New Additions to Leagues Check Up (ECNL & GA)

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I guess ECRL promotion into ECNL has ended this year? Both girls and boys. Surprisingly fewer clubs got promoted this year, especially given the number of clubs leaving ECNL for MLSnext.

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Anonymous wrote:Well done to the FVU 2013 girls for their top of table finish for the MA U13s. Undefeated to this point with two games remaining. An impressive feat with or without a Super Arl dad.

You mean congrats to Mclean. How may of those girls are from Vienna, or BRYC, or any of the 6 other feeder clubs in FVU?!?! FVU's only hope is that they can steal kids from other clubs whose parents chase th ECNL badge. Brave 2.0 is producing zero without FOMO.

Anyone know why some of those girls are leaving next year?

Like every other situation this year. More playing time and age group changes (or both)

-Yes, looking for more playing time. Playing U13&U14 with 7 players on the bench means there is a lot of travel and effort to not actually be able to play and develop very much.

I also know of players who made VDA's team, but they were literally going into a roster with 21 players on it for next year and declined the VDA offer solely because that would be too many players on 1 team.

At what age is the VDA 21 player roster?

For U13, we had heard that is how many they have signed for next year.

Yeah, hate to tell you but this isnt true. There are 17 or 18. The others they might see are DPs. The one who “declined” is on the roster, looking at the person in playmetrics right now, so seems like facts aren’t correct.

You won't see future players in Playmetrics this season unless you are the coach or on the Admin staff. But my source was 2nd hand as the reason for a declined offer. So, given that, your info would be better than mine.

Wrong. New teams for Next season are already on playmetrics with “future season” next to them. If you accepted a spot, it will be on your playmetrics account. You can go to the roster for that new team and see everyone who has “accepted” the offer/spot for bext season

Thats cool. Ours is not setup that way. Can you see outside of the club players too who are going info next year? I wouldn't think they would be in your system yet.

Yes. If your club created a new team for the next season already on playmetrics and added all the players so far they have offered, sent out offers thru playmetrics and players have accepted, you can see ALL players who have accepted so far, which includes current club players and new players from the outside. Only admins/coaches can see players who were offered but have not accepted or declined.

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Anonymous wrote:I guess ECRL promotion into ECNL has ended this year? Both girls and boys. Surprisingly fewer clubs got promoted this year, especially given the number of clubs leaving ECNL for MLSnext.

who are all these clubs leaving ECNL?

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ECNL promoted 3 RL clubs that bailed on the GA. I was surprised to hear ECNL was taking GA clubs this year (hasn’t happened) because I was told RL is the established grader system for ECNL and clubs would have to make the jump to RL first.

Clubs who are in ECNL are girls focused clubs if boys are also ECNL. If you’re at a GA/MLSN club your club prioritizes boys. They are the money makers.

I don’t see clubs leaving ECNL girls unless they see a strong financial incentive to do.

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Anonymous wrote:ECNL promoted 3 RL clubs that bailed on the GA. I was surprised to hear ECNL was taking GA clubs this year (hasn’t happened) because I was told RL is the established grader system for ECNL and clubs would have to make the jump to RL first.

Clubs who are in ECNL are girls focused clubs if boys are also ECNL. If you’re at a GA/MLSN club your club prioritizes boys. They are the money makers.

I don’t see clubs leaving ECNL girls unless they see a strong financial incentive to do.

This is most likely true. My daughter’s GA club was offered ECNL boys/girls last year if club left MLSN. Club said no. Which is frustrating because as a girl parent I could care less about boys soccer.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm a GA parent ... I don't see any Top 30 clubs moving to GA from ECNL anytime. Not even sure GA will get 31-60.

And since the majority of the top clubs produce the stats that ECNL loves to have, I don't agree ENCL slowly declining.

ECNL could lose clubs 61-100 to GA and they still have all the stats they want and all they really care about from those first 60 clubs

I hear what you’re saying, and I’d agree.. today ECNL still has the top 30 pretty locked in.

But as an ECNL parent, I’ve started hearing more chatter lately that makes me think it’s not as locked as it seems. There are rumors floating around about big clubs at least exploring a move to Girls Academy tied to getting into MLS Next on the boys side for 27–28.

If even a couple of those types of clubs make that jump, it changes the conversation quickly. It’s not about 61–100, that doesn’t move the needle. But if clubs in that 20–50 range start making decisions based on pathway alignment instead of just league prestige, that’s where things get interesting.

