Men in your 50s, do you find women in their 50s attractive?

[Anonymous]

My male friend in his mid 30s finds 50 year olds attractive. He also did in his late 20s. He's dated at least one 50 year old woman, though he dates women in their 20s and all ages in between too.

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Anonymous wrote:My male friend in his mid 30s finds 50 year olds attractive. He also did in his late 20s. He's dated at least one 50 year old woman, though he dates women in their 20s and all ages in between too.

So he will do anything that has a pulse. Nice.

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Anonymous wrote:All things being equal - regular exercise, good diet, no smoking - it's easier for a good looking 25 year old man to become a good looking 50 year old man as long as he continues with a healthy lifestyle. I think it's much tougher for a good looking 25 year old woman to become a good looking 50 year old woman - even with a continuous healthy lifestyle.

But there are plenty of exceptions. Gillian Anderson was and remains a beautiful woman. But what we see in Hollywood has never been reflective of what we see at the school pick up line. It's easier for 50 year old men who do the basic work - run, lift, eat well, avoid alcohol, do some yoga, get 8 hours of sleep, and dress reasonably well - to get second and third looks at the grocery store. While that remains true for some women, the luck of the genetic lottery factors much more prominently when it comes to who looks good going into their 50s.

So getting back to the original point, there are a lot of men that will find Gillian Anderson very attractive. But she's not typical for a woman in her 50s. It's much easier for a man to be a George Clooney or Daniel Craig in their 50s, then it is for a woman to be a Selma Hayek or Elizabeth Hurley in their 50s.

It’s not that men inherently “age better”. It’s that society, tv, movies, etc, has portrayed the aging man as still attractive.

Whereas, an aging actress gets replaced by a younger one more readily while the same age man is still a lead character.

Those magazines with “sexiest men” columns always have older men pictured. But the sexiest women ones are all young, bikini bodied women.

This has completely infiltrated the psyche of society.

I am a guy and I agree with you. I think it's not only unfair but ignorant to compare how men and women age. Men have a massive advantage, it's called testosterone. Even with low T men into late 50s early 60s have an advantage when they work out eat healthy etc. Women on the other hand as they loose estrogen their body, voice, skin, etc go through changes some of which are quite profound. But that's because we are comparing them to their younger versions.

This is so delusional it’s sad. People keep mentioning George Clooney and Brad Pitt. But have you seen pictures of them lately? Brad Pitt has had so much work done. It’s insane. He looks like a washed up Vegas act.

Go look at recent photos from this weekend of George Clooney and Amal. Then scroll through the comments. Comment after comment of oh my gosh George Clooney has gotten so old. What a shame he was so good looking he’s gotten so old.

These men have insane genetics that 99.9% of men don’t have, and all the money in the world to do whatever they can to maintain their looks. Granted they are 60, but the average 50 year-old looks like an average 50 year old man and the average 50 year old is not getting women in their 20s or even their early to mid 30s. Most men in their 50s are with… Women in their 50s! Or possibly 40s. Just look at the data. Don’t take my word for it. Or you could step out into the real world and look around. Most people are dating people around their age.

Men do not have some sort of secret anti-aging power: if they did this poor 45 year old tech billionaire wouldn’t be spending billions measuring his nighttime erections. And trying to reverse it to where he’s 18 again: https://fortune.com/well/2023/01/26/bryan-johnson-extreme-anti-aging/

Uh the PP was actually defending older women. He was saying that part of the reasons sometimes men "may" age better could have to do with testosterone.

A 55 years old man can just go the gym have a descent diet and be able to keep a healthy weight. For a similar woman it's different. It's much harder for example for women to keep the weight off just by dieting and going to the gym and it's not her fault, she has her biology making it harder.

I don’t know. I see a lot of men in their 50s with dad bods. It might be easier, but it’s clearly not easy.

I eat really well and exercise regularly so have stayed the same weight in my 40s and feel like my body is even better since I quit drinking 10 years ago and I do think alcohol ages both sexes.

That's because they are lazy. If they tried they can achieve the same results in 1/2 the time and effort a woman of similar age would need. You are an outlier to be honest. Loosing weight and keeping a healthy weight is much harder to achieve for a woman. As women loose estrogen it affects fat distribution but you know that already.

A healthy weight for a 50-something woman is not thin. There’s an evolutionary reason our bodies hold onto weight as we get older. A frail and undernourished older woman is not healthy.

Thin does not mean frail and undernourished, even post menopause.

Activitly dieting post 50 to keep a BMI in the “thin” range generally means being too thin. Obesity is obviously unhealthy but a BMI around 26-27 is likely the healthiest. Anyone who has ever seen a 70 year old woman with an eating disorder knows what I mean. Exercise is far more crucial to health as you age than being “thin.”

Evidence please, you are just spouting nonsense.

