Shooting at Brandywine & Connecticut Ave NW This Afternoon

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Anonymous wrote:This is what Matt meant by making “Ward 3 More Welcoming.” How’s it working out?

Serious danger to community residents from violence like this is “out of site out of mind” to people like Frumin. He truly does not care at all.

I don't know how many times it needs to be stressed here. Most voucher recipients are not habitual violent criminals or offenders, there is a small minority. It should also be noted crime is up in white states such as Colorado, Washington, Vermont, Oregon. This is a direct result of the prolonged COVID closures, low wages, inflation and the pitiful way this country deals with mental illness.

Crime is up in Ward 3 more than other parts of DC. Ward 3 has experienced a 45 percent in crime year-over-year. That compares with a 27 percent increase for DC at large. While voucher holders may not directly be the source, there is a strong argument that they are indirectly contributing. Case in point is that the shooter in this month's "incident" had entry access to the Saratoga even though he wasn't a resident. One solution could be capping the number of vouchers per building to avoid destabilizing a building or a neighborhood. Another solution would be to use some of this available housing stock to provide vouchers for teachers, law enforcement and other first responders/essential workers who are priced out of the neighborhood. Voucher recipients should also be required to access services as needed.

If this is not curbed, people will leave the neighborhood and it will create a spiraling effect. There are terrible market distortions and perverse incentives in the voucher program that need to be corrected. But more importantly, more lives could be unnecessarily lost.

Here's the data for ward 3 crime: https://crimecards.dc.gov/all:crimes/all:weapons/1:year%20to%20date/in:Ward:3
Here's the data for dc-wide crime:https://crimecards.dc.gov/

Thank you for sharing the link to the data. Citywide crime is up 28% and violent crime is up 37%. In Wards 1 and 6, violent crime is up more than 60% - that's homicide, sex abuse, assault with a dangerous weapon and robbery. There is not only more crime today than last year (and also pre-pandemic), a greater share of that crime is violent crime. I know a lot of focus is on the Ward 3 councilmember (as it should be) but where do the at-large members and other ward councilmembers stand?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I don't know how many times it needs to be stressed here. Most voucher recipients are not habitual violent criminals or offenders, there is a small minority.

We have plenty of evidence at this point that a lot of criminality is brought in with the voucher program. Thankfully The Washington Post actually sent reporters out to these situations to dig into what was happening, or else we'd still have people claiming that this never happened.

Whether it's 15% of the voucher holders causing that or 70%, it doesn't change the fact that the program is making these neighborhoods visibly more dangerous.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I don't know how many times it needs to be stressed here. Most voucher recipients are not habitual violent criminals or offenders, there is a small minority.

We have plenty of evidence at this point that a lot of criminality is brought in with the voucher program. Thankfully The Washington Post actually sent reporters out to these situations to dig into what was happening, or else we'd still have people claiming that this never happened.

Whether it's 15% of the voucher holders causing that or 70%, it doesn't change the fact that the program is making these neighborhoods visibly more dangerous.

The WashPo like most news media is drumming up unnecessary. hysteria. They should have been investigating why DC was the very last to reopen schools and local gov't agency departments for services.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is what Matt meant by making “Ward 3 More Welcoming.” How’s it working out?

Serious danger to community residents from violence like this is “out of site out of mind” to people like Frumin. He truly does not care at all.

I don't know how many times it needs to be stressed here. Most voucher recipients are not habitual violent criminals or offenders, there is a small minority. It should also be noted crime is up in white states such as Colorado, Washington, Vermont, Oregon. This is a direct result of the prolonged COVID closures, low wages, inflation and the pitiful way this country deals with mental illness.

The MPD crime cards for Forest Hills for the past few years speak for themselves and both Frumin and MPD acknowledged that crime has increased while the program rolled out. In fact it's the greatest % increase of any PSA in the city (obv not highest number). It may not always be the voucher recipient but may be an associate, such as The Saratoga shooting or the woman being tied up, strangled and thrown out a window of The Connecticut House. Both Frumin and MPD spoke about that too as has Cheh in the past.

Data is factual, take your ranting to a different thread, no one here buys it. Really feels like Harriet's Dreams folks have invaded this thread.

Also, it's racist to assume that no voucher recipients are white, not true in DC. GTFO with your racist nonsense.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is what Matt meant by making “Ward 3 More Welcoming.” How’s it working out?