ECNL will still have strong clubs, no doubt. But the idea that the top 60 are untouchable might not hold if the MLS Next piece starts influencing decisions more than it has in the past.

blah blah blah rumors - no top ECNL club is moving to GA

Hold on... We talked for 20 pages about rumors of GA teams moving to ECNL. Its time to start speculating about who will move to GA to get MLS Next.

I know one Club that wants to be in GA + MLS Next

Arlington

I know of at least 3 top ECNL boys teams that have applied for MLS Next for 27-28

But what about the girls? If ECNL makes them choose and they end up moving girls to GA, are they strong enough to have an impact?

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Anonymous wrote:I guess ECRL promotion into ECNL has ended this year? Both girls and boys. Surprisingly fewer clubs got promoted this year, especially given the number of clubs leaving ECNL for MLSnext.

who are all these clubs leaving ECNL?

Two PA clubs that have ECNL teams merged, applied MLSnext and got accepted for the coming season.At least in the boys side.

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Anonymous wrote:I guess ECRL promotion into ECNL has ended this year? Both girls and boys. Surprisingly fewer clubs got promoted this year, especially given the number of clubs leaving ECNL for MLSnext.

who are all these clubs leaving ECNL?

Two PA clubs that have ECNL teams merged, applied MLSnext and got accepted for the coming season.At least in the boys side.

They’re TERRIBLE in girls. Will probably be top 30 in GA.

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Anonymous wrote:I guess ECRL promotion into ECNL has ended this year? Both girls and boys. Surprisingly fewer clubs got promoted this year, especially given the number of clubs leaving ECNL for MLSnext.

who are all these clubs leaving ECNL?

Two PA clubs that have ECNL teams merged, applied MLSnext and got accepted for the coming season.At least in the boys side.

Yeah, and screwed the girls over (who were not ECNL to begin with). All those girls have moved to other clubs in tryouts. Please show where girls ECNL good teams are leaving.

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Anonymous wrote:I guess ECRL promotion into ECNL has ended this year? Both girls and boys. Surprisingly fewer clubs got promoted this year, especially given the number of clubs leaving ECNL for MLSnext.

who are all these clubs leaving ECNL?

Two PA clubs that have ECNL teams merged, applied MLSnext and got accepted for the coming season.At least in the boys side.

Yeah, and screwed the girls over (who were not ECNL to begin with). All those girls have moved to other clubs in tryouts. Please show where girls ECNL good teams are leaving.

So if the girls weren’t even in ECNL, how does this move for the boys screw over the girls?

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Anonymous wrote:Well done to the FVU 2013 girls for their top of table finish for the MA U13s. Undefeated to this point with two games remaining. An impressive feat with or without a Super Arl dad.

You mean congrats to Mclean. How may of those girls are from Vienna, or BRYC, or any of the 6 other feeder clubs in FVU?!?! FVU's only hope is that they can steal kids from other clubs whose parents chase th ECNL badge. Brave 2.0 is producing zero without FOMO.

Anyone know why some of those girls are leaving next year?

Like every other situation this year. More playing time and age group changes (or both)

-Yes, looking for more playing time. Playing U13&U14 with 7 players on the bench means there is a lot of travel and effort to not actually be able to play and develop very much.

I also know of players who made VDA's team, but they were literally going into a roster with 21 players on it for next year and declined the VDA offer solely because that would be too many players on 1 team.

At what age is the VDA 21 player roster?

For U13, we had heard that is how many they have signed for next year.

Yeah, hate to tell you but this isnt true. There are 17 or 18. The others they might see are DPs. The one who “declined” is on the roster, looking at the person in playmetrics right now, so seems like facts aren’t correct.

You won't see future players in Playmetrics this season unless you are the coach or on the Admin staff. But my source was 2nd hand as the reason for a declined offer. So, given that, your info would be better than mine.

Wrong. New teams for Next season are already on playmetrics with “future season” next to them. If you accepted a spot, it will be on your playmetrics account. You can go to the roster for that new team and see everyone who has “accepted” the offer/spot for bext season

Thats cool. Ours is not setup that way. Can you see outside of the club players too who are going info next year? I wouldn't think they would be in your system yet.

Yes. If your club created a new team for the next season already on playmetrics and added all the players so far they have offered, sent out offers thru playmetrics and players have accepted, you can see ALL players who have accepted so far, which includes current club players and new players from the outside. Only admins/coaches can see players who were offered but have not accepted or declined.

