20 victims reported at Annunciation Catholic School in Minneapolis

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Anonymous wrote:I am so deeply offended by the mainstream reporting on this attacker as "she." I don't know how any woman can continue supporting this utter fallacy.

You can be offended all you want. The reality in 2025 is that she is a woman.

Accept it or be a weirdo hater. Your choice.

There is nothing weird about it. You cannot really believe it is okay for men with mental illness to shield themselves by acting out the most demeaning parodies of women and insisting we all get on board with it. The whole thing is so offensive to women that I am in utter shock and dismay everyday at how weak and maladjusted women on the left have become. I consider myself a progressive who fights for women's rights. Why don't you? Why are you okay with men prancing around acting out weird fantasies and considering themselves women just because they act frilly and feminine. Please show me one transwoman who acts like a strong, intelligent woman, respectful of all of us. You can't. And this person is simply not a woman.

You are over reacting. Most trans people are living quiet lives that affect you not one bit. You have fallen for the GOP over-hype of this issue.

I haven't fallen for anything. This is my personal feeling when I see how out of hand the issue has become. When men stage exaggerated performances of “womanhood” on social media, pretending they need tampons or reducing femininity to long hair and false eyelashes, it feels offensive. Womanhood is not something to be parodied or reduced to a costume. What troubles me most is that women on the left, afraid of appearing unempathetic or “not woke,” have fallen for these displays, rather than questioning how they diminish and caricature women’s real experiences.

Where are you even seeing this crap? Get off SM -- it's not real life. People on SM do crazy stuff to get clicks, and you are apparently rewarding them. My teens have a few friends that are trans, and they are all very nice, sweet kids who are busy taking AP classes, not doing crazy crap online. Spend more time with real people, and less time looking at exaggerated performances on social media.

Oh, so we should just ignore the crazies with millions of followers, influencing public opinion and policies? Sure, okay.

DP. No, someone should definitely suspend Trump’s social media accounts/platform. Finally, something we can agree on.

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Anonymous wrote:For trans people being so rare, they sure do commit a lot of school shootings.

Isn't it like 2, out of a total of about 1000 school shootings over the last 5 years?

There have been 89 “mass shootings” over the past 5 years. Of which at least 3 have been confirmed to be by trans people.
Trans people make up 0.5% of the population and have committed over 3% of mass shootings the past 5 years.

https://rockinst.org/gun-violence/mass-shooting-factsheet/

Now do men.

+100 They make up, what, about half of the population?

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Anonymous wrote:For trans people being so rare, they sure do commit a lot of school shootings.

Isn't it like 2, out of a total of about 1000 school shootings over the last 5 years?

There have been 89 “mass shootings” over the past 5 years. Of which at least 3 have been confirmed to be by trans people.
Trans people make up 0.5% of the population and have committed over 3% of mass shootings the past 5 years.

https://rockinst.org/gun-violence/mass-shooting-factsheet/

There have been more than 89 mass shootings in the last five years and trans people are more than .5%.

Not according to the statistics. Look it up yourself. Sorry you don’t like facts.

You don’t like facts. You literally cut the real number by 50%. Nothing you say is real.

https://williamsinstitute.law.ucla.edu/publications/trans-adults-united-states/

Over 2.8 million adults (aged 18 and older) and youth (aged 13 to 17) identify as transgender in the United States, or 1.0% of those aged 13 and older.

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Anonymous wrote:For trans people being so rare, they sure do commit a lot of school shootings.

Isn't it like 2, out of a total of about 1000 school shootings over the last 5 years?

There have been 89 “mass shootings” over the past 5 years. Of which at least 3 have been confirmed to be by trans people.
Trans people make up 0.5% of the population and have committed over 3% of mass shootings the past 5 years.

https://rockinst.org/gun-violence/mass-shooting-factsheet/

Now do men.

+100 They make up, what, about half of the population?

Men make up half the population and commit 95% of mass shootings.

Interestingly, white people make up 60% of the population and only account for 54% of mass shooters.

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Anonymous wrote:For trans people being so rare, they sure do commit a lot of school shootings.

Isn't it like 2, out of a total of about 1000 school shootings over the last 5 years?

