Men in your 50s, do you find women in their 50s attractive?

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Anonymous wrote:All things being equal - regular exercise, good diet, no smoking - it's easier for a good looking 25 year old man to become a good looking 50 year old man as long as he continues with a healthy lifestyle. I think it's much tougher for a good looking 25 year old woman to become a good looking 50 year old woman - even with a continuous healthy lifestyle.

But there are plenty of exceptions. Gillian Anderson was and remains a beautiful woman. But what we see in Hollywood has never been reflective of what we see at the school pick up line. It's easier for 50 year old men who do the basic work - run, lift, eat well, avoid alcohol, do some yoga, get 8 hours of sleep, and dress reasonably well - to get second and third looks at the grocery store. While that remains true for some women, the luck of the genetic lottery factors much more prominently when it comes to who looks good going into their 50s.

So getting back to the original point, there are a lot of men that will find Gillian Anderson very attractive. But she's not typical for a woman in her 50s. It's much easier for a man to be a George Clooney or Daniel Craig in their 50s, then it is for a woman to be a Selma Hayek or Elizabeth Hurley in their 50s.

It’s not that men inherently “age better”. It’s that society, tv, movies, etc, has portrayed the aging man as still attractive.

Whereas, an aging actress gets replaced by a younger one more readily while the same age man is still a lead character.

Those magazines with “sexiest men” columns always have older men pictured. But the sexiest women ones are all young, bikini bodied women.

This has completely infiltrated the psyche of society.

I am a guy and I agree with you. I think it's not only unfair but ignorant to compare how men and women age. Men have a massive advantage, it's called testosterone. Even with low T men into late 50s early 60s have an advantage when they work out eat healthy etc. Women on the other hand as they loose estrogen their body, voice, skin, etc go through changes some of which are quite profound. But that's because we are comparing them to their younger versions.

This is so delusional it’s sad. People keep mentioning George Clooney and Brad Pitt. But have you seen pictures of them lately? Brad Pitt has had so much work done. It’s insane. He looks like a washed up Vegas act.

Go look at recent photos from this weekend of George Clooney and Amal. Then scroll through the comments. Comment after comment of oh my gosh George Clooney has gotten so old. What a shame he was so good looking he’s gotten so old.

These men have insane genetics that 99.9% of men don’t have, and all the money in the world to do whatever they can to maintain their looks. Granted they are 60, but the average 50 year-old looks like an average 50 year old man and the average 50 year old is not getting women in their 20s or even their early to mid 30s. Most men in their 50s are with… Women in their 50s! Or possibly 40s. Just look at the data. Don’t take my word for it. Or you could step out into the real world and look around. Most people are dating people around their age.

Men do not have some sort of secret anti-aging power: if they did this poor 45 year old tech billionaire wouldn’t be spending billions measuring his nighttime erections. And trying to reverse it to where he’s 18 again: https://fortune.com/well/2023/01/26/bryan-johnson-extreme-anti-aging/

Uh the PP was actually defending older women. He was saying that part of the reasons sometimes men "may" age better could have to do with testosterone.

A 55 years old man can just go the gym have a descent diet and be able to keep a healthy weight. For a similar woman it's different. It's much harder for example for women to keep the weight off just by dieting and going to the gym and it's not her fault, she has her biology making it harder.

I don’t know. I see a lot of men in their 50s with dad bods. It might be easier, but it’s clearly not easy.

I eat really well and exercise regularly so have stayed the same weight in my 40s and feel like my body is even better since I quit drinking 10 years ago and I do think alcohol ages both sexes.

That's because they are lazy. If they tried they can achieve the same results in 1/2 the time and effort a woman of similar age would need. You are an outlier to be honest. Loosing weight and keeping a healthy weight is much harder to achieve for a woman. As women loose estrogen it affects fat distribution but you know that already.

A healthy weight for a 50-something woman is not thin. There’s an evolutionary reason our bodies hold onto weight as we get older. A frail and undernourished older woman is not healthy.

Thin does not mean frail and undernourished, even post menopause.

Activitly dieting post 50 to keep a BMI in the “thin” range generally means being too thin. Obesity is obviously unhealthy but a BMI around 26-27 is likely the healthiest. Anyone who has ever seen a 70 year old woman with an eating disorder knows what I mean. Exercise is far more crucial to health as you age than being “thin.”

Evidence please, you are just spouting nonsense.

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Anonymous wrote:The inherent problem is that men and women are valued for different things. Women are attracted to power, confidence and money and men to fertility.

This does not mean men get better looking with age. On the contrary, all else being equal, men peak around 35 and then gradually decline.

But yes, as a 50 year old man I find some 50 year old women very attractive but there are less of them than at age 25 and I am sure it's the same for women finding 50 year old men attractive, some of us but less than at 35

The only reason why this is true is because we live in a patriarchy. Even men must comply, so the pressure to be successful affects you so also. Men live under the patriarchy too.

If men were only attracted to fertility then no woman over any age would be attractive. You could take a random infertile woman at 29 and you wouldn’t be attracted. It doesn’t make sense. Women also like men when they look good you know. Things have changed because women can now make their own money. Before we couldn’t. And we “needed to like power and money“. There are women who are smart there and when young are looking to get ahead and they forgo love for money. They don’t need to, but it’s easy you know.

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Activitly dieting post 50 to keep a BMI in the “thin” range generally means being too thin. Obesity is obviously unhealthy but a BMI around 26-27 is likely the healthiest.

"Likely the healthiest?" Don't be ridiculous.

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Anonymous wrote:All things being equal - regular exercise, good diet, no smoking - it's easier for a good looking 25 year old man to become a good looking 50 year old man as long as he continues with a healthy lifestyle. I think it's much tougher for a good looking 25 year old woman to become a good looking 50 year old woman - even with a continuous healthy lifestyle.

But there are plenty of exceptions. Gillian Anderson was and remains a beautiful woman. But what we see in Hollywood has never been reflective of what we see at the school pick up line. It's easier for 50 year old men who do the basic work - run, lift, eat well, avoid alcohol, do some yoga, get 8 hours of sleep, and dress reasonably well - to get second and third looks at the grocery store. While that remains true for some women, the luck of the genetic lottery factors much more prominently when it comes to who looks good going into their 50s.

So getting back to the original point, there are a lot of men that will find Gillian Anderson very attractive. But she's not typical for a woman in her 50s. It's much easier for a man to be a George Clooney or Daniel Craig in their 50s, then it is for a woman to be a Selma Hayek or Elizabeth Hurley in their 50s.

