they have a large special ed and autism program and those kids utilize a lot of space. The general grade classrooms are really dwindling. Many of the grades only have two classrooms. Even losing 10-16 kids per grade would really reduced enrollment of the core classroom grades.

Her goal seems to be move HV out of WSHS. Not sure how seeing as that is too many kids for SC schools. And she indicated Lewis is just a rumor but do we trust any of them?

[Anonymous]

Her goal seems to be move HV out of WSHS. Not sure how seeing as that is too many kids for SC schools. And she indicated Lewis is just a rumor but do we trust any of them?

I don't live in that area. However, in the past, the School Board has sprung changes never discussed earlier. If what a PP said is true about comments from Reid and Anderson about mistakes in the THRU suggestions, don't be surprised if options 4-8 pop up. And, then they go with something totally different that was never addressed.

Also, pay attention to your district SB member. They usually have the final call within their district.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:At the Lewis meeting this evening, the overwhelming sentiment was against boundary changes. Always great to have to burn a Friday evening to help FCPS discover the obvious.

Any Lewis parents there? Anyone tell them to drop IB?

The pigeonhole (?) board has 240+ votes for Emerald Chase and whatever they want, but most comments are “please don’t do this right now”

Emerald Chase is flooding the Lewis meeting?

That is even more ridiculous than them flooding the Robinson meeting

There was one Emerald Chase post that got upvoted tonight surrounded by a bunch about Timberlane, Falls Hill, Hunt Valley, McLean, etc. some of you need to find a new boogeyman

It was upvoted exponentially more than any other comment. It is pretty clear what emerald chase is doing. The others had more comments but only a few upvotes. But emerald chase sounds like a raise the trees and put up tract housing kind of place, so the Astro turfing of meetings fits the community.

The timberlane community sent over 600 negative comments on the map

So these folks want to stay at McLean and Thru wants to move them. And then they want to move families at Marshall who want to stay there to McLean.

Thanks, FCPS!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

In truth, it is much easier to post links to meetings through already existing email pathways and websites than it is to create those pathways in communities that have no HOA. In a non-HOA Community that would involve door knocking, social media posting across multiple sites, getting personal contact information etc just to get to the point where a community has an email list. I understand people’s defensiveness in me pointing that out, but it isn’t “rude” to say so. It is the truth. Saying things like “we encourage all communities to participate” when many can’t organize as easily as you do is disingenuous.

I've been watching this thread because I went through this with my kids. I do live in tract housing with an HOA. Our HOA was not involved at all. However, our PTA parents became seriously engaged and formed groups to fight a change.

However, at that time, they were not taking elementary neighborhoods and splitting them as they are now. That hits closer to home. Anyone who cannot see that either has an agenda or has never had children.
I don't blame anyone who wants to keep the status quo.

Anyone who does not want to keep the status quo is likely someone who has no attachment to their current community and school.

The status quo isn't really working for Lewis, boundaries or academics. Yet nothing is being done. People on here talk about community, but Lewis really has no strong community. I would wager the neighborhoods that feed it have some of the highest private, homeschool, or pupil placement rates. Not a lot of Lewis graduate signs up right now.

Sandy Anderson stated at 2 public meetings this past week that she intends to move Rolling Valley/Key/Lewis families out of Lewis/Key and into Irving/WSHS.

So Lewis will lose around a couple dozen students

* Thru has Rolling Valley/Key/Lewis neighborhoods staying put for middle and high school, moving their split feeder to Saratoga Elementary, which is exactly the same distance from that neighborhood as Rolling Valley, eliminating the Rolling Valley split feeder and keeping all those students together through high school.

Thru's map shows 106 RV zoned Lewis students, around 15-16 per grade, so not a small number of students. Over 4 grades, that is at least 60 students potentially moving to WSHS, more once the neighborhood becomes WSHS.

Sandy Anderson says it is only 10 students per grade, which doesn't match with Thru's numbers.

