Meghan Markle and Prince Harry News and Updates Part 3

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Anonymous wrote:I am new to this thread. Can someone please explain to my why they are insisting Americans call them by their British titles? We're not part of the Commonwealth. It doesn't matter here, we don't care. Am I missing something?

Without their titles what are they, really? And if Harry were not a prince does anyone really think Meghan would have given him the time of day?
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Anonymous wrote:Weirdly enough I was thinking about this last night...in the context of the Cambridges. W+K are rudderless and have no real activities to call their own. I was thinking they could make COVID their cause celebre. Just like George + Elizabeth (the royals they're trying to emulate) had WWII + rebuilding Britain.

But ummm...H+M seem to be getting there first. And she's what? 7 months...pregnant.


Is Meghan organizing this?


She and Prince Harry are the campaign co-chairs for corporate donations.

Prince Harry and Meghan, the Duke and Duchess of Sussex, will serve as campaign chairs of VAX LIVE, encouraging the private sector to make donations to COVAX, the vaccine pillar of the ACT-Accelerator, to ensure everyone, everywhere can access COVID-19 vaccines.

“Over the past year, our world has experienced pain, loss, and struggle — together. Now we need to recover and heal — together,” said Prince Harry and Meghan, the Duke and Duchess of Sussex.

“We can’t leave anybody behind. We will all benefit, we will all be safer, when everyone, everywhere has equal access to the vaccine. We must pursue equitable vaccine distribution, and in that, restore faith in our common humanity. This mission couldn’t be more critical or important.”

So they just issued a statement and...?


And the concert with global celebrity + White House participation will be in two weeks. I suspect they're hoping to raise the same amount of money that huge events like the 80s Live Aid concerts did.

A worthy cause.

But they didn’t organize this from the ground up, did they?
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Charles cut off their security because they're no longer working members of the BRF. "Working members of the BRF" are the only group of people who get BRF-funded security. Harry and Meghan quit to establish financial independence, which should allow them to pay for their own.

Also, it's unclear why you're assuming Charles wanted them back as working members of the family. There are several stories out there, going back years, indicating that both Harry and Meghan were incredibly difficult and self-centered (delusionally so, in the hierarchical structure of the BRF). The British public doesn't like her much either. I'm sure Charles has personal affection for them in their capacity as his son and DIL, but professionally, the BRF was probably glad to see them leave.



There are so many things wrong here but your basic premise is faulty to start with.

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Anonymous wrote:Weirdly enough I was thinking about this last night...in the context of the Cambridges. W+K are rudderless and have no real activities to call their own. I was thinking they could make COVID their cause celebre. Just like George + Elizabeth (the royals they're trying to emulate) had WWII + rebuilding Britain.

But ummm...H+M seem to be getting there first. And she's what? 7 months...pregnant.


Is Meghan organizing this?


She and Prince Harry are the campaign co-chairs for corporate donations.

Prince Harry and Meghan, the Duke and Duchess of Sussex, will serve as campaign chairs of VAX LIVE, encouraging the private sector to make donations to COVAX, the vaccine pillar of the ACT-Accelerator, to ensure everyone, everywhere can access COVID-19 vaccines.

“Over the past year, our world has experienced pain, loss, and struggle — together. Now we need to recover and heal — together,” said Prince Harry and Meghan, the Duke and Duchess of Sussex.

“We can’t leave anybody behind. We will all benefit, we will all be safer, when everyone, everywhere has equal access to the vaccine. We must pursue equitable vaccine distribution, and in that, restore faith in our common humanity. This mission couldn’t be more critical or important.”

So they just issued a statement and...?


And the concert with global celebrity + White House participation will be in two weeks. I suspect they're hoping to raise the same amount of money that huge events like the 80s Live Aid concerts did.

A worthy cause.

But they didn’t organize this from the ground up, did they?


I wasn't aware that was required?
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Anonymous wrote:Does anyone else find it interesting that they still use their titles, are upset that Archie wasn't made a prince, and yet cry about how toxic the whole family is? Seems a bit hypocritical.


Titles are his, by birth. No less his than any of the other made up titles they honor.


I understand that's why he still HAS titles. What I am asking is why are they still using them publicly if they despirse so much the institution the titles represent.

H&M: "The BRF is toxic and racist and hates us."
Also H&M: "Please call us by our BRF titles at all times."


