FCPS School Board candidates in Dranesville

[Anonymous]

Schools aren’t always built in the optimum sites. Take Langley, for example: the eastern end of Georgetown Pike is a really bad location for a FCPS high school.

But sometimes you work with the sites that are available, even if that requires more changes. If you add capacity in western Fairfax, it can ultimately provide relief to Centreville and Chantilly. Not sure the hand-wringing about Oakton warrants the same level of attention, since both Oakton and Madison are getting expansions.

ar

All the more reasons it shouldn't be built in Herndon. Lots of the problems with the Langley/Herndon issue are because of Langley's location. Herndon is being expanded. It does not need relief.

The new school needs to be south of Hwy 50. That would provide relief to Chantilly and Centreville. The location being discussed would take kids from Herndon, South Lakes, and Westfield. Not Chantilly and Centreville. Look at a map.

[Anonymous]

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Schools aren’t always built in the optimum sites. Take Langley, for example: the eastern end of Georgetown Pike is a really bad location for a FCPS high school.

But sometimes you work with the sites that are available, even if that requires more changes. If you add capacity in western Fairfax, it can ultimately provide relief to Centreville and Chantilly. Not sure the hand-wringing about Oakton warrants the same level of attention, since both Oakton and Madison are getting expansions.

ar

All the more reasons it shouldn't be built in Herndon. Lots of the problems with the Langley/Herndon issue are because of Langley's location. Herndon is being expanded. It does not need relief.

The new school needs to be south of Hwy 50. That would provide relief to Chantilly and Centreville. The location being discussed would take kids from Herndon, South Lakes, and Westfield. Not Chantilly and Centreville. Look at a map.

Well, snap your fingers and make that happen. Don’t argue with people who are discussing what appears to be under consideration now.

But if they do build at the location being discussed, they can move more kids and ultimately provide relief to Centreville and Chantilly. And it might also create an opportunity to move western Great Falls to Herndon, and then allow Langley to absorb more growth in Tysons, which of course is closer to Langley than western Great Falls.

[Anonymous]

But if they do build at the location being discussed, they can move more kids and ultimately provide relief to Centreville and Chantilly. And it might also create an opportunity to move western Great Falls to Herndon, and then allow Langley to absorb more growth in Tysons, which of course is closer to Langley than western Great Falls.

Now I get it. That is your goal. It won't provide any relief to Chantilly/Centreville. You just want Great Falls into Herndon. Got it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It’s heartening to see how many people from all over Dranesville see through Ardavan’s arguments. I do give him credit for jumping into the public fray and hope that win or lose, he finds a different platform that is more equitable for all of Dranesville. We certainly need independent voices, he is right about that.

The thing I hate seeing on here more than anything is misinformation. Call it fake news or whatever you want but it does no one any service. There have been several posts just today for example that used non facts designed to scare — anonymous random message board or not that is really disheartening.

This is the candidate Ardavan Mobasheri. If I may, I find it very heartening that the many people who I speak to on a regular basis on the streets of McLean/Great Falls/Herndon can and do see the long term argument and rationale for my proposals. Most if not agree that short term band-aid solutions can and are attractive because they are quick and are cheap, but they agree that inevitably because they are quick and cheap that they will eventually become costly in the longer term and its better to manage things right now than to say let someone else in the future worry about it.

[Anonymous]

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But if they do build at the location being discussed, they can move more kids and ultimately provide relief to Centreville and Chantilly. And it might also create an opportunity to move western Great Falls to Herndon, and then allow Langley to absorb more growth in Tysons, which of course is closer to Langley than western Great Falls.

Now I get it. That is your goal. It won't provide any relief to Chantilly/Centreville. You just want Great Falls into Herndon. Got it.

Of course adding capacity in western Fairfax can provide relief to those two schools. But, depending on where they can acquire land and build, it may require boundary changes at more schools than otherwise might be the case to accomplish that.

And if there’s also an opportunity to send kids from Great Falls to a school that is 3-5 miles away rather than 12-14 miles away, FCPS would be silly not to do that and cut down on transportation times and costs.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It’s heartening to see how many people from all over Dranesville see through Ardavan’s arguments. I do give him credit for jumping into the public fray and hope that win or lose, he finds a different platform that is more equitable for all of Dranesville. We certainly need independent voices, he is right about that.