Something is wrong with their numbers.

wow, really interesting. I thought Anderson's whole goal was to move more families to Lewis, not move them out of Lewis into the already over-crowded (according to her) West Springfield. Sometime back around 2015, probably when Daventry got moved, those RV families really tried to get rezoned to Irving/WS and couldn't make it happen. Geographically, they are one of the few places where it does make sense to just switch the elementary and leave them at Key/Lewis. I don't get why Anderson would support them moving to WSHS.
Rolling Valley doesn't need to lose students, though. I think they'd be at about 76% capacity if those kids go to Saratoga. And the "program capacity", which looks on the high side for RVES, is because they have a large special ed and autism program and those kids utilize a lot of space. The general grade classrooms are really dwindling. Many of the grades only have two classrooms. Even losing 10-16 kids per grade would really reduced enrollment of the core classroom grades.

Her goal seems to be move HV out of WSHS. Not sure how seeing as that is too many kids for SC schools. And she indicated Lewis is just a rumor but do we trust any of them?

They can move kids out of HV to SC, but it would create a split feeder out of HV as SCMS/HS can’t accommodate an entire new feeder elementary. Especially not one as large as HV. Also the only way to do it that wouldn’t be a lopsided split feeder would be to send almost everyone south of the parkway to SC and that’s kind of a big ask.

Also Thru’s proposals no longer have the Hagel Circle attendance island at Hayfield, so although that area is higher on the elementary students than middle/high, it does keep more students at South County than the school board’s maps had in their presentations. Something to keep in mind unless the SB’s maps are adopted in the end.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

In truth, it is much easier to post links to meetings through already existing email pathways and websites than it is to create those pathways in communities that have no HOA. In a non-HOA Community that would involve door knocking, social media posting across multiple sites, getting personal contact information etc just to get to the point where a community has an email list. I understand people’s defensiveness in me pointing that out, but it isn’t “rude” to say so. It is the truth. Saying things like “we encourage all communities to participate” when many can’t organize as easily as you do is disingenuous.

I've been watching this thread because I went through this with my kids. I do live in tract housing with an HOA. Our HOA was not involved at all. However, our PTA parents became seriously engaged and formed groups to fight a change.

However, at that time, they were not taking elementary neighborhoods and splitting them as they are now. That hits closer to home. Anyone who cannot see that either has an agenda or has never had children.
I don't blame anyone who wants to keep the status quo.

Anyone who does not want to keep the status quo is likely someone who has no attachment to their current community and school.

The status quo isn't really working for Lewis, boundaries or academics. Yet nothing is being done. People on here talk about community, but Lewis really has no strong community. I would wager the neighborhoods that feed it have some of the highest private, homeschool, or pupil placement rates. Not a lot of Lewis graduate signs up right now.

Sandy Anderson stated at 2 public meetings this past week that she intends to move Rolling Valley/Key/Lewis families out of Lewis/Key and into Irving/WSHS.

So Lewis will lose around a couple dozen students

* Thru has Rolling Valley/Key/Lewis neighborhoods staying put for middle and high school, moving their split feeder to Saratoga Elementary, which is exactly the same distance from that neighborhood as Rolling Valley, eliminating the Rolling Valley split feeder and keeping all those students together through high school.

Thru's map shows 106 RV zoned Lewis students, around 15-16 per grade, so not a small number of students. Over 4 grades, that is at least 60 students potentially moving to WSHS, more once the neighborhood becomes WSHS.

Sandy Anderson says it is only 10 students per grade, which doesn't match with Thru's numbers.

Something is wrong with their numbers.

wow, really interesting. I thought Anderson's whole goal was to move more families to Lewis, not move them out of Lewis into the already over-crowded (according to her) West Springfield. Sometime back around 2015, probably when Daventry got moved, those RV families really tried to get rezoned to Irving/WS and couldn't make it happen. Geographically, they are one of the few places where it does make sense to just switch the elementary and leave them at Key/Lewis. I don't get why Anderson would support them moving to WSHS.
Rolling Valley doesn't need to lose students, though. I think they'd be at about 76% capacity if those kids go to Saratoga. And the "program capacity", which looks on the high side for RVES, is because they have a large special ed and autism program and those kids utilize a lot of space. The general grade classrooms are really dwindling. Many of the grades only have two classrooms. Even losing 10-16 kids per grade would really reduced enrollment of the core classroom grades.

Her goal seems to be move HV out of WSHS. Not sure how seeing as that is too many kids for SC schools. And she indicated Lewis is just a rumor but do we trust any of them?

