Kushner, Manafort and Don Jr. met with a Russian lawyer with Kremlin ties during the campaign

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Donald Jr. is going to look as "good" in Orange as daddy does. Kushner and Manifort too. That's the ballgame for these three. Federal crime committed and prove via Jr. Own tweets.

Also, is Don Jr. doiing an insanity defense thing? No sane person would tweet: Hey! Here's the written proof I committed a federal crime!

Also: Don, Jr.'s lawyer either needs to resign (because Donny did the exact opposite of what was advised. Which would have been Shut Up!). Or disbarred for gross incompetence. Dealers choice.

It's a beautiful day.

Daddy can pardon him. You don't think he will? Then you haven't been paying attention. Things aren't normal anymore.

Mueller's team is drawn from the Southern District, which is in, uh, NY, where the Trumps reside, all of them. The Southern District will move on the Trump family even if Trump pardons them. And Trump can't pardon himself.

Not quite. DOJ is federal, Trump can pardon all federal offenses. What he can't pardon are state offenses. Since this happened in NY, NY State could charge them. The question then becomes, did they break NY state law? Because NY can't charge them for breaking federal law.

The connections between Mueller's team and the Southern District are very close. These people talk to each other, obviously. When they're done with the Mueller investigation, they're going back to NY. The Southern District will prosecute the Trumps for breaking NY laws. There will be indictments in NY, count on it.

Okay. Trying again for the slow and stupid. SDNY is A FEDERAL JUDICIAL DISTRICT. Will federal crimes be prosecuted there, if they are not pardoned. Depends on several things. DC Circuit may also have a claim. But this is FEDERAL CRIMES. FEDERAL For the slow.

NY State crimes will be prosecuted in NY STATE COURT. State Crimes. State Court. Federal Crimes (can be pardoned by POTUS), Federal Court. NY STate crimes cannot be prosecuted in SDNY. See? No? *Facepalm*

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If the Russians wanted to influence the American presidential election, they did not need Donny Trump. At the time of the June 2016 meeting, they apparently already had the DNC emails and had no problems getting them in the public domain over the summer thanks to the dutiful mainstream media that will report on just about any leak.

The meeting with the Russian lawyer seems more likely designed to cultivate a relationship with the Trump family but it did not work. Jared apparently walked out of the meeting after 5-10 minutes. And Donny Trump did not follow up on the alleged evidence adverse to Hillary or her campaign. Where's the scandal?

The scandal is that Donny Jr. accepted a meeting with a foreign representative who he admits promised him dirt on his father's opponent and that's exactly why he met with her. That's against the law. Just that he accepted and met with this person.

And the other scandal is people like you, purported "Americans" (MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN) who have no problem with this behavior. You have become what you say you hate. Swamp thing.

Name the maw or regulation broken please. I want the specifics.

More to the post by, no "dirt" was exchanged.

Again, if you get caught soliciting a prostitute, it doesn't matter if you actually get your willy wet.

False equivalence. Soliciting sex is a crime, talking to someone from Russia not. Try again

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If the Russians wanted to influence the American presidential election, they did not need Donny Trump. At the time of the June 2016 meeting, they apparently already had the DNC emails and had no problems getting them in the public domain over the summer thanks to the dutiful mainstream media that will report on just about any leak.

The meeting with the Russian lawyer seems more likely designed to cultivate a relationship with the Trump family but it did not work. Jared apparently walked out of the meeting after 5-10 minutes. And Donny Trump did not follow up on the alleged evidence adverse to Hillary or her campaign. Where's the scandal?

The scandal is that Donny Jr. accepted a meeting with a foreign representative who he admits promised him dirt on his father's opponent and that's exactly why he met with her. That's against the law. Just that he accepted and met with this person.

And the other scandal is people like you, purported "Americans" (MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN) who have no problem with this behavior. You have become what you say you hate. Swamp thing.

Name the maw or regulation broken please. I want the specifics.

