20 victims reported at Annunciation Catholic School in Minneapolis

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Anonymous wrote:For trans people being so rare, they sure do commit a lot of school shootings.

Isn't it like 2, out of a total of about 1000 school shootings over the last 5 years?

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Anonymous wrote:Big Pharma is a big problem here not guns. Majority of these shooters are on SSRI’s or recently, puberty blockers. Nobody wants to call out the elephant in the room:
Big Pharma

It is insane to me how among the listed side effects for SSRIs - drugs given for severe depression - are suicidal thoughts and suicidal behavior! What are the point of these poisonous things???

It’s also dumb that teens can’t vape or smoke until 18 or drink till they’re 21 because alcohol is considered a mind altering drug yet they can take SSRI’s or completely change their gender with puberty blockers while underage.

Teens are already mentally not all the way there so imagine with medication

You can’t drink until 21 but you can buy a gun at 18.

Guns should require a safety class and test (like driving lessons) that come with a cost and parental and medical provider sign-off before anyone gets close to having the privilege to buy a gun.

This is the solution! A start. Banning firearms is the end goal, but this is what we do as soon as we have a real leader in the USA. Or even on state level in states with sensible lawmakers.

Why not just start with the end goal? Don’t you even care about all the people who will still die getting from your “start point” to the end goal? What about them? Don’t they matter? You’re willing to sacrifice them to incremental progress?

That’s F’d up.

Firearms cannot be banned. Not lawfully. Not practically. It is a reality-denying confabulation to insist on magical solutions while ignoring the root causes of psychopathy and criminal violence.

They actually can be banned but Republicans refuse to allow it.

“Banned” like illicit narcotics and all the other contraband in which the country is, and has long been, awash? There is a federal “ban” on marijuana. Illegitimate and unprescribed fentanyl is “banned” everywhere. We all know how that’s worked out.

Do you think we are idiots that don’t know other nations don’t have our gun violence issues?

“Gun violence” is a handy rhetorical buzzword for criminal misuse of firearms.

I didn’t call anybody any names. If somebody feels like they’re an idiot when the error of what purports to be their reasoning becomes evident, that feeling would be for them to examine.

Other nations, as has been repeatedly and exhaustively discussed in this and other threads, are not the same as the United States. There are places in the world where essentially every home has a fully automatic, machine gun, battle rifle, weapon of war, AK pattern rifle. They have plenty of internecine violence but nobody is shooting up schools.

It is delusional to believe that firearms can be magically “disappeared” from the United States, never to reappear. Continuing to posit that as a “solution” to unlawful criminal violence committed with firearms distracts from the real problem of criminal psychopaths and their psychopathic criminal misconduct.

In any event, the point of my post was that paper “bans” may briefly feel satisfying, but that there is a long way between what’s on paper and what’s actually happening in reality.

It's not delusional. We're spending billions and billions and billions of dollars on building concentration camps in swamps. That could go a long long way towards getting rid of a lot of ridiculous weaponry. We have a lot of money. What are we going to do with it?

You might start by locking up for the full duration available under federal law every felon found in possession of a firearm, followed by another full term for the same offense under state law.

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Anonymous wrote:It doesn't matter if he is pro or anti-Trump. It doesn't matter what his sexual orientation or identity is. None of that matters.

If he didn't have access to guns, he couldn't have killed to innocent children. He couldn't have shot over a dozen others.

Anyone who does not see this, is complicit.

The pro-gun people will also come in here insisting that restricting access to guns / making the purchase of a gun more difficult wouldn’t have done anything. But in this case, and in many other mass shooting attempts, the guns were newly purchased! I understand that there are tons of guns already out there. But that doesn’t mean we should not do something about future gun sales and access.

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Anonymous wrote:Big Pharma is a big problem here not guns. Majority of these shooters are on SSRI’s or recently, puberty blockers. Nobody wants to call out the elephant in the room:
Big Pharma

It is insane to me how among the listed side effects for SSRIs - drugs given for severe depression - are suicidal thoughts and suicidal behavior! What are the point of these poisonous things???

It’s also dumb that teens can’t vape or smoke until 18 or drink till they’re 21 because alcohol is considered a mind altering drug yet they can take SSRI’s or completely change their gender with puberty blockers while underage.

