Harris beating Trump in Iowa

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Anonymous wrote:Iowa Poll: Democrats are preferred over Republicans in 2 of 4 congressional districts

Statewide, voters virtually tie in preference for a Democrat or a Republican for the U.S. House of Representatives, 45% to 44%.

By a 16-point margin, likely Iowa voters prefer a Democrat over a Republican in the 1st District, where Democrat Christina Bohannan and Republican U.S. Rep. Mariannette Miller-Meeks are competing.

By a 7-point advantage, likely voters prefer a Democrat over a Republican in the 3rd District, where Democrat Lanon Baccam is challenging Republican U.S. Rep. Zach Nunn.

https://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/news/politics/iowa-poll/2024/11/03/iowa-poll-democrats-preferred-over-republicans-congress-nunn-baccam-miller-meeks-bohannan-hinson/75988058007/


I did a lot of organizing and canvassing in Iowa in 2020, and we just barely eked out a Democratic victory in only one of the four congressional districts.

If the above is true, this is an enormous shift in 4 years. Huge.
More likely that is evidence this is a bad poll. The newspaper is not releasing the crosstabs.
Incumbents without scandal don't lose by these big margins. In 2022, the biggest was 8, by someone who was hurt by redistricting.


But this incumbent is a rubber stamp for the dysfunctional do-nothing GOP House, in a district that is only R+3, is mostly urban (to the extent that Davenport and Iowa City are urban), and may prefer a representative who believes that the government should function competently. This seat had flipped back and forth in four consecutive elections before 2022 when it was redrawn.
Flipping is plausible. D+16 is not.


You might think so, but there could be a big shift among women in these cities. There appears to be a snowball effect among older women and college women, as there was in other cities and suburbs in 2018 and 2020. The release of the poll may actually contribute to it.


No one talks about secondary persuasion any more but it is a major part of campaign strategy and it is what is happening with the snowball effect for Harris among urban and suburban women.

People who are active in their communities directly and indirectly influence their family, friends, coworkers, social circle, and even some people they don’t know. When people see others in their social sphere whose opinions they respect are supporting a candidate or cause, they are more receptive to that campaign.

I organized Democratic campaign volunteer efforts around secondary persuasion, focusing on local business and community leaders who would influence others within their spheres. Blue Dog Democrats survived in conservative districts by building nonpartisan networks of supporters among independent and Republican leaning business and community leaders. People are more receptive to the opinions of people they know than to campaign ads or appeals from strangers.

This is how a state or Congressional district can swing by 20% in an election, not one voter at a time, but by triggering social group dynamics. That happened for Trump in 2016 and it is happening against Trump and for Harris among women in 2024. There is a snowballing effect in play that is flipping women in big numbers.
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Anonymous wrote:Iowa Poll: Democrats are preferred over Republicans in 2 of 4 congressional districts

Statewide, voters virtually tie in preference for a Democrat or a Republican for the U.S. House of Representatives, 45% to 44%.

By a 16-point margin, likely Iowa voters prefer a Democrat over a Republican in the 1st District, where Democrat Christina Bohannan and Republican U.S. Rep. Mariannette Miller-Meeks are competing.

By a 7-point advantage, likely voters prefer a Democrat over a Republican in the 3rd District, where Democrat Lanon Baccam is challenging Republican U.S. Rep. Zach Nunn.

https://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/news/politics/iowa-poll/2024/11/03/iowa-poll-democrats-preferred-over-republicans-congress-nunn-baccam-miller-meeks-bohannan-hinson/75988058007/


I did a lot of organizing and canvassing in Iowa in 2020, and we just barely eked out a Democratic victory in only one of the four congressional districts.

If the above is true, this is an enormous shift in 4 years. Huge.
More likely that is evidence this is a bad poll. The newspaper is not releasing the crosstabs.
Incumbents without scandal don't lose by these big margins. In 2022, the biggest was 8, by someone who was hurt by redistricting.


But this incumbent is a rubber stamp for the dysfunctional do-nothing GOP House, in a district that is only R+3, is mostly urban (to the extent that Davenport and Iowa City are urban), and may prefer a representative who believes that the government should function competently. This seat had flipped back and forth in four consecutive elections before 2022 when it was redrawn.
Flipping is plausible. D+16 is not.


You might think so, but there could be a big shift among women in these cities. There appears to be a snowball effect among older women and college women, as there was in other cities and suburbs in 2018 and 2020. The release of the poll may actually contribute to it.


No one talks about secondary persuasion any more but it is a major part of campaign strategy and it is what is happening with the snowball effect for Harris among urban and suburban women.

People who are active in their communities directly and indirectly influence their family, friends, coworkers, social circle, and even some people they don’t know. When people see others in their social sphere whose opinions they respect are supporting a candidate or cause, they are more receptive to that campaign.