Educate yourself, Trumpkin. Go and f-ing Google it. Plenty of reputable news sources are referencing the laws potentially broken. FFS.

More to the post by, no "dirt" was exchanged.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If the Russians wanted to influence the American presidential election, they did not need Donny Trump. At the time of the June 2016 meeting, they apparently already had the DNC emails and had no problems getting them in the public domain over the summer thanks to the dutiful mainstream media that will report on just about any leak.

The meeting with the Russian lawyer seems more likely designed to cultivate a relationship with the Trump family but it did not work. Jared apparently walked out of the meeting after 5-10 minutes. And Donny Trump did not follow up on the alleged evidence adverse to Hillary or her campaign. Where's the scandal?

The scandal is that Donny Jr. accepted a meeting with a foreign representative who he admits promised him dirt on his father's opponent and that's exactly why he met with her. That's against the law. Just that he accepted and met with this person.

And the other scandal is people like you, purported "Americans" (MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN) who have no problem with this behavior. You have become what you say you hate. Swamp thing.

Name the maw or regulation broken please. I want the specifics.

Educate yourself, Trumpkin. Go and f-ing Google it. Plenty of reputable news sources are referencing the laws potentially broken. FFS.

More to the post by, no "dirt" was exchanged.

Then you can surely post one.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If the Russians wanted to influence the American presidential election, they did not need Donny Trump. At the time of the June 2016 meeting, they apparently already had the DNC emails and had no problems getting them in the public domain over the summer thanks to the dutiful mainstream media that will report on just about any leak.

The meeting with the Russian lawyer seems more likely designed to cultivate a relationship with the Trump family but it did not work. Jared apparently walked out of the meeting after 5-10 minutes. And Donny Trump did not follow up on the alleged evidence adverse to Hillary or her campaign. Where's the scandal?

The scandal is that Donny Jr. accepted a meeting with a foreign representative who he admits promised him dirt on his father's opponent and that's exactly why he met with her. That's against the law. Just that he accepted and met with this person.

And the other scandal is people like you, purported "Americans" (MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN) who have no problem with this behavior. You have become what you say you hate. Swamp thing.

Name the maw or regulation broken please. I want the specifics.

More to the post by, no "dirt" was exchanged.

Again, if you get caught soliciting a prostitute, it doesn't matter if you actually get your willy wet.

False equivalence. Soliciting sex is a crime, talking to someone from Russia not. Try again

Actually....

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If the Russians wanted to influence the American presidential election, they did not need Donny Trump. At the time of the June 2016 meeting, they apparently already had the DNC emails and had no problems getting them in the public domain over the summer thanks to the dutiful mainstream media that will report on just about any leak.

The meeting with the Russian lawyer seems more likely designed to cultivate a relationship with the Trump family but it did not work. Jared apparently walked out of the meeting after 5-10 minutes. And Donny Trump did not follow up on the alleged evidence adverse to Hillary or her campaign. Where's the scandal?

The scandal is that Donny Jr. accepted a meeting with a foreign representative who he admits promised him dirt on his father's opponent and that's exactly why he met with her. That's against the law. Just that he accepted and met with this person.

And the other scandal is people like you, purported "Americans" (MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN) who have no problem with this behavior. You have become what you say you hate. Swamp thing.

Name the maw or regulation broken please. I want the specifics.

More to the post by, no "dirt" was exchanged.

Again, if you get caught soliciting a prostitute, it doesn't matter if you actually get your willy wet.

False equivalence. Soliciting sex is a crime, talking to someone from Russia not. Try again

Soliciting information and other in-kind exchanges from a foreign entity during a campaign - whether or not you actually receive them - is against the law. Opposition research has a monetary value - consulting firms charge hundreds of thousands and more for that work.

Doesn't matter that Donnie Jr. didn't get "good" info. He said he wanted it. He knew it was from a source tied to the Kremlin. The fact that you are defending this reflects your tribalism, not the law. Or patriotism for that matter.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Donald Jr. is going to look as "good" in Orange as daddy does. Kushner and Manifort too. That's the ballgame for these three. Federal crime committed and prove via Jr. Own tweets.

