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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Not an anti vaxxer, but i'm also of the position that it is near impossible that vaccines don't have *some* permanent ill effects for *some* people.  Whether it is one in a million that it causes autism, or other auto immune diseases, etc.... The claim that "we know vaccines are totally safe!" seems BS, because you can't claim the absence of things that have been studied.  As in, if no one has ever studied whether, say, people who themselves had the MMR vaccine as kids are more likely to give birth to a kid with ASD or thyroid disease or whatever.... then it can't be ruled out. [/quote]

DP. I think the vaccine-autism debate is a red herring. I suspect the real reason for the huge rise in autism and other developmental disorders is the widespread use of fertility treatments, often in situations that are high risk to start with (AMA, family history, etc). I don't think there's a conspiracy theory surrounding the issue, but I think there's a big push to avoid saying it.[/quote]

I agree and thought I was the only person who took note of this.  Every autistic child I know had a mom who did some kind of fertility treatment.[/quote]

Don't you think they're studying this already? My anecdotal evidence actually is the opposite of yours.

I don't know a single parent of a child with autism who had fertility treatments. I have two friends whose daughters have autism, both had the girls as newlyweds in their 20s. My friend with an autistic son actually had an oops pregnancy with a FWB - again, no treatments. My three or four friends who did fertility treatments all have neurotypical children. [/quote]

Has anyone explored the possibility that autism is simply diagnosed more often than it was 30+ years ago? Not because its prevalence has actually risen but because we better understand how to diagnose it? [/quote]

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