LOL you seriously think if you don’t have some extra weight to lose in your 70s that cancer won’t take you down quick? Or even a serious virus? You need “sources” because you have no common sense.

DP. That's your excuse for not losing weight? In case you get cancer? Wow.

What’s totally hilarious is you assume because I’m arguing with you I must need to lose weight. You know literally nothing about me.

What's totally hilarious is you assume that anyone with a smaller BMI than your must be dieting

[Anonymous]

None of these opinions negate women's -- or men's --actual experiences.

Are there some men in their 50s and 60s who have good relationships (or just hookups) with much younger women? Sure. Sometimes it lasts, too. But overall, your likelihood of finding a much younger (and beautiful, and not personality-disordered) mate as a man will decrease as you get significantly older, especially unless you are quite wealthy and willing to spend it.

Can you do it? Sure. Are you likely to be successful at it? Less and less likely as time goes on.

Same for women. Can women in their 50s (or even 60s) find a wonderful relationship with a man, whether younger than they are or not? Sure. Sometimes it lasts, too. But overall, your likelihood of finding an excellent (or just FWB) mate as a woman will decrease as you get significantly older, especially unless you are thin, charming, and conventionally pretty.

Individual anecdotes are what they are -- anecdotes. They speak to possibility, overall likelihoods. People with good experiences as women are more likely to post about their specific in this thread, because they are answering a claim about impossibility.

The thread, though, is geared to find men's answers. Some men are going to post positively, but there is going to be a large incentive for bitter, angry men to post negatively, trying to convince women of the impossibility. Think about it -- why would they care? If there are a bunch of aging women with literally no prospects, but they themselves as virile men are bedding and endless supply of cupcakes -- why would they care if those older women know it or not? If they are truly irrelevant, why are they even thinking about them?

Bitter, angry. Maybe not bedding a bunch of younger women and so holding that grudge against all women, or maybe they are dating younger and either unhappy or still enraged at the partner who left them? Or women who still turn them down, despite any maxims attributed to Ben Franklin about how how older women are supposed to be grateful? (That one does sting, if you think someone is a sure thing because she should be grateful for your attention, but she laughs in your face or couldn't care less.)

All of this boils down to posturing for internet points. Of course you can be attractive as you age, man or woman. We've all seen examples. It's just much less common and so much more difficult to achieve.

If you care about this, work on yourself. That's where any payoff lies, not in trying to convince anyone else with your sour grapes.

[Anonymous]

^^Should read:

"Individual anecdotes are what they are -- anecdotes. They speak to possibility, NOT overall likelihoods. People with good experiences as women are more likely to post about their specific EXPERIENCES in this thread, because they are answering a claim about impossibility WITH COUNTER-EXAMPLES."

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sorry ladies + 1000

48 YO swm typically attracted to 30-40 yo woman

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Anonymous wrote:All things being equal - regular exercise, good diet, no smoking - it's easier for a good looking 25 year old man to become a good looking 50 year old man as long as he continues with a healthy lifestyle. I think it's much tougher for a good looking 25 year old woman to become a good looking 50 year old woman - even with a continuous healthy lifestyle.

But there are plenty of exceptions. Gillian Anderson was and remains a beautiful woman. But what we see in Hollywood has never been reflective of what we see at the school pick up line. It's easier for 50 year old men who do the basic work - run, lift, eat well, avoid alcohol, do some yoga, get 8 hours of sleep, and dress reasonably well - to get second and third looks at the grocery store. While that remains true for some women, the luck of the genetic lottery factors much more prominently when it comes to who looks good going into their 50s.

So getting back to the original point, there are a lot of men that will find Gillian Anderson very attractive. But she's not typical for a woman in her 50s. It's much easier for a man to be a George Clooney or Daniel Craig in their 50s, then it is for a woman to be a Selma Hayek or Elizabeth Hurley in their 50s.

It’s not that men inherently “age better”. It’s that society, tv, movies, etc, has portrayed the aging man as still attractive.

Whereas, an aging actress gets replaced by a younger one more readily while the same age man is still a lead character.

Those magazines with “sexiest men” columns always have older men pictured. But the sexiest women ones are all young, bikini bodied women.

This has completely infiltrated the psyche of society.

I am a guy and I agree with you. I think it's not only unfair but ignorant to compare how men and women age. Men have a massive advantage, it's called testosterone. Even with low T men into late 50s early 60s have an advantage when they work out eat healthy etc. Women on the other hand as they loose estrogen their body, voice, skin, etc go through changes some of which are quite profound. But that's because we are comparing them to their younger versions.

This is so delusional it’s sad. People keep mentioning George Clooney and Brad Pitt. But have you seen pictures of them lately? Brad Pitt has had so much work done. It’s insane. He looks like a washed up Vegas act.

Go look at recent photos from this weekend of George Clooney and Amal. Then scroll through the comments. Comment after comment of oh my gosh George Clooney has gotten so old. What a shame he was so good looking he’s gotten so old.