There have been 89 “mass shootings” over the past 5 years. Of which at least 3 have been confirmed to be by trans people.
Trans people make up 0.5% of the population and have committed over 3% of mass shootings the past 5 years.

https://rockinst.org/gun-violence/mass-shooting-factsheet/

There have been more than 89 mass shootings in the last five years and trans people are more than .5%.

Not according to the statistics. Look it up yourself. Sorry you don’t like facts.

You don’t like facts. You literally cut the real number by 50%. Nothing you say is real.

https://williamsinstitute.law.ucla.edu/publications/trans-adults-united-states/

Over 2.8 million adults (aged 18 and older) and youth (aged 13 to 17) identify as transgender in the United States, or 1.0% of those aged 13 and older.

Still way over represented in mass shooters.

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Anonymous wrote:For trans people being so rare, they sure do commit a lot of school shootings.

Isn't it like 2, out of a total of about 1000 school shootings over the last 5 years?

There have been 89 “mass shootings” over the past 5 years. Of which at least 3 have been confirmed to be by trans people.
Trans people make up 0.5% of the population and have committed over 3% of mass shootings the past 5 years.

https://rockinst.org/gun-violence/mass-shooting-factsheet/

Now do men.

+100 They make up, what, about half of the population?

Men make up half the population and commit 95% of mass shootings.

Interestingly, white people make up 60% of the population and only account for 54% of mass shooters.

“Only account”? Seems like we have a white man issue.

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Anonymous wrote:Big Pharma is a big problem here not guns. Majority of these shooters are on SSRI’s or recently, puberty blockers. Nobody wants to call out the elephant in the room:
Big Pharma

It is insane to me how among the listed side effects for SSRIs - drugs given for severe depression - are suicidal thoughts and suicidal behavior! What are the point of these poisonous things???

It’s also dumb that teens can’t vape or smoke until 18 or drink till they’re 21 because alcohol is considered a mind altering drug yet they can take SSRI’s or completely change their gender with puberty blockers while underage.

Teens are already mentally not all the way there so imagine with medication

You can’t drink until 21 but you can buy a gun at 18.

Guns should require a safety class and test (like driving lessons) that come with a cost and parental and medical provider sign-off before anyone gets close to having the privilege to buy a gun.

This is the solution! A start. Banning firearms is the end goal, but this is what we do as soon as we have a real leader in the USA. Or even on state level in states with sensible lawmakers.

Why not just start with the end goal? Don’t you even care about all the people who will still die getting from your “start point” to the end goal? What about them? Don’t they matter? You’re willing to sacrifice them to incremental progress?

That’s F’d up.

Firearms cannot be banned. Not lawfully. Not practically. It is a reality-denying confabulation to insist on magical solutions while ignoring the root causes of psychopathy and criminal violence.

They actually can be banned but Republicans refuse to allow it.

“Banned” like illicit narcotics and all the other contraband in which the country is, and has long been, awash? There is a federal “ban” on marijuana. Illegitimate and unprescribed fentanyl is “banned” everywhere. We all know how that’s worked out.

Do you think we are idiots that don’t know other nations don’t have our gun violence issues?

“Gun violence” is a handy rhetorical buzzword for criminal misuse of firearms.

I didn’t call anybody any names. If somebody feels like they’re an idiot when the error of what purports to be their reasoning becomes evident, that feeling would be for them to examine.

Other nations, as has been repeatedly and exhaustively discussed in this and other threads, are not the same as the United States. There are places in the world where essentially every home has a fully automatic, machine gun, battle rifle, weapon of war, AK pattern rifle. They have plenty of internecine violence but nobody is shooting up schools.

It is delusional to believe that firearms can be magically “disappeared” from the United States, never to reappear. Continuing to posit that as a “solution” to unlawful criminal violence committed with firearms distracts from the real problem of criminal psychopaths and their psychopathic criminal misconduct.

In any event, the point of my post was that paper “bans” may briefly feel satisfying, but that there is a long way between what’s on paper and what’s actually happening in reality.

NP.

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This post sums it up so well. So many societal problems far, far beyond shootings, could be addressed and helped if we took mental health as seriously as other countries do.

A good start is to bring back the in-patient mental hospitals to help the ones most in-need in our country. We never should have eliminated those facilities. Reform, yes, but not the wholesale closure which we implemented.

