FCPS Boundary Review Updates

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What’s the outlook for western Great Falls? I haven’t kept up with the debate, but I recall there was concern that homes west of Springvale could be rezoned to Herndon HS. At this point, how likely is that?

If they do move all those kids to Herndon, they would go with a bunch of their friends.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It sounds like the maps presented by Thru are not the maps and rezoning that the school board intended to implement.

Both Dr. Reid and our school board rep had said at public meeting that the proposed map for our area is not what was supposed to happen, and that our school will likely move as a unit, not a split feeder as it has been on all the Thru maps.

If this is happening in one pyramid, it means it is happening everywhere. It also means Thru came up with different solutions than the ones the school board intended when they changed 8130, which might explain why Thru came up with making Hunt Valley a split feeder to SoCo (a better solution than to Lewis), instead of rezoning the entire school to Lewis like was on the leaked maps from last summer.

Based on the reactions this and last week from Dr. Reid and at least one school board rep, it appears that the summer maps are going to be a huge summer surprise and probably very different from the Thru maps so far.

Buckle up, parents. It is going to get worse.

I’ve heard the same. What will happen? Go back to the Lewis proposal or keep things as is? They can’t move the whole
HV to south county schools.

I’m sorry, I missed something. In WHICH public meeting was this mentioned? And about which school?

There was a FCPS planning meeting this week with Reid, and several smaller meeting online with school board reps. People emailing school board reps. A high school PTA meeting featuring 2 school board reps.

What came out in those meetings is:

No grandfathering high schools so they can rezone students from other schools into those spots.

The proposed split feeder in our pyramid was not supposed to be a split feeder. The original plan was to rezone the entire school as a single entity, not a new split feeder.

Checking residency before rezoning is too much work, even though they are aware that residency fraud might be skewing the capacity numbers, so FCPS will keep the current honor system that brought us Hayfield football.

People are asking questions, and are getting slip of tongue answers from fcps leadership that are likely honest answers they weren't intending to share.

I'm sorry, but the Thru proposals that are online now, while certainly subject to later revision, are the only thing one can assume reflects the latest thinking. I don't care what Sandy Anderson may be telling people on the side. She doesn't have much credibility and, in any event, there have regularly been people coming on here and posting false information that aligns more closely with their own preferences. Especially insofar as it relates to West Springfield.

Sandy Anderson implied, or more or less stated, that what is on these initial maps is just a starting point and there are massive changes and shifts to come. Basically, you shouldn't get too upset because you haven't seen the REAL deal with these boundary change maps.

Honestly, I just don't know what to think. The initial set of maps didn't seem to do much of anything. Upending an awful lot of kids to adjust percentages by a percent or two for a few years before natural population shifts would have resolved, and in some cases potentially creating overcrowding where there was none. I've been wondering if this initial set of maps is just a red herring with something much more substantial (sinister?) to come. Either that or the contractor is completely inept.

At the meetings in the Fall, the whole focus from the contractor and the Superintendent was - Tell us what objectives need to be addressed in a boundary study. So asinine. Why would you go down this path without first having the Objectives defined. If there are specific problems or schools specifically state that and draw up three solutions to each. Be transparent about the actual problems. Making this so nebulous just feels like a cascading load of crap for the entire community to deal with.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What’s the outlook for western Great Falls? I haven’t kept up with the debate, but I recall there was concern that homes west of Springvale could be rezoned to Herndon HS. At this point, how likely is that?

If they do move all those kids to Herndon, they would go with a bunch of their friends.

And leave a lot of their friends behind. We know you’re incapable of seeing this as a hit to mental health, but we all see it for what it is.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:holy shit, the single family homes in timberlane going from longfellow/mclean high to falls church are going to plumet, the neighborhood is livid

https://timberlanemcleanpyramid.com/

Good for them. They need to fight this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It sounds like the maps presented by Thru are not the maps and rezoning that the school board intended to implement.