Again, cause they're his. May have associations that tie to his identity, despite the flawed system. Not my decision to judge. Or yours.


It reeks of insincerity and childish tantrums.


Agreed. It was childish of Charles to cut off their security. It was insincere power move that massively backfired. Charles miscalculated that if he pulled their security it would force them back under whatever terms he dictated.

Boy did end up being immature and tone deaf.


Agreed. The BRF gambled but they were dealing with a new Harry. Whatever happens with them as a couple, I'm glad that he's grown into himself as a man. I think his Mom would be proud.


Its interesting how well Harry has come out in all of this. His popularity is as high as ever - probably because the public sees he has balls? He's a loyal and faithful husband. He also has a 'normal' job like the public.

What “normal” job does he have?
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Anonymous wrote:Weirdly enough I was thinking about this last night...in the context of the Cambridges. W+K are rudderless and have no real activities to call their own. I was thinking they could make COVID their cause celebre. Just like George + Elizabeth (the royals they're trying to emulate) had WWII + rebuilding Britain.

But ummm...H+M seem to be getting there first. And she's what? 7 months...pregnant.


Is Meghan organizing this?


She and Prince Harry are the campaign co-chairs for corporate donations.

Prince Harry and Meghan, the Duke and Duchess of Sussex, will serve as campaign chairs of VAX LIVE, encouraging the private sector to make donations to COVAX, the vaccine pillar of the ACT-Accelerator, to ensure everyone, everywhere can access COVID-19 vaccines.

“Over the past year, our world has experienced pain, loss, and struggle — together. Now we need to recover and heal — together,” said Prince Harry and Meghan, the Duke and Duchess of Sussex.

“We can’t leave anybody behind. We will all benefit, we will all be safer, when everyone, everywhere has equal access to the vaccine. We must pursue equitable vaccine distribution, and in that, restore faith in our common humanity. This mission couldn’t be more critical or important.”

So they just issued a statement and...?


And the concert with global celebrity + White House participation will be in two weeks. I suspect they're hoping to raise the same amount of money that huge events like the 80s Live Aid concerts did.

A worthy cause.

But they didn’t organize this from the ground up, did they?


I wasn't aware that was required?

If people are praising them for working SO hard, then one would assume they were doing a tad more than just being figureheads. Or royals who just show up to cut ribbons.
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Anonymous wrote:Does anyone else find it interesting that they still use their titles, are upset that Archie wasn't made a prince, and yet cry about how toxic the whole family is? Seems a bit hypocritical.


Titles are his, by birth. No less his than any of the other made up titles they honor.


I understand that's why he still HAS titles. What I am asking is why are they still using them publicly if they despirse so much the institution the titles represent.

H&M: "The BRF is toxic and racist and hates us."
Also H&M: "Please call us by our BRF titles at all times."


Again, cause they're his. May have associations that tie to his identity, despite the flawed system. Not my decision to judge. Or yours.


It reeks of insincerity and childish tantrums.


Agreed. It was childish of Charles to cut off their security. It was insincere power move that massively backfired. Charles miscalculated that if he pulled their security it would force them back under whatever terms he dictated.

Boy did end up being immature and tone deaf.


Agreed. The BRF gambled but they were dealing with a new Harry. Whatever happens with them as a couple, I'm glad that he's grown into himself as a man. I think his Mom would be proud.


Its interesting how well Harry has come out in all of this. His popularity is as high as ever - probably because the public sees he has balls? He's a loyal and faithful husband. He also has a 'normal' job like the public.

What “normal” job does he have?


It even comes with stock options.

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Anonymous wrote:I just wanted to add, I do not find dignity in silence. I find dignity in truth, sincerity and honesty. If H&M felt this interview was necessary to shine a light on the problem of racism that exists within not just the BRF, the press, etc but the UK as a whole, well: good for them.

Complaining is when you stay within the system, reap its benefits and yet hold resentment and speak on it often (some of you married ladies can relate). H&M are not complainers, IMO. They said their piece. Now, moving on to boss moves and philanthropy (cause, if you're Royal, at least be of some benefit and do that)...


Except they did not shine a light. No individual was mentioned as the perpetrator of this "racism" and the claim has been angrily and vehemently rebutted by Prince William. End of story.



