Official 1st Presidential Debate Thread

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Anonymous wrote:This was sloughier.
He looked weak.

What is up with the sniffling from Trump? Coke?

Allergies. I'm a mess right now.

Mmmhmm. Just like people can get dehydrated in the heat?

Do you have proof of the coke? Just curious. Because it would be so unlike a liberal to lie...

And it would be so unlike a Trump supporter to float the insane Hillary health threads on here lately................

I didn't accuse Hillary of using illegal drugs. You did of Trump. I'm asking you if you have anything to support that?

It wasn't PP, it was me.

Well, you guys said Parkinson's after she overheated, so logically, sniffs=drugs

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Anonymous wrote:Hold started out fine, then when it was clear Hillary was out of her league, decided to rescue her. That was pretty ridiculous

Didn't see that at all - she won most of the exchanges and started out the stronger of the two.

Not even close. He was killing her with facts.

Oh dear, please go to NPR's fact checking site. I think you'll eat those words with some relish on top.

NPR? AHHAHAHAHAH. How about CNN? Or perhaps Daily Kos?

Honey, they have actual citations. You know? Those things that show what the candidates actually said in the past? Numbers that can be consulted to prove statements right/wrong? I know that you R's love to claim "liberal bias" and all but facts are what they are. If Trump said something untrue -which is likely- and it shows in those facts, then putting your fingers in your ears and singing "la, la, la" isn't going to help.

I've asked this a few times, and no one has responded. If news sites like NPR, reuters are biased, then what news sources do Trump supporters use to check facts?

I'm actually a moderate republican, but I read NPR and reuters; I go to google news which is a compilation of news sources. So, what news sources do Trump supporters consider "unbiased"?

Breitbart.

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I find both of these people to be irritating and the two worst candidates running for president in the last 4 decades. Why watch a debate between two self centered, self serving and unethical people?

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Anonymous wrote:Does it not matter to any Trump supporters that he just admitted he pays NO FEDERAL TAXES?

to his credit, he never actually said he paid no federal taxes. He said he'd be smart if he didn't. I think he paid very little in federal taxes, and that is partly why he won't release his returns. HRC nailed that one.

If you were a smart business person, you would understand that the goal is to reduce your tax load in a legal fashion as much as you possibly can.

Yes, but is it fair to the middle/upper class tax payers who pay almost 30% in federal taxes? We are paying for schools, supporting vets, infrastructure, etc.. How much has he paid to support these people?

And he wants to continue to allow the rich to pay as little as possible. As a non rich person, how stupid are you to think he's been paying his fair share? And he goes on and on about other countries not paying their fair share to NATO.

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Anonymous wrote:Hold started out fine, then when it was clear Hillary was out of her league, decided to rescue her. That was pretty ridiculous

Didn't see that at all - she won most of the exchanges and started out the stronger of the two.

Not even close. He was killing her with facts.

Oh dear, please go to NPR's fact checking site. I think you'll eat those words with some relish on top.

NPR? AHHAHAHAHAH. How about CNN? Or perhaps Daily Kos?

Honey, they have actual citations. You know? Those things that show what the candidates actually said in the past? Numbers that can be consulted to prove statements right/wrong? I know that you R's love to claim "liberal bias" and all but facts are what they are. If Trump said something untrue -which is likely- and it shows in those facts, then putting your fingers in your ears and singing "la, la, la" isn't going to help.

I've asked this a few times, and no one has responded. If news sites like NPR, reuters are biased, then what news sources do Trump supporters use to check facts?

I'm actually a moderate republican, but I read NPR and reuters; I go to google news which is a compilation of news sources. So, what news sources do Trump supporters consider "unbiased"?

Breitbart.

Breitbart is a tough one. Sometimes they are right. Often they are entirely 100% wrong. It's not easy to know which is which, so I tend to take all of their articles with a large grain of salt.

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Anonymous wrote:I believe she will win. I hope all of those who love her (when MANY Dems merely tolerate her) enjoy her smug, arrogant, condescending attitude for the next four years.

How can you all not be disappointed in her, especially following on the heels of Obama for the past eight years? He was soooo much more likable. I don't believe for a second that you will enjoy seeing Hillary as president, you are just glad she is a Democrat. She is so unpleasant and intolerable.

I find her perfectly likeable. But I don't vote on likeability. Plenty of people thought Obama was an arrogant ass. Plenty of others thought he was too conciliatory. People see what they want to see. I'll take the competent, prepared, sane person over the one who wants to curtail civil liberties, muzzle the press, and impose a religious litmus test for admission to the country, thanks.

I know you will vote for her, and so will more Americans than will vote for Trump. And I know you like what she stands for, thanks.

My point is that she is grating, unpleasant and hard to listen to. Anybody who says otherwise is being disingenuous.

I didn't say I like what she stands for, though I do. I like HER. I don't find her grating or unpleasant. I find Trump impossible to listen to. Hillary, I find perfectly fine. Don't put words in my mouth.

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Anonymous wrote:Hold started out fine, then when it was clear Hillary was out of her league, decided to rescue her. That was pretty ridiculous

Didn't see that at all - she won most of the exchanges and started out the stronger of the two.

Not even close. He was killing her with facts.