Also, is Don Jr. doiing an insanity defense thing? No sane person would tweet: Hey! Here's the written proof I committed a federal crime!

Also: Don, Jr.'s lawyer either needs to resign (because Donny did the exact opposite of what was advised. Which would have been Shut Up!). Or disbarred for gross incompetence. Dealers choice.

It's a beautiful day.

Daddy can pardon him. You don't think he will? Then you haven't been paying attention. Things aren't normal anymore.

Mueller's team is drawn from the Southern District, which is in, uh, NY, where the Trumps reside, all of them. The Southern District will move on the Trump family even if Trump pardons them. And Trump can't pardon himself.

Not quite. DOJ is federal, Trump can pardon all federal offenses. What he can't pardon are state offenses. Since this happened in NY, NY State could charge them. The question then becomes, did they break NY state law? Because NY can't charge them for breaking federal law.

The connections between Mueller's team and the Southern District are very close. These people talk to each other, obviously. When they're done with the Mueller investigation, they're going back to NY. The Southern District will prosecute the Trumps for breaking NY laws. There will be indictments in NY, count on it.

Okay. Trying again for the slow and stupid. SDNY is A FEDERAL JUDICIAL DISTRICT. Will federal crimes be prosecuted there, if they are not pardoned. Depends on several things. DC Circuit may also have a claim. But this is FEDERAL CRIMES. FEDERAL For the slow.

NY State crimes will be prosecuted in NY STATE COURT. State Crimes. State Court. Federal Crimes (can be pardoned by POTUS), Federal Court. NY STate crimes cannot be prosecuted in SDNY. See? No? *Facepalm*

There may be racketeering in which case the good state of NY can proceed with a trial. FACEPALM.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If the Russians wanted to influence the American presidential election, they did not need Donny Trump. At the time of the June 2016 meeting, they apparently already had the DNC emails and had no problems getting them in the public domain over the summer thanks to the dutiful mainstream media that will report on just about any leak.

The meeting with the Russian lawyer seems more likely designed to cultivate a relationship with the Trump family but it did not work. Jared apparently walked out of the meeting after 5-10 minutes. And Donny Trump did not follow up on the alleged evidence adverse to Hillary or her campaign. Where's the scandal?

The scandal is that Donny Jr. accepted a meeting with a foreign representative who he admits promised him dirt on his father's opponent and that's exactly why he met with her. That's against the law. Just that he accepted and met with this person.

And the other scandal is people like you, purported "Americans" (MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN) who have no problem with this behavior. You have become what you say you hate. Swamp thing.

Name the maw or regulation broken please. I want the specifics.

Educate yourself, Trumpkin. Go and f-ing Google it. Plenty of reputable news sources are referencing the laws potentially broken. FFS.

More to the post by, no "dirt" was exchanged.

Then you can surely post one.

Look, look! It's a lazy Trumpkin.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If the Russians wanted to influence the American presidential election, they did not need Donny Trump. At the time of the June 2016 meeting, they apparently already had the DNC emails and had no problems getting them in the public domain over the summer thanks to the dutiful mainstream media that will report on just about any leak.

The meeting with the Russian lawyer seems more likely designed to cultivate a relationship with the Trump family but it did not work. Jared apparently walked out of the meeting after 5-10 minutes. And Donny Trump did not follow up on the alleged evidence adverse to Hillary or her campaign. Where's the scandal?

The scandal is that Donny Jr. accepted a meeting with a foreign representative who he admits promised him dirt on his father's opponent and that's exactly why he met with her. That's against the law. Just that he accepted and met with this person.

And the other scandal is people like you, purported "Americans" (MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN) who have no problem with this behavior. You have become what you say you hate. Swamp thing.

Name the maw or regulation broken please. I want the specifics.