They can move kids out of HV to SC, but it would create a split feeder out of HV as SCMS/HS can’t accommodate an entire new feeder elementary. Especially not one as large as HV. Also the only way to do it that wouldn’t be a lopsided split feeder would be to send almost everyone south of the parkway to SC and that’s kind of a big ask.

Also Thru’s proposals no longer have the Hagel Circle attendance island at Hayfield, so although that area is higher on the elementary students than middle/high, it does keep more students at South County than the school board’s maps had in their presentations. Something to keep in mind unless the SB’s maps are adopted in the end.

Exactly. She said the maps were a mistake and HV is supposed to move as a school so where does she propose they all go if they don’t do a split feeder?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

In truth, it is much easier to post links to meetings through already existing email pathways and websites than it is to create those pathways in communities that have no HOA. In a non-HOA Community that would involve door knocking, social media posting across multiple sites, getting personal contact information etc just to get to the point where a community has an email list. I understand people’s defensiveness in me pointing that out, but it isn’t “rude” to say so. It is the truth. Saying things like “we encourage all communities to participate” when many can’t organize as easily as you do is disingenuous.

I've been watching this thread because I went through this with my kids. I do live in tract housing with an HOA. Our HOA was not involved at all. However, our PTA parents became seriously engaged and formed groups to fight a change.

However, at that time, they were not taking elementary neighborhoods and splitting them as they are now. That hits closer to home. Anyone who cannot see that either has an agenda or has never had children.
I don't blame anyone who wants to keep the status quo.

Anyone who does not want to keep the status quo is likely someone who has no attachment to their current community and school.

The status quo isn't really working for Lewis, boundaries or academics. Yet nothing is being done. People on here talk about community, but Lewis really has no strong community. I would wager the neighborhoods that feed it have some of the highest private, homeschool, or pupil placement rates. Not a lot of Lewis graduate signs up right now.

Sandy Anderson stated at 2 public meetings this past week that she intends to move Rolling Valley/Key/Lewis families out of Lewis/Key and into Irving/WSHS.

So Lewis will lose around a couple dozen students

* Thru has Rolling Valley/Key/Lewis neighborhoods staying put for middle and high school, moving their split feeder to Saratoga Elementary, which is exactly the same distance from that neighborhood as Rolling Valley, eliminating the Rolling Valley split feeder and keeping all those students together through high school.

Thru's map shows 106 RV zoned Lewis students, around 15-16 per grade, so not a small number of students. Over 4 grades, that is at least 60 students potentially moving to WSHS, more once the neighborhood becomes WSHS.

Sandy Anderson says it is only 10 students per grade, which doesn't match with Thru's numbers.

Something is wrong with their numbers.

wow, really interesting. I thought Anderson's whole goal was to move more families to Lewis, not move them out of Lewis into the already over-crowded (according to her) West Springfield. Sometime back around 2015, probably when Daventry got moved, those RV families really tried to get rezoned to Irving/WS and couldn't make it happen. Geographically, they are one of the few places where it does make sense to just switch the elementary and leave them at Key/Lewis. I don't get why Anderson would support them moving to WSHS.
Rolling Valley doesn't need to lose students, though. I think they'd be at about 76% capacity if those kids go to Saratoga. And the "program capacity", which looks on the high side for RVES, is because they have a large special ed and autism program and those kids utilize a lot of space. The general grade classrooms are really dwindling. Many of the grades only have two classrooms. Even losing 10-16 kids per grade would really reduced enrollment of the core classroom grades.

Her goal seems to be move HV out of WSHS. Not sure how seeing as that is too many kids for SC schools. And she indicated Lewis is just a rumor but do we trust any of them?

She has told constituents that Lewis is just a rumor.

I wonder if what will happen in the end will be that entire neighborhood between Gambrill and Hooes that currently goes to Sangster on one side and Hunt Valley on the other, will be completely rezoned to Newington Forest/SoCo, all of Rolling Valley moved from Key and Lewis to Irving and West Springfield, and the rest of Hunt Valley including the other side of Gambrill, stays at Hunt Valley/Irving/WSHS. That would still be very unpopular, but I could see Anderson splitting the baby in half, so to speak.

