What is the wildest conspiracy theory you actually believe?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:9/11 - but specifically the plane hitting the Pentagon.

lack of video evidence and witness evidence which is just very weird

it's only something you would recall if you were 1) paying attention to the local DC news coverage on that day and the days after 2) were familiar with that area and the traffic patterns during that time of day in general

I mean I don't doubt something hit it but maybe it wasn't that plane and sadly that plane ended up crashed elsewhere or disappeared much like that Indonesian flight? Keeping in mind that until then we had never even entertained that a flight could be lost without a trace.

My close family member worked in the Pentagon where the plane hit. It was so terrifying, they quit their job.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:McConnell actually rigged the election against Trump. He wanted Trump to lose because he couldn't control him.

BS. You cannot rig an election of this magnitude. Not even The Turtle.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:EVERYTHING about COVID has been distorted and politicized. The severity the number of deaths who has it who has had it where it came from ... everything.

PP here: I didn’t say Covid wasn’t a serious illness fir some people. Deadly for some people. But that EVERYTHING about it has been distorted. Who had it? How many cases that were mild? How many people who were very old and weakened ? How many outliers were there? That is people who were surprisingly more sick than expected. There are 340M+ people in the US but each case is treated by the news as if it represents everyone. I know so many people including myself who had it mildly early on.

I agree with this. I know it can be horrific for many (I have a colleague who was sick for 5 weeks and still isn’t fully recovered). I know it can be deadly (I have an uncle who died of Covid). But I also think it’s be highly politicized and exaggerated by the media. I think many of the lockdowns were unnecessary. I live OOS and our school went back in person mid-August. We’ve had a total of 6 cases (all recovered) between students and faculty. I’m not sure if the long-term damage socially and educationally to millions of students was necessary.

[Anonymous]

Sirhan Sirhan didn’t kill Bobby Kennedy. His, like his brother’s assassination was a plot by the mafia, CIA, and FBI as payback for a number of supposed betrayals.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:COVID-19 was a natural bat virus being studied at the Wuhan Institute of Virology and crappy safety protocols let it out. The Chinese knew about it for the whole fall of 2019 and covered it up.

They are now seeing evidence of COVID in blood that was donated in the fall of 2019 in the US.

Link?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Conspiracy theories are put out there/encouraged to distract us from the many (blatant) ways we are screwed over by the government and rich powerful people.

+1

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:EVERYTHING about COVID has been distorted and politicized. The severity the number of deaths who has it who has had it where it came from ... everything.

PP here: I didn’t say Covid wasn’t a serious illness fir some people. Deadly for some people. But that EVERYTHING about it has been distorted. Who had it? How many cases that were mild? How many people who were very old and weakened ? How many outliers were there? That is people who were surprisingly more sick than expected. There are 340M+ people in the US but each case is treated by the news as if it represents everyone. I know so many people including myself who had it mildly early on.

I agree with this. I know it can be horrific for many (I have a colleague who was sick for 5 weeks and still isn’t fully recovered). I know it can be deadly (I have an uncle who died of Covid). But I also think it’s be highly politicized and exaggerated by the media. I think many of the lockdowns were unnecessary. I live OOS and our school went back in person mid-August. We’ve had a total of 6 cases (all recovered) between students and faculty. I’m not sure if the long-term damage socially and educationally to millions of students was necessary.

This is a modified version of the Y2K fallacy. Had we not disrupted society, the numbers would have been *exponentially* worse, because that's how it works. That said, had we *really* shut things down and paid people to stay at home in a consistent, thorough way, sent out free masks, not pushed any form of COVID denialism like the above-- things would have been exponentially *better* and we could have spent most of the past 7-8 months living at least somewhat more freely (w/masks) than we did. We really ended up with the near-worst of both worlds.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:EVERYTHING about COVID has been distorted and politicized. The severity the number of deaths who has it who has had it where it came from ... everything.

PP here: I didn’t say Covid wasn’t a serious illness fir some people. Deadly for some people. But that EVERYTHING about it has been distorted. Who had it? How many cases that were mild? How many people who were very old and weakened ? How many outliers were there? That is people who were surprisingly more sick than expected. There are 340M+ people in the US but each case is treated by the news as if it represents everyone. I know so many people including myself who had it mildly early on.

I agree with this. I know it can be horrific for many (I have a colleague who was sick for 5 weeks and still isn’t fully recovered). I know it can be deadly (I have an uncle who died of Covid). But I also think it’s be highly politicized and exaggerated by the media. I think many of the lockdowns were unnecessary. I live OOS and our school went back in person mid-August. We’ve had a total of 6 cases (all recovered) between students and faculty. I’m not sure if the long-term damage socially and educationally to millions of students was necessary.

This is a modified version of the Y2K fallacy. Had we not disrupted society, the numbers would have been *exponentially* worse, because that's how it works. That said, had we *really* shut things down and paid people to stay at home in a consistent, thorough way, sent out free masks, not pushed any form of COVID denialism like the above-- things would have been exponentially *better* and we could have spent most of the past 7-8 months living at least somewhat more freely (w/masks) than we did. We really ended up with the near-worst of both worlds.

Adding to this, it's been AWFUL and we all hate it. So we imagine it could only possibly have been better if we had done nothing. It's hard to imagine it worse, but yes, it would have been much worse.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:McConnell actually rigged the election against Trump. He wanted Trump to lose because he couldn't control him.

BS. You cannot rig an election of this magnitude. Not even The Turtle.

