Succession - Season 4

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Anonymous wrote:I 100% thought that the death was a huge hoax by Logan - that he was testing his kids to see how they would react to his death and what they would say to him in those last minutes. I fully expected him to walk into the boat and make some awful, disparaging remarks to them, after humiliating them. Glad that didn’t happen - that would have just been too cruel.

I was especially moved by both Kendall and Tom in this episode. Tom was so kind to Shiv.

The dialogue is getting weaker and weaker - so many f*cks peppering the conversation. It’s beyond old and strikes me as lazy.

I found Tom fascinating in this episode because I think he genuinely felt for Shiv in that moment, but I also think his kindness was at least 30% him realizing that with Logan dead, Shiv is his only real lifeline. Without her, he’s all the way out.

And I love how there were thematic parallels between that situation and Connor/Willa, with Connor straight up asking Willa if she was just in it fir the money and her getting very honest that the money is absolutely a big part of it for her.

I think the dialogue was very f**k heavy in this episode because everyone was in shock and didn’t know what to say, and people get kind of dumb in that situation. It’s realistic— people don’t give eloquent speeches in this situation. They can’t really process their feelings fast enough.

PP here and I agree with 99% of your post. But the f*ck issue is in every.single.episode. It's almost as if they're told to ad lib and they use constant profanity as a crutch while they think of what to say. Either that or the writers are incredibly lazy.

What if the writers aren’t lazy but the kids just aren’t that smart and they can’t think of what to say? Shiv, Roman, Tom, Greg are all pretty inarticulate and sub curse words for original thoughts. I think it’s very intentional that the writers use curse words instead of anything else.

There are some hilarious dirty insults. Incredibly witty and fast paced.

https://www.sciencealert.com/swearing-is-a-sign-of-more-intelligence-not-less-say-scientists/amp

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2021/01/26/health/swearing-benefits-wellness/index.html

I have run in some highly intellectual, extremely wealthy circles and it’s an art form.

Dolts on dcum get their panties in a twist and mistake it for being classless. It couldn’t be further from the reality.

And I loved VEEP with Selena and Dan and Amy’s profanity Abe hilarious cut downs.

Well, it can be both classless and common to the upper classes at the same time. Let's not confuse money with taste, sensitivity, or manners.

+1. One thing the show nails is how Kendall dresses obnoxiously casually all the time because he doesn't feel he has to dress up for anything. He wears sweatshirts to the office. He wore a baseball cap to his brother's rehearsal dinner, where he barely acknowledged it was a rehearsal dinner and stayed for 20 minutes. He did bother to wear a suit to the wedding itself, but no tie and didn't button his shirt all the way. Yes, I get some of these are "fashion" choices, but the point is that he feels he can simply make a personal style choice no matter the venue or occasion because he's very rich and doesn't feel he has to conform to social norms. And sure, his sweatshirts and baseball caps likely cost more than many people's wedding gowns, but that doesn't magically make them more formal or respectful to others.

People made a big deal about Shiv's ponytail at the wedding but lots of very wealthy women dress kind of terribly or have sloppy hair or clothes. Again, they might spend a lot on it, but that doesn't mean it looks that way or that they feel like they have to conform to anyone's expectations.

The swearing is the same. These are people who are used to not having to play by the rules. Sometimes they choose to be sophisticated, but they don't have to -- they can say f**k all they want, dress down, treat people poorly, etc., and unlike for the rest of us, there are no consequences. None of them is getting fired for swearing or not following a dress code. They won't lose friends over it either, because their friends are all there because of the money, too. I mean, Willa married Connor while openly admitting the money was a major reason why (and let's get real, any affection she has for him was developed after latching onto him for the money).

The poor language and bad clothes are of a piece with their overall awful behavior. The whole point of this show is that these people do not have to play by the same rules as the rest of us. People who don't understand that are like the people who rooted for Tony Soprano and Walter White. The point just whooshing right over their simple minds.

What a strange, strange post - especially your last sentences. But I get that you think you're far sharper and more clever than everyone else.
DP

What is strange about it? This is a well-known phenomenon -- people who root for the anti-heroes in shows that show them at their worst. Lots of people absolutely rooted for Tony and Walter to get away with their criminal behavior (including murder), and plenty of people root for the people on Succession to successfully get away with their own bad behavior (including stuff like Kendall getting away with killing that kid in the car crash) or chuckle at stuff like Roman's rocket exploding or all the malfeasance/abuse that occurred in Waystar's cruise business. Being able to watch these shows and not forget your ethical compass, and be able to empathize with these people without actually rooting for them to successfully kill, swindle, exploit, etc., is not a sign of being sharper or more clever, but it is a sign of having more self-awareness and not being so easily swayed by a work of fiction.