How? New to playmetrics and see the registration but that's it

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Anonymous wrote:Well done to the FVU 2013 girls for their top of table finish for the MA U13s. Undefeated to this point with two games remaining. An impressive feat with or without a Super Arl dad.

You mean congrats to Mclean. How may of those girls are from Vienna, or BRYC, or any of the 6 other feeder clubs in FVU?!?! FVU's only hope is that they can steal kids from other clubs whose parents chase th ECNL badge. Brave 2.0 is producing zero without FOMO.

Anyone know why some of those girls are leaving next year?

Like every other situation this year. More playing time and age group changes (or both)

-Yes, looking for more playing time. Playing U13&U14 with 7 players on the bench means there is a lot of travel and effort to not actually be able to play and develop very much.

I also know of players who made VDA's team, but they were literally going into a roster with 21 players on it for next year and declined the VDA offer solely because that would be too many players on 1 team.

At what age is the VDA 21 player roster?

For U13, we had heard that is how many they have signed for next year.

Yeah, hate to tell you but this isnt true. There are 17 or 18. The others they might see are DPs. The one who “declined” is on the roster, looking at the person in playmetrics right now, so seems like facts aren’t correct.

You won't see future players in Playmetrics this season unless you are the coach or on the Admin staff. But my source was 2nd hand as the reason for a declined offer. So, given that, your info would be better than mine.

Wrong. New teams for Next season are already on playmetrics with “future season” next to them. If you accepted a spot, it will be on your playmetrics account. You can go to the roster for that new team and see everyone who has “accepted” the offer/spot for bext season

Thats cool. Ours is not setup that way. Can you see outside of the club players too who are going info next year? I wouldn't think they would be in your system yet.

Yes. If your club created a new team for the next season already on playmetrics and added all the players so far they have offered, sent out offers thru playmetrics and players have accepted, you can see ALL players who have accepted so far, which includes current club players and new players from the outside. Only admins/coaches can see players who were offered but have not accepted or declined.

How? New to playmetrics and see the registration but that's it

Are you fully registered? Paid the deposit and received confirmation email? If so, on the app, look down at the bottom and
Click on teams. It will show you what you teams you are currently registered in say this current season and any teams you are registered for in the future. Fo example I have 2 teams that pop up, 1 for the current season still ongoing and a new one for next seasons team (future). Click on the next seasons team (future) then close to the top you will see “Summary” with a drop down, click on that and then click on “roster”

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Anonymous wrote:Well done to the FVU 2013 girls for their top of table finish for the MA U13s. Undefeated to this point with two games remaining. An impressive feat with or without a Super Arl dad.

You mean congrats to Mclean. How may of those girls are from Vienna, or BRYC, or any of the 6 other feeder clubs in FVU?!?! FVU's only hope is that they can steal kids from other clubs whose parents chase th ECNL badge. Brave 2.0 is producing zero without FOMO.

Anyone know why some of those girls are leaving next year?

Like every other situation this year. More playing time and age group changes (or both)

-Yes, looking for more playing time. Playing U13&U14 with 7 players on the bench means there is a lot of travel and effort to not actually be able to play and develop very much.

I also know of players who made VDA's team, but they were literally going into a roster with 21 players on it for next year and declined the VDA offer solely because that would be too many players on 1 team.

At what age is the VDA 21 player roster?

For U13, we had heard that is how many they have signed for next year.

Yeah, hate to tell you but this isnt true. There are 17 or 18. The others they might see are DPs. The one who “declined” is on the roster, looking at the person in playmetrics right now, so seems like facts aren’t correct.

You won't see future players in Playmetrics this season unless you are the coach or on the Admin staff. But my source was 2nd hand as the reason for a declined offer. So, given that, your info would be better than mine.

Wrong. New teams for Next season are already on playmetrics with “future season” next to them. If you accepted a spot, it will be on your playmetrics account. You can go to the roster for that new team and see everyone who has “accepted” the offer/spot for bext season

Thats cool. Ours is not setup that way. Can you see outside of the club players too who are going info next year? I wouldn't think they would be in your system yet.

Yes. If your club created a new team for the next season already on playmetrics and added all the players so far they have offered, sent out offers thru playmetrics and players have accepted, you can see ALL players who have accepted so far, which includes current club players and new players from the outside. Only admins/coaches can see players who were offered but have not accepted or declined.