Serious danger to community residents from violence like this is “out of site out of mind” to people like Frumin. He truly does not care at all.

I don't know how many times it needs to be stressed here. Most voucher recipients are not habitual violent criminals or offenders, there is a small minority. It should also be noted crime is up in white states such as Colorado, Washington, Vermont, Oregon. This is a direct result of the prolonged COVID closures, low wages, inflation and the pitiful way this country deals with mental illness.

Crime is up in Ward 3 more than other parts of DC. Ward 3 has experienced a 45 percent in crime year-over-year. That compares with a 27 percent increase for DC at large. While voucher holders may not directly be the source, there is a strong argument that they are indirectly contributing. Case in point is that the shooter in this month's "incident" had entry access to the Saratoga even though he wasn't a resident. One solution could be capping the number of vouchers per building to avoid destabilizing a building or a neighborhood. Another solution would be to use some of this available housing stock to provide vouchers for teachers, law enforcement and other first responders/essential workers who are priced out of the neighborhood. Voucher recipients should also be required to access services as needed.

If this is not curbed, people will leave the neighborhood and it will create a spiraling effect. There are terrible market distortions and perverse incentives in the voucher program that need to be corrected. But more importantly, more lives could be unnecessarily lost.

Here's the data for ward 3 crime: https://crimecards.dc.gov/all:crimes/all:weapons/1:year%20to%20date/in:Ward:3
Here's the data for dc-wide crime:https://crimecards.dc.gov/

Thank you for sharing the link to the data. Citywide crime is up 28% and violent crime is up 37%. In Wards 1 and 6, violent crime is up more than 60% - that's homicide, sex abuse, assault with a dangerous weapon and robbery. There is not only more crime today than last year (and also pre-pandemic), a greater share of that crime is violent crime. I know a lot of focus is on the Ward 3 councilmember (as it should be) but where do the at-large members and other ward councilmembers stand?

All but JLG voted for Pinto's Emergency bill. I've reached out to Frumin, Mendelson and 3 at large re: her new bill and have gotten no response.

For anyone wanting data re: FH, look at crime cards for PSA and then look at change in 5 years. It is the biggest % increase in crime of anywhere in the entire city. It has been confirmed by MPD, acknowledged by Frumin and was noted in a WP article re: Cheh. Violent crime is way up but so are property crimes such as stolen autos. That is a real economic burden on renters who may barely be able to afford the area and who may need vehicle to take a child to school, for work or for medical appointments.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The city council and other states would not be afraid of increasing their local police cadet programs and recruitment if there was no such thing as police brutality. We have watched and continue to watch armed police officers assault and brutalize the civilian population while absolutely not really going after violent criminals until after the offense has been committed.

I distinctly remember the Uvalde school shooting, where grown armed police officers left children and school staff to fend for themselves. Yet they had artillery to take out one man.

MORE POLICE DOES NOT = PROTECTION! The Supreme Court has already ruled that police officers are not necessarily obligated to put themselves in harms way for you.

Harriet's Dreams has really started brigading this site with their copy/paste scripts.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is what Matt meant by making “Ward 3 More Welcoming.” How’s it working out?

Serious danger to community residents from violence like this is “out of site out of mind” to people like Frumin. He truly does not care at all.

I don't know how many times it needs to be stressed here. Most voucher recipients are not habitual violent criminals or offenders, there is a small minority. It should also be noted crime is up in white states such as Colorado, Washington, Vermont, Oregon. This is a direct result of the prolonged COVID closures, low wages, inflation and the pitiful way this country deals with mental illness.

Crime is up in Ward 3 more than other parts of DC. Ward 3 has experienced a 45 percent in crime year-over-year. That compares with a 27 percent increase for DC at large. While voucher holders may not directly be the source, there is a strong argument that they are indirectly contributing. Case in point is that the shooter in this month's "incident" had entry access to the Saratoga even though he wasn't a resident. One solution could be capping the number of vouchers per building to avoid destabilizing a building or a neighborhood. Another solution would be to use some of this available housing stock to provide vouchers for teachers, law enforcement and other first responders/essential workers who are priced out of the neighborhood. Voucher recipients should also be required to access services as needed.