And the claim was hearsay- Meghan said that Harry said that someone speculated about the color of the baby’s skin. Meghan wasn’t there- she has no idea what was actually said, what the context was or whether this actually happened or not. Given that she outright lied about her wedding and twisted the reasoning for Archie’s not getting a title he wasn’t entitled to in this same interview, I’m not sure how much weight her claim carries. While we can all speculate whether racism exists in the BRF, we know for a fact that Harry is just as guilty (if not more) of having a racist past as some of his relatives. We’ve never seen William in a nazi costume or refer to Middle Easterners as ragheads. These two just keep looking more and more hypocritical.


Funny you mention that party because William was there with Harry. Except he was in blackface. Of course, back then the deal with the royal Rota was that they could publish drunk pictures of Harry as long as they cropped William out.

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Anonymous wrote:Weirdly enough I was thinking about this last night...in the context of the Cambridges. W+K are rudderless and have no real activities to call their own. I was thinking they could make COVID their cause celebre. Just like George + Elizabeth (the royals they're trying to emulate) had WWII + rebuilding Britain.

But ummm...H+M seem to be getting there first. And she's what? 7 months...pregnant.


Is Meghan organizing this?


She and Prince Harry are the campaign co-chairs for corporate donations.

Prince Harry and Meghan, the Duke and Duchess of Sussex, will serve as campaign chairs of VAX LIVE, encouraging the private sector to make donations to COVAX, the vaccine pillar of the ACT-Accelerator, to ensure everyone, everywhere can access COVID-19 vaccines.

“Over the past year, our world has experienced pain, loss, and struggle — together. Now we need to recover and heal — together,” said Prince Harry and Meghan, the Duke and Duchess of Sussex.

“We can’t leave anybody behind. We will all benefit, we will all be safer, when everyone, everywhere has equal access to the vaccine. We must pursue equitable vaccine distribution, and in that, restore faith in our common humanity. This mission couldn’t be more critical or important.”

So they just issued a statement and...?


And the concert with global celebrity + White House participation will be in two weeks. I suspect they're hoping to raise the same amount of money that huge events like the 80s Live Aid concerts did.

A worthy cause.

But they didn’t organize this from the ground up, did they?


I wasn't aware that was required?

If people are praising them for working SO hard, then one would assume they were doing a tad more than just being figureheads. Or royals who just show up to cut ribbons.


Patience grasshopper. The fun thing about Harry + Meghan leading their own foundation now is that there's no palace to say 'no more 5am emails, we're slacking over here not working'!

The connections they're making and the projects they have in motion...I can see them being on leading stages in 2022. Just in time for baby #2 to turn 6 months old.
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Anonymous wrote:I just wanted to add, I do not find dignity in silence. I find dignity in truth, sincerity and honesty. If H&M felt this interview was necessary to shine a light on the problem of racism that exists within not just the BRF, the press, etc but the UK as a whole, well: good for them.

Complaining is when you stay within the system, reap its benefits and yet hold resentment and speak on it often (some of you married ladies can relate). H&M are not complainers, IMO. They said their piece. Now, moving on to boss moves and philanthropy (cause, if you're Royal, at least be of some benefit and do that)...


Except they did not shine a light. No individual was mentioned as the perpetrator of this "racism" and the claim has been angrily and vehemently rebutted by Prince William. End of story.



And the claim was hearsay- Meghan said that Harry said that someone speculated about the color of the baby’s skin. Meghan wasn’t there- she has no idea what was actually said, what the context was or whether this actually happened or not. Given that she outright lied about her wedding and twisted the reasoning for Archie’s not getting a title he wasn’t entitled to in this same interview, I’m not sure how much weight her claim carries. While we can all speculate whether racism exists in the BRF, we know for a fact that Harry is just as guilty (if not more) of having a racist past as some of his relatives. We’ve never seen William in a nazi costume or refer to Middle Easterners as ragheads. These two just keep looking more and more hypocritical.


At the same party where Harry wore the Nazi costume, William was dressed as a Zulu warrior. Later the press changed it to “an animal costume” because it featured leopard pelts and doubled down focusing on Harry. Because that’s the way it’s always been: sacrifice the spare and focus on his antics to protect the heir. The theme of the party was colonials and natives. 🙄

But I don’t hold that against either of them because I know that people can grow and change a lot in 17 years.