Oh dear, please go to NPR's fact checking site. I think you'll eat those words with some relish on top.

NPR? AHHAHAHAHAH. How about CNN? Or perhaps Daily Kos?

Honey, they have actual citations. You know? Those things that show what the candidates actually said in the past? Numbers that can be consulted to prove statements right/wrong? I know that you R's love to claim "liberal bias" and all but facts are what they are. If Trump said something untrue -which is likely- and it shows in those facts, then putting your fingers in your ears and singing "la, la, la" isn't going to help.

I've asked this a few times, and no one has responded. If news sites like NPR, reuters are biased, then what news sources do Trump supporters use to check facts?

I'm actually a moderate republican, but I read NPR and reuters; I go to google news which is a compilation of news sources. So, what news sources do Trump supporters consider "unbiased"?

Breitbart.

PP here.. exactly, like that source is not biased?

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Anonymous wrote:Hold started out fine, then when it was clear Hillary was out of her league, decided to rescue her. That was pretty ridiculous

Didn't see that at all - she won most of the exchanges and started out the stronger of the two.

Not even close. He was killing her with facts.

Oh dear, please go to NPR's fact checking site. I think you'll eat those words with some relish on top.

NPR? AHHAHAHAHAH. How about CNN? Or perhaps Daily Kos?

Honey, they have actual citations. You know? Those things that show what the candidates actually said in the past? Numbers that can be consulted to prove statements right/wrong? I know that you R's love to claim "liberal bias" and all but facts are what they are. If Trump said something untrue -which is likely- and it shows in those facts, then putting your fingers in your ears and singing "la, la, la" isn't going to help.

I've asked this a few times, and no one has responded. If news sites like NPR, reuters are biased, then what news sources do Trump supporters use to check facts?

I'm actually a moderate republican, but I read NPR and reuters; I go to google news which is a compilation of news sources. So, what news sources do Trump supporters consider "unbiased"?

We don't check one source. I look at multiple sources. If I were to believe this fact checker or that fact checker, I'm letting someone else do the work I can do myself.

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I think Trump has ADHD and his Ritalin wore off halfway through.

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Anonymous wrote:Hold started out fine, then when it was clear Hillary was out of her league, decided to rescue her. That was pretty ridiculous

Didn't see that at all - she won most of the exchanges and started out the stronger of the two.

Not even close. He was killing her with facts.

Oh dear, please go to NPR's fact checking site. I think you'll eat those words with some relish on top.

NPR? AHHAHAHAHAH. How about CNN? Or perhaps Daily Kos?

Honey, they have actual citations. You know? Those things that show what the candidates actually said in the past? Numbers that can be consulted to prove statements right/wrong? I know that you R's love to claim "liberal bias" and all but facts are what they are. If Trump said something untrue -which is likely- and it shows in those facts, then putting your fingers in your ears and singing "la, la, la" isn't going to help.

I've asked this a few times, and no one has responded. If news sites like NPR, reuters are biased, then what news sources do Trump supporters use to check facts?

I'm actually a moderate republican, but I read NPR and reuters; I go to google news which is a compilation of news sources. So, what news sources do Trump supporters consider "unbiased"?

Breitbart.

PP here.. exactly, like that source is not biased?

If you look at it exclusively, yes it is. If you take time to check the details of what they are saying? Then no. That's the difference. Breitbart is definitely right-wing but their details usually are correct.

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Incidentally, I don't know why he thinks it helps him to keep saying that his lawyers told him not to release his tax returns. I'm a lawyer and when I hear that I head "please don't release these because they are a total shit show and you are just going to create more legal headaches for yourself."

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Hillary: you don't pay taxes, which means no money for military, no money for healthcare, no money for eduction.

Trump: Thats because I am smart.

Trumpkin should think: Am I not smart to pay taxes?

Trumpkins actually think: I will become billionaire because of Trump in 4 years,if he becomes president, and then I don't have to pay taxes. So I am smart.

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Anonymous wrote:Trump just hinted he'll talk about Bill's "indiscretions" next debate.

Proof that he knows he can't win on substance.

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Anonymous wrote:Does it not matter to any Trump supporters that he just admitted he pays NO FEDERAL TAXES?

to his credit, he never actually said he paid no federal taxes. He said he'd be smart if he didn't. I think he paid very little in federal taxes, and that is partly why he won't release his returns. HRC nailed that one.

If you were a smart business person, you would understand that the goal is to reduce your tax load in a legal fashion as much as you possibly can.

Yes, but is it fair to the middle/upper class tax payers who pay almost 30% in federal taxes? We are paying for schools, supporting vets, infrastructure, etc.. How much has he paid to support these people?

And he wants to continue to allow the rich to pay as little as possible. As a non rich person, how stupid are you to think he's been paying his fair share? And he goes on and on about other countries not paying their fair share to NATO.

Yes it is. Because these businesses employ those middle/upper class taxpayers. Without these businesses, there would be no money to collect at all.

Oy!

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Anonymous wrote:I think Trump has ADHD and his Ritalin wore off halfway through.

That's not the way Ritalin works. He's just not very smart, and the longer he goes on, the harde it is to hide-don't blame it on ADHD.