The thing I hate seeing on here more than anything is misinformation. Call it fake news or whatever you want but it does no one any service. There have been several posts just today for example that used non facts designed to scare — anonymous random message board or not that is really disheartening.

This is the candidate Ardavan Mobasheri. If I may, I find it very heartening that the many people who I speak to on a regular basis on the streets of McLean/Great Falls/Herndon can and do see the long term argument and rationale for my proposals. Most if not agree that short term band-aid solutions can and are attractive because they are quick and are cheap, but they agree that inevitably because they are quick and cheap that they will eventually become costly in the longer term and its better to manage things right now than to say let someone else in the future worry about it.

I think PP had it right that most people can “see through” your arguments. That was not a complement, in case you thought otherwise.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It’s heartening to see how many people from all over Dranesville see through Ardavan’s arguments. I do give him credit for jumping into the public fray and hope that win or lose, he finds a different platform that is more equitable for all of Dranesville. We certainly need independent voices, he is right about that.

The thing I hate seeing on here more than anything is misinformation. Call it fake news or whatever you want but it does no one any service. There have been several posts just today for example that used non facts designed to scare — anonymous random message board or not that is really disheartening.

This is the candidate Ardavan Mobasheri. If I may, I find it very heartening that the many people who I speak to on a regular basis on the streets of McLean/Great Falls/Herndon can and do see the long term argument and rationale for my proposals. Most if not agree that short term band-aid solutions can and are attractive because they are quick and are cheap, but they agree that inevitably because they are quick and cheap that they will eventually become costly in the longer term and its better to manage things right now than to say let someone else in the future worry about it.

I think PP had it right that most people can “see through” your arguments. That was not a complement, in case you thought otherwise.

I think he got it.
A lot of his arguments seem to be "All the people I talk to agree with me" when it seems obvious that is not the case.
What other person involved in public life is known for that?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:With or without Mobasheri on the School Board (hopefully without) the School Board is not going to reverse its plans, which prioritize a new high school in western Fairfax, to build a secondary school in Tysons just because some Great Falls parents want to look for even more ways to keep Langley under-enrolled so students from western Great Falls can continue to travel 12 or more miles to Langley.

His arguments in support of this are flimsy on so many levels that it's not worth rebutting them yet again. Rest assured that parents outside his community know his agenda and find it laughable.

What Great Falls parents want is not to be moved to a school with serious gang and FARMS issues, due to the County’s idiot policies. Our kids are not social experiments ripe for exploitation. Life isn’t a Barney episode.

My kids weren't into the purple dinosaur but I doubt there was an episode about gangs.

But there may have been an episode where the white and Asian kids on the show got along with Hispanic kids, and some Langley parents, apparently never having come across such a situation, find it preposterous. And then they wonder why people steer clear and Langley’s enrollment keeps declining.

Once again, please provide your rationale for sending kids from a under enrolled school (Langley) to an overcrowded one (Herndon). Notice I said *your* rationale; I think even the idiotic current SB has realized this is an absurd suggestion which makes no sense. What your excuse?
-DP

[Anonymous]

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The South Lakes redistricting was 12 years ago. Try to move on like others have. Not every decision will make everyone happy.

You didn't get the point. The point was that families don't want boundary changes even when it is to a "better" school like Oakton. And, there are good reasons.

I understood your point. It doesn’t have the same impact when it was 12 years ago and most of the affected neighborhoods are now happily at South Lakes. Nor does it have much relevance to the Dranesville race, when only two of the current SB members were on the Board and neither is seeking re-election.

But, please, keep nursing your ancient wounds and ignoring the real lesson from the South Lakes situation, which is that change is hard but sometimes necessary. If you can’t come to terms with that, maybe you can move to Falls Church City. Arlington and Montgomery change boundaries as often as Fairfax, and Loudoun and Prince William change them more frequently.

Nope. You don't get it. I have no "wounds"--in fact, my neighborhood stayed put. My point was about Chantilly kids moving to Oakton. You know--from a lower SES school to a "better" one. My kids had friends that were moved. PP had claims that Langley parents are upset about moving to Herndon. My point is that it likely has nothing to do with Herndon and everything to do with wanting to stay put. But, you keep blaming everything on racism. I get it. And, FWIW, my neighborhood was successful in staying put. We weren't moved, so I have no "wounds" as you claim.

