ECNL moving to school year part 2

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Anonymous wrote:As the oldest, August players have the highest chance to play in college under SY.

Except for any Aug players forced to play up because of grade. Then, they become the youngest. So stupid of an idea.

Not even close to the dumb idea of playing down a grade and thinking that college coaches wont notice.

The truth is being misaligned will make it harder just like it'll be harder if you are forced to play up. Both would be an extra hurdle to overcome. Not impossible in either case for the talented/hardest working but it would stymie many others in either situation. Interestingly, with how it's shaking out, we'll have clubs some clubs that go with grade and the oldest and others who make it case-by-case.

Correct being misaligned will make college recruiting much harder. To address there are two options. Play up with your grade or get held back a year in school. Either way you'll align grade in school with level played in club. Most rational people in this situation will choose to play on the correct grade team.

Why go through all the challenges of being an oddball. Just play your kid on a correct grade team from a young age. When it matters they'll be used to playing at the grade level college coaches are looking for.

That doesn't mean you always need to play with your grade though. Especially for girls when they are 14 or 15 they can realign to play with their grade. They will be done growing at that point and the RAE effect is much much less than it is when they are Ulittle ages.

Thats a lot of extra effort just to use rae to justify playing on a grade down on an A team. You dont think these type of players wont piss off correct grade parents? You dont think these type of players wont become a problem for 8th grade teams when they're playing HS soccer for 3 months during the season? You think correct grade teams will welcome a less developed player from a lower grade team?

Switching teams isn't extra effort, it is often what is required as kids get older to put them in position to play in college regardless of being misaligned or not. Others parents are always pissed, nobody cares, welcome to travel. If you are positioning you kid to keep other parent happy, you are parenting wrong. Players aren't welcomed to new teams, they just show up. Thinking a team is some kind of democracy is your problem, it doesn't work that way.

You are completely selfish and wrong. Coaches / Clubs will filter out parents like you after a couple of seasons. Seen it happen multiple times. Unless your kid is a unicorn which I doubt is the case since all you want to do is play down.

These parents aren't filtered out. They club hop and if they're kid is good enough, they've got them on the top MLSN/GA/ECNL teams. Those clubs cater to these parents, BTW, because they all are ruthless and play to win. By recruiting the best players and winning the most, they keep their college pipelines strong as well as the reputation.

I have seen the club hoppers come all the time. Clubs welcome them with open arms and have no problem pushing all the other kids on the team down a peg. You what the parents say? Nothing, because they know that's how sports works from rec to national teams.

Nope, every club hopper I've ever seen burns bridges everywhere they go. Over time they run out of clubs to play for and end up on the oddball loser team. Seen it hapoen multiple times. Add in that you dont think the rules apply to your kid and that you literally want to play down and its not going to be a happy ending. People see through you and college coachs will discount players playing down a grade. You're not going to sneak playing down a grade past them.

Who said anything about playing down? This is an attitude and a culture where aggressiveness both by the player and parent is rewarded by the top clubs. The kid has to be good, tho.

Its because in general players who's parents are looking to play down arent very good. If they were good playing up would be no problem. They're looking to play down because they can't compete with players their own grade.

Being the youngest isn't always easy. The new soccer rules will allow them a chance to be the oldest.

But Aug birthdays are still the same grade in school nothing changes. In a college coaches eyes you're just a weird sophmore thats playing at the freshman level.

College coaches take weird all the time. And don't care about your age group, said Eastside. Many value being different.

Top D1 colleges offering full rides do not take weird.

D3 expensive 90k per year private colleges take weird all day long.

Weird is your construct. It assumes there is some best path when there isn't, merely best player fits.

If D1s take foreign players then they take weird all day long.

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Anonymous wrote:As the oldest, August players have the highest chance to play in college under SY.

Except for any Aug players forced to play up because of grade. Then, they become the youngest. So stupid of an idea.

Not even close to the dumb idea of playing down a grade and thinking that college coaches wont notice.

The truth is being misaligned will make it harder just like it'll be harder if you are forced to play up. Both would be an extra hurdle to overcome. Not impossible in either case for the talented/hardest working but it would stymie many others in either situation. Interestingly, with how it's shaking out, we'll have clubs some clubs that go with grade and the oldest and others who make it case-by-case.

Correct being misaligned will make college recruiting much harder. To address there are two options. Play up with your grade or get held back a year in school. Either way you'll align grade in school with level played in club. Most rational people in this situation will choose to play on the correct grade team.