And when I have Harry and Megan insisted that people use their titles? I follow the Royals and I have seen several times people mention that they just want to be called Harry and Megan. If people use their titles, how do you know they’re insisting? Do you have any proof? If you were being honest, you would probably admit that if they start using your titles you blast them for that disrespect too. But you aren’t so you won’t.
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*if they stopped using their titles, you’d blast them for that and call them disrespectful. They can’t win with you.
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Anonymous wrote:Does anyone else find it interesting that they still use their titles, are upset that Archie wasn't made a prince, and yet cry about how toxic the whole family is? Seems a bit hypocritical.


Titles are his, by birth. No less his than any of the other made up titles they honor.


I understand that's why he still HAS titles. What I am asking is why are they still using them publicly if they despirse so much the institution the titles represent.

H&M: "The BRF is toxic and racist and hates us."
Also H&M: "Please call us by our BRF titles at all times."


Again, cause they're his. May have associations that tie to his identity, despite the flawed system. Not my decision to judge. Or yours.


It reeks of insincerity and childish tantrums.


Agreed. It was childish of Charles to cut off their security. It was insincere power move that massively backfired. Charles miscalculated that if he pulled their security it would force them back under whatever terms he dictated.

Boy did end up being immature and tone deaf.


Agreed. The BRF gambled but they were dealing with a new Harry. Whatever happens with them as a couple, I'm glad that he's grown into himself as a man. I think his Mom would be proud.


They aren’t dealing with Harry at all. Everyone can see this.


You would have a point if I'd said "are". I didn't...
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Anonymous wrote:Does anyone else find it interesting that they still use their titles, are upset that Archie wasn't made a prince, and yet cry about how toxic the whole family is? Seems a bit hypocritical.


Titles are his, by birth. No less his than any of the other made up titles they honor.


I understand that's why he still HAS titles. What I am asking is why are they still using them publicly if they despirse so much the institution the titles represent.

H&M: "The BRF is toxic and racist and hates us."
Also H&M: "Please call us by our BRF titles at all times."


Again, cause they're his. May have associations that tie to his identity, despite the flawed system. Not my decision to judge. Or yours.


It reeks of insincerity and childish tantrums.


Agreed. It was childish of Charles to cut off their security. It was insincere power move that massively backfired. Charles miscalculated that if he pulled their security it would force them back under whatever terms he dictated.

Boy did end up being immature and tone deaf.


Agreed. The BRF gambled but they were dealing with a new Harry. Whatever happens with them as a couple, I'm glad that he's grown into himself as a man. I think his Mom would be proud.


Its interesting how well Harry has come out in all of this. His popularity is as high as ever - probably because the public sees he has balls? He's a loyal and faithful husband. He also has a 'normal' job like the public.

What “normal” job does he have?


It even comes with stock options.


Aha! Just like John Q Public then .
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Anonymous wrote:*if they stopped using their titles, you’d blast them for that and call them disrespectful. They can’t win with you.

Actually we would praise them for walking the walk. Bring independent and all that. Why won’t they do it?
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Anonymous wrote:Does anyone else find it interesting that they still use their titles, are upset that Archie wasn't made a prince, and yet cry about how toxic the whole family is? Seems a bit hypocritical.


Titles are his, by birth. No less his than any of the other made up titles they honor.


I understand that's why he still HAS titles. What I am asking is why are they still using them publicly if they despirse so much the institution the titles represent.

H&M: "The BRF is toxic and racist and hates us."
Also H&M: "Please call us by our BRF titles at all times."


Again, cause they're his. May have associations that tie to his identity, despite the flawed system. Not my decision to judge. Or yours.


It reeks of insincerity and childish tantrums.


Agreed. It was childish of Charles to cut off their security. It was insincere power move that massively backfired. Charles miscalculated that if he pulled their security it would force them back under whatever terms he dictated.

Boy did end up being immature and tone deaf.


Agreed. The BRF gambled but they were dealing with a new Harry. Whatever happens with them as a couple, I'm glad that he's grown into himself as a man. I think his Mom would be proud.


Its interesting how well Harry has come out in all of this. His popularity is as high as ever - probably because the public sees he has balls? He's a loyal and faithful husband. He also has a 'normal' job like the public.


He almost let his wife commit suicide because he was too embarrassed to get her help. He admitted this himself! You have incredibly low standards for what constitutes a loyal husband.
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