More to the post by, no "dirt" was exchanged.

Again, if you get caught soliciting a prostitute, it doesn't matter if you actually get your willy wet.

False equivalence. Soliciting sex is a crime, talking to someone from Russia not. Try again

Soliciting information and other in-kind exchanges from a foreign entity during a campaign - whether or not you actually receive them - is against the law. Opposition research has a monetary value - consulting firms charge hundreds of thousands and more for that work.

Doesn't matter that Donnie Jr. didn't get "good" info. He said he wanted it. He knew it was from a source tied to the Kremlin. The fact that you are defending this reflects your tribalism, not the law. Or patriotism for that matter.

Wrong..

The FEC website clearly states foreign nationals can volunteer. DJT didn't solicit information. And what law, point to the law or regulations broken, no one can.

Furthermore, the source isn't tied to the Kremlin, you have no evidence of that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If the Russians wanted to influence the American presidential election, they did not need Donny Trump. At the time of the June 2016 meeting, they apparently already had the DNC emails and had no problems getting them in the public domain over the summer thanks to the dutiful mainstream media that will report on just about any leak.

The meeting with the Russian lawyer seems more likely designed to cultivate a relationship with the Trump family but it did not work. Jared apparently walked out of the meeting after 5-10 minutes. And Donny Trump did not follow up on the alleged evidence adverse to Hillary or her campaign. Where's the scandal?

The scandal is that Donny Jr. accepted a meeting with a foreign representative who he admits promised him dirt on his father's opponent and that's exactly why he met with her. That's against the law. Just that he accepted and met with this person.

And the other scandal is people like you, purported "Americans" (MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN) who have no problem with this behavior. You have become what you say you hate. Swamp thing.

Typical Hilbot. Unable to provide a s
Name the maw or regulation broken please. I want the specifics.

Educate yourself, Trumpkin. Go and f-ing Google it. Plenty of reputable news sources are referencing the laws potentially broken. FFS.

More to the post by, no "dirt" was exchanged.

Then you can surely post one.

Look, look! It's a lazy Trumpkin.

Typical liberal moonbats. The burden of proof is on you for the allegation. Pony up or shit up.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If the Russians wanted to influence the American presidential election, they did not need Donny Trump. At the time of the June 2016 meeting, they apparently already had the DNC emails and had no problems getting them in the public domain over the summer thanks to the dutiful mainstream media that will report on just about any leak.

The meeting with the Russian lawyer seems more likely designed to cultivate a relationship with the Trump family but it did not work. Jared apparently walked out of the meeting after 5-10 minutes. And Donny Trump did not follow up on the alleged evidence adverse to Hillary or her campaign. Where's the scandal?

The scandal is that Donny Jr. accepted a meeting with a foreign representative who he admits promised him dirt on his father's opponent and that's exactly why he met with her. That's against the law. Just that he accepted and met with this person.

And the other scandal is people like you, purported "Americans" (MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN) who have no problem with this behavior. You have become what you say you hate. Swamp thing.

Typical Hilbot. Unable to provide a s
Name the maw or regulation broken please. I want the specifics.

Educate yourself, Trumpkin. Go and f-ing Google it. Plenty of reputable news sources are referencing the laws potentially broken. FFS.

More to the post by, no "dirt" was exchanged.

Then you can surely post one.

Look, look! It's a lazy Trumpkin.

Typical liberal moonbats. The burden of proof is on you for the allegation. Pony up or shit up.

NP. I've just started reading this thread.

This is not how discussion works. Posters often post links. That's helpful. When they don't, it doesn't somehow invalidate the law or the discussion. And insults will get you nowhere.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If the Russians wanted to influence the American presidential election, they did not need Donny Trump. At the time of the June 2016 meeting, they apparently already had the DNC emails and had no problems getting them in the public domain over the summer thanks to the dutiful mainstream media that will report on just about any leak.