Why go through all the challenges of being an oddball. Just play your kid on a correct grade team from a young age. When it matters they'll be used to playing at the grade level college coaches are looking for.

That doesn't mean you always need to play with your grade though. Especially for girls when they are 14 or 15 they can realign to play with their grade. They will be done growing at that point and the RAE effect is much much less than it is when they are Ulittle ages.

Thats a lot of extra effort just to use rae to justify playing on a grade down on an A team. You dont think these type of players wont piss off correct grade parents? You dont think these type of players wont become a problem for 8th grade teams when they're playing HS soccer for 3 months during the season? You think correct grade teams will welcome a less developed player from a lower grade team?

Switching teams isn't extra effort, it is often what is required as kids get older to put them in position to play in college regardless of being misaligned or not. Others parents are always pissed, nobody cares, welcome to travel. If you are positioning you kid to keep other parent happy, you are parenting wrong. Players aren't welcomed to new teams, they just show up. Thinking a team is some kind of democracy is your problem, it doesn't work that way.

You are completely selfish and wrong. Coaches / Clubs will filter out parents like you after a couple of seasons. Seen it happen multiple times. Unless your kid is a unicorn which I doubt is the case since all you want to do is play down.

These parents aren't filtered out. They club hop and if they're kid is good enough, they've got them on the top MLSN/GA/ECNL teams. Those clubs cater to these parents, BTW, because they all are ruthless and play to win. By recruiting the best players and winning the most, they keep their college pipelines strong as well as the reputation.

I have seen the club hoppers come all the time. Clubs welcome them with open arms and have no problem pushing all the other kids on the team down a peg. You what the parents say? Nothing, because they know that's how sports works from rec to national teams.

Nope, every club hopper I've ever seen burns bridges everywhere they go. Over time they run out of clubs to play for and end up on the oddball loser team. Seen it hapoen multiple times. Add in that you dont think the rules apply to your kid and that you literally want to play down and its not going to be a happy ending. People see through you and college coachs will discount players playing down a grade. You're not going to sneak playing down a grade past them.

Who said anything about playing down? This is an attitude and a culture where aggressiveness both by the player and parent is rewarded by the top clubs. The kid has to be good, tho.

Its because in general players who's parents are looking to play down arent very good. If they were good playing up would be no problem. They're looking to play down because they can't compete with players their own grade.

Being the youngest isn't always easy. The new soccer rules will allow them a chance to be the oldest.

Making the conscious choice to be the youngest at a big soccer club would be a huge, unnecessary risk.

I agree its a tough call.

The sooner Aug players get used to playing up with their correct grade the better off they'll be when it comes time for college recruiting.

Or hold them back in school and align the level they're playing in club with their grade in school that way.

Eastside and college coaches said misaligned doesn't matter. But switching age groups or teams beyond say age 14 isn't that big of a deal and rosters at the better teams flip over so much anyway.

Whats crazy is you just strait lie.

When you talk about rae one of your justifications is that older players get on teams first and therefore younger players cant get onto them.

Then you completely jump over that statement and say that switching teams when youre older is no big deal.

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Anonymous wrote:As the oldest, August players have the highest chance to play in college under SY.

Except for any Aug players forced to play up because of grade. Then, they become the youngest. So stupid of an idea.

Not even close to the dumb idea of playing down a grade and thinking that college coaches wont notice.

The truth is being misaligned will make it harder just like it'll be harder if you are forced to play up. Both would be an extra hurdle to overcome. Not impossible in either case for the talented/hardest working but it would stymie many others in either situation. Interestingly, with how it's shaking out, we'll have clubs some clubs that go with grade and the oldest and others who make it case-by-case.

Correct being misaligned will make college recruiting much harder. To address there are two options. Play up with your grade or get held back a year in school. Either way you'll align grade in school with level played in club. Most rational people in this situation will choose to play on the correct grade team.

Why go through all the challenges of being an oddball. Just play your kid on a correct grade team from a young age. When it matters they'll be used to playing at the grade level college coaches are looking for.

That doesn't mean you always need to play with your grade though. Especially for girls when they are 14 or 15 they can realign to play with their grade. They will be done growing at that point and the RAE effect is much much less than it is when they are Ulittle ages.