How? New to playmetrics and see the registration but that's it

Are you fully registered? Paid the deposit and received confirmation email? If so, on the app, look down at the bottom and
Click on teams. It will show you what you teams you are currently registered in say this current season and any teams you are registered for in the future. Fo example I have 2 teams that pop up, 1 for the current season still ongoing and a new one for next seasons team (future). Click on the next seasons team (future) then close to the top you will see “Summary” with a drop down, click on that and then click on “roster”

Yes, got the confirmation email and paid the deposit last month. I can see that it is paid in the app but I don't see anything on teams. Maybe it is a setting that club can toggle?

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Anonymous wrote:Well done to the FVU 2013 girls for their top of table finish for the MA U13s. Undefeated to this point with two games remaining. An impressive feat with or without a Super Arl dad.

You mean congrats to Mclean. How may of those girls are from Vienna, or BRYC, or any of the 6 other feeder clubs in FVU?!?! FVU's only hope is that they can steal kids from other clubs whose parents chase th ECNL badge. Brave 2.0 is producing zero without FOMO.

Anyone know why some of those girls are leaving next year?

Like every other situation this year. More playing time and age group changes (or both)

-Yes, looking for more playing time. Playing U13&U14 with 7 players on the bench means there is a lot of travel and effort to not actually be able to play and develop very much.

I also know of players who made VDA's team, but they were literally going into a roster with 21 players on it for next year and declined the VDA offer solely because that would be too many players on 1 team.

At what age is the VDA 21 player roster?

For U13, we had heard that is how many they have signed for next year.

Yeah, hate to tell you but this isnt true. There are 17 or 18. The others they might see are DPs. The one who “declined” is on the roster, looking at the person in playmetrics right now, so seems like facts aren’t correct.

You won't see future players in Playmetrics this season unless you are the coach or on the Admin staff. But my source was 2nd hand as the reason for a declined offer. So, given that, your info would be better than mine.

Wrong. New teams for Next season are already on playmetrics with “future season” next to them. If you accepted a spot, it will be on your playmetrics account. You can go to the roster for that new team and see everyone who has “accepted” the offer/spot for bext season

Thats cool. Ours is not setup that way. Can you see outside of the club players too who are going info next year? I wouldn't think they would be in your system yet.

Yes. If your club created a new team for the next season already on playmetrics and added all the players so far they have offered, sent out offers thru playmetrics and players have accepted, you can see ALL players who have accepted so far, which includes current club players and new players from the outside. Only admins/coaches can see players who were offered but have not accepted or declined.

How? New to playmetrics and see the registration but that's it

Are you fully registered? Paid the deposit and received confirmation email? If so, on the app, look down at the bottom and
Click on teams. It will show you what you teams you are currently registered in say this current season and any teams you are registered for in the future. Fo example I have 2 teams that pop up, 1 for the current season still ongoing and a new one for next seasons team (future). Click on the next seasons team (future) then close to the top you will see “Summary” with a drop down, click on that and then click on “roster”

Yes, got the confirmation email and paid the deposit last month. I can see that it is paid in the app but I don't see anything on teams. Maybe it is a setting that club can toggle?

Forgot to mention I don't see any "Teams" option at the bottom of the screen. Just home, programs, forms , contact and the menu button

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Anonymous wrote:Now that GA showcase is over ... Boom incoming soon!

tomorrow

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I’ll admit it, Girls Academy held the line this window better than I expected.

Going in, it felt like ECNL had a real shot to make a move and grab momentum, but that didn’t happen. GA didn’t lose any key clubs, and actually added some decent ones.

At this point, it’s pretty clear the MLS Next partnership is starting to pay off. There’s more stability, more credibility, and now they’ve got enough traction to really start shaping the narrative instead of reacting to it.

ECNL isn't standing still, tho. They're partnering with the USYS to give more up-in-coming/strong regional clubs an incentive to not seek MLSN/GA. In the past few years, that's where MLSN/GA's new clubs largely came from -- clubs that did well in USYS NL -- and many of these clubs did it because they were losing their best players to ECNL and no longer want to be feeders. They want to compete.

So, ECNL would rather stop/control it with the incentive that staying in this league provides opportunities for clubs to eventually get to ECNL/RL, etc. So, with ECNL's help, can this is new N1 league that was just formed do better than E64 OR Premier 1/2 combo with better events/competition/attract college coaches? That's their bet.

What's interesting, tho, is so far, everyone favoring this was because maybe it was less travel. Looking at the regions, it doesn't look like that.