Teens are already mentally not all the way there so imagine with medication

You can’t drink until 21 but you can buy a gun at 18.

Guns should require a safety class and test (like driving lessons) that come with a cost and parental and medical provider sign-off before anyone gets close to having the privilege to buy a gun.

This is the solution! A start. Banning firearms is the end goal, but this is what we do as soon as we have a real leader in the USA. Or even on state level in states with sensible lawmakers.

Why not just start with the end goal? Don’t you even care about all the people who will still die getting from your “start point” to the end goal? What about them? Don’t they matter? You’re willing to sacrifice them to incremental progress?

That’s F’d up.

Firearms cannot be banned. Not lawfully. Not practically. It is a reality-denying confabulation to insist on magical solutions while ignoring the root causes of psychopathy and criminal violence.

They actually can be banned but Republicans refuse to allow it.

“Banned” like illicit narcotics and all the other contraband in which the country is, and has long been, awash? There is a federal “ban” on marijuana. Illegitimate and unprescribed fentanyl is “banned” everywhere. We all know how that’s worked out.

Do you think we are idiots that don’t know other nations don’t have our gun violence issues?

“Gun violence” is a handy rhetorical buzzword for criminal misuse of firearms.

I didn’t call anybody any names. If somebody feels like they’re an idiot when the error of what purports to be their reasoning becomes evident, that feeling would be for them to examine.

Other nations, as has been repeatedly and exhaustively discussed in this and other threads, are not the same as the United States. There are places in the world where essentially every home has a fully automatic, machine gun, battle rifle, weapon of war, AK pattern rifle. They have plenty of internecine violence but nobody is shooting up schools.

It is delusional to believe that firearms can be magically “disappeared” from the United States, never to reappear. Continuing to posit that as a “solution” to unlawful criminal violence committed with firearms distracts from the real problem of criminal psychopaths and their psychopathic criminal misconduct.

In any event, the point of my post was that paper “bans” may briefly feel satisfying, but that there is a long way between what’s on paper and what’s actually happening in reality.

It's not delusional. We're spending billions and billions and billions of dollars on building concentration camps in swamps. That could go a long long way towards getting rid of a lot of ridiculous weaponry. We have a lot of money. What are we going to do with it?

You might start by locking up for the full duration available under federal law every felon found in possession of a firearm, followed by another full term for the same offense under state law.

It's going to take a long time and a lot of different strategies. It seems to be worth doing but the voters need to commit to it.

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Anonymous wrote:I am so deeply offended by the mainstream reporting on this attacker as "she." I don't know how any woman can continue supporting this utter fallacy.

You can be offended all you want. The reality in 2025 is that she is a woman.

Accept it or be a weirdo hater. Your choice.

There is nothing weird about it. You cannot really believe it is okay for men with mental illness to shield themselves by acting out the most demeaning parodies of women and insisting we all get on board with it. The whole thing is so offensive to women that I am in utter shock and dismay everyday at how weak and maladjusted women on the left have become. I consider myself a progressive who fights for women's rights. Why don't you? Why are you okay with men prancing around acting out weird fantasies and considering themselves women just because they act frilly and feminine. Please show me one transwoman who acts like a strong, intelligent woman, respectful of all of us. You can't. And this person is simply not a woman.

You are over reacting. Most trans people are living quiet lives that affect you not one bit. You have fallen for the GOP over-hype of this issue.

I haven't fallen for anything. This is my personal feeling when I see how out of hand the issue has become. When men stage exaggerated performances of “womanhood” on social media, pretending they need tampons or reducing femininity to long hair and false eyelashes, it feels offensive. Womanhood is not something to be parodied or reduced to a costume. What troubles me most is that women on the left, afraid of appearing unempathetic or “not woke,” have fallen for these displays, rather than questioning how they diminish and caricature women’s real experiences.

Where are you even seeing this crap? Get off SM -- it's not real life. People on SM do crazy stuff to get clicks, and you are apparently rewarding them. My teens have a few friends that are trans, and they are all very nice, sweet kids who are busy taking AP classes, not doing crazy crap online. Spend more time with real people, and less time looking at exaggerated performances on social media.