OMG.

?? What is your problem?

NP just spitballing here but probably the smug attitude exhibited in the previous post. That PP would probably scold people for admiring Robin Hood, the dirty rotten thief.

[Anonymous]

Karl: I mean could it, might it just go away? I mean it might get lost. I hope it doesn’t, but what if your hand goes a little wobbly, and a draft takes it away, and it gets flushed down a toilet by mistake? I’m kidding, of course.

Frank: Oh, sure. You’re speculating in a comic mode.

Karl: In a humorous vein. We’re not gonna let that little princess screw things up, right, Frank? Gerri’s gonna block me. I want out. I want my f*ckin’ package.
I am halfway in on a Greek island with my brother in law.

Gerri: Say, what’s up, boys?

Sounds like they’re talking about Gerri.

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Anonymous wrote:Karl: I mean could it, might it just go away? I mean it might get lost. I hope it doesn’t, but what if your hand goes a little wobbly, and a draft takes it away, and it gets flushed down a toilet by mistake? I’m kidding, of course.

Frank: Oh, sure. You’re speculating in a comic mode.

Karl: In a humorous vein. We’re not gonna let that little princess screw things up, right, Frank? Gerri’s gonna block me. I want out. I want my f*ckin’ package.
I am halfway in on a Greek island with my brother in law.

Gerri: Say, what’s up, boys?

Sounds like they’re talking about Gerri.

Gerri is hardly a princess. It was Shiv.

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Anonymous wrote:I 100% thought that the death was a huge hoax by Logan - that he was testing his kids to see how they would react to his death and what they would say to him in those last minutes. I fully expected him to walk into the boat and make some awful, disparaging remarks to them, after humiliating them. Glad that didn’t happen - that would have just been too cruel.

I was especially moved by both Kendall and Tom in this episode. Tom was so kind to Shiv.

The dialogue is getting weaker and weaker - so many f*cks peppering the conversation. It’s beyond old and strikes me as lazy.

I found Tom fascinating in this episode because I think he genuinely felt for Shiv in that moment, but I also think his kindness was at least 30% him realizing that with Logan dead, Shiv is his only real lifeline. Without her, he’s all the way out.

And I love how there were thematic parallels between that situation and Connor/Willa, with Connor straight up asking Willa if she was just in it fir the money and her getting very honest that the money is absolutely a big part of it for her.

I think the dialogue was very f**k heavy in this episode because everyone was in shock and didn’t know what to say, and people get kind of dumb in that situation. It’s realistic— people don’t give eloquent speeches in this situation. They can’t really process their feelings fast enough.

PP here and I agree with 99% of your post. But the f*ck issue is in every.single.episode. It's almost as if they're told to ad lib and they use constant profanity as a crutch while they think of what to say. Either that or the writers are incredibly lazy.

What if the writers aren’t lazy but the kids just aren’t that smart and they can’t think of what to say? Shiv, Roman, Tom, Greg are all pretty inarticulate and sub curse words for original thoughts. I think it’s very intentional that the writers use curse words instead of anything else.

There are some hilarious dirty insults. Incredibly witty and fast paced.

https://www.sciencealert.com/swearing-is-a-sign-of-more-intelligence-not-less-say-scientists/amp

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2021/01/26/health/swearing-benefits-wellness/index.html

I have run in some highly intellectual, extremely wealthy circles and it’s an art form.

Dolts on dcum get their panties in a twist and mistake it for being classless. It couldn’t be further from the reality.

And I loved VEEP with Selena and Dan and Amy’s profanity Abe hilarious cut downs.

Well, it can be both classless and common to the upper classes at the same time. Let's not confuse money with taste, sensitivity, or manners.

+1. One thing the show nails is how Kendall dresses obnoxiously casually all the time because he doesn't feel he has to dress up for anything. He wears sweatshirts to the office. He wore a baseball cap to his brother's rehearsal dinner, where he barely acknowledged it was a rehearsal dinner and stayed for 20 minutes. He did bother to wear a suit to the wedding itself, but no tie and didn't button his shirt all the way. Yes, I get some of these are "fashion" choices, but the point is that he feels he can simply make a personal style choice no matter the venue or occasion because he's very rich and doesn't feel he has to conform to social norms. And sure, his sweatshirts and baseball caps likely cost more than many people's wedding gowns, but that doesn't magically make them more formal or respectful to others.

