Insurrection Hearings 6/9-6/23

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wow, they have the Republican Speaker of the Arizona House testifying against Trump.

This is brutal for Trump.

Rusty Bowers (Rep) Arizona House Speaker said there were multiple Republicans and counsel during calls with Giuliani, Ellis, Eastman.

It all went down like this.
Bowers to Giuliani: You’re asking me to go against my constitutional oath? Do you have sufficient evidence or proof? Do you have names?
Giuliani passes the question to Jenna Ellis (Trump’s legal team): Ellis confirms there is evidence.
Bowers to Ellis: Do you have evidence and names with you now to present to us?
Ellis to Bowers: No
Giuliani interjects: We have theories to substantiate evidence of fraud.
Bowers to Giuliani: And you want me to violate my oath without proof?
Giuliani to Bowers: What I’m suggesting is that Arizona law allows you to go into session to take care of it.
Bowers to Giuliani: I cannot legally do that. I cannot unilaterally call a session solely on my prerogative.
Late December 2021 Trump calls Bowers a 2nd time
Bowers to Trump: I supported you. I voted for you. But I will not do anything illegal for you.
John Easton calls Bowers a few days later suggesting they take a vote to decertify the electors because Bowser had justification and plenary authority to do so according to Article II, Section I, Clause II.
Bowers to Easton: Again, I took an oath and that would be counter to my oath. What would you have me do?
Easton to Bowers: The authority of the legislature is plenary. You can do it. Let the court sort it out.
Bowers explains to the committee that he can’t call the legislature into session without a 2/3 majority vote. We’re only a 30+1 vote. There’s no way that can happen.
Bowers to Easton: You’re asking me to do something that has never been done in the history of the United States, and I’m going to put my state through that without sufficient proof? To the state that I swore to uphold the constitution and law? No sir, I will not do that.

Previously undisclosed video: On January 6th, QAnon Shaman, Jacob Chansley, led protesters
to the Arizona House of Representatives and illegally entered the building. Proud Boys entered the building while armed men remained outside the entrance (unclear if they were PB or armed security). They called for Speaker Bowers by name. Chansley has been sentenced to 41 months in prison for obstruction of an official proceeding.

You have to put this through the Fox News double speak machine. Bowsers is running a pedophile ring and trump is fighting the deep state! Did you know black people were rioting in the street because they hate white people! After all white people have done for those people! What a great service New Fox is doing! Said by a blonde woman in a tight dress and high heels talking head.

[Anonymous]

This is why I am no longer Republican and will never vote for another one again. They are no longer the party of "truth, justice, and the American way."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Was talking to a friend who worried that we were becoming like Argentina in the 1970s when the right wing terrified the populace about the alleged evils of the left---unchecked, it became the right wing who started making dissenters "disappear". These hearings are demonstrating that there are an awful lot of GOPers with that exact mindset. And I hate left-wing authoritarianism just as much. We need robust political parties who will negotiate and compromise with each other---not a zero-sum rush to authoritarianism by trying to subvert election results. I was so proud of this country during Bush v. Gore, when we decided as a country to have the process sorted and to abide by the results. What Trump did was incredibly destructive to our 200+ years of peacefully transferring power. He needs to be held accountable.

George W. Bush and other preiminent Republicans should denounce Trump as well as present House and Senate GOPers for their lack of leadership. Schumer isn't great but he is soich better than McConnell &Co.

[Anonymous]

They should.

But they won't.

It is a cult.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Was talking to a friend who worried that we were becoming like Argentina in the 1970s when the right wing terrified the populace about the alleged evils of the left---unchecked, it became the right wing who started making dissenters "disappear". These hearings are demonstrating that there are an awful lot of GOPers with that exact mindset. And I hate left-wing authoritarianism just as much. We need robust political parties who will negotiate and compromise with each other---not a zero-sum rush to authoritarianism by trying to subvert election results. I was so proud of this country during Bush v. Gore, when we decided as a country to have the process sorted and to abide by the results. What Trump did was incredibly destructive to our 200+ years of peacefully transferring power. He needs to be held accountable.

George W. Bush and other preiminent Republicans should denounce Trump as well as present House and Senate GOPers for their lack of leadership. Schumer isn't great but he is soich better than McConnell &Co.

Yeah George Bush is not a preeminent republicans any more…Tucker and Hannity are.

[Anonymous]

No one cares outside the beltway

When will dems understand to focus on issues that matter?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:No one cares outside the beltway

When will dems understand to focus on issues that matter?

I’m well outside the beltway and I can assure you, sedition matters very, very much.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:No one cares outside the beltway

When will dems understand to focus on issues that matter?

Keep posting about how much you don’t care.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No one cares outside the beltway

When will dems understand to focus on issues that matter?

My sweet summer child, it must be hard to face the truth about your feckless leader.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No one cares outside the beltway

When will dems understand to focus on issues that matter?

I’m well outside the beltway and I can assure you, sedition matters very, very much.