Oh, so we should just ignore the crazies with millions of followers, influencing public opinion and policies? Sure, okay.

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Anonymous wrote:As an elementary school teacher, it broke my heart to see the kids being interviewed and struck me how they were not at all surprised that this happened to them. Our kids are growing up expecting to go through an active shooter situation at school.

We are breeding the next generation of domestic terrorists.

+1 How can this be the world we leave to our children?

It's only the "world" in the US. Other civilized countries don't have this issue.

I've told my kids who have dual citizenship with a European country to seriously think about moving there if they have kids. The US is a horrible place to raise children.

My friend moved to Portugal with her family, including little kids. They never ever worry about school shootings, or shootings anywhere.

If you think other civilized countries in the world don’t have this problem you are ill informed. It might not be guns in Europe but there are now frequent mass killings using vehicles and knives.

Sydney, Australia mall killings April 2024. Man uses knife to kill 6 people and injure 12.

Norway July 2011. Man sets off bomb in Oslo killing 7 then goes to an island where there was a youth camp and killed 69 people there.

Germany 6 dead, 200 injured in Dec 2024 Christmas market attack. 2016 Christmas market attack in Germany killed 12.

China 2023 man uses knife to kill 6 children in a kindergarten.

China 2024 man uses knife to
Kill 8 and injure 17.

Portugal Sept 2014. 12 year old boy wearing a bulletproof vest stabs six children ages 11-14 at his school.

Austria June 2025 school shooting. 21 year old shoots and kills 9 at a school.

2002 Germany school shooting kills 17.

Jokela Germany school shooting in 2007 kills 9.

Finland school shooting 2008 kills 10. Gunman was inspired by 2007 German killing.

May 2023 school shooting in Serbia kills 10.

Chech Republic Dec 2023 school shooting 15 dead

Swedish school shooting 2025 former student kills 10.

I don’t think it should be legal to have the type and variety of guns that are available in the US but I no longer believe in banning guns. It’s too late.

I think the internet should be massively censored instead. Online chat rooms of people discussing violence and people being able to look up details of previous school shootings should not be allowed. Media coverage of school shoutings should be censored with no details given of shooter besides sex and age. No names or photos available. This recent school shooter wrote about being inspired by Sandy Hook.

It’s a perverse cycle. Parents want their kids to have a phone in case of a school shooting but the internet on those phones are deadly.

What your argument fails to take into account here is that, while yes other countries do have large scale attacks as well, they are isolated AND FAR LESS FREQUENT than the mass shootings perpetrated in the US. To the extent that crime is easier to commit, the more frequently it will be committed. Guns are everywhere in the US, and it’s so much easier for some dude to pull the trigger a bunch of times than to grab a knife and run around in a rampage. Think about it. Think hard. Most twenty something male would-be killers are not going to get up close and personal with a knife to a bunch of school children. They’re too cowardly and it’s too personal of a crime. But a gun takes the personal out of it, and the guns are everywhere. Thus, the guns have to go. All of them.

I like how none of the gun advocates have responded to this one. It’s just really stumped them. Guns are easy, knives are not.

Oh no. I think it's because your post was pointless and inane.

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Anonymous wrote:I am so deeply offended by the mainstream reporting on this attacker as "she." I don't know how any woman can continue supporting this utter fallacy.

I'm a woman and I find it irrelevant that they identified as trans. I find it offensive that the RWNJs are focusing on that and the media are feeding it. It is more relevant that this person has a history of ranting on video about guns and violence.

Meanwhile, the majority of mass shooters are males. Should we start curtailing all the rights and activities of all males as a result?

But you cannot separate those things. This complete freak show was allowed to continue ranting and acting out because if anybody tried to stop him, they'd be excoriated for their discrimination against trans people. Do you not see how "affirming" mental illness has gotten out of control?

Yes they should be separated. Not all mass shooters are trans individuals (most are not) and not all trans individuals are mass shooters (most are not).

The vast majority of people with mental illnesses are not a threat to you or me or anyone. Demonization of people with mental illness was a bad thing in the past we don't need to revisit. Nor should we ignore mental illnesses. There is a common sense middle ground. The fact that you can't see that and have swallowed the GOP Koolaid about trans people makes you the dangerous, harmful person.

