Ukrainian victory over Russia is inevitable

Anonymous
From today’s NYT, Serge Schmemann, Editorial Board Member:

“Ukraine should not pass up an opportunity to end the bloodshed. Recovered territory is not the only measure of victory in this war.

A painful reality check shows the 600-mile-long Ukrainian-Russian front in a figurative and literal freeze, draining Ukrainian resources and lives without much prospect for change in the foreseeable future. The much-anticipated Ukrainian counteroffensive of the past six months exacted a huge cost in casualties and matériel, but barely nudged the front lines.”
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:From today’s NYT, Serge Schmemann, Editorial Board Member:

“Ukraine should not pass up an opportunity to end the bloodshed. Recovered territory is not the only measure of victory in this war.

A painful reality check shows the 600-mile-long Ukrainian-Russian front in a figurative and literal freeze, draining Ukrainian resources and lives without much prospect for change in the foreseeable future. The much-anticipated Ukrainian counteroffensive of the past six months exacted a huge cost in casualties and matériel, but barely nudged the front lines.”


🤣

Politico also running something similar so it’s being coordinated from sullivan’s office

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2023/12/27/biden-endgame-ukraine-00133211

Anonymous
Regardless of all the intricacies people are talking about, sometimes it’s good to remember the big picture:

1) Russia invaded Ukraine, completely unprovoked, and Ukraine never posed a threat to Russia.

2) For America, this is a DC board trolls, this war is already a big victory for the US. No lives lost and a decimated stockpile of Soviet equipment for Russia. They will never be able to restock all that equipment which was built over decades by a much larger and powerful country, the Soviet Union. The US needs to continue supplying Ukraine to continue the slow bleed out of Russian legacy equipment and ammunition.
Anonymous
“No lives lost” 🤮 only Ukrainians, right?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:From today’s NYT, Serge Schmemann, Editorial Board Member:

“Ukraine should not pass up an opportunity to end the bloodshed. Recovered territory is not the only measure of victory in this war.

A painful reality check shows the 600-mile-long Ukrainian-Russian front in a figurative and literal freeze, draining Ukrainian resources and lives without much prospect for change in the foreseeable future. The much-anticipated Ukrainian counteroffensive of the past six months exacted a huge cost in casualties and matériel, but barely nudged the front lines.”


How bizarre. Why would a French born columnist write this? Oh, right. "He grew up speaking Russian at home, but visited his ancestral homeland for the first time only in 1980 when he arrived with his family as Moscow correspondent for the Associated Press."

Now that we understand where his sympathies lie, this article makes more sense now. I think this is why Serge wrote the article:

"A second group of Russian occupiers from the 71st regiment of the Russian Armed Forces surrendered on the Zaporizhzhya front, reporting mistreatment by the Russian command and significant losses"
"Commanders of the 71st regiment are accused of deploying groups of recently mobilized and unprepared soldiers, including those under contract, for daily storming operations."
"The Russian command reportedly compelled soldiers from the 71st regiment to pre-record New Year greetings before storming operations, possibly to conceal losses from the Russian public."
https://www.yahoo.com/news/russian-mass-surrender-zaporizhzhya-sector-162900025.html

Sound familiar? (Hint. Turn back a page.) Quipping about a kilometer of dirt lost here or there is not the point. This is what matters:

"Over less than 24 hours only, the Ukrainian Defence Forces paralyzed 760 Russian occupiers and destroyed 19 tanks and 31 armored personnel carriers"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bxl9WNAywWQ

"The newly formed 337th Airborne Regiment of the Russian Armed Forces continues to suffer losses"
"the entire first company of the 337th Regiment was destroyed"
"the servicemen operating in this direction lack effective leadership at the mid-level commanders, they lack artillery support, and they spend 20 consecutive days in trenches without water and other supplies"
"the Commander of the Airborne Regiment, Lieutenant General Mikhail Teplinsky, and the Russian commanders of Airborne Regiment are also facing problems of insubordination within the ranks of the 104th Airborne Regiment Division"
"a video from December 24, showing how a Russian commander punishes several soldiers of the newly formed 345th Airborne Regiment of 104th Airborne Regiment Division for not obeying his orders, forcing them to jump into a pit completely naked at night"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6J6S1oq0SM

The SMO would take only four days, remember? Every day that Ukraine does not capitulate is a day of humiliation for Putin. Nothing will change that. The Ukrainians are to be admired for every day they fight.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Regardless of all the intricacies people are talking about, sometimes it’s good to remember the big picture:

1) Russia invaded Ukraine, completely unprovoked, and Ukraine never posed a threat to Russia.