It’s not that men inherently “age better”. It’s that society, tv, movies, etc, has portrayed the aging man as still attractive.

Whereas, an aging actress gets replaced by a younger one more readily while the same age man is still a lead character.

Those magazines with “sexiest men” columns always have older men pictured. But the sexiest women ones are all young, bikini bodied women.

This has completely infiltrated the psyche of society.

I am a guy and I agree with you. I think it's not only unfair but ignorant to compare how men and women age. Men have a massive advantage, it's called testosterone. Even with low T men into late 50s early 60s have an advantage when they work out eat healthy etc. Women on the other hand as they loose estrogen their body, voice, skin, etc go through changes some of which are quite profound. But that's because we are comparing them to their younger versions.

This is so delusional it’s sad. People keep mentioning George Clooney and Brad Pitt. But have you seen pictures of them lately? Brad Pitt has had so much work done. It’s insane. He looks like a washed up Vegas act.

Go look at recent photos from this weekend of George Clooney and Amal. Then scroll through the comments. Comment after comment of oh my gosh George Clooney has gotten so old. What a shame he was so good looking he’s gotten so old.

These men have insane genetics that 99.9% of men don’t have, and all the money in the world to do whatever they can to maintain their looks. Granted they are 60, but the average 50 year-old looks like an average 50 year old man and the average 50 year old is not getting women in their 20s or even their early to mid 30s. Most men in their 50s are with… Women in their 50s! Or possibly 40s. Just look at the data. Don’t take my word for it. Or you could step out into the real world and look around. Most people are dating people around their age.

Men do not have some sort of secret anti-aging power: if they did this poor 45 year old tech billionaire wouldn’t be spending billions measuring his nighttime erections. And trying to reverse it to where he’s 18 again: https://fortune.com/well/2023/01/26/bryan-johnson-extreme-anti-aging/

Uh the PP was actually defending older women. He was saying that part of the reasons sometimes men "may" age better could have to do with testosterone.

A 55 years old man can just go the gym have a descent diet and be able to keep a healthy weight. For a similar woman it's different. It's much harder for example for women to keep the weight off just by dieting and going to the gym and it's not her fault, she has her biology making it harder.

I don’t know. I see a lot of men in their 50s with dad bods. It might be easier, but it’s clearly not easy.

I eat really well and exercise regularly so have stayed the same weight in my 40s and feel like my body is even better since I quit drinking 10 years ago and I do think alcohol ages both sexes.

That's because they are lazy. If they tried they can achieve the same results in 1/2 the time and effort a woman of similar age would need. You are an outlier to be honest. Loosing weight and keeping a healthy weight is much harder to achieve for a woman. As women loose estrogen it affects fat distribution but you know that already.

A healthy weight for a 50-something woman is not thin. There’s an evolutionary reason our bodies hold onto weight as we get older. A frail and undernourished older woman is not healthy.

Thin does not mean frail and undernourished, even post menopause.

Activitly dieting post 50 to keep a BMI in the “thin” range generally means being too thin. Obesity is obviously unhealthy but a BMI around 26-27 is likely the healthiest. Anyone who has ever seen a 70 year old woman with an eating disorder knows what I mean. Exercise is far more crucial to health as you age than being “thin.”

Evidence please, you are just spouting nonsense.

LOL you seriously think if you don’t have some extra weight to lose in your 70s that cancer won’t take you down quick? Or even a serious virus? You need “sources” because you have no common sense.

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Anonymous wrote:All things being equal - regular exercise, good diet, no smoking - it's easier for a good looking 25 year old man to become a good looking 50 year old man as long as he continues with a healthy lifestyle. I think it's much tougher for a good looking 25 year old woman to become a good looking 50 year old woman - even with a continuous healthy lifestyle.

But there are plenty of exceptions. Gillian Anderson was and remains a beautiful woman. But what we see in Hollywood has never been reflective of what we see at the school pick up line. It's easier for 50 year old men who do the basic work - run, lift, eat well, avoid alcohol, do some yoga, get 8 hours of sleep, and dress reasonably well - to get second and third looks at the grocery store. While that remains true for some women, the luck of the genetic lottery factors much more prominently when it comes to who looks good going into their 50s.

So getting back to the original point, there are a lot of men that will find Gillian Anderson very attractive. But she's not typical for a woman in her 50s. It's much easier for a man to be a George Clooney or Daniel Craig in their 50s, then it is for a woman to be a Selma Hayek or Elizabeth Hurley in their 50s.

It’s not that men inherently “age better”. It’s that society, tv, movies, etc, has portrayed the aging man as still attractive.

Whereas, an aging actress gets replaced by a younger one more readily while the same age man is still a lead character.

Those magazines with “sexiest men” columns always have older men pictured. But the sexiest women ones are all young, bikini bodied women.

This has completely infiltrated the psyche of society.

I am a guy and I agree with you. I think it's not only unfair but ignorant to compare how men and women age. Men have a massive advantage, it's called testosterone. Even with low T men into late 50s early 60s have an advantage when they work out eat healthy etc. Women on the other hand as they loose estrogen their body, voice, skin, etc go through changes some of which are quite profound. But that's because we are comparing them to their younger versions.

This is so delusional it’s sad. People keep mentioning George Clooney and Brad Pitt. But have you seen pictures of them lately? Brad Pitt has had so much work done. It’s insane. He looks like a washed up Vegas act.

Go look at recent photos from this weekend of George Clooney and Amal. Then scroll through the comments. Comment after comment of oh my gosh George Clooney has gotten so old. What a shame he was so good looking he’s gotten so old.

These men have insane genetics that 99.9% of men don’t have, and all the money in the world to do whatever they can to maintain their looks. Granted they are 60, but the average 50 year-old looks like an average 50 year old man and the average 50 year old is not getting women in their 20s or even their early to mid 30s. Most men in their 50s are with… Women in their 50s! Or possibly 40s. Just look at the data. Don’t take my word for it. Or you could step out into the real world and look around. Most people are dating people around their age.

Men do not have some sort of secret anti-aging power: if they did this poor 45 year old tech billionaire wouldn’t be spending billions measuring his nighttime erections. And trying to reverse it to where he’s 18 again: https://fortune.com/well/2023/01/26/bryan-johnson-extreme-anti-aging/

Uh the PP was actually defending older women. He was saying that part of the reasons sometimes men "may" age better could have to do with testosterone.