Thats a lot of extra effort just to use rae to justify playing on a grade down on an A team. You dont think these type of players wont piss off correct grade parents? You dont think these type of players wont become a problem for 8th grade teams when they're playing HS soccer for 3 months during the season? You think correct grade teams will welcome a less developed player from a lower grade team?

Switching teams isn't extra effort, it is often what is required as kids get older to put them in position to play in college regardless of being misaligned or not. Others parents are always pissed, nobody cares, welcome to travel. If you are positioning you kid to keep other parent happy, you are parenting wrong. Players aren't welcomed to new teams, they just show up. Thinking a team is some kind of democracy is your problem, it doesn't work that way.

You are completely selfish and wrong. Coaches / Clubs will filter out parents like you after a couple of seasons. Seen it happen multiple times. Unless your kid is a unicorn which I doubt is the case since all you want to do is play down.

These parents aren't filtered out. They club hop and if they're kid is good enough, they've got them on the top MLSN/GA/ECNL teams. Those clubs cater to these parents, BTW, because they all are ruthless and play to win. By recruiting the best players and winning the most, they keep their college pipelines strong as well as the reputation.

I have seen the club hoppers come all the time. Clubs welcome them with open arms and have no problem pushing all the other kids on the team down a peg. You what the parents say? Nothing, because they know that's how sports works from rec to national teams.

Nope, every club hopper I've ever seen burns bridges everywhere they go. Over time they run out of clubs to play for and end up on the oddball loser team. Seen it hapoen multiple times. Add in that you dont think the rules apply to your kid and that you literally want to play down and its not going to be a happy ending. People see through you and college coachs will discount players playing down a grade. You're not going to sneak playing down a grade past them.

Who said anything about playing down? This is an attitude and a culture where aggressiveness both by the player and parent is rewarded by the top clubs. The kid has to be good, tho.

Its because in general players who's parents are looking to play down arent very good. If they were good playing up would be no problem. They're looking to play down because they can't compete with players their own grade.

Being the youngest isn't always easy. The new soccer rules will allow them a chance to be the oldest.

But Aug birthdays are still the same grade in school nothing changes. In a college coaches eyes you're just a weird sophmore thats playing at the freshman level.

College coaches take weird all the time. And don't care about your age group, said Eastside. Many value being different.

Top D1 colleges offering full rides do not take weird.

D3 expensive 90k per year private colleges take weird all day long.

Weird is your construct. It assumes there is some best path when there isn't, merely best player fits.

If D1s take foreign players then they take weird all day long.

Another complete fabrication.

D1 colleges offering full ride scholarships take the best players posdible not weird players playing down a grade.

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Anonymous wrote:As the oldest, August players have the highest chance to play in college under SY.

Except for any Aug players forced to play up because of grade. Then, they become the youngest. So stupid of an idea.

Not even close to the dumb idea of playing down a grade and thinking that college coaches wont notice.

The truth is being misaligned will make it harder just like it'll be harder if you are forced to play up. Both would be an extra hurdle to overcome. Not impossible in either case for the talented/hardest working but it would stymie many others in either situation. Interestingly, with how it's shaking out, we'll have clubs some clubs that go with grade and the oldest and others who make it case-by-case.

Correct being misaligned will make college recruiting much harder. To address there are two options. Play up with your grade or get held back a year in school. Either way you'll align grade in school with level played in club. Most rational people in this situation will choose to play on the correct grade team.

Why go through all the challenges of being an oddball. Just play your kid on a correct grade team from a young age. When it matters they'll be used to playing at the grade level college coaches are looking for.

That doesn't mean you always need to play with your grade though. Especially for girls when they are 14 or 15 they can realign to play with their grade. They will be done growing at that point and the RAE effect is much much less than it is when they are Ulittle ages.

Thats a lot of extra effort just to use rae to justify playing on a grade down on an A team. You dont think these type of players wont piss off correct grade parents? You dont think these type of players wont become a problem for 8th grade teams when they're playing HS soccer for 3 months during the season? You think correct grade teams will welcome a less developed player from a lower grade team?

Switching teams isn't extra effort, it is often what is required as kids get older to put them in position to play in college regardless of being misaligned or not. Others parents are always pissed, nobody cares, welcome to travel. If you are positioning you kid to keep other parent happy, you are parenting wrong. Players aren't welcomed to new teams, they just show up. Thinking a team is some kind of democracy is your problem, it doesn't work that way.

