Official Kamala Harris VP Thread

[Anonymous]

I find Shapiro pretty meh overall but I understand the blue wall logic if that’s how they decide to go. I think Walz and Kelly would have broader appeal but unions won’t like Kelly and there’s the huge problem of his seat. I’d like to see more of Walz—so far he seems like a strong pick.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It’s going to be Shapiro.

I would doubt it. Despite the progress we've made over the last few decades, the fact is that Shapiro's Jewish heritage is going to be a detriment on the national stage. Especially with the recent focus on the Israel-Hamas war. There are plenty of people in swing states who will see his heritage as a liability and that won't help Harris' campaign in the swing states. Antisemitism and the current pro-Palestinian sentiments will make something that should be inconsequential, much more significant.

I personally think is currently between Kelly and Beshear. Beshear will be very influential in the midWest and will is likely to sway Michigan and Wisconsin and maybe even cut back on the Ohio effect from JD Vance. The urban areas of Ohio are likely to come out for Beshear especially since suburban Cincinnati is actually in Kentucky. Beshear is a very familiar and liked politican in the midwest. I think Beshear is also much more likely to sway Virginia and North Carolina than Kelly would. The man who has executive experience as a Democratic governor with a Republican dominated legislature and still able to get things done goes a long way towards shoring up people's confidence in the ticket.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s going to be Shapiro.

I would doubt it. Despite the progress we've made over the last few decades, the fact is that Shapiro's Jewish heritage is going to be a detriment on the national stage. Especially with the recent focus on the Israel-Hamas war. There are plenty of people in swing states who will see his heritage as a liability and that won't help Harris' campaign in the swing states. Antisemitism and the current pro-Palestinian sentiments will make something that should be inconsequential, much more significant.

I personally think is currently between Kelly and Beshear. Beshear will be very influential in the midWest and will is likely to sway Michigan and Wisconsin and maybe even cut back on the Ohio effect from JD Vance. The urban areas of Ohio are likely to come out for Beshear especially since suburban Cincinnati is actually in Kentucky. Beshear is a very familiar and liked politican in the midwest. I think Beshear is also much more likely to sway Virginia and North Carolina than Kelly would. The man who has executive experience as a Democratic governor with a Republican dominated legislature and still able to get things done goes a long way towards shoring up people's confidence in the ticket.

I forgot to add that Kelly's nomination would also put the Democratic Senate seat in Arizona up for grabs and that's dangerous too. Beshear is a lame-duck governor and so his loss will not be nearly as significant for the Democratic party. It is likely that they would be losing the Kentucky governor's office to a Republican when the seat is next up for election (2027).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

It will be Shapiro’s if he wants it. Swing state governor, very moderate. Kamala needs a white man in order to not completely hemmorage white men to Trump.

Republicans will go full out in painting a black woman as antisemitic/anti-Israel. Shapiro neutralizes that entire line of attack, plus will keep Jewish donors engaged/excited.

Nah. Shapiro would suck a lot of the energy out of the base, particularly women and youth.

His attempts to ban state workers from participating in protests against Israeli policies were a First Amendment violation, and demonstrate a lack of understanding regarding how Americans are responding to the brutal attacks on Gazan civilians.

His attempts to transfer public funds to private religious schools through school vouchers are a repudiation of public school parents, who make up a majority of Democratic voters.

Finally, hiring a known sexual harasser to his team shows that he prioritizes political experience over the safety of young women on his team.

Harris must know how toxic he is, and she can't win without women and young people.

Exactly. These are the reasons he's not a good pick.

I do wonder if there's a bit of disagreement between the party as to who should get the VP nod seems like we're getting a lot of choices thrown out to the public

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

It will be Shapiro’s if he wants it. Swing state governor, very moderate. Kamala needs a white man in order to not completely hemmorage white men to Trump.

Republicans will go full out in painting a black woman as antisemitic/anti-Israel. Shapiro neutralizes that entire line of attack, plus will keep Jewish donors engaged/excited.

Nah. Shapiro would suck a lot of the energy out of the base, particularly women and youth.

His attempts to ban state workers from participating in protests against Israeli policies were a First Amendment violation, and demonstrate a lack of understanding regarding how Americans are responding to the brutal attacks on Gazan civilians.

His attempts to transfer public funds to private religious schools through school vouchers are a repudiation of public school parents, who make up a majority of Democratic voters.

Finally, hiring a known sexual harasser to his team shows that he prioritizes political experience over the safety of young women on his team.

Harris must know how toxic he is, and she can't win without women and young people.

Exactly. These are the reasons he's not a good pick.