A 55 years old man can just go the gym have a descent diet and be able to keep a healthy weight. For a similar woman it's different. It's much harder for example for women to keep the weight off just by dieting and going to the gym and it's not her fault, she has her biology making it harder.

I don’t know. I see a lot of men in their 50s with dad bods. It might be easier, but it’s clearly not easy.

I eat really well and exercise regularly so have stayed the same weight in my 40s and feel like my body is even better since I quit drinking 10 years ago and I do think alcohol ages both sexes.

That's because they are lazy. If they tried they can achieve the same results in 1/2 the time and effort a woman of similar age would need. You are an outlier to be honest. Loosing weight and keeping a healthy weight is much harder to achieve for a woman. As women loose estrogen it affects fat distribution but you know that already.

A healthy weight for a 50-something woman is not thin. There’s an evolutionary reason our bodies hold onto weight as we get older. A frail and undernourished older woman is not healthy.

Thin does not mean frail and undernourished, even post menopause.

Activitly dieting post 50 to keep a BMI in the “thin” range generally means being too thin. Obesity is obviously unhealthy but a BMI around 26-27 is likely the healthiest. Anyone who has ever seen a 70 year old woman with an eating disorder knows what I mean. Exercise is far more crucial to health as you age than being “thin.”

Evidence please, you are just spouting nonsense.

LOL you seriously think if you don’t have some extra weight to lose in your 70s that cancer won’t take you down quick? Or even a serious virus? You need “sources” because you have no common sense.

So no evidence. Thanks for confirming. By the way, this discussion is about 50 year old women. Love how you keep moving the goalposts. Now it’s about 70 year old women fighting major health issues.

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Anonymous wrote:All things being equal - regular exercise, good diet, no smoking - it's easier for a good looking 25 year old man to become a good looking 50 year old man as long as he continues with a healthy lifestyle. I think it's much tougher for a good looking 25 year old woman to become a good looking 50 year old woman - even with a continuous healthy lifestyle.

But there are plenty of exceptions. Gillian Anderson was and remains a beautiful woman. But what we see in Hollywood has never been reflective of what we see at the school pick up line. It's easier for 50 year old men who do the basic work - run, lift, eat well, avoid alcohol, do some yoga, get 8 hours of sleep, and dress reasonably well - to get second and third looks at the grocery store. While that remains true for some women, the luck of the genetic lottery factors much more prominently when it comes to who looks good going into their 50s.

So getting back to the original point, there are a lot of men that will find Gillian Anderson very attractive. But she's not typical for a woman in her 50s. It's much easier for a man to be a George Clooney or Daniel Craig in their 50s, then it is for a woman to be a Selma Hayek or Elizabeth Hurley in their 50s.

It’s not that men inherently “age better”. It’s that society, tv, movies, etc, has portrayed the aging man as still attractive.

Whereas, an aging actress gets replaced by a younger one more readily while the same age man is still a lead character.

Those magazines with “sexiest men” columns always have older men pictured. But the sexiest women ones are all young, bikini bodied women.

This has completely infiltrated the psyche of society.

I am a guy and I agree with you. I think it's not only unfair but ignorant to compare how men and women age. Men have a massive advantage, it's called testosterone. Even with low T men into late 50s early 60s have an advantage when they work out eat healthy etc. Women on the other hand as they loose estrogen their body, voice, skin, etc go through changes some of which are quite profound. But that's because we are comparing them to their younger versions.

This is so delusional it’s sad. People keep mentioning George Clooney and Brad Pitt. But have you seen pictures of them lately? Brad Pitt has had so much work done. It’s insane. He looks like a washed up Vegas act.

Go look at recent photos from this weekend of George Clooney and Amal. Then scroll through the comments. Comment after comment of oh my gosh George Clooney has gotten so old. What a shame he was so good looking he’s gotten so old.

These men have insane genetics that 99.9% of men don’t have, and all the money in the world to do whatever they can to maintain their looks. Granted they are 60, but the average 50 year-old looks like an average 50 year old man and the average 50 year old is not getting women in their 20s or even their early to mid 30s. Most men in their 50s are with… Women in their 50s! Or possibly 40s. Just look at the data. Don’t take my word for it. Or you could step out into the real world and look around. Most people are dating people around their age.

Men do not have some sort of secret anti-aging power: if they did this poor 45 year old tech billionaire wouldn’t be spending billions measuring his nighttime erections. And trying to reverse it to where he’s 18 again: https://fortune.com/well/2023/01/26/bryan-johnson-extreme-anti-aging/

Uh the PP was actually defending older women. He was saying that part of the reasons sometimes men "may" age better could have to do with testosterone.

A 55 years old man can just go the gym have a descent diet and be able to keep a healthy weight. For a similar woman it's different. It's much harder for example for women to keep the weight off just by dieting and going to the gym and it's not her fault, she has her biology making it harder.

I don’t know. I see a lot of men in their 50s with dad bods. It might be easier, but it’s clearly not easy.

I eat really well and exercise regularly so have stayed the same weight in my 40s and feel like my body is even better since I quit drinking 10 years ago and I do think alcohol ages both sexes.

That's because they are lazy. If they tried they can achieve the same results in 1/2 the time and effort a woman of similar age would need. You are an outlier to be honest. Loosing weight and keeping a healthy weight is much harder to achieve for a woman. As women loose estrogen it affects fat distribution but you know that already.

A healthy weight for a 50-something woman is not thin. There’s an evolutionary reason our bodies hold onto weight as we get older. A frail and undernourished older woman is not healthy.

Thin does not mean frail and undernourished, even post menopause.

Activitly dieting post 50 to keep a BMI in the “thin” range generally means being too thin. Obesity is obviously unhealthy but a BMI around 26-27 is likely the healthiest. Anyone who has ever seen a 70 year old woman with an eating disorder knows what I mean. Exercise is far more crucial to health as you age than being “thin.”

Evidence please, you are just spouting nonsense.

LOL you seriously think if you don’t have some extra weight to lose in your 70s that cancer won’t take you down quick? Or even a serious virus? You need “sources” because you have no common sense.

DP. That's your excuse for not losing weight? In case you get cancer? Wow.

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Anonymous wrote:All things being equal - regular exercise, good diet, no smoking - it's easier for a good looking 25 year old man to become a good looking 50 year old man as long as he continues with a healthy lifestyle. I think it's much tougher for a good looking 25 year old woman to become a good looking 50 year old woman - even with a continuous healthy lifestyle.

