Pray for Charlotte, NC

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Interesting, very comprehensive article: http://lawofficer.com/2016/09/detectivetulsa/

[Anonymous]

A recent study by a team of professors from U.C.L.A., Harvard, Portland State University, and Boston University analyzed suspects’ booking photographs for phenotypical signs of whiteness to test the following hypothesis: “the Whiter one appears, the more the suspect will be protected from police force.” Their findings: “police used less force with highly stereotypical Whites, and this protective effect was stronger than the effect for non-Whites.”

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In cases of mistaken identity, 9 out of every 10 off-duty officers killed by other officers in the United States since 1982 were black or Latino.

[Anonymous]

^someone has been reading vanity fair

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Interesting, very comprehensive article: http://lawofficer.com/2016/09/detectivetulsa/

Thank you for posting this. It was a great read.

1st 911 Caller
This lady will be very important to the officer’s defense. She called 911 and stated that there was an abandoned vehicle in the middle of the street, with the doors open, and THE VEHICLE WAS STILL RUNNING. Obviously a vehicle could be disabled and still running, but this is still important information. She called because the vehicle was blocking traffic from both directions. This is an obvious hazard so she called. She also said that a guy was “running from the vehicle and he stated that it was going to blow up!” She immediately followed that statement with “I think he was smoking something!” His behavior was bizarre to her.

As soon as I heard the 911 calls and watched the video of him walking away from the officers, the detective in me immediately believed that Mr. Crutcher was on PCP. There is no doubt about it in my cop mind.

Hands up, but still walking equals non-compliance.
Many people have asked me “what else are we supposed to do because he had his hands up?” He had his hands up until he got to the car. The answer to that is stop walking. Partial compliance is non-compliance. I would have stood out there with him all day as long as I could see his hands.

Pilot’s Comments
Many people take issue with the pilot’s word choice when he referred to Mr. Crutcher by saying, “he looks like a bad dude…he’s got to be on something!” As a citizen, I could understand someone taking issue with that. I can understand his family taking issue with that because they know the type of man he is the majority of the time. He did not make any reference to this man’s skin color. He did not use a racial slur. He was aware that he was flying over to assist with an individual who wasn’t compliant. He could visually see that the subject appeared to be huge. He observed the guy with his hands in the air, walking toward his vehicle and refusing to stop. He observed him doing all this with pistols pointed at him. Any officer watching that video was saying the same thing that the officer will say when her side of the story comes out, the same thing that both 911 callers stated and the same thing that I stated after watching the video and listening to the 911 call. THIS DUDE IS ON SOMETHING!

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Anonymous wrote: That’s the game changer because nobody believed blacks before and cops had decades to develop the habits of brutality that they're now getting called out for. Habits that need to be brought to an end.

Habits like total and blatant disregard for the Law and LEO's? You're RIGHT! that is a bad habit that needs to end.

Respek da Po-Po and you won't end up on a gurney.

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Are you a parody account? Because I can't take you seriously.

No, just our resident #OnlyBlackLivesMatter racist spreading the house's line.

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Anonymous wrote:22 eyewitnesses are now saying that it was not the black officer who shot that man to two people who are willing to go on camera or saying that was not the shooter

what?

I'm confused by your post.

The cop didn't shoot at him? Then who did?

She says it was the white officer.

ahh

ok

Ah
Ok
She's not the only one who says so

at this point - whatever!

too many conflicting stories

only evidence? a gun with Scott's DNA

Now whether or not he was aiming it is another story. That's why cops should de-escalate more and shoot to disable if necessary.

I would love to be given an example of how police can de-escalate a situation and shoot to disable without A) being mind readers B) putting themselves and bystanders in danger.

We've de-escalated in our alternative HS. Granted, kids had knives and not guns (unless you count a BB gun), but it's possible to talk people down. If he was high and out of his mind, then no. But you keep advocating shooting at the guy, which makes me think you're a little twisted.

No, cops aren't mind readers, but de-escalation is a "thing." You might want to educate yourself before you spout off killing someone again.

I have friends who are cops who would agree with me. One had to send supports to Ferguson during that last bout of riots. He agrees that cops should support communities and not be all gun happy. So yes, I support cops - but those who think rationally. As one who's worked with troubled kids who can eventually turn into troubled adults, there are others ways of handling some scary behavior.

I haven't kept "advocating shooting at the guy" so not sure why you are accusing me of being a "little twisted". In fact no one in the quoted thread advocated for shooting at the guy. Considering I come from a long line of military and have several LEs in my family I've got a tiny bit of education on the matter. But please correct me here and show me where I spouted off about killing someone.

You didn't say this?

I would love to be given an example of how police can de-escalate a situation and shoot to disable without A) being mind readers B) putting themselves and bystanders in danger.

If you come from a long line of military and have LEs in your family, I would think you'd know about de-escalation. There's a force continuum progression used by both military and LEs.

But I guess I'm preaching to the choir????

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Anonymous wrote:A recent study by a team of professors from U.C.L.A., Harvard, Portland State University, and Boston University analyzed suspects’ booking photographs for phenotypical signs of whiteness to test the following hypothesis: “the Whiter one appears, the more the suspect will be protected from police force.” Their findings: “police used less force with highly stereotypical Whites, and this protective effect was stronger than the effect for non-Whites.”