I do wonder if there's a bit of disagreement between the party as to who should get the VP nod seems like we're getting a lot of choices thrown out to the public

No, the reason for the delay is that the Harris team is working feverishly to vet these candidates. They want to make sure that there are no hidden bombs in their past. With the ones that were DAs and prosecutors, they have to sift through their legal career and find all the cases that these prosecutors tried and make sure that there aren't any embarassing issues. So, work history, personal history, family history, etc. It takes a lot of man-hours to conduct these background checks. Normally they have weeks to do these background checks. They start early and they work hard. Now they have days. I'm guessing they have a soft-deadline for next Wednesday (July 31) to try and hone in on the best candidate.

At this point, she has 2-3 good options and they are trying to find the one with the least background issues.

[Anonymous]

The answer is clear..should be Beshear!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The answer is clear..should be Beshear!

I have been saying this all along.

He helps in GA and NC and doesn't hurt in WI/MI/PA.

Heck, he may sway some votes in Pennsyltucky!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The answer is clear..should be Beshear!

He was my number one.

Now thinking Walz or Kelly

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

It will be Shapiro’s if he wants it. Swing state governor, very moderate. Kamala needs a white man in order to not completely hemmorage white men to Trump.

Republicans will go full out in painting a black woman as antisemitic/anti-Israel. Shapiro neutralizes that entire line of attack, plus will keep Jewish donors engaged/excited.

Nah. Shapiro would suck a lot of the energy out of the base, particularly women and youth.

His attempts to ban state workers from participating in protests against Israeli policies were a First Amendment violation, and demonstrate a lack of understanding regarding how Americans are responding to the brutal attacks on Gazan civilians.

His attempts to transfer public funds to private religious schools through school vouchers are a repudiation of public school parents, who make up a majority of Democratic voters.

Finally, hiring a known sexual harasser to his team shows that he prioritizes political experience over the safety of young women on his team.

Harris must know how toxic he is, and she can't win without women and young people.

Exactly. These are the reasons he's not a good pick.

I do wonder if there's a bit of disagreement between the party as to who should get the VP nod seems like we're getting a lot of choices thrown out to the public

No, the reason for the delay is that the Harris team is working feverishly to vet these candidates. They want to make sure that there are no hidden bombs in their past. With the ones that were DAs and prosecutors, they have to sift through their legal career and find all the cases that these prosecutors tried and make sure that there aren't any embarassing issues. So, work history, personal history, family history, etc. It takes a lot of man-hours to conduct these background checks. Normally they have weeks to do these background checks. They start early and they work hard. Now they have days. I'm guessing they have a soft-deadline for next Wednesday (July 31) to try and hone in on the best candidate.

At this point, she has 2-3 good options and they are trying to find the one with the least background issues.

+1 I posted something similar in the larger KH for president thread. Done well, ordinarily this is a months long process. Many of these potential VPs were prosecutors and they need to look at every case and that’s just the career piece. I’ve since heard an interview with Susan Rice who was vetted as a possible for Biden and she said it was multiple times more scrutiny than any security clearance experience she had. They even interviewed her kids who weren’t adults yet at the time.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

It will be Shapiro’s if he wants it. Swing state governor, very moderate. Kamala needs a white man in order to not completely hemmorage white men to Trump.

Republicans will go full out in painting a black woman as antisemitic/anti-Israel. Shapiro neutralizes that entire line of attack, plus will keep Jewish donors engaged/excited.

Nah. Shapiro would suck a lot of the energy out of the base, particularly women and youth.

His attempts to ban state workers from participating in protests against Israeli policies were a First Amendment violation, and demonstrate a lack of understanding regarding how Americans are responding to the brutal attacks on Gazan civilians.

His attempts to transfer public funds to private religious schools through school vouchers are a repudiation of public school parents, who make up a majority of Democratic voters.

Finally, hiring a known sexual harasser to his team shows that he prioritizes political experience over the safety of young women on his team.

Harris must know how toxic he is, and she can't win without women and young people.

Exactly. These are the reasons he's not a good pick.

I do wonder if there's a bit of disagreement between the party as to who should get the VP nod seems like we're getting a lot of choices thrown out to the public

No, the reason for the delay is that the Harris team is working feverishly to vet these candidates. They want to make sure that there are no hidden bombs in their past. With the ones that were DAs and prosecutors, they have to sift through their legal career and find all the cases that these prosecutors tried and make sure that there aren't any embarassing issues. So, work history, personal history, family history, etc. It takes a lot of man-hours to conduct these background checks. Normally they have weeks to do these background checks. They start early and they work hard. Now they have days. I'm guessing they have a soft-deadline for next Wednesday (July 31) to try and hone in on the best candidate.