2) For America, this is a DC board trolls, this war is already a big victory for the US. No lives lost and a decimated stockpile of Soviet equipment for Russia. They will never be able to restock all that equipment which was built over decades by a much larger and powerful country, the Soviet Union. The US needs to continue supplying Ukraine to continue the slow bleed out of Russian legacy equipment and ammunition.


The lesson that will be learned is that Western democracies have incredibly short memories, and incredibly little ability to commit to a coherent policy to oppose a non-democratic invader. Russia has won a victory and now knows that it can win wars of attrition against the west.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Regardless of all the intricacies people are talking about, sometimes it’s good to remember the big picture:

1) Russia invaded Ukraine, completely unprovoked, and Ukraine never posed a threat to Russia.

2) For America, this is a DC board trolls, this war is already a big victory for the US. No lives lost and a decimated stockpile of Soviet equipment for Russia. They will never be able to restock all that equipment which was built over decades by a much larger and powerful country, the Soviet Union. The US needs to continue supplying Ukraine to continue the slow bleed out of Russian legacy equipment and ammunition.


The lesson that will be learned is that Western democracies have incredibly short memories, and incredibly little ability to commit to a coherent policy to oppose a non-democratic invader. Russia has won a victory and now knows that it can win wars of attrition against the west.


I’d hardly call where Russia is a win. They’ve taken about 10% of Ukraine territory (in addition to about 7% which they controlled from 2014). The territory they’ve taken is complete rubble.

What did the 10% cost them? A majority of their Soviet stock of weapons and ammunition built over many decades. A further increase in demographic issues, lives lost and a further decline in birth rate. A troubled currency and busting of trading relationships. A brain drain of professionals.

I can’t see how land is with it, this isn’t hundreds of years ago where land held more value. Productive economies are based on people these days. Also, the drain will continue, I doubt Ukraine will be quitting this war anytime soon.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Regardless of all the intricacies people are talking about, sometimes it’s good to remember the big picture:

1) Russia invaded Ukraine, completely unprovoked, and Ukraine never posed a threat to Russia.

2) For America, this is a DC board trolls, this war is already a big victory for the US. No lives lost and a decimated stockpile of Soviet equipment for Russia. They will never be able to restock all that equipment which was built over decades by a much larger and powerful country, the Soviet Union. The US needs to continue supplying Ukraine to continue the slow bleed out of Russian legacy equipment and ammunition.


The lesson that will be learned is that Western democracies have incredibly short memories, and incredibly little ability to commit to a coherent policy to oppose a non-democratic invader. Russia has won a victory and now knows that it can win wars of attrition against the west.



Oh please. This war would have been over in a month if Russia had chosen to engage with NATO forces.

The West does not fight wars of attrition. No American or Norwegian or Canadian is fighting in a trench. There's a little thing called air dominance - F-22, F-35, B-1 and many other systems for which Russia has no answer. Followed by Apaches and gunships. Then artillery systems that make the HIMARS look like Napoleon-era cannons. Then mine clearing. Followed by Styker Brigades to wreck whatever remains. And only then will a NATO infantry boot touch the ground.

Russia lost more than 320,000 soldiers and most of its armor to a Ukrainian civilian army made up on the go and equipped with forty year old NATO equipment that has been gathering cobwebs in warehouses for decades. Not to mention losing a good deal of their air force - another 8 fighter bombers shot down in the past 2 weeks. As well as losing a significant portion of the Black Sea fleet - including its flagship - to a country that doesn't have a navy.