People made a big deal about Shiv's ponytail at the wedding but lots of very wealthy women dress kind of terribly or have sloppy hair or clothes. Again, they might spend a lot on it, but that doesn't mean it looks that way or that they feel like they have to conform to anyone's expectations.

The swearing is the same. These are people who are used to not having to play by the rules. Sometimes they choose to be sophisticated, but they don't have to -- they can say f**k all they want, dress down, treat people poorly, etc., and unlike for the rest of us, there are no consequences. None of them is getting fired for swearing or not following a dress code. They won't lose friends over it either, because their friends are all there because of the money, too. I mean, Willa married Connor while openly admitting the money was a major reason why (and let's get real, any affection she has for him was developed after latching onto him for the money).

The poor language and bad clothes are of a piece with their overall awful behavior. The whole point of this show is that these people do not have to play by the same rules as the rest of us. People who don't understand that are like the people who rooted for Tony Soprano and Walter White. The point just whooshing right over their simple minds.

What a strange, strange post - especially your last sentences. But I get that you think you're far sharper and more clever than everyone else.
DP

What is strange about it? This is a well-known phenomenon -- people who root for the anti-heroes in shows that show them at their worst. Lots of people absolutely rooted for Tony and Walter to get away with their criminal behavior (including murder), and plenty of people root for the people on Succession to successfully get away with their own bad behavior (including stuff like Kendall getting away with killing that kid in the car crash) or chuckle at stuff like Roman's rocket exploding or all the malfeasance/abuse that occurred in Waystar's cruise business. Being able to watch these shows and not forget your ethical compass, and be able to empathize with these people without actually rooting for them to successfully kill, swindle, exploit, etc., is not a sign of being sharper or more clever, but it is a sign of having more self-awareness and not being so easily swayed by a work of fiction.

OMG.

?? What is your problem?

NP just spitballing here but probably the smug attitude exhibited in the previous post. That PP would probably scold people for admiring Robin Hood, the dirty rotten thief.

Wut

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Anonymous wrote:Karl: I mean could it, might it just go away? I mean it might get lost. I hope it doesn’t, but what if your hand goes a little wobbly, and a draft takes it away, and it gets flushed down a toilet by mistake? I’m kidding, of course.

Frank: Oh, sure. You’re speculating in a comic mode.

Karl: In a humorous vein. We’re not gonna let that little princess screw things up, right, Frank? Gerri’s gonna block me. I want out. I want my f*ckin’ package.
I am halfway in on a Greek island with my brother in law.

Gerri: Say, what’s up, boys?

Sounds like they’re talking about Gerri.

Gerri is hardly a princess. It was Shiv.

That doesn't make sense, though. Why would they refer to her, and not Kendall or Roman? Why single her out?

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Did anyone else notice Jamie Chung as Connor's wedding planner? I remember when she was on Real World, I think San Diego.

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Anonymous wrote:Did anyone else notice Jamie Chung as Connor's wedding planner? I remember when she was on Real World, I think San Diego.

I did not! She did look familiar. Thanks for pointing that out. I think she was recently on a cake or fake show on Netflix with her husband.

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Anonymous wrote:Why is Greg on the paper?

What pills were Roman taking off Logan’s desk towards the end in the meeting with Hugo and Karolina?

Why would Connor want his father’s apartment? This intrigues me that even though he was probably very neglected or loves by Logan he would want to buy Logan’s apartment.

Why is Willa’s mother still following Willa and Connor around?

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Because they just got married yesterday- she was in town for the wedding- remember each episode is only one day. So the wedding was yesterday afternoon and now it’s the following morning. Makes total sense for the mother of the bride to still be there! There was probably supposed to be some sort of post- wedding brunch.

The mother of the bride would tag along to a meeting about his dead father/arrangements? I cannot imagine my mother doing that. Its a weird quirk they threw in there.

She wasn't there for the meeting, she was there for the wake. There were a lot of other people there that weren't going to the board meeting.

It’s pretty normal. If I was in town and my DC’s FIL died, I’d go to the wake (and funeral, if it wasn’t explicitly private).