If this is not curbed, people will leave the neighborhood and it will create a spiraling effect. There are terrible market distortions and perverse incentives in the voucher program that need to be corrected. But more importantly, more lives could be unnecessarily lost.

Here's the data for ward 3 crime: https://crimecards.dc.gov/all:crimes/all:weapons/1:year%20to%20date/in:Ward:3
Here's the data for dc-wide crime:https://crimecards.dc.gov/

Thank you for sharing the link to the data. Citywide crime is up 28% and violent crime is up 37%. In Wards 1 and 6, violent crime is up more than 60% - that's homicide, sex abuse, assault with a dangerous weapon and robbery. There is not only more crime today than last year (and also pre-pandemic), a greater share of that crime is violent crime. I know a lot of focus is on the Ward 3 councilmember (as it should be) but where do the at-large members and other ward councilmembers stand?

All but JLG voted for Pinto's Emergency bill. I've reached out to Frumin, Mendelson and 3 at large re: her new bill and have gotten no response.

For anyone wanting data re: FH, look at crime cards for PSA and then look at change in 5 years. It is the biggest % increase in crime of anywhere in the entire city. It has been confirmed by MPD, acknowledged by Frumin and was noted in a WP article re: Cheh. Violent crime is way up but so are property crimes such as stolen autos. That is a real economic burden on renters who may barely be able to afford the area and who may need vehicle to take a child to school, for work or for medical appointments.

Looks like we now have correlation and causation established. The biggest increase in crime in any part of DC over the past five years. And those that live here definitely feel it. Frumin needs to be held accountable for not responding to his constituents.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The city council and other states would not be afraid of increasing their local police cadet programs and recruitment if there was no such thing as police brutality. We have watched and continue to watch armed police officers assault and brutalize the civilian population while absolutely not really going after violent criminals until after the offense has been committed.

I distinctly remember the Uvalde school shooting, where grown armed police officers left children and school staff to fend for themselves. Yet they had artillery to take out one man.

MORE POLICE DOES NOT = PROTECTION! The Supreme Court has already ruled that police officers are not necessarily obligated to put themselves in harms way for you.

Every time Harriet's Dreams spams the board/thread, call or email a CM and make sure regular citizens and PARENTS, not activists who may not even live here and who are likely funded by DC Justice Lab, have OUR voices heard. Encourage friends, neighbors and acquaintances to do so as well. Repeatedly. Even if they don't reply, even if you are in W1 or W6. They do tally the messages and even Nadeau and Allen voted for Pinto's bill in June.

This script has had FAR too much sway with the Council, also in the pocket of DC Justice Lab, who not only has largely drafted recent crime bills, but also talking points for CM and their staffs. We need to make the message, "ENOUGH", clear. Far too many homicides, far too many shot black kids, far too much violence citywide and degradation of quality of life.

They have invaded a board of concerned parents and have shown us EXACTLY what activist narratives the Council has been controlled by in getting to the status quo. Act accordingly to counter with common sense.

https://dccouncil.gov/council-directory/

You are not only represented by your CM but also the chair and the 3 at large members.

If you work in DC or come in for entertainment, dining, tourism, etc., make your voice heard too, to Mendelson and at large members.

Expressing support for Pinto's efforts would also not be misplaced.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is what Matt meant by making “Ward 3 More Welcoming.” How’s it working out?

Serious danger to community residents from violence like this is “out of site out of mind” to people like Frumin. He truly does not care at all.

I don't know how many times it needs to be stressed here. Most voucher recipients are not habitual violent criminals or offenders, there is a small minority. It should also be noted crime is up in white states such as Colorado, Washington, Vermont, Oregon. This is a direct result of the prolonged COVID closures, low wages, inflation and the pitiful way this country deals with mental illness.

Crime is up in Ward 3 more than other parts of DC. Ward 3 has experienced a 45 percent in crime year-over-year. That compares with a 27 percent increase for DC at large. While voucher holders may not directly be the source, there is a strong argument that they are indirectly contributing. Case in point is that the shooter in this month's "incident" had entry access to the Saratoga even though he wasn't a resident. One solution could be capping the number of vouchers per building to avoid destabilizing a building or a neighborhood. Another solution would be to use some of this available housing stock to provide vouchers for teachers, law enforcement and other first responders/essential workers who are priced out of the neighborhood. Voucher recipients should also be required to access services as needed.