From her public posts so far, she does not appesr to be very inclined to support the Hunt Valley community already at WSHS. They are a large voting constituency, but do not appear to be a priority at this point.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

In truth, it is much easier to post links to meetings through already existing email pathways and websites than it is to create those pathways in communities that have no HOA. In a non-HOA Community that would involve door knocking, social media posting across multiple sites, getting personal contact information etc just to get to the point where a community has an email list. I understand people’s defensiveness in me pointing that out, but it isn’t “rude” to say so. It is the truth. Saying things like “we encourage all communities to participate” when many can’t organize as easily as you do is disingenuous.

I've been watching this thread because I went through this with my kids. I do live in tract housing with an HOA. Our HOA was not involved at all. However, our PTA parents became seriously engaged and formed groups to fight a change.

However, at that time, they were not taking elementary neighborhoods and splitting them as they are now. That hits closer to home. Anyone who cannot see that either has an agenda or has never had children.
I don't blame anyone who wants to keep the status quo.

Anyone who does not want to keep the status quo is likely someone who has no attachment to their current community and school.

The status quo isn't really working for Lewis, boundaries or academics. Yet nothing is being done. People on here talk about community, but Lewis really has no strong community. I would wager the neighborhoods that feed it have some of the highest private, homeschool, or pupil placement rates. Not a lot of Lewis graduate signs up right now.

Sandy Anderson stated at 2 public meetings this past week that she intends to move Rolling Valley/Key/Lewis families out of Lewis/Key and into Irving/WSHS.

So Lewis will lose around a couple dozen students

* Thru has Rolling Valley/Key/Lewis neighborhoods staying put for middle and high school, moving their split feeder to Saratoga Elementary, which is exactly the same distance from that neighborhood as Rolling Valley, eliminating the Rolling Valley split feeder and keeping all those students together through high school.

Thru's map shows 106 RV zoned Lewis students, around 15-16 per grade, so not a small number of students. Over 4 grades, that is at least 60 students potentially moving to WSHS, more once the neighborhood becomes WSHS.

Sandy Anderson says it is only 10 students per grade, which doesn't match with Thru's numbers.

Something is wrong with their numbers.

wow, really interesting. I thought Anderson's whole goal was to move more families to Lewis, not move them out of Lewis into the already over-crowded (according to her) West Springfield. Sometime back around 2015, probably when Daventry got moved, those RV families really tried to get rezoned to Irving/WS and couldn't make it happen. Geographically, they are one of the few places where it does make sense to just switch the elementary and leave them at Key/Lewis. I don't get why Anderson would support them moving to WSHS.
Rolling Valley doesn't need to lose students, though. I think they'd be at about 76% capacity if those kids go to Saratoga. And the "program capacity", which looks on the high side for RVES, is because they have a large special ed and autism program and those kids utilize a lot of space. The general grade classrooms are really dwindling. Many of the grades only have two classrooms. Even losing 10-16 kids per grade would really reduced enrollment of the core classroom grades.

Her goal seems to be move HV out of WSHS. Not sure how seeing as that is too many kids for SC schools. And she indicated Lewis is just a rumor but do we trust any of them?

They can move kids out of HV to SC, but it would create a split feeder out of HV as SCMS/HS can’t accommodate an entire new feeder elementary. Especially not one as large as HV. Also the only way to do it that wouldn’t be a lopsided split feeder would be to send almost everyone south of the parkway to SC and that’s kind of a big ask.

Also Thru’s proposals no longer have the Hagel Circle attendance island at Hayfield, so although that area is higher on the elementary students than middle/high, it does keep more students at South County than the school board’s maps had in their presentations. Something to keep in mind unless the SB’s maps are adopted in the end.

Exactly. She said the maps were a mistake and HV is supposed to move as a school so where does she propose they all go if they don’t do a split feeder?

Lewis. It’s coming.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I understand their desire to make demographics more balanced. However, in order to do that, you would have to have extensive busing crisscrossing Fairfax County.
That would be awful.

Demographics are not a factor for this review. Policy 8130 has the factors.

Do you not know how to read between the lines?