You are completely selfish and wrong. Coaches / Clubs will filter out parents like you after a couple of seasons. Seen it happen multiple times. Unless your kid is a unicorn which I doubt is the case since all you want to do is play down.

These parents aren't filtered out. They club hop and if they're kid is good enough, they've got them on the top MLSN/GA/ECNL teams. Those clubs cater to these parents, BTW, because they all are ruthless and play to win. By recruiting the best players and winning the most, they keep their college pipelines strong as well as the reputation.

I have seen the club hoppers come all the time. Clubs welcome them with open arms and have no problem pushing all the other kids on the team down a peg. You what the parents say? Nothing, because they know that's how sports works from rec to national teams.

Nope, every club hopper I've ever seen burns bridges everywhere they go. Over time they run out of clubs to play for and end up on the oddball loser team. Seen it hapoen multiple times. Add in that you dont think the rules apply to your kid and that you literally want to play down and its not going to be a happy ending. People see through you and college coachs will discount players playing down a grade. You're not going to sneak playing down a grade past them.

Who said anything about playing down? This is an attitude and a culture where aggressiveness both by the player and parent is rewarded by the top clubs. The kid has to be good, tho.

Its because in general players who's parents are looking to play down arent very good. If they were good playing up would be no problem. They're looking to play down because they can't compete with players their own grade.

Being the youngest isn't always easy. The new soccer rules will allow them a chance to be the oldest.

But Aug birthdays are still the same grade in school nothing changes. In a college coaches eyes you're just a weird sophmore thats playing at the freshman level.

College coaches take weird all the time. And don't care about your age group, said Eastside. Many value being different.

Top D1 colleges offering full rides do not take weird.

D3 expensive 90k per year private colleges take weird all day long.

Weird is your construct. It assumes there is some best path when there isn't, merely best player fits.

If D1s take foreign players then they take weird all day long.

Another complete fabrication.

D1 colleges offering full ride scholarships take the best players posdible not weird players playing down a grade.

They take the best players that fits regardless of situation. Here is the proof. Do you have any proof of what you say on being blocked form playing in college playing down a grade?

https://www.eastsidefc.or.../agegroups

"The new two-year age group structure will not negatively impact college recruiting. College coaches evaluate players based on their performance, development, and potential—not the exact age grouping of their club team."

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Anonymous wrote:As the oldest, August players have the highest chance to play in college under SY.

Except for any Aug players forced to play up because of grade. Then, they become the youngest. So stupid of an idea.

Not even close to the dumb idea of playing down a grade and thinking that college coaches wont notice.

The truth is being misaligned will make it harder just like it'll be harder if you are forced to play up. Both would be an extra hurdle to overcome. Not impossible in either case for the talented/hardest working but it would stymie many others in either situation. Interestingly, with how it's shaking out, we'll have clubs some clubs that go with grade and the oldest and others who make it case-by-case.

Correct being misaligned will make college recruiting much harder. To address there are two options. Play up with your grade or get held back a year in school. Either way you'll align grade in school with level played in club. Most rational people in this situation will choose to play on the correct grade team.

Why go through all the challenges of being an oddball. Just play your kid on a correct grade team from a young age. When it matters they'll be used to playing at the grade level college coaches are looking for.

That doesn't mean you always need to play with your grade though. Especially for girls when they are 14 or 15 they can realign to play with their grade. They will be done growing at that point and the RAE effect is much much less than it is when they are Ulittle ages.

Thats a lot of extra effort just to use rae to justify playing on a grade down on an A team. You dont think these type of players wont piss off correct grade parents? You dont think these type of players wont become a problem for 8th grade teams when they're playing HS soccer for 3 months during the season? You think correct grade teams will welcome a less developed player from a lower grade team?

Switching teams isn't extra effort, it is often what is required as kids get older to put them in position to play in college regardless of being misaligned or not. Others parents are always pissed, nobody cares, welcome to travel. If you are positioning you kid to keep other parent happy, you are parenting wrong. Players aren't welcomed to new teams, they just show up. Thinking a team is some kind of democracy is your problem, it doesn't work that way.

You are completely selfish and wrong. Coaches / Clubs will filter out parents like you after a couple of seasons. Seen it happen multiple times. Unless your kid is a unicorn which I doubt is the case since all you want to do is play down.