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Anonymous wrote:For trans people being so rare, they sure do commit a lot of school shootings.

Isn't it like 2, out of a total of about 1000 school shootings over the last 5 years?

There have been 89 “mass shootings” over the past 5 years. Of which at least 3 have been confirmed to be by trans people.
Trans people make up 0.5% of the population and have committed over 3% of mass shootings the past 5 years.

https://rockinst.org/gun-violence/mass-shooting-factsheet/

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Anonymous wrote:Big Pharma is a big problem here not guns. Majority of these shooters are on SSRI’s or recently, puberty blockers. Nobody wants to call out the elephant in the room:
Big Pharma

It is insane to me how among the listed side effects for SSRIs - drugs given for severe depression - are suicidal thoughts and suicidal behavior! What are the point of these poisonous things???

It’s also dumb that teens can’t vape or smoke until 18 or drink till they’re 21 because alcohol is considered a mind altering drug yet they can take SSRI’s or completely change their gender with puberty blockers while underage.

Teens are already mentally not all the way there so imagine with medication

You can’t drink until 21 but you can buy a gun at 18.

Guns should require a safety class and test (like driving lessons) that come with a cost and parental and medical provider sign-off before anyone gets close to having the privilege to buy a gun.

This is the solution! A start. Banning firearms is the end goal, but this is what we do as soon as we have a real leader in the USA. Or even on state level in states with sensible lawmakers.

Why not just start with the end goal? Don’t you even care about all the people who will still die getting from your “start point” to the end goal? What about them? Don’t they matter? You’re willing to sacrifice them to incremental progress?

That’s F’d up.

Firearms cannot be banned. Not lawfully. Not practically. It is a reality-denying confabulation to insist on magical solutions while ignoring the root causes of psychopathy and criminal violence.

They actually can be banned but Republicans refuse to allow it.

“Banned” like illicit narcotics and all the other contraband in which the country is, and has long been, awash? There is a federal “ban” on marijuana. Illegitimate and unprescribed fentanyl is “banned” everywhere. We all know how that’s worked out.

Do you think we are idiots that don’t know other nations don’t have our gun violence issues?

“Gun violence” is a handy rhetorical buzzword for criminal misuse of firearms.

I didn’t call anybody any names. If somebody feels like they’re an idiot when the error of what purports to be their reasoning becomes evident, that feeling would be for them to examine.

Other nations, as has been repeatedly and exhaustively discussed in this and other threads, are not the same as the United States. There are places in the world where essentially every home has a fully automatic, machine gun, battle rifle, weapon of war, AK pattern rifle. They have plenty of internecine violence but nobody is shooting up schools.

It is delusional to believe that firearms can be magically “disappeared” from the United States, never to reappear. Continuing to posit that as a “solution” to unlawful criminal violence committed with firearms distracts from the real problem of criminal psychopaths and their psychopathic criminal misconduct.

In any event, the point of my post was that paper “bans” may briefly feel satisfying, but that there is a long way between what’s on paper and what’s actually happening in reality.

It's not delusional. We're spending billions and billions and billions of dollars on building concentration camps in swamps. That could go a long long way towards getting rid of a lot of ridiculous weaponry. We have a lot of money. What are we going to do with it?

You might start by locking up for the full duration available under federal law every felon found in possession of a firearm, followed by another full term for the same offense under state law.

I am fine with that approach.

The progressives running D.C., on the other hand, just let criminals go, over and over, even for habitual repeat offenders and armed carjackers.

Charles Allen: I’m talking to you.

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Anonymous wrote:As an elementary school teacher, it broke my heart to see the kids being interviewed and struck me how they were not at all surprised that this happened to them. Our kids are growing up expecting to go through an active shooter situation at school.

We are breeding the next generation of domestic terrorists.

+1 How can this be the world we leave to our children?

It's only the "world" in the US. Other civilized countries don't have this issue.

I've told my kids who have dual citizenship with a European country to seriously think about moving there if they have kids. The US is a horrible place to raise children.

My friend moved to Portugal with her family, including little kids. They never ever worry about school shootings, or shootings anywhere.