I am not on board with the conspiracy theorists.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

In truth, it is much easier to post links to meetings through already existing email pathways and websites than it is to create those pathways in communities that have no HOA. In a non-HOA Community that would involve door knocking, social media posting across multiple sites, getting personal contact information etc just to get to the point where a community has an email list. I understand people’s defensiveness in me pointing that out, but it isn’t “rude” to say so. It is the truth. Saying things like “we encourage all communities to participate” when many can’t organize as easily as you do is disingenuous.

I've been watching this thread because I went through this with my kids. I do live in tract housing with an HOA. Our HOA was not involved at all. However, our PTA parents became seriously engaged and formed groups to fight a change.

However, at that time, they were not taking elementary neighborhoods and splitting them as they are now. That hits closer to home. Anyone who cannot see that either has an agenda or has never had children.
I don't blame anyone who wants to keep the status quo.

Anyone who does not want to keep the status quo is likely someone who has no attachment to their current community and school.

The status quo isn't really working for Lewis, boundaries or academics. Yet nothing is being done. People on here talk about community, but Lewis really has no strong community. I would wager the neighborhoods that feed it have some of the highest private, homeschool, or pupil placement rates. Not a lot of Lewis graduate signs up right now.

Sandy Anderson stated at 2 public meetings this past week that she intends to move Rolling Valley/Key/Lewis families out of Lewis/Key and into Irving/WSHS.

So Lewis will lose around a couple dozen students

* Thru has Rolling Valley/Key/Lewis neighborhoods staying put for middle and high school, moving their split feeder to Saratoga Elementary, which is exactly the same distance from that neighborhood as Rolling Valley, eliminating the Rolling Valley split feeder and keeping all those students together through high school.

Thru's map shows 106 RV zoned Lewis students, around 15-16 per grade, so not a small number of students. Over 4 grades, that is at least 60 students potentially moving to WSHS, more once the neighborhood becomes WSHS.

Sandy Anderson says it is only 10 students per grade, which doesn't match with Thru's numbers.

Something is wrong with their numbers.

wow, really interesting. I thought Anderson's whole goal was to move more families to Lewis, not move them out of Lewis into the already over-crowded (according to her) West Springfield. Sometime back around 2015, probably when Daventry got moved, those RV families really tried to get rezoned to Irving/WS and couldn't make it happen. Geographically, they are one of the few places where it does make sense to just switch the elementary and leave them at Key/Lewis. I don't get why Anderson would support them moving to WSHS.
Rolling Valley doesn't need to lose students, though. I think they'd be at about 76% capacity if those kids go to Saratoga. And the "program capacity", which looks on the high side for RVES, is because they have a large special ed and autism program and those kids utilize a lot of space. The general grade classrooms are really dwindling. Many of the grades only have two classrooms. Even losing 10-16 kids per grade would really reduced enrollment of the core classroom grades.

Her goal seems to be move HV out of WSHS. Not sure how seeing as that is too many kids for SC schools. And she indicated Lewis is just a rumor but do we trust any of them?

They can move kids out of HV to SC, but it would create a split feeder out of HV as SCMS/HS can’t accommodate an entire new feeder elementary. Especially not one as large as HV. Also the only way to do it that wouldn’t be a lopsided split feeder would be to send almost everyone south of the parkway to SC and that’s kind of a big ask.

Also Thru’s proposals no longer have the Hagel Circle attendance island at Hayfield, so although that area is higher on the elementary students than middle/high, it does keep more students at South County than the school board’s maps had in their presentations. Something to keep in mind unless the SB’s maps are adopted in the end.

Exactly. She said the maps were a mistake and HV is supposed to move as a school so where does she propose they all go if they don’t do a split feeder?

Lewis. It’s coming.

But it was never even put forth as a proposal in any of the maps. Not from the SB/BRAC in the meeting PDFs, not from Thru in their maps. It has just never materialized as a possibility. I mean … they could technically spring anything on us at any time, but some/all of HVES to Lewis at this point would be a massive change out of left field.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

In truth, it is much easier to post links to meetings through already existing email pathways and websites than it is to create those pathways in communities that have no HOA. In a non-HOA Community that would involve door knocking, social media posting across multiple sites, getting personal contact information etc just to get to the point where a community has an email list. I understand people’s defensiveness in me pointing that out, but it isn’t “rude” to say so. It is the truth. Saying things like “we encourage all communities to participate” when many can’t organize as easily as you do is disingenuous.