If this is not curbed, people will leave the neighborhood and it will create a spiraling effect. There are terrible market distortions and perverse incentives in the voucher program that need to be corrected. But more importantly, more lives could be unnecessarily lost.

Here's the data for ward 3 crime: https://crimecards.dc.gov/all:crimes/all:weapons/1:year%20to%20date/in:Ward:3
Here's the data for dc-wide crime:https://crimecards.dc.gov/

Thank you for sharing the link to the data. Citywide crime is up 28% and violent crime is up 37%. In Wards 1 and 6, violent crime is up more than 60% - that's homicide, sex abuse, assault with a dangerous weapon and robbery. There is not only more crime today than last year (and also pre-pandemic), a greater share of that crime is violent crime. I know a lot of focus is on the Ward 3 councilmember (as it should be) but where do the at-large members and other ward councilmembers stand?

All but JLG voted for Pinto's Emergency bill. I've reached out to Frumin, Mendelson and 3 at large re: her new bill and have gotten no response.

For anyone wanting data re: FH, look at crime cards for PSA and then look at change in 5 years. It is the biggest % increase in crime of anywhere in the entire city. It has been confirmed by MPD, acknowledged by Frumin and was noted in a WP article re: Cheh. Violent crime is way up but so are property crimes such as stolen autos. That is a real economic burden on renters who may barely be able to afford the area and who may need vehicle to take a child to school, for work or for medical appointments.

Looks like we now have correlation and causation established. The biggest increase in crime in any part of DC over the past five years. And those that live here definitely feel it. Frumin needs to be held accountable for not responding to his constituents.

Exactly. But, he was just elected and there is no getting him out for years yet. Our focus need s to be on legislation that will undo some of the policies that got us to this point. The pressure needs to be kept on him from those in Ward 3, but also Mendelson and at large. Frumin is only 1 vote. He is on the housing committee though.

Robert White has an upcoming listening session at the Tenley library and there will be a Ward 3 crime meeting with the new chief and Frumin and MPD in October. I urge as many to attend, to stream or to watch recording of meeting as possible, they track that. Also, Frumin is sure to be at Art All Night for Forest Hills and Tenley. Let your voice be heard, directly, and in earshot of neighbors.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is what Matt meant by making “Ward 3 More Welcoming.” How’s it working out?

Serious danger to community residents from violence like this is “out of site out of mind” to people like Frumin. He truly does not care at all.

I don't know how many times it needs to be stressed here. Most voucher recipients are not habitual violent criminals or offenders, there is a small minority. It should also be noted crime is up in white states such as Colorado, Washington, Vermont, Oregon. This is a direct result of the prolonged COVID closures, low wages, inflation and the pitiful way this country deals with mental illness.

Which specific mental illnesses cause violent criminality and how can they be effectively treated?

In honor of your post I just emailed Anita Bond's office, at large CM, in support of Pinto's bill, had been meaning to do so, thanks for the inspo. Thank you for laying your rhetoric out, over and over on this thread, it has been enlightening, perhaps not in the way you intend. The Council certainly needs to hear the reality based concerns of actual residents.

https://dccouncil.gov/council-directory/

[Anonymous]

It’s wild to me that Frumin has not responded to even one of my emails re: crime. Say what you will about Mary Cheh, her office always responded to my queries, even when we disagreed.
Frumin is not up to this job.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't know how many times it needs to be stressed here. Most voucher recipients are not habitual violent criminals or offenders, there is a small minority.

We have plenty of evidence at this point that a lot of criminality is brought in with the voucher program. Thankfully The Washington Post actually sent reporters out to these situations to dig into what was happening, or else we'd still have people claiming that this never happened.

Whether it's 15% of the voucher holders causing that or 70%, it doesn't change the fact that the program is making these neighborhoods visibly more dangerous.

The WashPo like most news media is drumming up unnecessary. hysteria. They should have been investigating why DC was the very last to reopen schools and local gov't agency departments for services.

They'd be investigating forever because that is just not true. My DCPS was one of the first in the entire DMV to reopen in-person.

Wherher it's you talking about schools or others minimizing crime this endemic of blatant intentional lying is destroying our society.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't know how many times it needs to be stressed here. Most voucher recipients are not habitual violent criminals or offenders, there is a small minority.