If you think other civilized countries in the world don’t have this problem you are ill informed. It might not be guns in Europe but there are now frequent mass killings using vehicles and knives.

Sydney, Australia mall killings April 2024. Man uses knife to kill 6 people and injure 12.

Norway July 2011. Man sets off bomb in Oslo killing 7 then goes to an island where there was a youth camp and killed 69 people there.

Germany 6 dead, 200 injured in Dec 2024 Christmas market attack. 2016 Christmas market attack in Germany killed 12.

China 2023 man uses knife to kill 6 children in a kindergarten.

China 2024 man uses knife to
Kill 8 and injure 17.

Portugal Sept 2014. 12 year old boy wearing a bulletproof vest stabs six children ages 11-14 at his school.

Austria June 2025 school shooting. 21 year old shoots and kills 9 at a school.

2002 Germany school shooting kills 17.

Jokela Germany school shooting in 2007 kills 9.

Finland school shooting 2008 kills 10. Gunman was inspired by 2007 German killing.

May 2023 school shooting in Serbia kills 10.

Chech Republic Dec 2023 school shooting 15 dead

Swedish school shooting 2025 former student kills 10.

I don’t think it should be legal to have the type and variety of guns that are available in the US but I no longer believe in banning guns. It’s too late.

I think the internet should be massively censored instead. Online chat rooms of people discussing violence and people being able to look up details of previous school shootings should not be allowed. Media coverage of school shoutings should be censored with no details given of shooter besides sex and age. No names or photos available. This recent school shooter wrote about being inspired by Sandy Hook.

It’s a perverse cycle. Parents want their kids to have a phone in case of a school shooting but the internet on those phones are deadly.

What your argument fails to take into account here is that, while yes other countries do have large scale attacks as well, they are isolated AND FAR LESS FREQUENT than the mass shootings perpetrated in the US. To the extent that crime is easier to commit, the more frequently it will be committed. Guns are everywhere in the US, and it’s so much easier for some dude to pull the trigger a bunch of times than to grab a knife and run around in a rampage. Think about it. Think hard. Most twenty something male would-be killers are not going to get up close and personal with a knife to a bunch of school children. They’re too cowardly and it’s too personal of a crime. But a gun takes the personal out of it, and the guns are everywhere. Thus, the guns have to go. All of them.

I like how none of the gun advocates have responded to this one. It’s just really stumped them. Guns are easy, knives are not.

Oh no. I think it's because your post was pointless and inane.

DP. No. You can't counter it, so you pull the usual.

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Anonymous wrote:For trans people being so rare, they sure do commit a lot of school shootings.

Isn't it like 2, out of a total of about 1000 school shootings over the last 5 years?

There have been 89 “mass shootings” over the past 5 years. Of which at least 3 have been confirmed to be by trans people.
Trans people make up 0.5% of the population and have committed over 3% of mass shootings the past 5 years.

https://rockinst.org/gun-violence/mass-shooting-factsheet/

There have been more than 89 mass shootings in the last five years and trans people are more than .5%.

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Were they all at schools?

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Whether motivated by reproductive issues, trans-issues or sheer bigotry, anti-Catholic extremism is the most dangerous terrorist threat to America in 2025.

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Anonymous wrote:For trans people being so rare, they sure do commit a lot of school shootings.

Isn't it like 2, out of a total of about 1000 school shootings over the last 5 years?

There have been 89 “mass shootings” over the past 5 years. Of which at least 3 have been confirmed to be by trans people.
Trans people make up 0.5% of the population and have committed over 3% of mass shootings the past 5 years.

https://rockinst.org/gun-violence/mass-shooting-factsheet/

There have been more than 89 mass shootings in the last five years and trans people are more than .5%.

Not according to the statistics. Look it up yourself. Sorry you don’t like facts.

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Anonymous wrote:For trans people being so rare, they sure do commit a lot of school shootings.

Isn't it like 2, out of a total of about 1000 school shootings over the last 5 years?

There have been 89 “mass shootings” over the past 5 years. Of which at least 3 have been confirmed to be by trans people.
Trans people make up 0.5% of the population and have committed over 3% of mass shootings the past 5 years.

https://rockinst.org/gun-violence/mass-shooting-factsheet/

Now do men.