I've been watching this thread because I went through this with my kids. I do live in tract housing with an HOA. Our HOA was not involved at all. However, our PTA parents became seriously engaged and formed groups to fight a change.

However, at that time, they were not taking elementary neighborhoods and splitting them as they are now. That hits closer to home. Anyone who cannot see that either has an agenda or has never had children.
I don't blame anyone who wants to keep the status quo.

Anyone who does not want to keep the status quo is likely someone who has no attachment to their current community and school.

The status quo isn't really working for Lewis, boundaries or academics. Yet nothing is being done. People on here talk about community, but Lewis really has no strong community. I would wager the neighborhoods that feed it have some of the highest private, homeschool, or pupil placement rates. Not a lot of Lewis graduate signs up right now.

Sandy Anderson stated at 2 public meetings this past week that she intends to move Rolling Valley/Key/Lewis families out of Lewis/Key and into Irving/WSHS.

So Lewis will lose around a couple dozen students

* Thru has Rolling Valley/Key/Lewis neighborhoods staying put for middle and high school, moving their split feeder to Saratoga Elementary, which is exactly the same distance from that neighborhood as Rolling Valley, eliminating the Rolling Valley split feeder and keeping all those students together through high school.

Thru's map shows 106 RV zoned Lewis students, around 15-16 per grade, so not a small number of students. Over 4 grades, that is at least 60 students potentially moving to WSHS, more once the neighborhood becomes WSHS.

Sandy Anderson says it is only 10 students per grade, which doesn't match with Thru's numbers.

Something is wrong with their numbers.

wow, really interesting. I thought Anderson's whole goal was to move more families to Lewis, not move them out of Lewis into the already over-crowded (according to her) West Springfield. Sometime back around 2015, probably when Daventry got moved, those RV families really tried to get rezoned to Irving/WS and couldn't make it happen. Geographically, they are one of the few places where it does make sense to just switch the elementary and leave them at Key/Lewis. I don't get why Anderson would support them moving to WSHS.
Rolling Valley doesn't need to lose students, though. I think they'd be at about 76% capacity if those kids go to Saratoga. And the "program capacity", which looks on the high side for RVES, is because they have a large special ed and autism program and those kids utilize a lot of space. The general grade classrooms are really dwindling. Many of the grades only have two classrooms. Even losing 10-16 kids per grade would really reduced enrollment of the core classroom grades.

Her goal seems to be move HV out of WSHS. Not sure how seeing as that is too many kids for SC schools. And she indicated Lewis is just a rumor but do we trust any of them?

They can move kids out of HV to SC, but it would create a split feeder out of HV as SCMS/HS can’t accommodate an entire new feeder elementary. Especially not one as large as HV. Also the only way to do it that wouldn’t be a lopsided split feeder would be to send almost everyone south of the parkway to SC and that’s kind of a big ask.

Also Thru’s proposals no longer have the Hagel Circle attendance island at Hayfield, so although that area is higher on the elementary students than middle/high, it does keep more students at South County than the school board’s maps had in their presentations. Something to keep in mind unless the SB’s maps are adopted in the end.

Exactly. She said the maps were a mistake and HV is supposed to move as a school so where does she propose they all go if they don’t do a split feeder?

Lewis. It’s coming.

Agree.

They haven't moved anyone into Lewis.

They have moved neighborhoods out, though.

Right now, Hunt Valley is too large to move to Lewis, just like it is too large to move to South County.

If Sandy Anderson moves the Rolling Valley to WSHS, that removes around 50 to 60 students From Lewis to WSHS. That move might be just enough to move Hunt Valley to Lewis an put Lewis just over capacity. With the original RV Lewis kids staying at Lewis, there is no room for hunt valley.

If that happens, it will be ironic because Sandy Anderson has also stated in public meetings that she won't support moving Daventry back to Lewis because of mixing bowl traffic. Hunt Valley is the farthest WSHS neighborhood from Lewis, and would also have to cross the mixing bowl. They are farther from Lewis than RV and much farther than Daventry.