No one has yet explained what Herndon is going to do with extra kids.

This, exactly. It’s a fever dream for some of these “progressives”. They desperately want to socially engineer the Langley/Herndon boundary, no matter that it makes zero sense. Now, if Herndon was under enrolled and Langley was over enrolled , then yes - moving kids from Langley to Herndon would make perfect sense. But that’s exactly the opposite situation.

[Anonymous]

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The South Lakes redistricting was 12 years ago. Try to move on like others have. Not every decision will make everyone happy.

You didn't get the point. The point was that families don't want boundary changes even when it is to a "better" school like Oakton. And, there are good reasons.

I understood your point. It doesn’t have the same impact when it was 12 years ago and most of the affected neighborhoods are now happily at South Lakes. Nor does it have much relevance to the Dranesville race, when only two of the current SB members were on the Board and neither is seeking re-election.

But, please, keep nursing your ancient wounds and ignoring the real lesson from the South Lakes situation, which is that change is hard but sometimes necessary. If you can’t come to terms with that, maybe you can move to Falls Church City. Arlington and Montgomery change boundaries as often as Fairfax, and Loudoun and Prince William change them more frequently.

Nope. You don't get it. I have no "wounds"--in fact, my neighborhood stayed put. My point was about Chantilly kids moving to Oakton. You know--from a lower SES school to a "better" one. My kids had friends that were moved. PP had claims that Langley parents are upset about moving to Herndon. My point is that it likely has nothing to do with Herndon and everything to do with wanting to stay put. But, you keep blaming everything on racism. I get it. And, FWIW, my neighborhood was successful in staying put. We weren't moved, so I have no "wounds" as you claim.

No one has yet explained what Herndon is going to do with extra kids.

This, exactly. It’s a fever dream for some of these “progressives”. They desperately want to socially engineer the Langley/Herndon boundary, no matter that it makes zero sense. Now, if Herndon was under enrolled and Langley was over enrolled , then yes - moving kids from Langley to Herndon would make perfect sense. But that’s exactly the opposite situation.

Such a straw-man argument. No one plans to move any Langley kids to Herndon now.

If there were a new high school in a decade in western Fairfax, of course all the boundaries there might change. At that point it would be stupid to keep busing kids 12 miles to Langley, if there were closer options.

Grow up. We are tired of your whining and stupid You Tube videos.

[Anonymous]

https://www.facebook.com/VoicesOfFairfax/posts/142768623738342

So, just found out that Elaine Tholen attended at least one boundary policy meeting before 7/22 (which she also attended) screenshots show it.

Pat Hynes endorsed her as ready to go. Now we know why. Tholen KNEW what was going on and obviously agreed, as Hynes would NOT have endorsed anyone against their "move kids around according to race and bank account" boundary policy ideals.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:https://www.facebook.com/VoicesOfFairfax/posts/142768623738342

So, just found out that Elaine Tholen attended at least one boundary policy meeting before 7/22 (which she also attended) screenshots show it.

Pat Hynes endorsed her as ready to go. Now we know why. Tholen KNEW what was going on and obviously agreed, as Hynes would NOT have endorsed anyone against their "move kids around according to race and bank account" boundary policy ideals.

The board will be better with Hynes and Strauss gone. The last thing we need is to replace either of them with a clone.

[Anonymous]

You all do realize that SB members actually discuss more than boundaries and redistricting and which schools Great Falls kids may or may not attend now or in 10 years.

How about we consider candidates who actually know something or have an opinion on all of those other actually important issues.

Novel concept I know.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You all do realize that SB members actually discuss more than boundaries and redistricting and which schools Great Falls kids may or may not attend now or in 10 years.

How about we consider candidates who actually know something or have an opinion on all of those other actually important issues.

Novel concept I know.

But then nobody would have a reason to mention Karloutsos or Mobasheri!

[Anonymous]

Tampons
Straws
Maybe getting rid of AAP for "equity's" sake.

They do worry about more than redistributing children by race and socioeconomics.

Tholen is ready to jump in on all that day one.