This was a pathetic display for Russia. The world sleeps safer seeing how incompetent and inferior the Russian military truly is. A 3 day special military operation that turned into a catastrophe for Russia. But it's been a great gift to NATO, which due to the addition of Sweden and Finland, became significantly bigger recently. Russia now has a very long border directly with NATO. Great move invading Ukraine. Real big brain thinking.
Anonymous

Biden lost another war.

He’s 0-2. Now the Middle East is exploding which can ruin the world economy. Last month Xi told Biden that China is taking Taiwan peacefully or not which stunned the administration. Biden and his stupid swamp has bumbled into ww3 . Trump is right about how stupid and damaging the DC swamp is.
Anonymous
Russia is definitely on the decline trajectory but it will most likely take many more years and Ukrainian lives to actually decline in a meaningful way.
Anonymous
From the tweet above, these people are now eligible for service in Ukraine:

1. Are missing or blind in one eye
2. Are partially deaf
3. Have a tracheotomy
4. Have jaw defects that prevent normal chewing
5. Suffer from dwarfism (<130cm for men)
6. Have a missing or nonfunctional arm
7. Have an amputated leg up to the thigh
8. Are missing fingers
9. Are missing both feet
10. Have a pacemaker implanted
11. Have only one working kidney
12. Have only one working lung
13. Have suffered from "traumatic castration"
14. Have a brain abscess (!)
15. Have a substantial skull defect
16. Have Parkinson's (!)
17. Have extreme scoliosis
18. Have severe chest deformities
19. Have "severe adrenal insufficiency"
20. Have no bladder.
Anonymous
Apart from small wars and withdrawing from WWI, Russia is impossible to beat.
Western military strategists, some officers, and some academics know this.
However, Russia is doing horribly in this war, and Russians know this. It should get out of it as soon as possible.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Apart from small wars and withdrawing from WWI, Russia is impossible to beat.
Western military strategists, some officers, and some academics know this.
However, Russia is doing horribly in this war, and Russians know this. It should get out of it as soon as possible.


Pre wmd, Japan crushed Russia

Post wmd, it’s impossible to beat Russia but you can bleed it over generations, which is what is the current strategy



Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Regardless of all the intricacies people are talking about, sometimes it’s good to remember the big picture:

1) Russia invaded Ukraine, completely unprovoked, and Ukraine never posed a threat to Russia.

2) For America, this is a DC board trolls, this war is already a big victory for the US. No lives lost and a decimated stockpile of Soviet equipment for Russia. They will never be able to restock all that equipment which was built over decades by a much larger and powerful country, the Soviet Union. The US needs to continue supplying Ukraine to continue the slow bleed out of Russian legacy equipment and ammunition.


The lesson that will be learned is that Western democracies have incredibly short memories, and incredibly little ability to commit to a coherent policy to oppose a non-democratic invader. Russia has won a victory and now knows that it can win wars of attrition against the west.


The US flew halfway around the world took an enemy's capital in three days. Russia, the world's gas station, ran out of gas on their way to their neighbor's capital. Nobody fears Russia any more.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:From the tweet above, these people are now eligible for service in Ukraine:

1. Are missing or blind in one eye
2. Are partially deaf
3. Have a tracheotomy
4. Have jaw defects that prevent normal chewing
5. Suffer from dwarfism (<130cm for men)
6. Have a missing or nonfunctional arm
7. Have an amputated leg up to the thigh
8. Are missing fingers
9. Are missing both feet
10. Have a pacemaker implanted
11. Have only one working kidney
12. Have only one working lung
13. Have suffered from "traumatic castration"
14. Have a brain abscess (!)
15. Have a substantial skull defect
16. Have Parkinson's (!)
17. Have extreme scoliosis
18. Have severe chest deformities
19. Have "severe adrenal insufficiency"
20. Have no bladder.


Meanwhile, healthy male children of elites are chilling in US and Europe, spending all the money Europe and US sends to Ukraine. Ukraine turned into dictatorship and a lot of Ukrainians recognize it now and fleeing the country even in larger numbers than they did in February of 2022.
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