I agree with you we need to fix societal issues like better inpatient mental health treatment, but I disagree with the PP that gun reform means “paper bans.”

We need —

Gun buy backs. Offer financial incentives to get as many off the street as possible, no questions asked during a certain phase-in period.

Strict liability (e.g, someone else accesses your gun and shoots up a school or you leave it unattended so a toddler kills themself, this is some level of homicide). Make a big show of charging people as accessories to crimes so we can scare the crap out of people who aren’t keeping their guns secure. If you own a gun, you own the result of anyone harmed by it. If you are a responsible gun owner already taking precautions, you should have no problem with this. Only people who know they are careless will have anything to worry about. Exemptions for people who timely report stolen weapons.

Mandatory gun registration and requiring storage in a biometric safe when it’s not being carried on your person. This goes back to the strict liability above. Your gun is either on your person or in a safe. If you fail to do so, you accept civil and criminal liability for whatever happens with that gun. Intent for the result itself doesn’t matter (see felony murder rules in many states).

Failure to register a gun is a felony and make it easier for the government to confiscate guns from people who don’t have registration. This includes finding guns at traffic stops.

Mandatory insurance and tracking/limits regarding the amount of ammunition you can buy. If I can manage to show my ID to buy cold medicine, then people can show an ID to buy bullets, which kill people. Rates go up the more guns and ammo you buy.

Stricter enforcement of existing laws. No more “second chances” for people who commit gun crimes. A friend of mine was murdered by someone who had a prior gun charge that was pled down and had been let back out after just 2 years. I think if you commit a felony with a gun (robbery, assault, etc.) you get a mandatory minimum of 20 years.

Also, stop charging 16 and 17 year olds as juveniles. The vast majority of teens are not out shooting people so this isn’t simply dumb teenage behavior. At this point they’re old enough to understand their actions. They just don’t want the consequences.

Improvement in family courts and prosecution of domestic violence. Stop making parents hand their kids over for visits with nut jobs known to be violent.

Requirements for social media companies to use AI to flag manifestos and posts with guns. It’s absolutely infuriating that this Minn shooter uploaded looney tunes videos to YouTube and no one did a damn thing.

These are just off the top of my head. I’m sure as technology advances we can build on this.

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Anonymous wrote:For trans people being so rare, they sure do commit a lot of school shootings.

Isn't it like 2, out of a total of about 1000 school shootings over the last 5 years?

There have been 89 “mass shootings” over the past 5 years. Of which at least 3 have been confirmed to be by trans people.
Trans people make up 0.5% of the population and have committed over 3% of mass shootings the past 5 years.

https://rockinst.org/gun-violence/mass-shooting-factsheet/

Now do men.

+100 They make up, what, about half of the population?

Men make up half the population and commit 95% of mass shootings.

Interestingly, white people make up 60% of the population and only account for 54% of mass shooters.

“Only account”? Seems like we have a white man issue.

You aren’t the strongest at statistics are ya?

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“When an opponent declares, 'I will not come over to your side,' I calmly say, 'Your child belongs to us already... What are you? You will pass on. Your descendants, however, now stand in the new camp. In a short time they will know nothing else but this new community.”

Adolf Hitler

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This particular deranged murderer made a lot of noise and managed to kill (I think) just two people. The very list of knife events you reject demonstrates how quickly the body count can rise with a committed knife attacker. Bladed weapons were responsible for industrial-strength slaughter for millennia.

Besides the two dead, there were 17 injured including 14 children. Many of these (especially among those classified as being in critical condition) will likely be crippled for life.

Also note that the murderer shot at the children through the Church windows. This is something that could not be done with a knife. Yes, a committed knife attacker can kill multiple people, but it is much, much easier done with a gun.

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Anonymous wrote:For trans people being so rare, they sure do commit a lot of school shootings.

Isn't it like 2, out of a total of about 1000 school shootings over the last 5 years?

There have been 89 “mass shootings” over the past 5 years. Of which at least 3 have been confirmed to be by trans people.
Trans people make up 0.5% of the population and have committed over 3% of mass shootings the past 5 years.

https://rockinst.org/gun-violence/mass-shooting-factsheet/

Now do men.