Sure you can. They who control the machines and programming the "count" the votes control the world.
(I don't believe the actual McConnell theory but I have done enough digging about Dominion to know that there are enough political ties to these machines and their implementation in certain counties to be naive enough to think it can't be done. Absolutely it can. Was it? Who knows. I just don't subscribe to the McConnell theory.)

[Anonymous]

Not sure it's something I "believe" in terms of what it means and what the origins are, but I've recently been made aware of the importance of the number 33 to freemasons and the frequency with which this number is used and appears in media. And it's fascinating.

The rank of 33rd degree mason is a very important rank within freemasonry. Interesting that Walt Disney's club inside Disneyland called Club 33. Open a page on cnn.com on any given day and there are "33 new deaths" or "33,000 new unemployment claims" or "Bitcoin share valued at $33,300" or deaths soaring above 333,000 (why not above 332,000?). It's just there all the time. And extending this to a bat-sh*% crazy level of observation, the address of nashville bombing location of 333 Commerce St. What an insane rabbit hole that won't stop.

No idea what it means and most likely means nothing at all. Except does it? It's literally everywhere and bizarre.

Have fun trying to un-see this! It's hard not to notice.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We knew Pearl Harbor was going to be bombed.

This isn't a theory.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:9/11 - but specifically the plane hitting the Pentagon.

lack of video evidence and witness evidence which is just very weird

it's only something you would recall if you were 1) paying attention to the local DC news coverage on that day and the days after 2) were familiar with that area and the traffic patterns during that time of day in general

I mean I don't doubt something hit it but maybe it wasn't that plane and sadly that plane ended up crashed elsewhere or disappeared much like that Indonesian flight? Keeping in mind that until then we had never even entertained that a flight could be lost without a trace.

My close family member worked in the Pentagon where the plane hit. It was so terrifying, they quit their job.

NP (not the one from this post who suggested in might not be a plane), but I don't think the PP was suggesting that the Pentagon wasn't hit by something that made a severe impact, shook the building, made a huge hole and caused an explosion and fire or that being there would not have been terrifying and traumatizing. We all saw the photos of the aftermath. So I don't think anyone would argue that being present in the building on 9/11 would have been terrifying enough to quit.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:COVID-19 was a natural bat virus being studied at the Wuhan Institute of Virology and crappy safety protocols let it out. The Chinese knew about it for the whole fall of 2019 and covered it up.

They are now seeing evidence of COVID in blood that was donated in the fall of 2019 in the US.

Link?

I googled it for you: https://www.redcross.org/about-us/news-and-events/press-release/2020/study-suggests-possible-new-covid-19-timeline-in-the-us.html

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Not an anti vaxxer, but i'm also of the position that it is near impossible that vaccines don't have *some* permanent ill effects for *some* people. Whether it is one in a million that it causes autism, or other auto immune diseases, etc.... The claim that "we know vaccines are totally safe!" seems BS, because you can't claim the absence of things that have been studied. As in, if no one has ever studied whether, say, people who themselves had the MMR vaccine as kids are more likely to give birth to a kid with ASD or thyroid disease or whatever.... then it can't be ruled out.

DP. I think the vaccine-autism debate is a red herring. I suspect the real reason for the huge rise in autism and other developmental disorders is the widespread use of fertility treatments, often in situations that are high risk to start with (AMA, family history, etc). I don't think there's a conspiracy theory surrounding the issue, but I think there's a big push to avoid saying it.

I agree and thought I was the only person who took note of this. Every autistic child I know had a mom who did some kind of fertility treatment.

Don't you think they're studying this already? My anecdotal evidence actually is the opposite of yours.

I don't know a single parent of a child with autism who had fertility treatments. I have two friends whose daughters have autism, both had the girls as newlyweds in their 20s. My friend with an autistic son actually had an oops pregnancy with a FWB - again, no treatments. My three or four friends who did fertility treatments all have neurotypical children.

Has anyone explored the possibility that autism is simply diagnosed more often than it was 30+ years ago? Not because its prevalence has actually risen but because we better understand how to diagnose it?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Not an anti vaxxer, but i'm also of the position that it is near impossible that vaccines don't have *some* permanent ill effects for *some* people. Whether it is one in a million that it causes autism, or other auto immune diseases, etc.... The claim that "we know vaccines are totally safe!" seems BS, because you can't claim the absence of things that have been studied. As in, if no one has ever studied whether, say, people who themselves had the MMR vaccine as kids are more likely to give birth to a kid with ASD or thyroid disease or whatever.... then it can't be ruled out.

DP. I think the vaccine-autism debate is a red herring. I suspect the real reason for the huge rise in autism and other developmental disorders is the widespread use of fertility treatments, often in situations that are high risk to start with (AMA, family history, etc). I don't think there's a conspiracy theory surrounding the issue, but I think there's a big push to avoid saying it.

I agree and thought I was the only person who took note of this. Every autistic child I know had a mom who did some kind of fertility treatment.

Don't you think they're studying this already? My anecdotal evidence actually is the opposite of yours.

I don't know a single parent of a child with autism who had fertility treatments. I have two friends whose daughters have autism, both had the girls as newlyweds in their 20s. My friend with an autistic son actually had an oops pregnancy with a FWB - again, no treatments. My three or four friends who did fertility treatments all have neurotypical children.

Has anyone explored the possibility that autism is simply diagnosed more often than it was 30+ years ago? Not because its prevalence has actually risen but because we better understand how to diagnose it?

Sure, but there is also a reason that we have the National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act of 1986. And it's not because zero harm is ever done by vaccines. It's because TOO MANY vaccine injuries were proven and the lobbyists successfully convinced congress to protect them from lawsuits so that the vaccine manufacturers didn't have to worry too much about being accountable for it.