Ukrainian victory over Russia is inevitable

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That’s little fan fare? Special jet streams and thick army platoons lining the road while honoring him with cannon salutes and triumphant local Music as he passed in his state limo?

Appalling they have him this much fanfare.

He should be extradited to face trial for war crimes in Ukraine, Syria and Gaza.
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People better vote Democrat if they want to keep proxy wars going all over the globe!
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So Ukraine isn’t with securing our border?

Just as I suspected. What a lie we’ve been fed by the swamp .
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Ugh just when I thought this thread had been relegated to page two, the paid bots return

#barf
Anonymous
It sounds like, at least on the Senate side, a deal is being worked on that deals with the US Southern Border and Ukraine. I hope the House is willing to stay to get it through.
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Anonymous wrote:So Ukraine isn’t with securing our border?

Just as I suspected. What a lie we’ve been fed by the swamp .


So Russia isn't with maintaining world order?

Just as I suspected. What a lie we've been fed by the chump .

“We are now fighting for the freedom of not only Russia, but the whole world,” Putin said in a speech to participants of a meeting organized by the Russian Orthodox Church.
https://apnews.com/article/russia-putin-speech-ukraine-world-order-747d4cb0b899cf5c76f2f5ae80df376c
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"14% of Russians were living in or on the brink of poverty"
https://www.businessinsider.com/russia-economy-real-situation-economist-ukraine-war-sanctions-growth-inflation-2023-11

“If we talk in percentage terms, then, probably, (prices) increased by 25%. This is meat, staple products — dairy produce, fruits, vegetables, sausages. My husband can’t live without sausage! Sometimes I’m just amazed at price spikes,”
https://apnews.com/article/russia-economy-inflation-food-shopping-515a5dfec7ea4f71adb1aa5dc5674bfc

"formerly senior vice president of Russia's largest financial institution, Sberbank, died at age 42 due to what the company described in a statement as a heart attack. The death was described as "untimely."
"senior vice president, head of the B2C Customer Experience Development block of Sberbank, suddenly passed away,""
"had overseen Sberbank's private clients and properties for the preceding 12 years"
"the bank has reportedly faced a hard financial stretch since Putin's invasion, causing an estimated 90 percent drop in profits"
https://www.newsweek.com/russian-banking-exec-suddenly-dies-after-losing-90-percent-profits-1847700
Anonymous
To be clear, when we are talking about the US spending money "on Ukraine"...





So the real question is, why wouldn't the US spend money that both bolsters the US businesses while also helping a key ally in a struggle for freedom?
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Anonymous wrote:So Ukraine isn’t with securing our border?

Just as I suspected. What a lie we’ve been fed by the swamp .


That’s all the Trump Swamp does - lie, manipulate, cheat and steal while stirring up culture war smoke screens to hide behind …

No wonder Putin loves his American protege …
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Anonymous wrote:There is no doubt Ukrainians have suffered enormous casualties. Maybe not as bad as Russians, who are losing almost a 1000 a day in places like Avdiivka.



This is a serious war. Saw a report that indicates that Russians have less than a 4 percent chance of surviving a year on the front. I'm sure it's similar for Ukrainian soldiers.


Speaking of BS...

Russia would have had to have lost their entire army almost twice over for your 4 percent figure to be even remotely possible. Given what we can guess about Russian force size and casualties, its probably more like a 4 percent chance of dying since the start of the SMO.

If you want to see Russian casualties, you can just look here: https://en.zona.media/article/2022/05/20/casualties_eng

There was an uptick in October when Russia started pushing on Avdeevka, but it wasn't even 1,000 for the month on all fronts combined.

And surely you must realize that if Russia was losing 1,000 a day there, then they wouldn't be winning that battle.


That's completely false. UK and other intelligence services have independently confirmed a high in daily numbers of Russian casualties near 1000 at Avdiivka. Only 1000 troops lost in Russia in a month is absolute laughable delusion.


Mediazona's info is solely based on info released by or confirmed by Russian government sources. They are greatly undercounting deaths.


They use publicly available documents. When someone dies in this day and age, it creates a paper trail. Mediazona has the names, ranks, date of death and other information. Who do you think they are missing? Can you name an individual you think died but isn't listed? Do you think they are systematically missing people from certain regions, or population groups? Where are the bodies?

Intel agency data is in the "trust me bro" tier. Where do their numbers come from, and what data corroborates their counts? Do you know their methodology? Intelligence agencies produce reports they find useful, not necessarily truthful.



That website states that it is an undercount and “The actual death toll is likely significantly higher. ”

Note that Russia also has a lot of PMC’s, prisoners, and other irregular troops that are not counted. Not to mention militias from the Donbas that are not counted.


