The Blind Side scandal

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Anonymous wrote:They’re voluntarily terminating the conservatorship. Let’s see where this is in five year. The Tuohy’s will remain successful, Oher will be broke.

How voluntary is something when you have to be sued to do it?

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Anonymous wrote:Marty Singer clients: folks like Charlie Sheen (who said MS ensures his clients get a "happy ending"), Bill Cosby, Jim Carrey, and now Lizzo. A lovely bunch. He's known for spin and suppressing unflattering stories. If they have nothing to hide, why hire him? Hmm.

Because he has been the best entertainment litigator in the country for 30 years that’s why. You are mad because they hired the best lawyer?

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Anonymous wrote:They’re voluntarily terminating the conservatorship. Let’s see where this is in five year. The Tuohy’s will remain successful, Oher will be broke.

How voluntary is something when you have to be sued to do it?

I evidence he ever asked. In fact they are saying he never asked.

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Anonymous wrote:Oher is a perfect example of what happens when you try to do the right things in life. MYOB.

The right thing being manipulating a talented homeless kid in going to your alma mater?

Seems like it worked out pretty well for him.

So we all should just shut up and ignore the fact that this was all one big lie and they led an 18 year old at risk kid astray. Wow, what great people they are.

I would agree with you but so far there is no lie. He knew about the conservatorship. He is lying now in his petition. You can’t put it your book a decade ago and now say you did not know.

Also how was he led astray? He did better at ole miss than he would have other places because they took care of him because of the family. When in college he got into a fight with a fellow player. During the fight Michael threw a desk or chair and it hit a toddler who was a kid of an assistant coach. Toddler was rushed to hospital with serious injuries. Kid was ok. Ole miss coach got Sean. Sean paid a financial settlement to the assistant coach’s family. Sean also hired a lawyer who shot down the police investigation. Ole miss did not throw him out as they would have great player or not because of the book and the family. He was not led astray.

And he played nfl football and made millions for himself. Who knows what their motives were or why they were advised to do a conservativeship over adoption but there’s no reason to assume he’s a victim here.

You don't want him to be a victim. You'll bend your mind into knots to make that couple/family not be the problem.

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What is this successful millionaire former NFL player a victim of exactly?

People lying to him and manipulating him for decades.

You slow?

OK but now we know no one lied to him like he claimed. How have the manipulated them. He has not spoken with them in 10 years.

No, we know that they LIED to him.

Umm. No we do not. We have no idea.

So he’s been planning this since at least 2011?
Why wouldn’t they terminate the conservatorship at any time? Why would they keep legal power over him if they haven’t spoke in 10 years. Why have they still not done that?

It looks like he has been planning this for about a decade. At least 3-4 times before he has made a run with lawyers and the lawyers quit after looking at the evidence. This is the first set that never looked first.

That doesn’t explain away why the never ended the conservatorship and why they never went through a legal adult adoption. Stop making excuses for them.

Why would you? Would you? It’s been 29 years. It does not do anything. He never asked and we know he knew. Why open it back up? No rational person would.

Okay I’m officially convinced this is Marty or a member of the family.

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Anonymous wrote:Marty Singer clients: folks like Charlie Sheen (who said MS ensures his clients get a "happy ending"), Bill Cosby, Jim Carrey, and now Lizzo. A lovely bunch. He's known for spin and suppressing unflattering stories. If they have nothing to hide, why hire him? Hmm.

Because he has been the best entertainment litigator in the country for 30 years that’s why. You are mad because they hired the best lawyer?

If they felt they had truth on their side and wanted full transparency, why hire a pittbull lawyer known for exactly the opposite?

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Anonymous wrote:Oher is a perfect example of what happens when you try to do the right things in life. MYOB.

The right thing being manipulating a talented homeless kid in going to your alma mater?

Seems like it worked out pretty well for him.

So we all should just shut up and ignore the fact that this was all one big lie and they led an 18 year old at risk kid astray. Wow, what great people they are.

