NYT: Men where have you gone, please come back.

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Anonymous wrote:Our society has changed a lot. Women don't need men to have a fulfilling life. And they tell men every chance they get.

+1. What can a man offers a woman that she cannot have by herself if she is financially successful?

Sex - easy (the younger she goes the easier)
Child- easy (adoption, or sperm donor/
Money, - easy(more women graduating college and quickly climbing corporate ladder)
Emotional support - other women (their friends) better suited for that
Taking care of the home and a man-child - they can easily avoid that by not marrying and they will be much happier
Longevity - I heard never married single women live longer

So what do women need men?

The same goes for men. The reason for marriage is that it is a superior format for raising children.

Most men don't get emotional support from other men, and a lot of men don't do much housechores.

Do they generate messes, dirty dishes, stinky sheets & drawers, eaten magical meals, use utilities, drive a vehicle someone else maintains, wear down house systems and appliances, etc. Etc.?

Do they proactively take care of the above for themselves or others or dependents?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Our society has changed a lot. Women don't need men to have a fulfilling life. And they tell men every chance they get.

+1. What can a man offers a woman that she cannot have by herself if she is financially successful?

Sex - easy (the younger she goes the easier)
Child- easy (adoption, or sperm donor/
Money, - easy(more women graduating college and quickly climbing corporate ladder)
Emotional support - other women (their friends) better suited for that
Taking care of the home and a man-child - they can easily avoid that by not marrying and they will be much happier
Longevity - I heard never married single women live longer

So what do women need men?

The same goes for men. The reason for marriage is that it is a superior format for raising children.

Most men don't get emotional support from other men, and a lot of men don't do much housechores.

I am a man and I agree.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Our society has changed a lot. Women don't need men to have a fulfilling life. And they tell men every chance they get.

+1. What can a man offers a woman that she cannot have by herself if she is financially successful?

Sex - easy (the younger she goes the easier)
Child- easy (adoption, or sperm donor/
Money, - easy(more women graduating college and quickly climbing corporate ladder)
Emotional support - other women (their friends) better suited for that
Taking care of the home and a man-child - they can easily avoid that by not marrying and they will be much happier
Longevity - I heard never married single women live longer

So what do women need men?

The same goes for men. The reason for marriage is that it is a superior format for raising children.

Most men don't get emotional support from other men, and a lot of men don't do much housechores.

Do they generate messes, dirty dishes, stinky sheets & drawers, eaten magical meals, use utilities, drive a vehicle someone else maintains, wear down house systems and appliances, etc. Etc.?

Do they proactively take care of the above for themselves or others or dependents?

A lot of them don't proactively clean up, no, but they do generate messes.

However, I do think having an s/o is nice for companionship. It's not quite the same as having a same sex friend, and it's not all about sex. OTH, I'd rather be alone that have a man-child. Luckily, I am not married to a man/child. I got married at 33, which is considered old in my culture back in the day (I'm in my 50s), because I didn't want to marry a man/child. I was prepared to stay single if I did not find a good catch. Luckily, I did.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The majority of young men these days are unmarriable.

Young men and young women both.

+1. My own kids included sadly. I should have done a better job on well.

Absolutely. Gen x did a terrible job with their kids

When you have terrible role models what do you expect?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Our society has changed a lot. Women don't need men to have a fulfilling life. And they tell men every chance they get.

+1. What can a man offers a woman that she cannot have by herself if she is financially successful?

Sex - easy (the younger she goes the easier)
Child- easy (adoption, or sperm donor/
Money, - easy(more women graduating college and quickly climbing corporate ladder)
Emotional support - other women (their friends) better suited for that
Taking care of the home and a man-child - they can easily avoid that by not marrying and they will be much happier
Longevity - I heard never married single women live longer

So what do women need men?

The same goes for men. The reason for marriage is that it is a superior format for raising children.

Most men don't get emotional support from other men, and a lot of men don't do much housechores.

Nor get easy sex, nor have a child, nor live longer. This pp is delulu thinking men are on the same wavelength. If they were, thre wouldn't be a male loneliness crisis.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Our society has changed a lot. Women don't need men to have a fulfilling life. And they tell men every chance they get.

+1. What can a man offers a woman that she cannot have by herself if she is financially successful?

Sex - easy (the younger she goes the easier)
Child- easy (adoption, or sperm donor/
Money, - easy(more women graduating college and quickly climbing corporate ladder)
Emotional support - other women (their friends) better suited for that
Taking care of the home and a man-child - they can easily avoid that by not marrying and they will be much happier
Longevity - I heard never married single women live longer

So what do women need men?