Both Dr. Reid and our school board rep had said at public meeting that the proposed map for our area is not what was supposed to happen, and that our school will likely move as a unit, not a split feeder as it has been on all the Thru maps.

If this is happening in one pyramid, it means it is happening everywhere. It also means Thru came up with different solutions than the ones the school board intended when they changed 8130, which might explain why Thru came up with making Hunt Valley a split feeder to SoCo (a better solution than to Lewis), instead of rezoning the entire school to Lewis like was on the leaked maps from last summer.

Based on the reactions this and last week from Dr. Reid and at least one school board rep, it appears that the summer maps are going to be a huge summer surprise and probably very different from the Thru maps so far.

Buckle up, parents. It is going to get worse.

I’ve heard the same. What will happen? Go back to the Lewis proposal or keep things as is? They can’t move the whole
HV to south county schools.

I’m sorry, I missed something. In WHICH public meeting was this mentioned? And about which school?

There was a FCPS planning meeting this week with Reid, and several smaller meeting online with school board reps. People emailing school board reps. A high school PTA meeting featuring 2 school board reps.

What came out in those meetings is:

No grandfathering high schools so they can rezone students from other schools into those spots.

The proposed split feeder in our pyramid was not supposed to be a split feeder. The original plan was to rezone the entire school as a single entity, not a new split feeder.

Checking residency before rezoning is too much work, even though they are aware that residency fraud might be skewing the capacity numbers, so FCPS will keep the current honor system that brought us Hayfield football.

People are asking questions, and are getting slip of tongue answers from fcps leadership that are likely honest answers they weren't intending to share.

I'm sorry, but the Thru proposals that are online now, while certainly subject to later revision, are the only thing one can assume reflects the latest thinking. I don't care what Sandy Anderson may be telling people on the side. She doesn't have much credibility and, in any event, there have regularly been people coming on here and posting false information that aligns more closely with their own preferences. Especially insofar as it relates to West Springfield.

Sandy Anderson implied, or more or less stated, that what is on these initial maps is just a starting point and there are massive changes and shifts to come. Basically, you shouldn't get too upset because you haven't seen the REAL deal with these boundary change maps.

Honestly, I just don't know what to think. The initial set of maps didn't seem to do much of anything. Upending an awful lot of kids to adjust percentages by a percent or two for a few years before natural population shifts would have resolved, and in some cases potentially creating overcrowding where there was none. I've been wondering if this initial set of maps is just a red herring with something much more substantial (sinister?) to come. Either that or the contractor is completely inept.

At the meetings in the Fall, the whole focus from the contractor and the Superintendent was - Tell us what objectives need to be addressed in a boundary study. So asinine. Why would you go down this path without first having the Objectives defined. If there are specific problems or schools specifically state that and draw up three solutions to each. Be transparent about the actual problems. Making this so nebulous just feels like a cascading load of crap for the entire community to deal with.

I can't tell if Sandy Anderson is a complete idiot or you just like to make her out to be one.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What’s the outlook for western Great Falls? I haven’t kept up with the debate, but I recall there was concern that homes west of Springvale could be rezoned to Herndon HS. At this point, how likely is that?

If they do move all those kids to Herndon, they would go with a bunch of their friends.

And leave a lot of their friends behind. We know you’re incapable of seeing this as a hit to mental health, but we all see it for what it is.

Just ignore the idiotic PP. There are zero indications that area will be moved to Herndon, and it's just killing them, so they have to make things up to feel better about themselves.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It sounds like the maps presented by Thru are not the maps and rezoning that the school board intended to implement.

Both Dr. Reid and our school board rep had said at public meeting that the proposed map for our area is not what was supposed to happen, and that our school will likely move as a unit, not a split feeder as it has been on all the Thru maps.

If this is happening in one pyramid, it means it is happening everywhere. It also means Thru came up with different solutions than the ones the school board intended when they changed 8130, which might explain why Thru came up with making Hunt Valley a split feeder to SoCo (a better solution than to Lewis), instead of rezoning the entire school to Lewis like was on the leaked maps from last summer.