But there are plenty of exceptions. Gillian Anderson was and remains a beautiful woman. But what we see in Hollywood has never been reflective of what we see at the school pick up line. It's easier for 50 year old men who do the basic work - run, lift, eat well, avoid alcohol, do some yoga, get 8 hours of sleep, and dress reasonably well - to get second and third looks at the grocery store. While that remains true for some women, the luck of the genetic lottery factors much more prominently when it comes to who looks good going into their 50s.

So getting back to the original point, there are a lot of men that will find Gillian Anderson very attractive. But she's not typical for a woman in her 50s. It's much easier for a man to be a George Clooney or Daniel Craig in their 50s, then it is for a woman to be a Selma Hayek or Elizabeth Hurley in their 50s.

It’s not that men inherently “age better”. It’s that society, tv, movies, etc, has portrayed the aging man as still attractive.

Whereas, an aging actress gets replaced by a younger one more readily while the same age man is still a lead character.

Those magazines with “sexiest men” columns always have older men pictured. But the sexiest women ones are all young, bikini bodied women.

This has completely infiltrated the psyche of society.

I am a guy and I agree with you. I think it's not only unfair but ignorant to compare how men and women age. Men have a massive advantage, it's called testosterone. Even with low T men into late 50s early 60s have an advantage when they work out eat healthy etc. Women on the other hand as they loose estrogen their body, voice, skin, etc go through changes some of which are quite profound. But that's because we are comparing them to their younger versions.

This is so delusional it’s sad. People keep mentioning George Clooney and Brad Pitt. But have you seen pictures of them lately? Brad Pitt has had so much work done. It’s insane. He looks like a washed up Vegas act.

Go look at recent photos from this weekend of George Clooney and Amal. Then scroll through the comments. Comment after comment of oh my gosh George Clooney has gotten so old. What a shame he was so good looking he’s gotten so old.

These men have insane genetics that 99.9% of men don’t have, and all the money in the world to do whatever they can to maintain their looks. Granted they are 60, but the average 50 year-old looks like an average 50 year old man and the average 50 year old is not getting women in their 20s or even their early to mid 30s. Most men in their 50s are with… Women in their 50s! Or possibly 40s. Just look at the data. Don’t take my word for it. Or you could step out into the real world and look around. Most people are dating people around their age.

Men do not have some sort of secret anti-aging power: if they did this poor 45 year old tech billionaire wouldn’t be spending billions measuring his nighttime erections. And trying to reverse it to where he’s 18 again: https://fortune.com/well/2023/01/26/bryan-johnson-extreme-anti-aging/

Uh the PP was actually defending older women. He was saying that part of the reasons sometimes men "may" age better could have to do with testosterone.

A 55 years old man can just go the gym have a descent diet and be able to keep a healthy weight. For a similar woman it's different. It's much harder for example for women to keep the weight off just by dieting and going to the gym and it's not her fault, she has her biology making it harder.

I don’t know. I see a lot of men in their 50s with dad bods. It might be easier, but it’s clearly not easy.

I eat really well and exercise regularly so have stayed the same weight in my 40s and feel like my body is even better since I quit drinking 10 years ago and I do think alcohol ages both sexes.

That's because they are lazy. If they tried they can achieve the same results in 1/2 the time and effort a woman of similar age would need. You are an outlier to be honest. Loosing weight and keeping a healthy weight is much harder to achieve for a woman. As women loose estrogen it affects fat distribution but you know that already.

A healthy weight for a 50-something woman is not thin. There’s an evolutionary reason our bodies hold onto weight as we get older. A frail and undernourished older woman is not healthy.

Thin does not mean frail and undernourished, even post menopause.

Activitly dieting post 50 to keep a BMI in the “thin” range generally means being too thin. Obesity is obviously unhealthy but a BMI around 26-27 is likely the healthiest. Anyone who has ever seen a 70 year old woman with an eating disorder knows what I mean. Exercise is far more crucial to health as you age than being “thin.”

Evidence please, you are just spouting nonsense.

knock yourself out: https://www.e-agmr.org/upload/pdf/agmr-22-0012.pdf

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Anonymous wrote:All things being equal - regular exercise, good diet, no smoking - it's easier for a good looking 25 year old man to become a good looking 50 year old man as long as he continues with a healthy lifestyle. I think it's much tougher for a good looking 25 year old woman to become a good looking 50 year old woman - even with a continuous healthy lifestyle.

But there are plenty of exceptions. Gillian Anderson was and remains a beautiful woman. But what we see in Hollywood has never been reflective of what we see at the school pick up line. It's easier for 50 year old men who do the basic work - run, lift, eat well, avoid alcohol, do some yoga, get 8 hours of sleep, and dress reasonably well - to get second and third looks at the grocery store. While that remains true for some women, the luck of the genetic lottery factors much more prominently when it comes to who looks good going into their 50s.

So getting back to the original point, there are a lot of men that will find Gillian Anderson very attractive. But she's not typical for a woman in her 50s. It's much easier for a man to be a George Clooney or Daniel Craig in their 50s, then it is for a woman to be a Selma Hayek or Elizabeth Hurley in their 50s.

It’s not that men inherently “age better”. It’s that society, tv, movies, etc, has portrayed the aging man as still attractive.

Whereas, an aging actress gets replaced by a younger one more readily while the same age man is still a lead character.

Those magazines with “sexiest men” columns always have older men pictured. But the sexiest women ones are all young, bikini bodied women.

This has completely infiltrated the psyche of society.

I am a guy and I agree with you. I think it's not only unfair but ignorant to compare how men and women age. Men have a massive advantage, it's called testosterone. Even with low T men into late 50s early 60s have an advantage when they work out eat healthy etc. Women on the other hand as they loose estrogen their body, voice, skin, etc go through changes some of which are quite profound. But that's because we are comparing them to their younger versions.

This is so delusional it’s sad. People keep mentioning George Clooney and Brad Pitt. But have you seen pictures of them lately? Brad Pitt has had so much work done. It’s insane. He looks like a washed up Vegas act.

Go look at recent photos from this weekend of George Clooney and Amal. Then scroll through the comments. Comment after comment of oh my gosh George Clooney has gotten so old. What a shame he was so good looking he’s gotten so old.

These men have insane genetics that 99.9% of men don’t have, and all the money in the world to do whatever they can to maintain their looks. Granted they are 60, but the average 50 year-old looks like an average 50 year old man and the average 50 year old is not getting women in their 20s or even their early to mid 30s. Most men in their 50s are with… Women in their 50s! Or possibly 40s. Just look at the data. Don’t take my word for it. Or you could step out into the real world and look around. Most people are dating people around their age.