I would agree with you but so far there is no lie. He knew about the conservatorship. He is lying now in his petition. You can’t put it your book a decade ago and now say you did not know.

Also how was he led astray? He did better at ole miss than he would have other places because they took care of him because of the family. When in college he got into a fight with a fellow player. During the fight Michael threw a desk or chair and it hit a toddler who was a kid of an assistant coach. Toddler was rushed to hospital with serious injuries. Kid was ok. Ole miss coach got Sean. Sean paid a financial settlement to the assistant coach’s family. Sean also hired a lawyer who shot down the police investigation. Ole miss did not throw him out as they would have great player or not because of the book and the family. He was not led astray.

And he played nfl football and made millions for himself. Who knows what their motives were or why they were advised to do a conservativeship over adoption but there’s no reason to assume he’s a victim here.

You don't want him to be a victim. You'll bend your mind into knots to make that couple/family not be the problem.

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Victim of what? His net worth is higher than their bio son. Does he help support SJ? They bailed him out of trouble and got him on a pretty lucrative nfl track, which they got no money from.

People lying to him and manipulating him for decades.

Just stop. This is a grown man. Not some little baby. Time to move on.

He’s a grown man who hired a lawyer.

I guess it has to be said: lying/fraud is not ok.

Even he knows he wasn't lied to.

And that’s a lie. No wonder you are defending these liars.

“ Since at least August of 2004, Conservators have allowed Michael, specifically, and the public, generally, to believe that Conservators adopted Michael and have used that untruth to gain financial advantages for themselves and the foundations which they own or which they exercise control”

Why did Michael write this in his book in 2011:

"It kind of felt like a formality, as I'd been a part of the family for more than a year at that point. Since I was already over the age of eighteen and considered an adult by the state of Tennessee, Sean and Leigh Anne would be named as my 'legal conservators,'" Oher said. "They explained to me that it means pretty much the exact same thing as 'adoptive parents,' but that the laws were just written in a way that took my age into account. Honestly, I didn't care what it was called. I was just happy that no one could argue that we weren't legally what we already knew was real: We were a family."

He didn't just find out about this. That's the lie.

We don’t know who wrote that. AND it’s clearly not the “exact same thing”.

They lied to him. For many years.

It's in HIS book. But keep doubling down.

I take it you’re unfamiliar with celebrity book writing?

AND it’s clearly not the “exact same thing”.

Are you suggesting that Oher lied when he listed himself as an author?

So that’s a no. You are NOT familiar with the process.

https://www.grammarly.com/blog/ghostwriter/#:~:text=A%20ghostwriter%20is%20hired%20to,t%20be%20credited%20at%20all.

https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2022/oct/30/confessions-of-a-ghost-writer-alexandra-heminsley

Hahaha you think that will fly?

That’s just how ghostwriting works.

Anyway, adoption is clearly not the “exact same thing”.

Unfortunately he can’t claim ignorance. His name is on the book.

The book says:
“They explained to me that it means pretty much the exact same thing as 'adoptive parents,' but that the laws were just written in a way that took my age into account. “

They lied to him and said it was the same thing.

This isn’t hard to understand! He was an 18 year old child who was desperate for a family and they manipulated and lied to him. Just because he used the word conservatorship a decade ago doesn’t mean he is lying. Context is everything.

Maybe he should have read his book at some point.

Umm no that wouldn’t help because he very extremely clearly didn’t understand what it meant. Is there really more than one of you that doesn’t get it?

Why didn't he understand in 2011? What was the great awakening in Feb 2023 ? Why did the light bulb suddenly go on?

Maybe he went to do something but was prevented by the conservatorship. They currently have legal control of him.

They lied to him:
“ They explained to me that it means pretty much the exact same thing as ‘adoptive parents,”

They never used that legal control. They never used the conservatorship except with the ncaa.

That’s a point of dispute though. We will see if that’s actually true as the litigation progresses.