The meeting with the Russian lawyer seems more likely designed to cultivate a relationship with the Trump family but it did not work. Jared apparently walked out of the meeting after 5-10 minutes. And Donny Trump did not follow up on the alleged evidence adverse to Hillary or her campaign. Where's the scandal?

The scandal is that Donny Jr. accepted a meeting with a foreign representative who he admits promised him dirt on his father's opponent and that's exactly why he met with her. That's against the law. Just that he accepted and met with this person.

And the other scandal is people like you, purported "Americans" (MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN) who have no problem with this behavior. You have become what you say you hate. Swamp thing.

Name the maw or regulation broken please. I want the specifics.

More to the post by, no "dirt" was exchanged.

Again, if you get caught soliciting a prostitute, it doesn't matter if you actually get your willy wet.

False equivalence. Soliciting sex is a crime, talking to someone from Russia not. Try again

Soliciting information and other in-kind exchanges from a foreign entity during a campaign - whether or not you actually receive them - is against the law. Opposition research has a monetary value - consulting firms charge hundreds of thousands and more for that work.

Doesn't matter that Donnie Jr. didn't get "good" info. He said he wanted it. He knew it was from a source tied to the Kremlin. The fact that you are defending this reflects your tribalism, not the law. Or patriotism for that matter.

Wrong..

The FEC website clearly states foreign nationals can volunteer. DJT didn't solicit information. And what law, point to the law or regulations broken, no one can.

Furthermore, the source isn't tied to the Kremlin, you have no evidence of that.

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/01/ukraine-sabotage-trump-backfire-233446

We do have evidence that Ukrainian government helping the Clinton campaign. Why aren't we hearing any of that?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If the Russians wanted to influence the American presidential election, they did not need Donny Trump. At the time of the June 2016 meeting, they apparently already had the DNC emails and had no problems getting them in the public domain over the summer thanks to the dutiful mainstream media that will report on just about any leak.

The meeting with the Russian lawyer seems more likely designed to cultivate a relationship with the Trump family but it did not work. Jared apparently walked out of the meeting after 5-10 minutes. And Donny Trump did not follow up on the alleged evidence adverse to Hillary or her campaign. Where's the scandal?

The scandal is that Donny Jr. accepted a meeting with a foreign representative who he admits promised him dirt on his father's opponent and that's exactly why he met with her. That's against the law. Just that he accepted and met with this person.

And the other scandal is people like you, purported "Americans" (MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN) who have no problem with this behavior. You have become what you say you hate. Swamp thing.

Name the maw or regulation broken please. I want the specifics.

More to the post by, no "dirt" was exchanged.

Again, if you get caught soliciting a prostitute, it doesn't matter if you actually get your willy wet.

False equivalence. Soliciting sex is a crime, talking to someone from Russia not. Try again

Soliciting a thing of value from a foreign power in violation of federal election law? Ding ding ding.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This has to be, what, the 475,000th time DCUM liberals have thought 'this is THE thing' that will put Trump in jail. Y'all forgot your happy dance meme

Just wait until Mueller finishes his investigation!

After a year of Russia, Russia, Russia, it's pathetic that this is all they got.

Trump has been in office for 6 months. How is it a year of Russia Russia Russia?

And how dare you complain about 6 months when Trump when on for 6 years about birtherism and the GOP went on for years about Benghazi?

In this case, there are actual high crimes that have been committed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If the Russians wanted to influence the American presidential election, they did not need Donny Trump. At the time of the June 2016 meeting, they apparently already had the DNC emails and had no problems getting them in the public domain over the summer thanks to the dutiful mainstream media that will report on just about any leak.

The meeting with the Russian lawyer seems more likely designed to cultivate a relationship with the Trump family but it did not work. Jared apparently walked out of the meeting after 5-10 minutes. And Donny Trump did not follow up on the alleged evidence adverse to Hillary or her campaign. Where's the scandal?

Uh, Trump started tweeting about Hillary's 33,000 emails within minutes of this meting concluding. WTF are you talking about?