So natives can take back America since it was there ancestral homeland and not "Americans". |
If their getting exterminating, why not offer them half of the US then? |
why have they always been forced out? |
When and where did they get "exterminated"? And your admitting that they are the ones doing the exterminating right now, what a way to make sure your not the one getting 'exterminated'. |
Congratulations, you’ve added “ignorant” to your list of ignoble qualities. Read your history of the war of ‘47-‘48 and you’ll find your answer. (The infamous quote is sometimes translated as “annihilation”, but that’s splitting hairs). And yes, the Palestinians are absolutely decrying Israel for a war of extermination. Yet here you are criticizing Israel for its conduct while supporting the same against Israel. Hypocrisy writ large. |
+1 Posting only that "Jews are bad" and "Palestinians are helpless victims of evil Israel" unsurprisingly results in nothing but derision. Wouldn't you be happier back in Gaza surrounded by your own kind, than here in the bosom of Israel's evil ally? It's confusing. Why do you enjoy the safety and protection of the U.S. while simultaneously decrying how terrible this country is for supporting Israel over Gazan terror? Surely you'd rather be among sympathetic like-minded "victims" rather than here where we see terror for the pure unadulterated and utterly inexcusable (but, the "nakba"!) evil it is. |
Read the books I've referenced, written by Israeli historians like Ilan Pappe (who, by the way, had to leave Israel because telling the truth earned him death threats from Zionist fanatics). You could find the video of the Palestinian prisoner in Sde Teiman being gang-raped quite easily on your own, but since you want to be spoon fed: https://www.theguardian.com/world/video/2024/aug/08/israeli-media-alleged-sexual-abuse-palestinian-detainee-video You must be aware that Israelis, including senior officials, protested outside the prison -- not because they were disgusted by the behavior of the prison staff, but because they did not want the perpetrators held accountable -- FOR RAPE! This was after the victim had to be hospitalized. Here's another article about abuses in Sde Teiman, which describes the work of an Israeli human rights attorney, Roni Pelli, who has heard reports of violence and abuse from Israeli whistleblowers: https://theintercept.com/2024/08/09/israel-prison-sde-teiman-palestinian-abuse-torture/ Here is a CNN report based on the testimony of Israeli whistleblowers: https://www.cnn.com/2024/05/10/middleeast/israel-sde-teiman-detention-whistleblowers-intl-cmd/index.html Sadly, some people are profoundly racist toward Palestinians and relish their abuse, as did those Israelis who tried to defend the Sde Teiman rape. These concerns are not raised by "Hamas operatives" (whatever that is supposed to mean) or antisemites. Claiming so is a lazy, malicious, and ignorant way to try to deflect serious questions. Instead, these concerns are being aired by credible agents. Several countries and organizations (such as Amnesty International and Human Rights Watch) have accused Israel of committing genocide. Doctors without Borders have added their voices to the outrage. Independent journalists have risked (and lost) their lives attempting to document Israel's abuses. The UN Human Rights Commission also determined that Israel is carrying out genocidal acts and systematically employing sexual violence as a tool to destroy the Palestinian people. "Israel has increasingly employed sexual, reproductive and other forms of gender-based violence against Palestinians as part of a broader effort to undermine their right to self-determination and carried out genocidal acts through the systematic destruction of sexual and reproductive healthcare facilities, according to a new report issued today by the UN Independent International Commission of Inquiry on the Occupied Palestinian Territory, including East Jerusalem, and Israel. " From: https://www.ohchr.org/en/press-releases/2025/03/more-human-can-bear-israels-systematic-use-sexual-reproductive-and-other You can read the full report here: https://www.ohchr.org/sites/default/files/documents/hrbodies/hrcouncil/sessions-regular/session58/a-hrc-58-crp-6.pdf |
Because God loves them more than others apparently |
Given Hamas’ leaders were not born in Palestine but in Egypt, Lebanon, and Jordan, what good would Trump and Netanyahus refugee plan be? Netanyahu went to High school in Philadelphia and spent most of his childhood here.
It’s obvious radicalism does not end once either group is extracted from the physical locale |
One of the saddest things I’ve seen is Israel supporting the founder of Hamas’ son who is now a pro Israel supposed “ex Hamas” defector and financially and physically supporting him to speak to college audiences. Israel thinks they’re so smart yet they don’t realize they may be getting had.
Israel will kill a toddler and beat the literal shit out of a doctor but spare the life of a son of Hamas who is “talking against” Hamas yet still bearing his dads name. |
Hamas is fooling Israel and Netanyahu and taking both for a ride in my opinion |
How are the Palestinians the losers if they (at least Hamas) don’t care about dying? I genuinely think the Crusades is a big harbinger of Israel’s future fate (particularly the bankruptcy it caused the Roman Empire). Despite all the death, Islam still dominates the Holy Land and Catholicism utterly failed even among Palestinian or lebanese Christians to make a mark. Yes, Judaism isn’t on a crusade but they have an even weirder/stranger scenario because they plan to live there permanently in a majority Muslim region. By mistreating Palestinian, they will have to live in permawar and hypervigilence and who wants to live like that? First it was Egypt in the 70s then it was Lebanon in the 80s then it was Saddam, now it’s Iran they have a problem with and tomorrow it’ll be someone else. The wars of attrition are needed for their survival but aren’t working to weaken the Muslim armies who change by name by the year. This isn’t sustainable for our empire financially or theirs. Pragmatic solutions are needed |
The pragmatic solution is obvious. Egypt, Jordan, and Syria are living peacefully enough alongside Israel, post the Six-Day War of 1967 and the Yom Kippur War of 1973. Those conflicts demonstrated that the Arab world cannot defeat Israel in open warfare, and none of those countries has tried again. The Camp David Accords of 1978 resulted in peace with Egypt, and Jordan signed a peace treaty with Israel in 1994. Syria is in internal turmoil, but has left Israel alone since 1973. Those have been pragmatic resolutions to the conflicts between those countries and Israel. The losing sides gave up claims to the territory they lost as the result of their belligerence and have existed peacefully alongside Israel ever since. The Palestinians can do the same thing - give up fighting, relinquish the territory they held and used to launch their aggression on Oct 7, and go about their business somewhere else. Yemen, Sudan, anywhere without a border with Israel. That's the blueprint for peace. |
You state that Israel has left Syria alone since 1973. Yet Israel has not left Syria alone. They have bombed Syria repeatedly, destroying their self defense, navy, and military infrastructure. They have invaded Syria and are currently occupying huge areas of the country. Israel has stated these are not temporary incursions and they plan to stay in Syria. I guess that’s what you consider existing peacefully alongside Israel. They can invade, occupy, and bomb at will and the other country should just shut up and not complain because the bombing and occupying could be worse. Great blueprint for peace you have there. |
And Syria remains behind their borders, and will continue to do so by force or Israeli arms. That has been necessary due to the Syrian civil war, support for Hezbollah, and the presence of Iranian military elements. We'll have to wait and see what happens post-Assad, but it seems reasonable that Israel enforce the demilitarization of southern Syria, to prevent repeats of prior Syrian belligerence against Israel, fomented by Iran under the Assad regime. It's working. That's pragmatic. The Syrians are staying on their side of the border. They know that do resume hostilities will end badly for them. Pragmatic, indeed. |