We have plenty of evidence at this point that a lot of criminality is brought in with the voucher program. Thankfully The Washington Post actually sent reporters out to these situations to dig into what was happening, or else we'd still have people claiming that this never happened.

Whether it's 15% of the voucher holders causing that or 70%, it doesn't change the fact that the program is making these neighborhoods visibly more dangerous.

The WashPo like most news media is drumming up unnecessary. hysteria. They should have been investigating why DC was the very last to reopen schools and local gov't agency departments for services.

curious to know if you supported opening schools back in Nov 2020 or if you were one of the ones spouting the WTU line that it was “unsafe”?

ps - TWO high school kids were shot to death on their way home from school this month. this is not “hysteria.” I am very concerned for my child’s safety.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is what Matt meant by making “Ward 3 More Welcoming.” How’s it working out?

Serious danger to community residents from violence like this is “out of site out of mind” to people like Frumin. He truly does not care at all.

I don't know how many times it needs to be stressed here. Most voucher recipients are not habitual violent criminals or offenders, there is a small minority. It should also be noted crime is up in white states such as Colorado, Washington, Vermont, Oregon. This is a direct result of the prolonged COVID closures, low wages, inflation and the pitiful way this country deals with mental illness.

Crime is up in Ward 3 more than other parts of DC. Ward 3 has experienced a 45 percent in crime year-over-year. That compares with a 27 percent increase for DC at large. While voucher holders may not directly be the source, there is a strong argument that they are indirectly contributing. Case in point is that the shooter in this month's "incident" had entry access to the Saratoga even though he wasn't a resident. One solution could be capping the number of vouchers per building to avoid destabilizing a building or a neighborhood. Another solution would be to use some of this available housing stock to provide vouchers for teachers, law enforcement and other first responders/essential workers who are priced out of the neighborhood. Voucher recipients should also be required to access services as needed.

If this is not curbed, people will leave the neighborhood and it will create a spiraling effect. There are terrible market distortions and perverse incentives in the voucher program that need to be corrected. But more importantly, more lives could be unnecessarily lost.

Here's the data for ward 3 crime: https://crimecards.dc.gov/all:crimes/all:weapons/1:year%20to%20date/in:Ward:3
Here's the data for dc-wide crime:https://crimecards.dc.gov/

Thank you for sharing the link to the data. Citywide crime is up 28% and violent crime is up 37%. In Wards 1 and 6, violent crime is up more than 60% - that's homicide, sex abuse, assault with a dangerous weapon and robbery. There is not only more crime today than last year (and also pre-pandemic), a greater share of that crime is violent crime. I know a lot of focus is on the Ward 3 councilmember (as it should be) but where do the at-large members and other ward councilmembers stand?

All but JLG voted for Pinto's Emergency bill. I've reached out to Frumin, Mendelson and 3 at large re: her new bill and have gotten no response.

For anyone wanting data re: FH, look at crime cards for PSA and then look at change in 5 years. It is the biggest % increase in crime of anywhere in the entire city. It has been confirmed by MPD, acknowledged by Frumin and was noted in a WP article re: Cheh. Violent crime is way up but so are property crimes such as stolen autos. That is a real economic burden on renters who may barely be able to afford the area and who may need vehicle to take a child to school, for work or for medical appointments.

Looks like we now have correlation and causation established. The biggest increase in crime in any part of DC over the past five years. And those that live here definitely feel it. Frumin needs to be held accountable for not responding to his constituents.

Exactly. But, he was just elected and there is no getting him out for years yet. Our focus need s to be on legislation that will undo some of the policies that got us to this point. The pressure needs to be kept on him from those in Ward 3, but also Mendelson and at large. Frumin is only 1 vote. He is on the housing committee though.

Robert White has an upcoming listening session at the Tenley library and there will be a Ward 3 crime meeting with the new chief and Frumin and MPD in October. I urge as many to attend, to stream or to watch recording of meeting as possible, they track that. Also, Frumin is sure to be at Art All Night for Forest Hills and Tenley. Let your voice be heard, directly, and in earshot of neighbors.

He can be recalled beginning in January.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It’s wild to me that Frumin has not responded to even one of my emails re: crime. Say what you will about Mary Cheh, her office always responded to my queries, even when we disagreed.
Frumin is not up to this job.

Same.