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Bay Area. It’s a bit annoying like I said. I liked the reduced traffic and reduced rents. It felt calmer after years of too much expansion. But everything is skyrocketing again now. Jobs are back in person. People are moving back. I’m hearing the insane stories about rent again. Sigh. I believe nobody is moving to SoCal. There aren’t jobs or water there. Also, FYI because you seem a bit confused, SF is not at all the same thing as the Bay Area. I wouldn’t move to SF myself and I grew up there. But red state and conservative media generally assume the Tenderloin is the same thing as the state of California. Personally I kind of liked the conservative story about the Tenderloin or Skid Row being the same as all of California because it kept people away. But those days seem to be ending unfortunately. |
The increase in traffic is like you said, people going back to the office. I didn't mention the Bay Area, just SF as I know they had a lot leave during the pandemic and are probably returning to go back to in office work. The people and family I know from that area love it, but COL and quality of life is better for them in the Sacramento area, and the area is full of those who left SF. Several of husband's family relocated to Sacramento area, and others are considering it, but they are from SoCal so it would be a really big adjustment and other family will still be down there. If you are seeing a big increase again, it is probably those who left during the pandemic returning. I have not seen any data reporting an increase in population., especially from other states. Also, I am not confused about the Tenderloin area. Recent visit was probably my last for a while. My SIL is in an upscale LA County area and has homeless bathing in the water fountains and needles on the sidewalk, strung out homeless entering into businesses and harrassing employees, etc. I lived there for a decade and go back often and have never seen anything like it is now. It is not confined to the poor areas or skid row. "San Francisco's population has fallen 6.3 percent during the pandemic–– the most of any U.S. city, according to the latest census data. The Bay City lost 54,813 people between July 2020 and 2021 as residents bailed out for remote work, the San Francisco Chronicle reported." https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2022-03-25/california-census-data https://therealdeal.com/sanfrancisco/2022/05/04/state-report-bay-area-population-drops-again/ https://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/Census-data-shows-how-many-people-left-SF-in-COVID-17028430.php |
Dems and moderates along with R’s are flooding into red states. It has nothing to do with abortion; it is a general reaction to taxes and liberal policies. It’s been well-documented in the last year. And the new employment data prompted the comment about red states. I didn’t specifically refer to TX, and neither did the headlines I saw. They just said red states. Point being: this is all happening, and it’s well-document. It’s not an opinion, it’s a fact. I just don’t see anyone moving because of SC decision. I don’t think anyone living in TX or AL is surprised. They’ve been living with restricted access for years. Pretty sure they know how to navigate this. |
The hypocrites go to a blue state where women's rights are protected and get the health care needed, obviously. Then get sued by the vigilantes. What a great situation. |
+1 to all of the above. It is indeed a documented fact that people are leaving blue states in droves and pouring into red states. I think some here simply don't like to acknowledge that truth. |
+1 states with greatest population loss: New York, Illinois, California |
+1 |
| It’s funny but lately I’ve been meeting transplants from Malibu in Franklin TN |
I am absolutely moving if the VA GOP/Youngkin attack women’s rights. And the SCOTUS decision just came out. It takes time to see a shift. Women won’t stick around if they are oppressed. |
All of my kids - sons and daughters - think that the red states are sh1t holes. They actually are so disgusted by all of this GOP insanity that they want to move abroad. Any intelligent, decent human would stay far away from the GOP/red states. |
You’ve been meeting? Ha ha! How many are you meeting? |
What a wonder that you have raised such ..... children... I'm sure they can't get out of the country fast enough/ lol. |
+2. This is true. My kids are the same. |
I think moving abroad seems like a wise decision for your family. |
+ a million And the sooner the better. |