Yes. This. Obviously. It's so weird the things people want to harp on.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't really understand why Shiv acquiesced to the arrangement where Roman and Kendall assume "temporary" control of the company. She of all people should know that there is no way they will relinquish or share any power with her, once ensconced. Why didn't she fight this?! It makes me so mad, the way they spoke to her. I can only assume that between her father's death and her pregnancy she was so overwhelmed that she just threw up her hands. It's very unfortunate and I think she will regret this later. It's clear that she's already unhappy with it.

Just to play devil's advocate, Shiv has sort of had uniformly terrible ideas about what to do since Logan died. She wanted to keep the plane in the air until they had made a decision? Terrible. When discussing the merger with the GoJo guy she was saying things that were hitting wrong (honestly they should have just let Roman take that call, he's the best negotiator of all of them and the best reader of people). Has Shiv really been contributing in a positive way since Logan's death, besides offering sibling support? What good ideas has she had?

Kendall was right to say they needed to be careful and that their decisions would be scrutinized. Most of his ideas about getting doctors on the line etc were decent. Roman had good instincts re what to say on the phone with the GoJo guy (and what not to say, frankly). He was clever to dis-empower Gerri with the threat that her firing was coming. Roman read Tom and Greg correctly; may have been trying to get Kerri's info to have a better understanding of what Logan was thinking about him when he died and why he had asked him to do the firing. Is Roman's weakness that he still cares about people, e.g., Kerri, Gerri, not wanting to tarnish his father's name, etc, while to Kendall all these people can be decimated (and maybe that's what makes Kendall most like Logan and so maybe most likely to win)?

I don't think Shiv cares about people that much, but she is still pregnant with the child of a man she doesn't seem to love, so there's that.

Agree with all of this. Shiv isn’t very smart and has terrible instincts, which Logan saw very quickly when he had her work with him a bit. Roman has a good head for business & the most emotional intelligence, but he’s not ruthless. Kendall is clever and ruthless, but has no emotional intelligence nor discipline. They’re all seriously flawed in different ways. Per the discussion about people “rooting” for these characters, one reason I had a hard time getting interested in this show at first was that they are all awful — there are no characters worth cheering for.

Good point. Is there any moral compass type person on the show? Gerri?

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Anonymous wrote:I 100% thought that the death was a huge hoax by Logan - that he was testing his kids to see how they would react to his death and what they would say to him in those last minutes. I fully expected him to walk into the boat and make some awful, disparaging remarks to them, after humiliating them. Glad that didn’t happen - that would have just been too cruel.

I was especially moved by both Kendall and Tom in this episode. Tom was so kind to Shiv.

The dialogue is getting weaker and weaker - so many f*cks peppering the conversation. It’s beyond old and strikes me as lazy.

I found Tom fascinating in this episode because I think he genuinely felt for Shiv in that moment, but I also think his kindness was at least 30% him realizing that with Logan dead, Shiv is his only real lifeline. Without her, he’s all the way out.

And I love how there were thematic parallels between that situation and Connor/Willa, with Connor straight up asking Willa if she was just in it fir the money and her getting very honest that the money is absolutely a big part of it for her.

I think the dialogue was very f**k heavy in this episode because everyone was in shock and didn’t know what to say, and people get kind of dumb in that situation. It’s realistic— people don’t give eloquent speeches in this situation. They can’t really process their feelings fast enough.

PP here and I agree with 99% of your post. But the f*ck issue is in every.single.episode. It's almost as if they're told to ad lib and they use constant profanity as a crutch while they think of what to say. Either that or the writers are incredibly lazy.

What if the writers aren’t lazy but the kids just aren’t that smart and they can’t think of what to say? Shiv, Roman, Tom, Greg are all pretty inarticulate and sub curse words for original thoughts. I think it’s very intentional that the writers use curse words instead of anything else.

There are some hilarious dirty insults. Incredibly witty and fast paced.

https://www.sciencealert.com/swearing-is-a-sign-of-more-intelligence-not-less-say-scientists/amp

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2021/01/26/health/swearing-benefits-wellness/index.html

I have run in some highly intellectual, extremely wealthy circles and it’s an art form.

Dolts on dcum get their panties in a twist and mistake it for being classless. It couldn’t be further from the reality.

And I loved VEEP with Selena and Dan and Amy’s profanity Abe hilarious cut downs.