+100 They make up, what, about half of the population?

Men make up half the population and commit 95% of mass shootings.

Interestingly, white people make up 60% of the population and only account for 54% of mass shooters.

“Only account”? Seems like we have a white man issue.

You aren’t the strongest at statistics are ya?

Explain to me how I’m wrong.

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Anonymous wrote:For trans people being so rare, they sure do commit a lot of school shootings.

Now do cis white men. This isn't a trans issue. FFS.

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Anonymous wrote:Big Pharma is a big problem here not guns. Majority of these shooters are on SSRI’s or recently, puberty blockers. Nobody wants to call out the elephant in the room:
Big Pharma

It is insane to me how among the listed side effects for SSRIs - drugs given for severe depression - are suicidal thoughts and suicidal behavior! What are the point of these poisonous things???

It’s also dumb that teens can’t vape or smoke until 18 or drink till they’re 21 because alcohol is considered a mind altering drug yet they can take SSRI’s or completely change their gender with puberty blockers while underage.

Teens are already mentally not all the way there so imagine with medication

You can’t drink until 21 but you can buy a gun at 18.

Guns should require a safety class and test (like driving lessons) that come with a cost and parental and medical provider sign-off before anyone gets close to having the privilege to buy a gun.

This is the solution! A start. Banning firearms is the end goal, but this is what we do as soon as we have a real leader in the USA. Or even on state level in states with sensible lawmakers.

Why not just start with the end goal? Don’t you even care about all the people who will still die getting from your “start point” to the end goal? What about them? Don’t they matter? You’re willing to sacrifice them to incremental progress?

That’s F’d up.

Firearms cannot be banned. Not lawfully. Not practically. It is a reality-denying confabulation to insist on magical solutions while ignoring the root causes of psychopathy and criminal violence.

They actually can be banned but Republicans refuse to allow it.

“Banned” like illicit narcotics and all the other contraband in which the country is, and has long been, awash? There is a federal “ban” on marijuana. Illegitimate and unprescribed fentanyl is “banned” everywhere. We all know how that’s worked out.

Do you think we are idiots that don’t know other nations don’t have our gun violence issues?

“Gun violence” is a handy rhetorical buzzword for criminal misuse of firearms.

I didn’t call anybody any names. If somebody feels like they’re an idiot when the error of what purports to be their reasoning becomes evident, that feeling would be for them to examine.

Other nations, as has been repeatedly and exhaustively discussed in this and other threads, are not the same as the United States. There are places in the world where essentially every home has a fully automatic, machine gun, battle rifle, weapon of war, AK pattern rifle. They have plenty of internecine violence but nobody is shooting up schools.

It is delusional to believe that firearms can be magically “disappeared” from the United States, never to reappear. Continuing to posit that as a “solution” to unlawful criminal violence committed with firearms distracts from the real problem of criminal psychopaths and their psychopathic criminal misconduct.

In any event, the point of my post was that paper “bans” may briefly feel satisfying, but that there is a long way between what’s on paper and what’s actually happening in reality.

"criminal misuse of firearms" - now there's a euphemism for "we have a gun culture issue".

Do you know why other civilized countries don't have a "criminal misuse of firearms" problem? Because they don't have easy access to guns like we do.

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Anonymous wrote:For trans people being so rare, they sure do commit a lot of school shootings.

Isn't it like 2, out of a total of about 1000 school shootings over the last 5 years?

I think it’s like .1% of mass shootings that are committed by trans people.

Also, I’m not 100% sure these “trans” shooters are really trans vs. mentally ill with gender dysphoria.

To be clear, I’m not saying being trans is a mental illness. But I do think there is a delineation between genuinely trans people just trying to live their lives to match their inside vs. people who are mentally ill and confused. Just like how some people are truly neurodiverse and some people are just weird and self diagnosing.

Also for being less than half the general population, cis men sure commit a disproportionate amount of mass shootings (like 90% +). So if there is a demographic that is concerning it is men. They also commit the vast majority of sexual assaults, robberies, terrorist attacks, etc.

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Considering Minnesota’s red flag laws, and the fact that there was a large family around the shooter, I’m very surprised they weren’t able to intervene and get the guns removed. Was he/she able to hide them completely?