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Anonymous wrote:They’re voluntarily terminating the conservatorship. Let’s see where this is in five year. The Tuohy’s will remain successful, Oher will be broke.

How voluntary is something when you have to be sued to do it?

I evidence he ever asked. In fact they are saying he never asked.

But why would he need to ask?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Marty Singer clients: folks like Charlie Sheen (who said MS ensures his clients get a "happy ending"), Bill Cosby, Jim Carrey, and now Lizzo. A lovely bunch. He's known for spin and suppressing unflattering stories. If they have nothing to hide, why hire him? Hmm.

Because he has been the best entertainment litigator in the country for 30 years that’s why. You are mad because they hired the best lawyer?

If they felt they had truth on their side and wanted full transparency, why hire a pittbull lawyer known for exactly the opposite?

Were you just born yesterday? If you have deep pockets and are being sued, you hire the best.

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Without them he does not go to college. His grades were way too low to meet ncaa standards. He needed miss Sue plus college courses that they paid for. Those college courses got a higher grade because they were college. So an A was not 4.0 it was 4.5 or higher. That is how he made it. Without college there is no nfl.

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Anonymous wrote:Marty Singer clients: folks like Charlie Sheen (who said MS ensures his clients get a "happy ending"), Bill Cosby, Jim Carrey, and now Lizzo. A lovely bunch. He's known for spin and suppressing unflattering stories. If they have nothing to hide, why hire him? Hmm.

Why are you so threatened by this lawyer?
Scares his clients will prevail ?

DP. You must not be a lawyer. Them prevailing wouldn’t even mean that what Michael is saying is necessarily untrue.

Michael wants money. Not to clear the air.

Ok and the Touhy’s wanted fame, not to adopt a kid.

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Anonymous wrote:They’re voluntarily terminating the conservatorship. Let’s see where this is in five year. The Tuohy’s will remain successful, Oher will be broke.

How voluntary is something when you have to be sued to do it?

I evidence he ever asked. In fact they are saying he never asked.

But why would he need to ask?

Exactly. No need to ask because it is not relevant because it never did anything.

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Anonymous wrote:Oher is a perfect example of what happens when you try to do the right things in life. MYOB.

The right thing being manipulating a talented homeless kid in going to your alma mater?

Seems like it worked out pretty well for him.

So we all should just shut up and ignore the fact that this was all one big lie and they led an 18 year old at risk kid astray. Wow, what great people they are.

I would agree with you but so far there is no lie. He knew about the conservatorship. He is lying now in his petition. You can’t put it your book a decade ago and now say you did not know.

Also how was he led astray? He did better at ole miss than he would have other places because they took care of him because of the family. When in college he got into a fight with a fellow player. During the fight Michael threw a desk or chair and it hit a toddler who was a kid of an assistant coach. Toddler was rushed to hospital with serious injuries. Kid was ok. Ole miss coach got Sean. Sean paid a financial settlement to the assistant coach’s family. Sean also hired a lawyer who shot down the police investigation. Ole miss did not throw him out as they would have great player or not because of the book and the family. He was not led astray.

And he played nfl football and made millions for himself. Who knows what their motives were or why they were advised to do a conservativeship over adoption but there’s no reason to assume he’s a victim here.

You don't want him to be a victim. You'll bend your mind into knots to make that couple/family not be the problem.

+1

What is this successful millionaire former NFL player a victim of exactly?

People lying to him and manipulating him for decades.

You slow?

OK but now we know no one lied to him like he claimed. How have the manipulated them. He has not spoken with them in 10 years.

No, we know that they LIED to him.

Umm. No we do not. We have no idea.

So he’s been planning this since at least 2011?
Why wouldn’t they terminate the conservatorship at any time? Why would they keep legal power over him if they haven’t spoke in 10 years. Why have they still not done that?

It looks like he has been planning this for about a decade. At least 3-4 times before he has made a run with lawyers and the lawyers quit after looking at the evidence. This is the first set that never looked first.