Well, it can be both classless and common to the upper classes at the same time. Let's not confuse money with taste, sensitivity, or manners.

+1. One thing the show nails is how Kendall dresses obnoxiously casually all the time because he doesn't feel he has to dress up for anything. He wears sweatshirts to the office. He wore a baseball cap to his brother's rehearsal dinner, where he barely acknowledged it was a rehearsal dinner and stayed for 20 minutes. He did bother to wear a suit to the wedding itself, but no tie and didn't button his shirt all the way. Yes, I get some of these are "fashion" choices, but the point is that he feels he can simply make a personal style choice no matter the venue or occasion because he's very rich and doesn't feel he has to conform to social norms. And sure, his sweatshirts and baseball caps likely cost more than many people's wedding gowns, but that doesn't magically make them more formal or respectful to others.

People made a big deal about Shiv's ponytail at the wedding but lots of very wealthy women dress kind of terribly or have sloppy hair or clothes. Again, they might spend a lot on it, but that doesn't mean it looks that way or that they feel like they have to conform to anyone's expectations.

The swearing is the same. These are people who are used to not having to play by the rules. Sometimes they choose to be sophisticated, but they don't have to -- they can say f**k all they want, dress down, treat people poorly, etc., and unlike for the rest of us, there are no consequences. None of them is getting fired for swearing or not following a dress code. They won't lose friends over it either, because their friends are all there because of the money, too. I mean, Willa married Connor while openly admitting the money was a major reason why (and let's get real, any affection she has for him was developed after latching onto him for the money).

The poor language and bad clothes are of a piece with their overall awful behavior. The whole point of this show is that these people do not have to play by the same rules as the rest of us. People who don't understand that are like the people who rooted for Tony Soprano and Walter White. The point just whooshing right over their simple minds.

What a strange, strange post - especially your last sentences. But I get that you think you're far sharper and more clever than everyone else.
DP

What is strange about it? This is a well-known phenomenon -- people who root for the anti-heroes in shows that show them at their worst. Lots of people absolutely rooted for Tony and Walter to get away with their criminal behavior (including murder), and plenty of people root for the people on Succession to successfully get away with their own bad behavior (including stuff like Kendall getting away with killing that kid in the car crash) or chuckle at stuff like Roman's rocket exploding or all the malfeasance/abuse that occurred in Waystar's cruise business. Being able to watch these shows and not forget your ethical compass, and be able to empathize with these people without actually rooting for them to successfully kill, swindle, exploit, etc., is not a sign of being sharper or more clever, but it is a sign of having more self-awareness and not being so easily swayed by a work of fiction.

OMG.

?? What is your problem?

NP just spitballing here but probably the smug attitude exhibited in the previous post. That PP would probably scold people for admiring Robin Hood, the dirty rotten thief.

Uuuuh, rooting for the Roy family is not akin to rooting for Robin Hood (well Ewan might be kind of, but notice he only intends to give his money to Greenpeace after he dies). It actually does sound to me like your moral compass is broken here. Might be why you were so triggered by the prior comments.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't really understand why Shiv acquiesced to the arrangement where Roman and Kendall assume "temporary" control of the company. She of all people should know that there is no way they will relinquish or share any power with her, once ensconced. Why didn't she fight this?! It makes me so mad, the way they spoke to her. I can only assume that between her father's death and her pregnancy she was so overwhelmed that she just threw up her hands. It's very unfortunate and I think she will regret this later. It's clear that she's already unhappy with it.

Just to play devil's advocate, Shiv has sort of had uniformly terrible ideas about what to do since Logan died. She wanted to keep the plane in the air until they had made a decision? Terrible. When discussing the merger with the GoJo guy she was saying things that were hitting wrong (honestly they should have just let Roman take that call, he's the best negotiator of all of them and the best reader of people). Has Shiv really been contributing in a positive way since Logan's death, besides offering sibling support? What good ideas has she had?

Kendall was right to say they needed to be careful and that their decisions would be scrutinized. Most of his ideas about getting doctors on the line etc were decent. Roman had good instincts re what to say on the phone with the GoJo guy (and what not to say, frankly). He was clever to dis-empower Gerri with the threat that her firing was coming. Roman read Tom and Greg correctly; may have been trying to get Kerri's info to have a better understanding of what Logan was thinking about him when he died and why he had asked him to do the firing. Is Roman's weakness that he still cares about people, e.g., Kerri, Gerri, not wanting to tarnish his father's name, etc, while to Kendall all these people can be decimated (and maybe that's what makes Kendall most like Logan and so maybe most likely to win)?