So you won't become a lonely shrew on a message board.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Our society has changed a lot. Women don't need men to have a fulfilling life. And they tell men every chance they get.

+1. What can a man offers a woman that she cannot have by herself if she is financially successful?

Sex - easy (the younger she goes the easier)
Child- easy (adoption, or sperm donor/
Money, - easy(more women graduating college and quickly climbing corporate ladder)
Emotional support - other women (their friends) better suited for that
Taking care of the home and a man-child - they can easily avoid that by not marrying and they will be much happier
Longevity - I heard never married single women live longer

So what do women need men?

So you won't become a lonely shrew on a message board.

A woman surrounded by her friends is not lonely.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Our society has changed a lot. Women don't need men to have a fulfilling life. And they tell men every chance they get.

+1. What can a man offers a woman that she cannot have by herself if she is financially successful?

Sex - easy (the younger she goes the easier)
Child- easy (adoption, or sperm donor/
Money, - easy(more women graduating college and quickly climbing corporate ladder)
Emotional support - other women (their friends) better suited for that
Taking care of the home and a man-child - they can easily avoid that by not marrying and they will be much happier
Longevity - I heard never married single women live longer

So what do women need men?

So you won't become a lonely shrew on a message board.

Lol. Bro, I’m married and a lonely shrew on a message board. Women are FAR less lonely when they’re not in a hetero relationship because we don’t have to give up our village to raise kids.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Our society has changed a lot. Women don't need men to have a fulfilling life. And they tell men every chance they get.

+1. What can a man offers a woman that she cannot have by herself if she is financially successful?

Sex - easy (the younger she goes the easier)
Child- easy (adoption, or sperm donor/
Money, - easy(more women graduating college and quickly climbing corporate ladder)
Emotional support - other women (their friends) better suited for that
Taking care of the home and a man-child - they can easily avoid that by not marrying and they will be much happier
Longevity - I heard never married single women live longer

So what do women need men?

So you won't become a lonely shrew on a message board.

LOL

All of the women complaining can't get decent guys because they're frumpy strivers with bad attitudes.

Women with good personalities and looks generally don't have this problem.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Our society has changed a lot. Women don't need men to have a fulfilling life. And they tell men every chance they get.

+1. What can a man offers a woman that she cannot have by herself if she is financially successful?

Sex - easy (the younger she goes the easier)
Child- easy (adoption, or sperm donor/
Money, - easy(more women graduating college and quickly climbing corporate ladder)
Emotional support - other women (their friends) better suited for that
Taking care of the home and a man-child - they can easily avoid that by not marrying and they will be much happier
Longevity - I heard never married single women live longer

So what do women need men?

The same goes for men. The reason for marriage is that it is a superior format for raising children.

Most men don't get emotional support from other men, and a lot of men don't do much housechores.

Do they generate messes, dirty dishes, stinky sheets & drawers, eaten magical meals, use utilities, drive a vehicle someone else maintains, wear down house systems and appliances, etc. Etc.?

Do they proactively take care of the above for themselves or others or dependents?

A lot of them don't proactively clean up, no, but they do generate messes.

However, I do think having an s/o is nice for companionship. It's not quite the same as having a same sex friend, and it's not all about sex. OTH, I'd rather be alone that have a man-child. Luckily, I am not married to a man/child. I got married at 33, which is considered old in my culture back in the day (I'm in my 50s), because I didn't want to marry a man/child. I was prepared to stay single if I did not find a good catch. Luckily, I did.

Did you ever have kids with your spouse?
That’s the ultimate test for who can or will grow up or not.

Many makes retreat into themselves instead of rise to the challenge of parenting and being an active home owner or family member.

[Anonymous]

* males

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Our society has changed a lot. Women don't need men to have a fulfilling life. And they tell men every chance they get.

+1. What can a man offers a woman that she cannot have by herself if she is financially successful?

Sex - easy (the younger she goes the easier)
Child- easy (adoption, or sperm donor/
Money, - easy(more women graduating college and quickly climbing corporate ladder)
Emotional support - other women (their friends) better suited for that
Taking care of the home and a man-child - they can easily avoid that by not marrying and they will be much happier
Longevity - I heard never married single women live longer

So what do women need men?

OK, I’ll bite, since my woman seems to like having me around.