Men do not have some sort of secret anti-aging power: if they did this poor 45 year old tech billionaire wouldn’t be spending billions measuring his nighttime erections. And trying to reverse it to where he’s 18 again: https://fortune.com/well/2023/01/26/bryan-johnson-extreme-anti-aging/

Uh the PP was actually defending older women. He was saying that part of the reasons sometimes men "may" age better could have to do with testosterone.

A 55 years old man can just go the gym have a descent diet and be able to keep a healthy weight. For a similar woman it's different. It's much harder for example for women to keep the weight off just by dieting and going to the gym and it's not her fault, she has her biology making it harder.

I don’t know. I see a lot of men in their 50s with dad bods. It might be easier, but it’s clearly not easy.

I eat really well and exercise regularly so have stayed the same weight in my 40s and feel like my body is even better since I quit drinking 10 years ago and I do think alcohol ages both sexes.

That's because they are lazy. If they tried they can achieve the same results in 1/2 the time and effort a woman of similar age would need. You are an outlier to be honest. Loosing weight and keeping a healthy weight is much harder to achieve for a woman. As women loose estrogen it affects fat distribution but you know that already.

A healthy weight for a 50-something woman is not thin. There’s an evolutionary reason our bodies hold onto weight as we get older. A frail and undernourished older woman is not healthy.

Thin does not mean frail and undernourished, even post menopause.

Activitly dieting post 50 to keep a BMI in the “thin” range generally means being too thin. Obesity is obviously unhealthy but a BMI around 26-27 is likely the healthiest. Anyone who has ever seen a 70 year old woman with an eating disorder knows what I mean. Exercise is far more crucial to health as you age than being “thin.”

Evidence please, you are just spouting nonsense.

LOL you seriously think if you don’t have some extra weight to lose in your 70s that cancer won’t take you down quick? Or even a serious virus? You need “sources” because you have no common sense.

Even a 3-day hospital was nearly catastrophic for my very thin MIL. she never really recovered her strength after losing 5 lbs she could not spare.

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Anonymous wrote:All things being equal - regular exercise, good diet, no smoking - it's easier for a good looking 25 year old man to become a good looking 50 year old man as long as he continues with a healthy lifestyle. I think it's much tougher for a good looking 25 year old woman to become a good looking 50 year old woman - even with a continuous healthy lifestyle.

But there are plenty of exceptions. Gillian Anderson was and remains a beautiful woman. But what we see in Hollywood has never been reflective of what we see at the school pick up line. It's easier for 50 year old men who do the basic work - run, lift, eat well, avoid alcohol, do some yoga, get 8 hours of sleep, and dress reasonably well - to get second and third looks at the grocery store. While that remains true for some women, the luck of the genetic lottery factors much more prominently when it comes to who looks good going into their 50s.

So getting back to the original point, there are a lot of men that will find Gillian Anderson very attractive. But she's not typical for a woman in her 50s. It's much easier for a man to be a George Clooney or Daniel Craig in their 50s, then it is for a woman to be a Selma Hayek or Elizabeth Hurley in their 50s.

It’s not that men inherently “age better”. It’s that society, tv, movies, etc, has portrayed the aging man as still attractive.

Whereas, an aging actress gets replaced by a younger one more readily while the same age man is still a lead character.

Those magazines with “sexiest men” columns always have older men pictured. But the sexiest women ones are all young, bikini bodied women.

This has completely infiltrated the psyche of society.

I am a guy and I agree with you. I think it's not only unfair but ignorant to compare how men and women age. Men have a massive advantage, it's called testosterone. Even with low T men into late 50s early 60s have an advantage when they work out eat healthy etc. Women on the other hand as they loose estrogen their body, voice, skin, etc go through changes some of which are quite profound. But that's because we are comparing them to their younger versions.

This is so delusional it’s sad. People keep mentioning George Clooney and Brad Pitt. But have you seen pictures of them lately? Brad Pitt has had so much work done. It’s insane. He looks like a washed up Vegas act.

Go look at recent photos from this weekend of George Clooney and Amal. Then scroll through the comments. Comment after comment of oh my gosh George Clooney has gotten so old. What a shame he was so good looking he’s gotten so old.

These men have insane genetics that 99.9% of men don’t have, and all the money in the world to do whatever they can to maintain their looks. Granted they are 60, but the average 50 year-old looks like an average 50 year old man and the average 50 year old is not getting women in their 20s or even their early to mid 30s. Most men in their 50s are with… Women in their 50s! Or possibly 40s. Just look at the data. Don’t take my word for it. Or you could step out into the real world and look around. Most people are dating people around their age.

Men do not have some sort of secret anti-aging power: if they did this poor 45 year old tech billionaire wouldn’t be spending billions measuring his nighttime erections. And trying to reverse it to where he’s 18 again: https://fortune.com/well/2023/01/26/bryan-johnson-extreme-anti-aging/

Uh the PP was actually defending older women. He was saying that part of the reasons sometimes men "may" age better could have to do with testosterone.

A 55 years old man can just go the gym have a descent diet and be able to keep a healthy weight. For a similar woman it's different. It's much harder for example for women to keep the weight off just by dieting and going to the gym and it's not her fault, she has her biology making it harder.

I don’t know. I see a lot of men in their 50s with dad bods. It might be easier, but it’s clearly not easy.

I eat really well and exercise regularly so have stayed the same weight in my 40s and feel like my body is even better since I quit drinking 10 years ago and I do think alcohol ages both sexes.

That's because they are lazy. If they tried they can achieve the same results in 1/2 the time and effort a woman of similar age would need. You are an outlier to be honest. Loosing weight and keeping a healthy weight is much harder to achieve for a woman. As women loose estrogen it affects fat distribution but you know that already.

A healthy weight for a 50-something woman is not thin. There’s an evolutionary reason our bodies hold onto weight as we get older. A frail and undernourished older woman is not healthy.

Thin does not mean frail and undernourished, even post menopause.

Activitly dieting post 50 to keep a BMI in the “thin” range generally means being too thin. Obesity is obviously unhealthy but a BMI around 26-27 is likely the healthiest. Anyone who has ever seen a 70 year old woman with an eating disorder knows what I mean. Exercise is far more crucial to health as you age than being “thin.”

Evidence please, you are just spouting nonsense.

LOL you seriously think if you don’t have some extra weight to lose in your 70s that cancer won’t take you down quick? Or even a serious virus? You need “sources” because you have no common sense.