Based on the reactions this and last week from Dr. Reid and at least one school board rep, it appears that the summer maps are going to be a huge summer surprise and probably very different from the Thru maps so far.

Buckle up, parents. It is going to get worse.

I’ve heard the same. What will happen? Go back to the Lewis proposal or keep things as is? They can’t move the whole
HV to south county schools.

I’m sorry, I missed something. In WHICH public meeting was this mentioned? And about which school?

There was a FCPS planning meeting this week with Reid, and several smaller meeting online with school board reps. People emailing school board reps. A high school PTA meeting featuring 2 school board reps.

What came out in those meetings is:

No grandfathering high schools so they can rezone students from other schools into those spots.

The proposed split feeder in our pyramid was not supposed to be a split feeder. The original plan was to rezone the entire school as a single entity, not a new split feeder.

Checking residency before rezoning is too much work, even though they are aware that residency fraud might be skewing the capacity numbers, so FCPS will keep the current honor system that brought us Hayfield football.

People are asking questions, and are getting slip of tongue answers from fcps leadership that are likely honest answers they weren't intending to share.

NOT meetings with school board reps. The meetings were with communities getting rezoned. The HOAs are setting them up.

WTF? How is this even allowed? All meetings should be advertise and open to the public. Screw you, Emerald Chase.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:holy shit, the single family homes in timberlane going from longfellow/mclean high to falls church are going to plumet, the neighborhood is livid

https://timberlanemcleanpyramid.com/

Yes, are you new here? We've been talking about this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:holy shit, the single family homes in timberlane going from longfellow/mclean high to falls church are going to plumet, the neighborhood is livid

https://timberlanemcleanpyramid.com/

I’m skeptical of the 20% comment. The Westwood Park neighborhood is split between Marshall and McLean and there is no McLean premium. The gap to Falls Church is bigger, but it doesn’t make a $1M house $800k.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It sounds like the maps presented by Thru are not the maps and rezoning that the school board intended to implement.

Both Dr. Reid and our school board rep had said at public meeting that the proposed map for our area is not what was supposed to happen, and that our school will likely move as a unit, not a split feeder as it has been on all the Thru maps.

If this is happening in one pyramid, it means it is happening everywhere. It also means Thru came up with different solutions than the ones the school board intended when they changed 8130, which might explain why Thru came up with making Hunt Valley a split feeder to SoCo (a better solution than to Lewis), instead of rezoning the entire school to Lewis like was on the leaked maps from last summer.

Based on the reactions this and last week from Dr. Reid and at least one school board rep, it appears that the summer maps are going to be a huge summer surprise and probably very different from the Thru maps so far.

Buckle up, parents. It is going to get worse.

I’ve heard the same. What will happen? Go back to the Lewis proposal or keep things as is? They can’t move the whole
HV to south county schools.

I’m sorry, I missed something. In WHICH public meeting was this mentioned? And about which school?

There was a FCPS planning meeting this week with Reid, and several smaller meeting online with school board reps. People emailing school board reps. A high school PTA meeting featuring 2 school board reps.

What came out in those meetings is:

No grandfathering high schools so they can rezone students from other schools into those spots.

The proposed split feeder in our pyramid was not supposed to be a split feeder. The original plan was to rezone the entire school as a single entity, not a new split feeder.

Checking residency before rezoning is too much work, even though they are aware that residency fraud might be skewing the capacity numbers, so FCPS will keep the current honor system that brought us Hayfield football.

People are asking questions, and are getting slip of tongue answers from fcps leadership that are likely honest answers they weren't intending to share.

NOT meetings with school board reps. The meetings were with communities getting rezoned. The HOAs are setting them up.

WTF? How is this even allowed? All meetings should be advertise and open to the public. Screw you, Emerald Chase.

Your community can ask your school board rep to schedule one. So can your PTA. It happens all the time and it is public for the people in the district that the school board rep represents.