I organized Democratic campaign volunteer efforts around secondary persuasion, focusing on local business and community leaders who would influence others within their spheres. Blue Dog Democrats survived in conservative districts by building nonpartisan networks of supporters among independent and Republican leaning business and community leaders. People are more receptive to the opinions of people they know than to campaign ads or appeals from strangers.

This is how a state or Congressional district can swing by 20% in an election, not one voter at a time, but by triggering social group dynamics. That happened for Trump in 2016 and it is happening against Trump and for Harris among women in 2024. There is a snowballing effect in play that is flipping women in big numbers.

I hope you’re right.
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Anonymous wrote:Emerson poll has Trump +10 in Iowa. But feel free to cling to whatever poll makes you happier.


Yes but Selzer is THE Iowa pollster. Emerson polls nationally and is parachuting in.

I'm really struggling with this because the gulf is so wide, but I trust Selzer on Iowa over anyone else.

Her result is still within a standard margin of error, making them effectively tied. But if true, that is a huge swing. Iowa should not be in play if Trump is winning.

Also I'm still reviewing details of the poll but the most interesting result: it has women 65+ voting Harris 2-1. That's a huge deal because that's a very reliable voting bloc-- older people vote at high rates and older women vote more reliably than men.


Yes. Older women are super super pissed. They don’t want people messing around with reproductive rights and they remember pre-roe and many have a lot of sad stories. Not so much back alley abortions, but misguided marriages and lost career opportunities.

Plus they don’t want the gop cratering social security and Medicare. The media has not given this much attention, but it has been a consistent plot line from the gop to get rid of those entitlements and older women are sensitive about the issue.


Some other analysis I've seen mentions that while young voters may have no memory of Trump's "grab 'em by the pussy," older women do remember. They are also more likely to accurately remember that Trump's economy was inherited from Obama and how badly Trump screwed up Covid response, stuff that many voters appear to have randomly forgotten or never knew. But it all undercuts Trump's argument to voters that they were "better off" when he was president.


a number of tik takers are making hay, using Trump's words as a soundtrack while shooting the changes on their faces when hearing the words.


Tik Tok is where the “bone smashing” trend started. But hey , it’s reaching a lot of young voters!

And? This isn’t a “bone smashing” trend, it’s newly eligible voters finding out that Trump bragged about sexually assaulting women.
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Anonymous wrote:Iowa Poll: Democrats are preferred over Republicans in 2 of 4 congressional districts

Statewide, voters virtually tie in preference for a Democrat or a Republican for the U.S. House of Representatives, 45% to 44%.

By a 16-point margin, likely Iowa voters prefer a Democrat over a Republican in the 1st District, where Democrat Christina Bohannan and Republican U.S. Rep. Mariannette Miller-Meeks are competing.

By a 7-point advantage, likely voters prefer a Democrat over a Republican in the 3rd District, where Democrat Lanon Baccam is challenging Republican U.S. Rep. Zach Nunn.

https://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/news/politics/iowa-poll/2024/11/03/iowa-poll-democrats-preferred-over-republicans-congress-nunn-baccam-miller-meeks-bohannan-hinson/75988058007/


I did a lot of organizing and canvassing in Iowa in 2020, and we just barely eked out a Democratic victory in only one of the four congressional districts.

If the above is true, this is an enormous shift in 4 years. Huge.
More likely that is evidence this is a bad poll. The newspaper is not releasing the crosstabs.
Incumbents without scandal don't lose by these big margins. In 2022, the biggest was 8, by someone who was hurt by redistricting.


But this incumbent is a rubber stamp for the dysfunctional do-nothing GOP House, in a district that is only R+3, is mostly urban (to the extent that Davenport and Iowa City are urban), and may prefer a representative who believes that the government should function competently. This seat had flipped back and forth in four consecutive elections before 2022 when it was redrawn.
Flipping is plausible. D+16 is not.


You might think so, but there could be a big shift among women in these cities. There appears to be a snowball effect among older women and college women, as there was in other cities and suburbs in 2018 and 2020. The release of the poll may actually contribute to it.


No one talks about secondary persuasion any more but it is a major part of campaign strategy and it is what is happening with the snowball effect for Harris among urban and suburban women.

People who are active in their communities directly and indirectly influence their family, friends, coworkers, social circle, and even some people they don’t know. When people see others in their social sphere whose opinions they respect are supporting a candidate or cause, they are more receptive to that campaign.

I organized Democratic campaign volunteer efforts around secondary persuasion, focusing on local business and community leaders who would influence others within their spheres. Blue Dog Democrats survived in conservative districts by building nonpartisan networks of supporters among independent and Republican leaning business and community leaders. People are more receptive to the opinions of people they know than to campaign ads or appeals from strangers.

This is how a state or Congressional district can swing by 20% in an election, not one voter at a time, but by triggering social group dynamics. That happened for Trump in 2016 and it is happening against Trump and for Harris among women in 2024. There is a snowballing effect in play that is flipping women in big numbers.