These parents aren't filtered out. They club hop and if they're kid is good enough, they've got them on the top MLSN/GA/ECNL teams. Those clubs cater to these parents, BTW, because they all are ruthless and play to win. By recruiting the best players and winning the most, they keep their college pipelines strong as well as the reputation.

I have seen the club hoppers come all the time. Clubs welcome them with open arms and have no problem pushing all the other kids on the team down a peg. You what the parents say? Nothing, because they know that's how sports works from rec to national teams.

Nope, every club hopper I've ever seen burns bridges everywhere they go. Over time they run out of clubs to play for and end up on the oddball loser team. Seen it hapoen multiple times. Add in that you dont think the rules apply to your kid and that you literally want to play down and its not going to be a happy ending. People see through you and college coachs will discount players playing down a grade. You're not going to sneak playing down a grade past them.

Who said anything about playing down? This is an attitude and a culture where aggressiveness both by the player and parent is rewarded by the top clubs. The kid has to be good, tho.

Its because in general players who's parents are looking to play down arent very good. If they were good playing up would be no problem. They're looking to play down because they can't compete with players their own grade.

Being the youngest isn't always easy. The new soccer rules will allow them a chance to be the oldest.

Making the conscious choice to be the youngest at a big soccer club would be a huge, unnecessary risk.

I agree its a tough call.

The sooner Aug players get used to playing up with their correct grade the better off they'll be when it comes time for college recruiting.

Or hold them back in school and align the level they're playing in club with their grade in school that way.

Eastside and college coaches said misaligned doesn't matter. But switching age groups or teams beyond say age 14 isn't that big of a deal and rosters at the better teams flip over so much anyway.

Whats crazy is you just strait lie.

When you talk about rae one of your justifications is that older players get on teams first and therefore younger players cant get onto them.

Then you completely jump over that statement and say that switching teams when youre older is no big deal.

RAE benefits are cumulative or persistent.

It's not that nuance is lost on you, it's that you are trying to ignore logic to suite your bias.

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https://www.facebook.com/groups/guestplayers/posts/4396834517306084/

Diiscussion about Aug birthdays playing up. Without the play with your age thread monkey commenting every 3 minutes. It looks like parents with Aug birtday kids are leaning to playing them up with their correct grade.

One person was planning to play they kid down on an 8th grade team and not play high school soccer their kids freshman year.Is this what clubs are recommending? Crazy

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Anonymous wrote:As the oldest, August players have the highest chance to play in college under SY.

Except for any Aug players forced to play up because of grade. Then, they become the youngest. So stupid of an idea.

Not even close to the dumb idea of playing down a grade and thinking that college coaches wont notice.

The truth is being misaligned will make it harder just like it'll be harder if you are forced to play up. Both would be an extra hurdle to overcome. Not impossible in either case for the talented/hardest working but it would stymie many others in either situation. Interestingly, with how it's shaking out, we'll have clubs some clubs that go with grade and the oldest and others who make it case-by-case.

Correct being misaligned will make college recruiting much harder. To address there are two options. Play up with your grade or get held back a year in school. Either way you'll align grade in school with level played in club. Most rational people in this situation will choose to play on the correct grade team.

Why go through all the challenges of being an oddball. Just play your kid on a correct grade team from a young age. When it matters they'll be used to playing at the grade level college coaches are looking for.

That doesn't mean you always need to play with your grade though. Especially for girls when they are 14 or 15 they can realign to play with their grade. They will be done growing at that point and the RAE effect is much much less than it is when they are Ulittle ages.

Thats a lot of extra effort just to use rae to justify playing on a grade down on an A team. You dont think these type of players wont piss off correct grade parents? You dont think these type of players wont become a problem for 8th grade teams when they're playing HS soccer for 3 months during the season? You think correct grade teams will welcome a less developed player from a lower grade team?

Switching teams isn't extra effort, it is often what is required as kids get older to put them in position to play in college regardless of being misaligned or not. Others parents are always pissed, nobody cares, welcome to travel. If you are positioning you kid to keep other parent happy, you are parenting wrong. Players aren't welcomed to new teams, they just show up. Thinking a team is some kind of democracy is your problem, it doesn't work that way.

You are completely selfish and wrong. Coaches / Clubs will filter out parents like you after a couple of seasons. Seen it happen multiple times. Unless your kid is a unicorn which I doubt is the case since all you want to do is play down.