That doesn’t explain away why the never ended the conservatorship and why they never went through a legal adult adoption. Stop making excuses for them.

Why would you? Would you? It’s been 29 years. It does not do anything. He never asked and we know he knew. Why open it back up? No rational person would.

Your own bs is he was threatening them and didn’t even invite them to a wedding. Why would you NOT terminate a conservatorship with someone who you have that kind of relationship with? Why wouldn’t you protect yourself? You’re like a dog with a bone re: the Tuhoys and it’s sad and pathetic.

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Anonymous wrote:Marty Singer clients: folks like Charlie Sheen (who said MS ensures his clients get a "happy ending"), Bill Cosby, Jim Carrey, and now Lizzo. A lovely bunch. He's known for spin and suppressing unflattering stories. If they have nothing to hide, why hire him? Hmm.

Why are you so threatened by this lawyer?
Scares his clients will prevail ?

DP. You must not be a lawyer. Them prevailing wouldn’t even mean that what Michael is saying is necessarily untrue.

Michael wants money. Not to clear the air.

Ok and the Touhy’s wanted fame, not to adopt a kid.

Ok. So what? Nobody is losing sleep over this.

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Anonymous wrote:Oher is a perfect example of what happens when you try to do the right things in life. MYOB.

The right thing being manipulating a talented homeless kid in going to your alma mater?

Seems like it worked out pretty well for him.

So we all should just shut up and ignore the fact that this was all one big lie and they led an 18 year old at risk kid astray. Wow, what great people they are.

I would agree with you but so far there is no lie. He knew about the conservatorship. He is lying now in his petition. You can’t put it your book a decade ago and now say you did not know.

Also how was he led astray? He did better at ole miss than he would have other places because they took care of him because of the family. When in college he got into a fight with a fellow player. During the fight Michael threw a desk or chair and it hit a toddler who was a kid of an assistant coach. Toddler was rushed to hospital with serious injuries. Kid was ok. Ole miss coach got Sean. Sean paid a financial settlement to the assistant coach’s family. Sean also hired a lawyer who shot down the police investigation. Ole miss did not throw him out as they would have great player or not because of the book and the family. He was not led astray.

And he played nfl football and made millions for himself. Who knows what their motives were or why they were advised to do a conservativeship over adoption but there’s no reason to assume he’s a victim here.

You don't want him to be a victim. You'll bend your mind into knots to make that couple/family not be the problem.

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Victim of what? His net worth is higher than their bio son. Does he help support SJ? They bailed him out of trouble and got him on a pretty lucrative nfl track, which they got no money from.

People lying to him and manipulating him for decades.

Just stop. This is a grown man. Not some little baby. Time to move on.

He’s a grown man who hired a lawyer.

I guess it has to be said: lying/fraud is not ok.

Even he knows he wasn't lied to.

And that’s a lie. No wonder you are defending these liars.

“ Since at least August of 2004, Conservators have allowed Michael, specifically, and the public, generally, to believe that Conservators adopted Michael and have used that untruth to gain financial advantages for themselves and the foundations which they own or which they exercise control”

Why did Michael write this in his book in 2011:

"It kind of felt like a formality, as I'd been a part of the family for more than a year at that point. Since I was already over the age of eighteen and considered an adult by the state of Tennessee, Sean and Leigh Anne would be named as my 'legal conservators,'" Oher said. "They explained to me that it means pretty much the exact same thing as 'adoptive parents,' but that the laws were just written in a way that took my age into account. Honestly, I didn't care what it was called. I was just happy that no one could argue that we weren't legally what we already knew was real: We were a family."

He didn't just find out about this. That's the lie.

We don’t know who wrote that. AND it’s clearly not the “exact same thing”.

They lied to him. For many years.

It's in HIS book. But keep doubling down.

I take it you’re unfamiliar with celebrity book writing?

AND it’s clearly not the “exact same thing”.

Are you suggesting that Oher lied when he listed himself as an author?