Is this an educated guess, working backward, on your part or something you have been hearing about directly? (Looking for something to keep me positive and hopeful today!!)
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Harris is winning the blue wall AT LEAST
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People talk around the kitchen table about manicure trends, whether Larla's pot roast is going to be dry again, and if the dress is blue/black or white/gold.

They also talk about death, divorce, fears, and hope for their children's futures at the same table. It's not the place, it's the content of the conversation.
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Anonymous wrote:Iowa Poll: Democrats are preferred over Republicans in 2 of 4 congressional districts

Statewide, voters virtually tie in preference for a Democrat or a Republican for the U.S. House of Representatives, 45% to 44%.

By a 16-point margin, likely Iowa voters prefer a Democrat over a Republican in the 1st District, where Democrat Christina Bohannan and Republican U.S. Rep. Mariannette Miller-Meeks are competing.

By a 7-point advantage, likely voters prefer a Democrat over a Republican in the 3rd District, where Democrat Lanon Baccam is challenging Republican U.S. Rep. Zach Nunn.

https://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/news/politics/iowa-poll/2024/11/03/iowa-poll-democrats-preferred-over-republicans-congress-nunn-baccam-miller-meeks-bohannan-hinson/75988058007/


I did a lot of organizing and canvassing in Iowa in 2020, and we just barely eked out a Democratic victory in only one of the four congressional districts.

If the above is true, this is an enormous shift in 4 years. Huge.
More likely that is evidence this is a bad poll. The newspaper is not releasing the crosstabs.
Incumbents without scandal don't lose by these big margins. In 2022, the biggest was 8, by someone who was hurt by redistricting.


But this incumbent is a rubber stamp for the dysfunctional do-nothing GOP House, in a district that is only R+3, is mostly urban (to the extent that Davenport and Iowa City are urban), and may prefer a representative who believes that the government should function competently. This seat had flipped back and forth in four consecutive elections before 2022 when it was redrawn.
Flipping is plausible. D+16 is not.


You might think so, but there could be a big shift among women in these cities. There appears to be a snowball effect among older women and college women, as there was in other cities and suburbs in 2018 and 2020. The release of the poll may actually contribute to it.


No one talks about secondary persuasion any more but it is a major part of campaign strategy and it is what is happening with the snowball effect for Harris among urban and suburban women.

People who are active in their communities directly and indirectly influence their family, friends, coworkers, social circle, and even some people they don’t know. When people see others in their social sphere whose opinions they respect are supporting a candidate or cause, they are more receptive to that campaign.

I organized Democratic campaign volunteer efforts around secondary persuasion, focusing on local business and community leaders who would influence others within their spheres. Blue Dog Democrats survived in conservative districts by building nonpartisan networks of supporters among independent and Republican leaning business and community leaders. People are more receptive to the opinions of people they know than to campaign ads or appeals from strangers.

This is how a state or Congressional district can swing by 20% in an election, not one voter at a time, but by triggering social group dynamics. That happened for Trump in 2016 and it is happening against Trump and for Harris among women in 2024. There is a snowballing effect in play that is flipping women in big numbers.


Is this an educated guess, working backward, on your part or something you have been hearing about directly? (Looking for something to keep me positive and hopeful today!!)


It’s my explanation for the Iowa and Kansas polls showing a significant shift in older women voting for Harris. Trump lovers are in denial and have dismissed the polls. Urban and suburban women have been the major persuasion target for the Harris campaign and for Democratic Congressional candidates. I’m saying there is a group dynamic in these communities and there is a tipping point at which there is a snowball effect of women for Harris, and these polls show that happening in Iowa and Kansas and probably elsewhere.
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If the Selzer Iowa poll is accurate, Harris will win the national popular vote by at least 9 million votes, about 52% to 46%.
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Anonymous wrote:If the Selzer Iowa poll is accurate, Harris will win the national popular vote by at least 9 million votes, about 52% to 46%.


Biden won by over 7 million in the PV and won the EC by about 35,000 between the 3 narrowest states.
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Anonymous wrote:If the Selzer Iowa poll is accurate, Harris will win the national popular vote by at least 9 million votes, about 52% to 46%.


This is where I am, and if it is accurate, Harris is likely to win 6 of the 7 swing states and possibly one or two more.
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What is with their obsession of genitals? It really is a marker of low intelligence.
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Kamala should have picked Shapiro. She ain't winning anything w/o PA.
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Anonymous wrote:Kamala should have picked Shapiro. She ain't winning anything w/o PA.


Republicans wanted this so badly. That’s how you know he was a bad pick.
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Anonymous wrote:Kamala should have picked Shapiro. She ain't winning anything w/o PA.


I’m pretty confident she’ll win PA decisively.

The MAGA panic is increasing even over the last few days! This is wonderful!!
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