I don't think Shiv cares about people that much, but she is still pregnant with the child of a man she doesn't seem to love, so there's that.

Agree with all of this. Shiv isn’t very smart and has terrible instincts, which Logan saw very quickly when he had her work with him a bit. Roman has a good head for business & the most emotional intelligence, but he’s not ruthless. Kendall is clever and ruthless, but has no emotional intelligence nor discipline. They’re all seriously flawed in different ways. Per the discussion about people “rooting” for these characters, one reason I had a hard time getting interested in this show at first was that they are all awful — there are no characters worth cheering for.

Good point. Is there any moral compass type person on the show? Gerri?

No! Gerri is in it for herself too. That's the whole point of the show.

Many peopel on the show can display kindness in micro. The kids are sometimes kind and supportive of each other. Shiv was appropriately grossed out by the neo-Nazi vibe at that Republican conference they went to last year. Roman has recently expressed empathy for Connor and for Kerry. Kendall sometimes seems to care about his ex-wife and kids. Gerri seems to care for Roman. Frank seems to genuinely care for Kendall. Tom seems to care for Shiv and Shiv seems to sometimes appreciate Tom. And so one.

But at the end of the day, they are all out for themselves. Why? High school English, folks -- power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely. Logan was 100% corrupted by his money and power, and whoever succeeds him faces the same fate. Sure, they are human and show signs of humanity. But if that's what they valued, they'd simply take the money they already have and go live a very wonderful life somewhere else. Everyone still fighting for the Big Prize is corrupted.

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Anonymous wrote:Shiv’s name (Princess) was erased in the addendum. I wonder if she will find that out…perhaps someone in the old guard turns on K&R.

Where did you see that? I do think I recall them saying princess but can’t remember exactly how

When the first had the paper I think Geri and not sure if Frank or Carl. My sister missed it too---but my husband and I immediately heard them talk about the pencil in and referred to 'not Princess' no way or something like that. I took that to be Shiv since she was the only daughter and the 'workers' viewed her as a princess entitled.

I took “Princess” to mean Kendall? Although eventually they went with him so I don’t know. I’m not sure they could have erased another name that well, right?

His name was DEFINITELY crossed out, not underlined and he blew the document up on his cell phone and u can tell he knows that too.

Agreed.

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Anonymous wrote:Karl: I mean could it, might it just go away? I mean it might get lost. I hope it doesn’t, but what if your hand goes a little wobbly, and a draft takes it away, and it gets flushed down a toilet by mistake? I’m kidding, of course.

Frank: Oh, sure. You’re speculating in a comic mode.

Karl: In a humorous vein. We’re not gonna let that little princess screw things up, right, Frank? Gerri’s gonna block me. I want out. I want my f*ckin’ package.
I am halfway in on a Greek island with my brother in law.

Gerri: Say, what’s up, boys?

Sounds like they’re talking about Gerri.

Gerri is hardly a princess. It was Shiv.

That doesn't make sense, though. Why would they refer to her, and not Kendall or Roman? Why single her out?

Because she royally messed things up prior. And she was a major beatch to everyone when she got a taste of power. She wasn't business smart.

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Anonymous wrote:Did anyone else notice Jamie Chung as Connor's wedding planner? I remember when she was on Real World, I think San Diego.

I did not! She did look familiar. Thanks for pointing that out. I think she was recently on a cake or fake show on Netflix with her husband.

I did and I felt bad for her. She was barely more than an extra, although paid more I think because she had lines. She was in Hangover and some other things after RW, wasn’t she?

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Anonymous wrote:Karl: I mean could it, might it just go away? I mean it might get lost. I hope it doesn’t, but what if your hand goes a little wobbly, and a draft takes it away, and it gets flushed down a toilet by mistake? I’m kidding, of course.

Frank: Oh, sure. You’re speculating in a comic mode.

Karl: In a humorous vein. We’re not gonna let that little princess screw things up, right, Frank? Gerri’s gonna block me. I want out. I want my f*ckin’ package.
I am halfway in on a Greek island with my brother in law.

Gerri: Say, what’s up, boys?

Sounds like they’re talking about Gerri.

I was mystified when I watched this, and still not at all clear!