DP. That's your excuse for not losing weight? In case you get cancer? Wow.

DP. No, it’s the reason no sensible 50+ woman diets to be “thin.” Prevent obesity sure. But to get to BMI 20? Nope.

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Anonymous wrote:The inherent problem is that men and women are valued for different things. Women are attracted to power, confidence and money and men to fertility.

This does not mean men get better looking with age. On the contrary, all else being equal, men peak around 35 and then gradually decline.

But yes, as a 50 year old man I find some 50 year old women very attractive but there are less of them than at age 25 and I am sure it's the same for women finding 50 year old men attractive, some of us but less than at 35

Yes but power for men is also sexual virility and a young strong body. Why do you think the Trump campaign is constantly putting his head on a young Thor-like body to sell his commemorative coins and all other crap? They want to exude power, which in the patriarchy, for a man is youth and virility in addition to money.

The goalpost for men and women really are not that different.

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Anonymous wrote:The inherent problem is that men and women are valued for different things. Women are attracted to power, confidence and money and men to fertility.

This does not mean men get better looking with age. On the contrary, all else being equal, men peak around 35 and then gradually decline.

But yes, as a 50 year old man I find some 50 year old women very attractive but there are less of them than at age 25 and I am sure it's the same for women finding 50 year old men attractive, some of us but less than at 35

Yes but power for men is also sexual virility and a young strong body. Why do you think the Trump campaign is constantly putting his head on a young Thor-like body to sell his commemorative coins and all other crap? They want to exude power, which in the patriarchy, for a man is youth and virility in addition to money.

The goalpost for men and women really are not that different.

What this when you have time

https://topdocumentaryfilms.com/testosterone-making-man/

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Anonymous wrote:All things being equal - regular exercise, good diet, no smoking - it's easier for a good looking 25 year old man to become a good looking 50 year old man as long as he continues with a healthy lifestyle. I think it's much tougher for a good looking 25 year old woman to become a good looking 50 year old woman - even with a continuous healthy lifestyle.

But there are plenty of exceptions. Gillian Anderson was and remains a beautiful woman. But what we see in Hollywood has never been reflective of what we see at the school pick up line. It's easier for 50 year old men who do the basic work - run, lift, eat well, avoid alcohol, do some yoga, get 8 hours of sleep, and dress reasonably well - to get second and third looks at the grocery store. While that remains true for some women, the luck of the genetic lottery factors much more prominently when it comes to who looks good going into their 50s.

So getting back to the original point, there are a lot of men that will find Gillian Anderson very attractive. But she's not typical for a woman in her 50s. It's much easier for a man to be a George Clooney or Daniel Craig in their 50s, then it is for a woman to be a Selma Hayek or Elizabeth Hurley in their 50s.

It’s not that men inherently “age better”. It’s that society, tv, movies, etc, has portrayed the aging man as still attractive.

Whereas, an aging actress gets replaced by a younger one more readily while the same age man is still a lead character.

Those magazines with “sexiest men” columns always have older men pictured. But the sexiest women ones are all young, bikini bodied women.

This has completely infiltrated the psyche of society.

I am a guy and I agree with you. I think it's not only unfair but ignorant to compare how men and women age. Men have a massive advantage, it's called testosterone. Even with low T men into late 50s early 60s have an advantage when they work out eat healthy etc. Women on the other hand as they loose estrogen their body, voice, skin, etc go through changes some of which are quite profound. But that's because we are comparing them to their younger versions.

This is so delusional it’s sad. People keep mentioning George Clooney and Brad Pitt. But have you seen pictures of them lately? Brad Pitt has had so much work done. It’s insane. He looks like a washed up Vegas act.

Go look at recent photos from this weekend of George Clooney and Amal. Then scroll through the comments. Comment after comment of oh my gosh George Clooney has gotten so old. What a shame he was so good looking he’s gotten so old.

These men have insane genetics that 99.9% of men don’t have, and all the money in the world to do whatever they can to maintain their looks. Granted they are 60, but the average 50 year-old looks like an average 50 year old man and the average 50 year old is not getting women in their 20s or even their early to mid 30s. Most men in their 50s are with… Women in their 50s! Or possibly 40s. Just look at the data. Don’t take my word for it. Or you could step out into the real world and look around. Most people are dating people around their age.

Men do not have some sort of secret anti-aging power: if they did this poor 45 year old tech billionaire wouldn’t be spending billions measuring his nighttime erections. And trying to reverse it to where he’s 18 again: https://fortune.com/well/2023/01/26/bryan-johnson-extreme-anti-aging/

Uh the PP was actually defending older women. He was saying that part of the reasons sometimes men "may" age better could have to do with testosterone.

A 55 years old man can just go the gym have a descent diet and be able to keep a healthy weight. For a similar woman it's different. It's much harder for example for women to keep the weight off just by dieting and going to the gym and it's not her fault, she has her biology making it harder.

I don’t know. I see a lot of men in their 50s with dad bods. It might be easier, but it’s clearly not easy.

I eat really well and exercise regularly so have stayed the same weight in my 40s and feel like my body is even better since I quit drinking 10 years ago and I do think alcohol ages both sexes.

That's because they are lazy. If they tried they can achieve the same results in 1/2 the time and effort a woman of similar age would need. You are an outlier to be honest. Loosing weight and keeping a healthy weight is much harder to achieve for a woman. As women loose estrogen it affects fat distribution but you know that already.

A healthy weight for a 50-something woman is not thin. There’s an evolutionary reason our bodies hold onto weight as we get older. A frail and undernourished older woman is not healthy.

Thin does not mean frail and undernourished, even post menopause.

Activitly dieting post 50 to keep a BMI in the “thin” range generally means being too thin. Obesity is obviously unhealthy but a BMI around 26-27 is likely the healthiest. Anyone who has ever seen a 70 year old woman with an eating disorder knows what I mean. Exercise is far more crucial to health as you age than being “thin.”

Evidence please, you are just spouting nonsense.

knock yourself out: https://www.e-agmr.org/upload/pdf/agmr-22-0012.pdf

These are geriatric people not middle aged.

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Anonymous wrote:All things being equal - regular exercise, good diet, no smoking - it's easier for a good looking 25 year old man to become a good looking 50 year old man as long as he continues with a healthy lifestyle. I think it's much tougher for a good looking 25 year old woman to become a good looking 50 year old woman - even with a continuous healthy lifestyle.