OK. Ban the police in Charlotte and be done with it already. Ugh.

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We've de-escalated in our alternative HS. Granted, kids had knives and not guns (unless you count a BB gun), but it's possible to talk people down. If he was high and out of his mind, then no. But you keep advocating shooting at the guy, which makes me think you're a little twisted.

No, cops aren't mind readers, but de-escalation is a "thing." You might want to educate yourself before you spout off killing someone again.

I have friends who are cops who would agree with me. One had to send supports to Ferguson during that last bout of riots. He agrees that cops should support communities and not be all gun happy. So yes, I support cops - but those who think rationally. As one who's worked with troubled kids who can eventually turn into troubled adults, there are others ways of handling some scary behavior.

I haven't kept "advocating shooting at the guy" so not sure why you are accusing me of being a "little twisted". In fact no one in the quoted thread advocated for shooting at the guy. Considering I come from a long line of military and have several LEs in my family I've got a tiny bit of education on the matter. But please correct me here and show me where I spouted off about killing someone.

You didn't say this?

I would love to be given an example of how police can de-escalate a situation and shoot to disable without A) being mind readers B) putting themselves and bystanders in danger.

If you come from a long line of military and have LEs in your family, I would think you'd know about de-escalation. There's a force continuum progression used by both military and LEs.

But I guess I'm preaching to the choir????

You can "roll your eyes" and use a mocking tone or you can discuss the matter at hand. Your choice but don't make things up.

Asking how officers can de-escalate a situation when there is a gun pointed at them is a valid question. Asking how they can shoot to wound someone with a lethal weapon and still keep themselves and bystanders safe is a valid question.

You don't want to address that though do you? You just want to be rude and dismissive.

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Anonymous wrote: That’s the game changer because nobody believed blacks before and cops had decades to develop the habits of brutality that they're now getting called out for. Habits that need to be brought to an end.

Habits like total and blatant disregard for the Law and LEO's? You're RIGHT! that is a bad habit that needs to end.

Respek da Po-Po and you won't end up on a gurney.

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We've de-escalated in our alternative HS. Granted, kids had knives and not guns (unless you count a BB gun), but it's possible to talk people down. If he was high and out of his mind, then no. But you keep advocating shooting at the guy, which makes me think you're a little twisted.

No, cops aren't mind readers, but de-escalation is a "thing." You might want to educate yourself before you spout off killing someone again.

I have friends who are cops who would agree with me. One had to send supports to Ferguson during that last bout of riots. He agrees that cops should support communities and not be all gun happy. So yes, I support cops - but those who think rationally. As one who's worked with troubled kids who can eventually turn into troubled adults, there are others ways of handling some scary behavior.

I haven't kept "advocating shooting at the guy" so not sure why you are accusing me of being a "little twisted". In fact no one in the quoted thread advocated for shooting at the guy. Considering I come from a long line of military and have several LEs in my family I've got a tiny bit of education on the matter. But please correct me here and show me where I spouted off about killing someone.

You didn't say this?

I would love to be given an example of how police can de-escalate a situation and shoot to disable without A) being mind readers B) putting themselves and bystanders in danger.

If you come from a long line of military and have LEs in your family, I would think you'd know about de-escalation. There's a force continuum progression used by both military and LEs.

But I guess I'm preaching to the choir????

You can "roll your eyes" and use a mocking tone or you can discuss the matter at hand. Your choice but don't make things up.

Asking how officers can de-escalate a situation when there is a gun pointed at them is a valid question. Asking how they can shoot to wound someone with a lethal weapon and still keep themselves and bystanders safe is a valid question.

You don't want to address that though do you? You just want to be rude and dismissive.

"Shoot to wound" sounds good, but remember.....the police were dealing with a defiant man with a gun who refused multiple commands to drop his weapon. (He was also an ex-felon with prison time for shooting someone, although I don't know if the cops had time to collect that info beforehand.) So, if you shoot him in the leg, he's still able to unload his gun. They gave him almost 40 seconds to comply - count it out, that's a long time in this situation - but the guy just refused. This SHOULD be a lesson to others to obey the police, but....

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Shoot to wound? You can't be serious. You just can't.

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This SHOULD be a lesson to others to obey the police, but....

But, they will say, he had a TBI! So, police are supposed to let him shoot them. You know, that makes all the difference. No matter that he did jail time for shooting a man (before he had the TBI). NO matter that he was rolling a joint while waiting to get his son at the bus. No matter that a school bus would soon be there and you have a man wandering around waving (or pointing, according the police) a gun. No matter that his wife was screaming for him "not to do it" whatever "it" is.........

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This SHOULD be a lesson to others to obey the police, but....

But, they will say, he had a TBI! So, police are supposed to let him shoot them. You know, that makes all the difference. No matter that he did jail time for shooting a man (before he had the TBI). NO matter that he was rolling a joint while waiting to get his son at the bus. No matter that a school bus would soon be there and you have a man wandering around waving (or pointing, according the police) a gun. No matter that his wife was screaming for him "not to do it" whatever "it" is.........

Yup. Always someone else's fault.