These men have insane genetics that 99.9% of men don’t have, and all the money in the world to do whatever they can to maintain their looks. Granted they are 60, but the average 50 year-old looks like an average 50 year old man and the average 50 year old is not getting women in their 20s or even their early to mid 30s. Most men in their 50s are with… Women in their 50s! Or possibly 40s. Just look at the data. Don’t take my word for it. Or you could step out into the real world and look around. Most people are dating people around their age.

Men do not have some sort of secret anti-aging power: if they did this poor 45 year old tech billionaire wouldn’t be spending billions measuring his nighttime erections. And trying to reverse it to where he’s 18 again: https://fortune.com/well/2023/01/26/bryan-johnson-extreme-anti-aging/

Uh the PP was actually defending older women. He was saying that part of the reasons sometimes men "may" age better could have to do with testosterone.

A 55 years old man can just go the gym have a descent diet and be able to keep a healthy weight. For a similar woman it's different. It's much harder for example for women to keep the weight off just by dieting and going to the gym and it's not her fault, she has her biology making it harder.

I don’t know. I see a lot of men in their 50s with dad bods. It might be easier, but it’s clearly not easy.

I eat really well and exercise regularly so have stayed the same weight in my 40s and feel like my body is even better since I quit drinking 10 years ago and I do think alcohol ages both sexes.

That's because they are lazy. If they tried they can achieve the same results in 1/2 the time and effort a woman of similar age would need. You are an outlier to be honest. Loosing weight and keeping a healthy weight is much harder to achieve for a woman. As women loose estrogen it affects fat distribution but you know that already.

A healthy weight for a 50-something woman is not thin. There’s an evolutionary reason our bodies hold onto weight as we get older. A frail and undernourished older woman is not healthy.

Thin does not mean frail and undernourished, even post menopause.

Activitly dieting post 50 to keep a BMI in the “thin” range generally means being too thin. Obesity is obviously unhealthy but a BMI around 26-27 is likely the healthiest. Anyone who has ever seen a 70 year old woman with an eating disorder knows what I mean. Exercise is far more crucial to health as you age than being “thin.”

Evidence please, you are just spouting nonsense.

LOL you seriously think if you don’t have some extra weight to lose in your 70s that cancer won’t take you down quick? Or even a serious virus? You need “sources” because you have no common sense.

DP. That's your excuse for not losing weight? In case you get cancer? Wow.

What’s totally hilarious is you assume because I’m arguing with you I must need to lose weight. You know literally nothing about me.

What's totally hilarious is you assume that anyone with a smaller BMI than your must be dieting

Unfortunately there are older women with eating disorders. I know of 3. You cannot be healthy header into middle age if you don’t eat.

[Anonymous]

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sorry ladies + 1000

48 YO swm typically attracted to 30-40 yo woman

good luck dating a woman who is 30. I dated older men in my 20s and 30s but even I drew a line at more than 10 yrs older. The only man close to 50 I dated was literally a media mogul who was also extremely handsome and in good shape. If that’s you, congrats, you can date 30 yr olds.

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sorry ladies + 1000

48 YO swm typically attracted to 30-40 yo woman

DP. True for you, and yet not true for everyone. You speak for you, not all men. I believe you, absolutely! That is how you roll.

Your anecdote does not negate my experience, though. I'm in my early 50s, divorced, dating a man a year younger (who is absolutely lovely in all ways), and perfectly happy. Could he date younger? Sure. He has previously, and he receives interest. But we are into each other, and so it goes.

My N of 1 does not negate your preferences, though. And that's fine. I'm not ever going to tell you that you HAVE to be attracted to women our age or older -- why are you telling me I CANNOT experience what I am actually in real life experiencing?

[Anonymous]

I wonder why some men are so insistent to convince women of something they, presumably (if the men were right) would be unable to ignore?

If it's true across the board, why do you have to convince women you don't even think about of that truth? Shouldn't it be obvious?

[Anonymous]

Depends. The older some of you get the more you look like men.

[Anonymous]

I’m 58 and dating a 54 year old woman who is in amazing shape. She’s not a fitness fanatic by any means but somehow she has maintained a figure of someone much younger without surgery. She doesn’t smoke, drinks very little and plays a lot of sports like tennis and that really helps. She’s 5’8” so she cuts quite a figure when she glams up.

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Anonymous wrote:Depends. The older some of you get the more you look like men.

And men are looking more and more like women.

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Anonymous wrote:Depends. The older some of you get the more you look like men.

And men are looking more and more like women.

+1 those moobs

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Anonymous wrote:Depends. The older some of you get the more you look like men.

And men are looking more and more like women.

+1 those moobs

It's not even older men.
Two thirds of guys out there have birthing hips and girl voices.

Apparently Zoomer gals like it, but I'm too old for men who look and sound like women.