But there are plenty of exceptions. Gillian Anderson was and remains a beautiful woman. But what we see in Hollywood has never been reflective of what we see at the school pick up line. It's easier for 50 year old men who do the basic work - run, lift, eat well, avoid alcohol, do some yoga, get 8 hours of sleep, and dress reasonably well - to get second and third looks at the grocery store. While that remains true for some women, the luck of the genetic lottery factors much more prominently when it comes to who looks good going into their 50s.

So getting back to the original point, there are a lot of men that will find Gillian Anderson very attractive. But she's not typical for a woman in her 50s. It's much easier for a man to be a George Clooney or Daniel Craig in their 50s, then it is for a woman to be a Selma Hayek or Elizabeth Hurley in their 50s.

It’s not that men inherently “age better”. It’s that society, tv, movies, etc, has portrayed the aging man as still attractive.

Whereas, an aging actress gets replaced by a younger one more readily while the same age man is still a lead character.

Those magazines with “sexiest men” columns always have older men pictured. But the sexiest women ones are all young, bikini bodied women.

This has completely infiltrated the psyche of society.

I am a guy and I agree with you. I think it's not only unfair but ignorant to compare how men and women age. Men have a massive advantage, it's called testosterone. Even with low T men into late 50s early 60s have an advantage when they work out eat healthy etc. Women on the other hand as they loose estrogen their body, voice, skin, etc go through changes some of which are quite profound. But that's because we are comparing them to their younger versions.

This is so delusional it’s sad. People keep mentioning George Clooney and Brad Pitt. But have you seen pictures of them lately? Brad Pitt has had so much work done. It’s insane. He looks like a washed up Vegas act.

Go look at recent photos from this weekend of George Clooney and Amal. Then scroll through the comments. Comment after comment of oh my gosh George Clooney has gotten so old. What a shame he was so good looking he’s gotten so old.

These men have insane genetics that 99.9% of men don’t have, and all the money in the world to do whatever they can to maintain their looks. Granted they are 60, but the average 50 year-old looks like an average 50 year old man and the average 50 year old is not getting women in their 20s or even their early to mid 30s. Most men in their 50s are with… Women in their 50s! Or possibly 40s. Just look at the data. Don’t take my word for it. Or you could step out into the real world and look around. Most people are dating people around their age.

Men do not have some sort of secret anti-aging power: if they did this poor 45 year old tech billionaire wouldn’t be spending billions measuring his nighttime erections. And trying to reverse it to where he’s 18 again: https://fortune.com/well/2023/01/26/bryan-johnson-extreme-anti-aging/

Uh the PP was actually defending older women. He was saying that part of the reasons sometimes men "may" age better could have to do with testosterone.

A 55 years old man can just go the gym have a descent diet and be able to keep a healthy weight. For a similar woman it's different. It's much harder for example for women to keep the weight off just by dieting and going to the gym and it's not her fault, she has her biology making it harder.

I don’t know. I see a lot of men in their 50s with dad bods. It might be easier, but it’s clearly not easy.

I eat really well and exercise regularly so have stayed the same weight in my 40s and feel like my body is even better since I quit drinking 10 years ago and I do think alcohol ages both sexes.

That's because they are lazy. If they tried they can achieve the same results in 1/2 the time and effort a woman of similar age would need. You are an outlier to be honest. Loosing weight and keeping a healthy weight is much harder to achieve for a woman. As women loose estrogen it affects fat distribution but you know that already.

A healthy weight for a 50-something woman is not thin. There’s an evolutionary reason our bodies hold onto weight as we get older. A frail and undernourished older woman is not healthy.

Thin does not mean frail and undernourished, even post menopause.

Activitly dieting post 50 to keep a BMI in the “thin” range generally means being too thin. Obesity is obviously unhealthy but a BMI around 26-27 is likely the healthiest. Anyone who has ever seen a 70 year old woman with an eating disorder knows what I mean. Exercise is far more crucial to health as you age than being “thin.”

Evidence please, you are just spouting nonsense.

knock yourself out: https://www.e-agmr.org/upload/pdf/agmr-22-0012.pdf

These are geriatric people not middle aged.

The median age in this study was 77, with a 7-year range. That poster is talking about a different time in life than the people in this thread.

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Anonymous wrote:All things being equal - regular exercise, good diet, no smoking - it's easier for a good looking 25 year old man to become a good looking 50 year old man as long as he continues with a healthy lifestyle. I think it's much tougher for a good looking 25 year old woman to become a good looking 50 year old woman - even with a continuous healthy lifestyle.

But there are plenty of exceptions. Gillian Anderson was and remains a beautiful woman. But what we see in Hollywood has never been reflective of what we see at the school pick up line. It's easier for 50 year old men who do the basic work - run, lift, eat well, avoid alcohol, do some yoga, get 8 hours of sleep, and dress reasonably well - to get second and third looks at the grocery store. While that remains true for some women, the luck of the genetic lottery factors much more prominently when it comes to who looks good going into their 50s.

So getting back to the original point, there are a lot of men that will find Gillian Anderson very attractive. But she's not typical for a woman in her 50s. It's much easier for a man to be a George Clooney or Daniel Craig in their 50s, then it is for a woman to be a Selma Hayek or Elizabeth Hurley in their 50s.

It’s not that men inherently “age better”. It’s that society, tv, movies, etc, has portrayed the aging man as still attractive.

Whereas, an aging actress gets replaced by a younger one more readily while the same age man is still a lead character.

Those magazines with “sexiest men” columns always have older men pictured. But the sexiest women ones are all young, bikini bodied women.

This has completely infiltrated the psyche of society.

I am a guy and I agree with you. I think it's not only unfair but ignorant to compare how men and women age. Men have a massive advantage, it's called testosterone. Even with low T men into late 50s early 60s have an advantage when they work out eat healthy etc. Women on the other hand as they loose estrogen their body, voice, skin, etc go through changes some of which are quite profound. But that's because we are comparing them to their younger versions.

This is so delusional it’s sad. People keep mentioning George Clooney and Brad Pitt. But have you seen pictures of them lately? Brad Pitt has had so much work done. It’s insane. He looks like a washed up Vegas act.

Go look at recent photos from this weekend of George Clooney and Amal. Then scroll through the comments. Comment after comment of oh my gosh George Clooney has gotten so old. What a shame he was so good looking he’s gotten so old.