So that’s a no. You are NOT familiar with the process.

https://www.grammarly.com/blog/ghostwriter/#:~:text=A%20ghostwriter%20is%20hired%20to,t%20be%20credited%20at%20all.

https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2022/oct/30/confessions-of-a-ghost-writer-alexandra-heminsley

Hahaha you think that will fly?

That’s just how ghostwriting works.

Anyway, adoption is clearly not the “exact same thing”.

Unfortunately he can’t claim ignorance. His name is on the book.

The book says:
“They explained to me that it means pretty much the exact same thing as 'adoptive parents,' but that the laws were just written in a way that took my age into account. “

They lied to him and said it was the same thing.

This isn’t hard to understand! He was an 18 year old child who was desperate for a family and they manipulated and lied to him. Just because he used the word conservatorship a decade ago doesn’t mean he is lying. Context is everything.

Maybe he should have read his book at some point.

Umm no that wouldn’t help because he very extremely clearly didn’t understand what it meant. Is there really more than one of you that doesn’t get it?

Why didn't he understand in 2011? What was the great awakening in Feb 2023 ? Why did the light bulb suddenly go on?

Maybe he went to do something but was prevented by the conservatorship. They currently have legal control of him.

They lied to him:
“ They explained to me that it means pretty much the exact same thing as ‘adoptive parents,”

They never used that legal control. They never used the conservatorship except with the ncaa.

That’s a point of dispute though. We will see if that’s actually true as the litigation progresses.

First of all it is not a lawsuit. It is a petition asking for to cancel the conservatorship and for an accounting. This is very limited. Most of the questions raised on this board will not be addressed.

We know it is true because Oher has controlled his own life the whole time.

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Anonymous wrote:Oher is a perfect example of what happens when you try to do the right things in life. MYOB.

The right thing being manipulating a talented homeless kid in going to your alma mater?

Seems like it worked out pretty well for him.

So we all should just shut up and ignore the fact that this was all one big lie and they led an 18 year old at risk kid astray. Wow, what great people they are.

I would agree with you but so far there is no lie. He knew about the conservatorship. He is lying now in his petition. You can’t put it your book a decade ago and now say you did not know.

Also how was he led astray? He did better at ole miss than he would have other places because they took care of him because of the family. When in college he got into a fight with a fellow player. During the fight Michael threw a desk or chair and it hit a toddler who was a kid of an assistant coach. Toddler was rushed to hospital with serious injuries. Kid was ok. Ole miss coach got Sean. Sean paid a financial settlement to the assistant coach’s family. Sean also hired a lawyer who shot down the police investigation. Ole miss did not throw him out as they would have great player or not because of the book and the family. He was not led astray.

And he played nfl football and made millions for himself. Who knows what their motives were or why they were advised to do a conservativeship over adoption but there’s no reason to assume he’s a victim here.

You don't want him to be a victim. You'll bend your mind into knots to make that couple/family not be the problem.

+1

Victim of what? His net worth is higher than their bio son. Does he help support SJ? They bailed him out of trouble and got him on a pretty lucrative nfl track, which they got no money from.

People lying to him and manipulating him for decades.

Just stop. This is a grown man. Not some little baby. Time to move on.

A grown man who’s $35 million richer thanks to them. Whatever their motives, he benefited too.

Where do you get off saying that his successful nfl career is due to the lying grifters? His being a talented athlete had nothing to do with them. If they hadn’t “adopted “ him he could have gone to a better college. All the grifters did was steer him to their college so they’d look like heroes for the school.

He was having trouble with his GPA to be eligible to play in the NCAA. They set him up on a course to succeed (tutoring, online school etc) while feeding, supporting, and putting a roof over his head. He had the talent, but was going to miss an opportunity without someone guiding him.

This is so common. He didn’t need them to do this. More savior bs. Schools deal with this all the time and find ways to get the gpa where it needs to be.

Ok, so why did he take the help? It was forced on him?

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Because he was a vulnerable foster child who was desperate for a stable family. All of your responses are classic gaslighting and it’s gross.