At this point, she has 2-3 good options and they are trying to find the one with the least background issues.

I mean these candidates didn't materialize out of nowhere just a week ago or even a month ago after the ill fated debate. They have been vetted . They have been on the list if you will. I don't think there's complete party agreement on who to go with. While none of the names are Vance level bad who will cause votes to be lost+ maybe Shapiro) it's a question of who will add the most votes and which demographic to target to grab votes
They are testing public reaction.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It’s going to be Shapiro.

No. I think he's too problematic for a VP pick

I think he might show up somewhere else in the administration

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s going to be Shapiro.

No. I think he's too problematic for a VP pick

I think he might show up somewhere else in the administration

No reason to take a popular govenor out of a swing state unless they are term limited. Perhaps in a second Harris term.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The answer is clear..should be Beshear!

I have been saying this all along.

He helps in GA and NC and doesn't hurt in WI/MI/PA.

Heck, he may sway some votes in Pennsyltucky!

I would add, Walz seems like a good number 2, but he would be too old to run at the right time, and having an open primary at that juncture is not good planning.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The answer is clear..should be Beshear!

I have been saying this all along.

He helps in GA and NC and doesn't hurt in WI/MI/PA.

Heck, he may sway some votes in Pennsyltucky!

I would add, Walz seems like a good number 2, but he would be too old to run at the right time, and having an open primary at that juncture is not good planning.

Replacing a VP in 2028 is not a huge deal.
Besides we're supposed to be working on passing the torch and focusing on policies and not faces. So having the same faces 8 years in a row shouldn't be the priority.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

It will be Shapiro’s if he wants it. Swing state governor, very moderate. Kamala needs a white man in order to not completely hemmorage white men to Trump.

Republicans will go full out in painting a black woman as antisemitic/anti-Israel. Shapiro neutralizes that entire line of attack, plus will keep Jewish donors engaged/excited.

Nah. Shapiro would suck a lot of the energy out of the base, particularly women and youth.

His attempts to ban state workers from participating in protests against Israeli policies were a First Amendment violation, and demonstrate a lack of understanding regarding how Americans are responding to the brutal attacks on Gazan civilians.

His attempts to transfer public funds to private religious schools through school vouchers are a repudiation of public school parents, who make up a majority of Democratic voters.

Finally, hiring a known sexual harasser to his team shows that he prioritizes political experience over the safety of young women on his team.

Harris must know how toxic he is, and she can't win without women and young people.

Exactly. These are the reasons he's not a good pick.

I do wonder if there's a bit of disagreement between the party as to who should get the VP nod seems like we're getting a lot of choices thrown out to the public

No, the reason for the delay is that the Harris team is working feverishly to vet these candidates. They want to make sure that there are no hidden bombs in their past. With the ones that were DAs and prosecutors, they have to sift through their legal career and find all the cases that these prosecutors tried and make sure that there aren't any embarassing issues. So, work history, personal history, family history, etc. It takes a lot of man-hours to conduct these background checks. Normally they have weeks to do these background checks. They start early and they work hard. Now they have days. I'm guessing they have a soft-deadline for next Wednesday (July 31) to try and hone in on the best candidate.

At this point, she has 2-3 good options and they are trying to find the one with the least background issues.

I mean these candidates didn't materialize out of nowhere just a week ago or even a month ago after the ill fated debate. They have been vetted . They have been on the list if you will. I don't think there's complete party agreement on who to go with. While none of the names are Vance level bad who will cause votes to be lost+ maybe Shapiro) it's a question of who will add the most votes and which demographic to target to grab votes
They are testing public reaction.

They've been vetted before, but not to the degree that a POTUS or VPOTUS candidate is going to need done. The level of scrutiny that they will come under as a national candidate with every media outlet putting their entire lives under a microscope is unlike anything they've been treated to even as candidates for governor, Senate, etc. For instance, governors and Senators may or may not have their entire work career hyperanalyzed, but you can bet that there are going to b journalists, or lobbyists or political bloggers that will dig through every case that these prosecutors have ever tried. The scale of interest in a (vice)presidential candidate is far higher than even a governor, Senator or Congressman.

Look at what's happened to Vance in the last week. He was vetted and the media is still finding things on him that the vetting team missed. It is very hard to analyze a person's full life even in weeks and Harris' teams is going do it in days. They are skipping anything that has already been analyzed by these people in the past. They are digging deep to try to find anything that might come up. Everyone typically has something that may not be ideal for them. The Harris team just needs to know about things and have an answer crafted in case anyone finds anything.