Sex - I am younger than she is, plus she gets the full lovers-in-love experience vs. using a boy toy.
Child - We have plenty of grown ones between us.
Money - Her money plus my money = 2X the money.
Emotional support - my emotional support plus her women friends’ = 2X the emotional support.
Taking care of the home and a man-child - She hates to cook and shop and has a job, while I love to do both (and am retired), plus vacuuming, handyman fixing, car maintenance, running errands.
Longevity - We’re not married, but even if we were it’s hard to imagine a reduction in her lifetime caused by all of the above.

What say you?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Our society has changed a lot. Women don't need men to have a fulfilling life. And they tell men every chance they get.

+1. What can a man offers a woman that she cannot have by herself if she is financially successful?

Sex - easy (the younger she goes the easier)
Child- easy (adoption, or sperm donor/
Money, - easy(more women graduating college and quickly climbing corporate ladder)
Emotional support - other women (their friends) better suited for that
Taking care of the home and a man-child - they can easily avoid that by not marrying and they will be much happier
Longevity - I heard never married single women live longer

So what do women need men?

OK, I’ll bite, since my woman seems to like having me around.

Sex - I am younger than she is, plus she gets the full lovers-in-love experience vs. using a boy toy.
Child - We have plenty of grown ones between us.
Money - Her money plus my money = 2X the money.
Emotional support - my emotional support plus her women friends’ = 2X the emotional support.
Taking care of the home and a man-child - She hates to cook and shop and has a job, while I love to do both (and am retired), plus vacuuming, handyman fixing, car maintenance, running errands.
Longevity - We’re not married, but even if we were it’s hard to imagine a reduction in her lifetime caused by all of the above.

What say you?

I'm a dp, but you are clearly an outlier! You know that the bolded items are not common for men. Your gf is very lucky to have you! But please don't discount the fact that many men do not provide emotional support or their share of household chores.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Our society has changed a lot. Women don't need men to have a fulfilling life. And they tell men every chance they get.

+1. What can a man offers a woman that she cannot have by herself if she is financially successful?

Sex - easy (the younger she goes the easier)
Child- easy (adoption, or sperm donor/
Money, - easy(more women graduating college and quickly climbing corporate ladder)
Emotional support - other women (their friends) better suited for that
Taking care of the home and a man-child - they can easily avoid that by not marrying and they will be much happier
Longevity - I heard never married single women live longer

So what do women need men?

The same goes for men. The reason for marriage is that it is a superior format for raising children.

Most men don't get emotional support from other men, and a lot of men don't do much housechores.

Do they generate messes, dirty dishes, stinky sheets & drawers, eat magically appearing meals, use utilities, drive a vehicle someone else maintains, wear down house systems and appliances, etc. Etc.? YES

Do they proactively take care of the above for themselves or others or dependents? RARELY

Net liabilities.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Our society has changed a lot. Women don't need men to have a fulfilling life. And they tell men every chance they get.

+1. What can a man offers a woman that she cannot have by herself if she is financially successful?

Sex - easy (the younger she goes the easier)
Child- easy (adoption, or sperm donor/
Money, - easy(more women graduating college and quickly climbing corporate ladder)
Emotional support - other women (their friends) better suited for that
Taking care of the home and a man-child - they can easily avoid that by not marrying and they will be much happier
Longevity - I heard never married single women live longer

So what do women need men?

The same goes for men. The reason for marriage is that it is a superior format for raising children.

Most men don't get emotional support from other men, and a lot of men don't do much housechores.

Do they generate messes, dirty dishes, stinky sheets & drawers, eaten magical meals, use utilities, drive a vehicle someone else maintains, wear down house systems and appliances, etc. Etc.?

Do they proactively take care of the above for themselves or others or dependents?

A lot of them don't proactively clean up, no, but they do generate messes.

However, I do think having an s/o is nice for companionship. It's not quite the same as having a same sex friend, and it's not all about sex. OTH, I'd rather be alone that have a man-child. Luckily, I am not married to a man/child. I got married at 33, which is considered old in my culture back in the day (I'm in my 50s), because I didn't want to marry a man/child. I was prepared to stay single if I did not find a good catch. Luckily, I did.

Did you ever have kids with your spouse?
That’s the ultimate test for who can or will grow up or not.

Many males retreat into themselves instead of rising to the demands of parenting and being an active homeowner or family member.

Agree.

And it destroys the marriage and relationships.