That is what happened in all these cases.

Just call your school board member.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:holy shit, the single family homes in timberlane going from longfellow/mclean high to falls church are going to plumet, the neighborhood is livid

https://timberlanemcleanpyramid.com/

I’m skeptical of the 20% comment. The Westwood Park neighborhood is split between Marshall and McLean and there is no McLean premium. The gap to Falls Church is bigger, but it doesn’t make a $1M house $800k.

There's a premium for being zoned to Longfellow/McLean and a discount for being zoned to Timber Lane, so it cancels out. The part of Westwood Park that feeds to Marshall doesn't feed to a Title I elementary school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:holy shit, the single family homes in timberlane going from longfellow/mclean high to falls church are going to plumet, the neighborhood is livid

https://timberlanemcleanpyramid.com/

I’m skeptical of the 20% comment. The Westwood Park neighborhood is split between Marshall and McLean and there is no McLean premium. The gap to Falls Church is bigger, but it doesn’t make a $1M house $800k.

There's a premium for being zoned to Longfellow/McLean and a discount for being zoned to Timber Lane, so it cancels out. The part of Westwood Park that feeds to Marshall doesn't feed to a Title I elementary school.

GreatSchools (I know, but idiots use it) has Timber Lane as a 5 and Shrevewood as a 3.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:holy shit, the single family homes in timberlane going from longfellow/mclean high to falls church are going to plumet, the neighborhood is livid

https://timberlanemcleanpyramid.com/

I’m skeptical of the 20% comment. The Westwood Park neighborhood is split between Marshall and McLean and there is no McLean premium. The gap to Falls Church is bigger, but it doesn’t make a $1M house $800k.

There's a premium for being zoned to Longfellow/McLean and a discount for being zoned to Timber Lane, so it cancels out. The part of Westwood Park that feeds to Marshall doesn't feed to a Title I elementary school.

GreatSchools (I know, but idiots use it) has Timber Lane as a 5 and Shrevewood as a 3.

GreatSchools is incomprehensible these days. Get a good night's sleep and by then it will be just the opposite.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What’s the outlook for western Great Falls? I haven’t kept up with the debate, but I recall there was concern that homes west of Springvale could be rezoned to Herndon HS. At this point, how likely is that?

If they do move all those kids to Herndon, they would go with a bunch of their friends.

And leave a lot of their friends behind. We know you’re incapable of seeing this as a hit to mental health, but we all see it for what it is.

So what you're saying is that feeder schools are bad for our kids' mental health and each pyramid should be static with no split feeders. Your argument is that leaving friends behind is bad for their mental health. I agree. We don't want any kids to have to leave their friends behind. So, any movement in that direction will require boundary adjustment. It will be unfortunate for some kids in the present. But, assuming more split feeders are removed than created or maintained, it will be for the greater good. Clearly you see that is the logical conclusion of your argument.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What’s the outlook for western Great Falls? I haven’t kept up with the debate, but I recall there was concern that homes west of Springvale could be rezoned to Herndon HS. At this point, how likely is that?

If they do move all those kids to Herndon, they would go with a bunch of their friends.

And leave a lot of their friends behind. We know you’re incapable of seeing this as a hit to mental health, but we all see it for what it is.

So what you're saying is that feeder schools are bad for our kids' mental health and each pyramid should be static with no split feeders. Your argument is that leaving friends behind is bad for their mental health. I agree. We don't want any kids to have to leave their friends behind. So, any movement in that direction will require boundary adjustment. It will be unfortunate for some kids in the present. But, assuming more split feeders are removed than created or maintained, it will be for the greater good. Clearly you see that is the logical conclusion of your argument.

And there you go again, impacting the mental health of current students for some future theoretical gain. I volunteer your kids and Sandy Anderson’s kids (assuming you aren’t Sandy, which, to be fair, I have my suspicions that you’re one and the same) be moved first. Pick a school nearby.

Didn’t think so. You aren’t going to convince us that your right, because you aren’t.