Yes. I think many Americans beyond the beltway care. The committee has actually done a really good job in making these hearings accessible and pontification-free. None of today’s witnesses sounded remotely beltway-ish. E.g., Bowers talking about how sacred the constitution is. So, very compelling for that reason alone.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Was talking to a friend who worried that we were becoming like Argentina in the 1970s when the right wing terrified the populace about the alleged evils of the left---unchecked, it became the right wing who started making dissenters "disappear". These hearings are demonstrating that there are an awful lot of GOPers with that exact mindset. And I hate left-wing authoritarianism just as much. We need robust political parties who will negotiate and compromise with each other---not a zero-sum rush to authoritarianism by trying to subvert election results. I was so proud of this country during Bush v. Gore, when we decided as a country to have the process sorted and to abide by the results. What Trump did was incredibly destructive to our 200+ years of peacefully transferring power. He needs to be held accountable.

While I’m not happy with what is going on, DH lived in Argentina during the 70s and no it’s not that bad.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This testimony from the electoral workers is appalling. Unacceptable that they should be threatened in that way. Can you imagine having the fbi show up at your door and saying you had to leave??

Shaye's adoration for her mom and grandmother is the best part of this whole hearing. I love how much she loves, admires, and looks up to them.

Just infurating that Trump + Giuliani personally ruined these poor black women's lives. Makes me ill to know that white people still act like this, and I am white.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This testimony from the electoral workers is appalling. Unacceptable that they should be threatened in that way. Can you imagine having the fbi show up at your door and saying you had to leave??

Shaye's adoration for her mom and grandmother is the best part of this whole hearing. I love how much she loves, admires, and looks up to them.

Just infurating that Trump + Giuliani personally ruined these poor black women's lives. Makes me ill to know that white people still act like this, and I am white.

I can’t believe more people aren’t upset about this! Donald Trump should truly be ashamed, his whole family should be ashamed. This is just disgusting 🤮 on so many levels.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wow, they have the Republican Speaker of the Arizona House testifying against Trump.

This is brutal for Trump.

Rusty Bowers (Rep) Arizona House Speaker said there were multiple Republicans and counsel during calls with Giuliani, Ellis, Eastman.

It all went down like this.
Bowers to Giuliani: You’re asking me to go against my constitutional oath? Do you have sufficient evidence or proof? Do you have names?
Giuliani passes the question to Jenna Ellis (Trump’s legal team): Ellis confirms there is evidence.
Bowers to Ellis: Do you have evidence and names with you now to present to us?
Ellis to Bowers: No
Giuliani interjects: We have theories to substantiate evidence of fraud.
Bowers to Giuliani: And you want me to violate my oath without proof?
Giuliani to Bowers: What I’m suggesting is that Arizona law allows you to go into session to take care of it.
Bowers to Giuliani: I cannot legally do that. I cannot unilaterally call a session solely on my prerogative.
Late December 2021 Trump calls Bowers a 2nd time
Bowers to Trump: I supported you. I voted for you. But I will not do anything illegal for you.
John Easton calls Bowers a few days later suggesting they take a vote to decertify the electors because Bowser had justification and plenary authority to do so according to Article II, Section I, Clause II.
Bowers to Easton: Again, I took an oath and that would be counter to my oath. What would you have me do?
Easton to Bowers: The authority of the legislature is plenary. You can do it. Let the court sort it out.
Bowers explains to the committee that he can’t call the legislature into session without a 2/3 majority vote. We’re only a 30+1 vote. There’s no way that can happen.
Bowers to Easton: You’re asking me to do something that has never been done in the history of the United States, and I’m going to put my state through that without sufficient proof? To the state that I swore to uphold the constitution and law? No sir, I will not do that.

Previously undisclosed video: On January 6th, QAnon Shaman, Jacob Chansley, led protesters
to the Arizona House of Representatives and illegally entered the building. Proud Boys entered the building while armed men remained outside the entrance (unclear if they were PB or armed security). They called for Speaker Bowers by name. Chansley has been sentenced to 41 months in prison for obstruction of an official proceeding.

You have to put this through the Fox News double speak machine. Bowsers is running a pedophile ring and trump is fighting the deep state! Did you know black people were rioting in the street because they hate white people! After all white people have done for those people! What a great service New Fox is doing! Said by a blonde woman in a tight dress and high heels talking head.

Bowers addressed it when he was asked about the threats he and his family endured. His daughter was very ill at the time, and she was terrified. They were harassed and threatened his neighbors, one of them pointed a gun at one neighbor and Bowers stood between them. They ran smear campaign that he was part of a pedo ring. Why aren’t these people rounded up and charged for domestic terrorism? Ms. Moss and Ms. Freeman should sue Giuliani and Trump.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This testimony from the electoral workers is appalling. Unacceptable that they should be threatened in that way. Can you imagine having the fbi show up at your door and saying you had to leave??

Shaye's adoration for her mom and grandmother is the best part of this whole hearing. I love how much she loves, admires, and looks up to them.

Just infurating that Trump + Giuliani personally ruined these poor black women's lives. Makes me ill to know that white people still act like this, and I am white.

I can’t believe more people aren’t upset about this! Donald Trump should truly be ashamed, his whole family should be ashamed. This is just disgusting 🤮 on so many levels.

Agree!