These men have insane genetics that 99.9% of men don’t have, and all the money in the world to do whatever they can to maintain their looks. Granted they are 60, but the average 50 year-old looks like an average 50 year old man and the average 50 year old is not getting women in their 20s or even their early to mid 30s. Most men in their 50s are with… Women in their 50s! Or possibly 40s. Just look at the data. Don’t take my word for it. Or you could step out into the real world and look around. Most people are dating people around their age.

Men do not have some sort of secret anti-aging power: if they did this poor 45 year old tech billionaire wouldn’t be spending billions measuring his nighttime erections. And trying to reverse it to where he’s 18 again: https://fortune.com/well/2023/01/26/bryan-johnson-extreme-anti-aging/

Uh the PP was actually defending older women. He was saying that part of the reasons sometimes men "may" age better could have to do with testosterone.

A 55 years old man can just go the gym have a descent diet and be able to keep a healthy weight. For a similar woman it's different. It's much harder for example for women to keep the weight off just by dieting and going to the gym and it's not her fault, she has her biology making it harder.

I don’t know. I see a lot of men in their 50s with dad bods. It might be easier, but it’s clearly not easy.

I eat really well and exercise regularly so have stayed the same weight in my 40s and feel like my body is even better since I quit drinking 10 years ago and I do think alcohol ages both sexes.

That's because they are lazy. If they tried they can achieve the same results in 1/2 the time and effort a woman of similar age would need. You are an outlier to be honest. Loosing weight and keeping a healthy weight is much harder to achieve for a woman. As women loose estrogen it affects fat distribution but you know that already.

A healthy weight for a 50-something woman is not thin. There’s an evolutionary reason our bodies hold onto weight as we get older. A frail and undernourished older woman is not healthy.

Thin does not mean frail and undernourished, even post menopause.

Activitly dieting post 50 to keep a BMI in the “thin” range generally means being too thin. Obesity is obviously unhealthy but a BMI around 26-27 is likely the healthiest. Anyone who has ever seen a 70 year old woman with an eating disorder knows what I mean. Exercise is far more crucial to health as you age than being “thin.”

Evidence please, you are just spouting nonsense.

knock yourself out: https://www.e-agmr.org/upload/pdf/agmr-22-0012.pdf

These are geriatric people not middle aged.

here’s a more specific age breakout. for women in their 50s it’s up to 27 bmi: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4681110/

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But there are plenty of exceptions. Gillian Anderson was and remains a beautiful woman. But what we see in Hollywood has never been reflective of what we see at the school pick up line. It's easier for 50 year old men who do the basic work - run, lift, eat well, avoid alcohol, do some yoga, get 8 hours of sleep, and dress reasonably well - to get second and third looks at the grocery store. While that remains true for some women, the luck of the genetic lottery factors much more prominently when it comes to who looks good going into their 50s.

So getting back to the original point, there are a lot of men that will find Gillian Anderson very attractive. But she's not typical for a woman in her 50s. It's much easier for a man to be a George Clooney or Daniel Craig in their 50s, then it is for a woman to be a Selma Hayek or Elizabeth Hurley in their 50s.

It’s not that men inherently “age better”. It’s that society, tv, movies, etc, has portrayed the aging man as still attractive.

Whereas, an aging actress gets replaced by a younger one more readily while the same age man is still a lead character.

Those magazines with “sexiest men” columns always have older men pictured. But the sexiest women ones are all young, bikini bodied women.

This has completely infiltrated the psyche of society.

I am a guy and I agree with you. I think it's not only unfair but ignorant to compare how men and women age. Men have a massive advantage, it's called testosterone. Even with low T men into late 50s early 60s have an advantage when they work out eat healthy etc. Women on the other hand as they loose estrogen their body, voice, skin, etc go through changes some of which are quite profound. But that's because we are comparing them to their younger versions.

This is so delusional it’s sad. People keep mentioning George Clooney and Brad Pitt. But have you seen pictures of them lately? Brad Pitt has had so much work done. It’s insane. He looks like a washed up Vegas act.

Go look at recent photos from this weekend of George Clooney and Amal. Then scroll through the comments. Comment after comment of oh my gosh George Clooney has gotten so old. What a shame he was so good looking he’s gotten so old.

These men have insane genetics that 99.9% of men don’t have, and all the money in the world to do whatever they can to maintain their looks. Granted they are 60, but the average 50 year-old looks like an average 50 year old man and the average 50 year old is not getting women in their 20s or even their early to mid 30s. Most men in their 50s are with… Women in their 50s! Or possibly 40s. Just look at the data. Don’t take my word for it. Or you could step out into the real world and look around. Most people are dating people around their age.

Men do not have some sort of secret anti-aging power: if they did this poor 45 year old tech billionaire wouldn’t be spending billions measuring his nighttime erections. And trying to reverse it to where he’s 18 again: https://fortune.com/well/2023/01/26/bryan-johnson-extreme-anti-aging/

Uh the PP was actually defending older women. He was saying that part of the reasons sometimes men "may" age better could have to do with testosterone.

A 55 years old man can just go the gym have a descent diet and be able to keep a healthy weight. For a similar woman it's different. It's much harder for example for women to keep the weight off just by dieting and going to the gym and it's not her fault, she has her biology making it harder.

I don’t know. I see a lot of men in their 50s with dad bods. It might be easier, but it’s clearly not easy.

I eat really well and exercise regularly so have stayed the same weight in my 40s and feel like my body is even better since I quit drinking 10 years ago and I do think alcohol ages both sexes.

That's because they are lazy. If they tried they can achieve the same results in 1/2 the time and effort a woman of similar age would need. You are an outlier to be honest. Loosing weight and keeping a healthy weight is much harder to achieve for a woman. As women loose estrogen it affects fat distribution but you know that already.

A healthy weight for a 50-something woman is not thin. There’s an evolutionary reason our bodies hold onto weight as we get older. A frail and undernourished older woman is not healthy.

Thin does not mean frail and undernourished, even post menopause.

Activitly dieting post 50 to keep a BMI in the “thin” range generally means being too thin. Obesity is obviously unhealthy but a BMI around 26-27 is likely the healthiest. Anyone who has ever seen a 70 year old woman with an eating disorder knows what I mean. Exercise is far more crucial to health as you age than being “thin.”

Evidence please, you are just spouting nonsense.

knock yourself out: https://www.e-agmr.org/upload/pdf/agmr-22-0012.pdf

These are geriatric people not middle aged.

here’s a more specific age breakout. for women in their 50s it’s up to 27 bmi: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4681110/

More on the healthiest BMI being 26-27
https://www.medpagetoday.com/primarycare/obesity/57821