Prigozhin said he lost 20k troops just in Bakhmut.



Russia is losing roughly 15,000-20,000 soldiers per month in Ukraine. More lately because of how awful the fighting is in Adviika. Most are mobiks from the hinterlands. The smart ones in Moscow and St. Petersburg all left at the start of the war. There are now huge Russian populations in Indonesia and Turkey.

Technically, Russia can absorb these losses of men. It's a big country. It's their equipment losses that are a problem. Thousands of tanks, not to mention all the armored personnel carriers, artillery etc.

This is a really grim war. You can go to twitter or telegram or reddit and see it all. It's horrible.

I think Ukrainians understand this is going to be a long war. And so they are in soldier preservation mode. They are on defense. Would not expect a major offensive from Ukrainians in the foreseeable future. They're just trying to survive. Ukraine has 44 million people. Russia has 143 million people

We've reached the point where life preservation for Ukrainian soldiers has become pretty important. Russians don't care at all.


Huge numbers of Russian soldiers died at Bakhmut, at Vuhledar, at Avdiivka and many other places. Russia is wasting its future on a war that is causing it massive attrition - even as Russia heads into a crisis of population collapse.


Any estimates that can't address the questions of "what were their names?" and "where are their bodies?" is probably a hoax to some degree.

The people claiming big numbers of Russian dead have a problem with the bodies. Early in the war Ukrainian propaganda at least was talking about mobile crematoriums. Then it devolved into "meat cubes," now they are too lazy to even attempt to solve the body problem. They just act like Russians come out of some cloning lab and despawn when hit.


There's no "body problem" in the narrative. Every single day there are brand new videos coming out showing battlefields and trenches littered with dozens of Russian corpses, just abandoned and left behind to decay and literally fulfil the metaphor of becoming fertilizer for sunflowers. Putin does not care enough about their names to have their bodies recovered and given a proper funeral. And their families back home in Ingushetia or wherever else will just be lied to, told they are still at the front fighting, or ran away and went awol, or maybe if their disappearance drags on long enough, the government will eventually give them a loaf of bread for their troubles. That's just the fact of what's been going on.


So Russia is losing a thousand guys a day in Avdeevka alone, and just leaving the bodies there? And this has been going on for two months? Shouldn't this leave absolute mountains of bodies? Surely you guys have pictures of these mountains right?


You mean under the snow? Pfft. You'll have to wait until April.
https://apnews.com/article/russia-heavy-snow-flight-roads-disruption-33b2acb1c11272aa18ec88aa92edbdeb

Good news for Ukraine, though. A lot tougher to re-supply the Russian military from Moscow right now.

"About 135,000 people and 18,000 pieces of equipment were involved in the snow-clearing effort. Nearly 200 trucks got stuck in the snow over the past 24 hours"


Snow can be cleared a lot quicker than blockading trucks along the Polish border. I know which problem I would rather have. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/dec/05/ukrainian-lorry-drivers-facing-polish-blockades-medyka


I don't get what these Polish truckers' beef is. Unless they are willing to haul the same route under the same conditions and same pay (like being forced to sit in your truck for days at end in freezing cold weather for no good reason other than some other dumb trucker throwing a tantrum) and bring supplies into Ukraine where they might face Russian missile attacks, they should shut up and mind their own business.


You have to give Ukrainians credit for inventiveness. I just saw a video of Ukrainian trucks (cab and trailer combined) getting shipped over the border by rail.
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Anonymous wrote:So Ukraine isn’t with securing our border?

Just as I suspected. What a lie we’ve been fed by the swamp .


That’s all the Trump Swamp does - lie, manipulate, cheat and steal while stirring up culture war smoke screens to hide behind …

No wonder Putin loves his American protege …


Yeah right .

No such things as ufo’s for 70 years lie

WMD in Iraq lie

Obama Admin didn’t wiretap an opposition campaign lie.

Russian Collusion lie

Covid from a bat lie

Hunter laptop fake lie.

Trump should win a Pulitzer for reporting the most important news of the century correctly .
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Anonymous wrote:To be clear, when we are talking about the US spending money "on Ukraine"...





So the real question is, why wouldn't the US spend money that both bolsters the US businesses while also helping a key ally in a struggle for freedom?


Because we take taxpayer's money and give it to private individuals/enthities in US. It is not bolstering US businesses, it is money laundering.
Anonymous
Putin's price hike is hurting Americans. We must continue to resist.
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Anonymous wrote:Putin's price hike is hurting Americans. We must continue to resist.


Resist by electing Trump.

Our leaders are mental midgets
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