These parents aren't filtered out. They club hop and if they're kid is good enough, they've got them on the top MLSN/GA/ECNL teams. Those clubs cater to these parents, BTW, because they all are ruthless and play to win. By recruiting the best players and winning the most, they keep their college pipelines strong as well as the reputation.

I have seen the club hoppers come all the time. Clubs welcome them with open arms and have no problem pushing all the other kids on the team down a peg. You what the parents say? Nothing, because they know that's how sports works from rec to national teams.

Nope, every club hopper I've ever seen burns bridges everywhere they go. Over time they run out of clubs to play for and end up on the oddball loser team. Seen it hapoen multiple times. Add in that you dont think the rules apply to your kid and that you literally want to play down and its not going to be a happy ending. People see through you and college coachs will discount players playing down a grade. You're not going to sneak playing down a grade past them.

Who said anything about playing down? This is an attitude and a culture where aggressiveness both by the player and parent is rewarded by the top clubs. The kid has to be good, tho.

Its because in general players who's parents are looking to play down arent very good. If they were good playing up would be no problem. They're looking to play down because they can't compete with players their own grade.

Being the youngest isn't always easy. The new soccer rules will allow them a chance to be the oldest.

Making the conscious choice to be the youngest at a big soccer club would be a huge, unnecessary risk.

I agree its a tough call.

The sooner Aug players get used to playing up with their correct grade the better off they'll be when it comes time for college recruiting.

Or hold them back in school and align the level they're playing in club with their grade in school that way.

Eastside and college coaches said misaligned doesn't matter. But switching age groups or teams beyond say age 14 isn't that big of a deal and rosters at the better teams flip over so much anyway.

Whats crazy is you just strait lie.

When you talk about rae one of your justifications is that older players get on teams first and therefore younger players cant get onto them.

Then you completely jump over that statement and say that switching teams when youre older is no big deal.

RAE benefits are cumulative or persistent.

It's not that nuance is lost on you, it's that you are trying to ignore logic to suite your bias.

Got it, selective rae

I can totally see how you can use rae as a tool for snowplowing your kid onto an A team that they normally wouldn't qualify for. And best of all if things dont work out its raes fault.

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Uh Oh... ECNL clubs are asking for players graduation year. Wonder why?

https://www.reddit.com/r/youthsoccer/comments/1om6nmt/age_group_rule_change_question/

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Anonymous wrote:Uh Oh... ECNL clubs are asking for players graduation year. Wonder why?

https://www.reddit.com/r/youthsoccer/comments/1om6nmt/age_group_rule_change_question/

Don't they ask this ever year? Is this new to you?

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And another example where SY allowing aug birthdays to play down will screw up teams their 8th grade year because the 9th grade players will do high school soccer.

https://www.reddit.com/r/youthsoccer/comments/1q01liq/what_to_do_for_trapped_players_in_the_fall/

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Anonymous wrote:Uh Oh... ECNL clubs are asking for players graduation year. Wonder why?

https://www.reddit.com/r/youthsoccer/comments/1om6nmt/age_group_rule_change_question/

Don't they ask this ever year? Is this new to you?

Clubs do ask about grade every year.

The play by your age guy says that clubs don't and only calender is requested.

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.facebook.com/groups/guestplayers/posts/4396834517306084/

Diiscussion about Aug birthdays playing up. Without the play with your age thread monkey commenting every 3 minutes. It looks like parents with Aug birtday kids are leaning to playing them up with their correct grade.

One person was planning to play they kid down on an 8th grade team and not play high school soccer their kids freshman year.Is this what clubs are recommending? Crazy

Wtf? Did you even read the comments when you post?

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Anonymous wrote:As the oldest, August players have the highest chance to play in college under SY.

Except for any Aug players forced to play up because of grade. Then, they become the youngest. So stupid of an idea.

Not even close to the dumb idea of playing down a grade and thinking that college coaches wont notice.

The truth is being misaligned will make it harder just like it'll be harder if you are forced to play up. Both would be an extra hurdle to overcome. Not impossible in either case for the talented/hardest working but it would stymie many others in either situation. Interestingly, with how it's shaking out, we'll have clubs some clubs that go with grade and the oldest and others who make it case-by-case.

Correct being misaligned will make college recruiting much harder. To address there are two options. Play up with your grade or get held back a year in school. Either way you'll align grade in school with level played in club. Most rational people in this situation will choose to play on the correct grade team.

Why go through all the challenges of being an oddball. Just play your kid on a correct grade team from a young age. When it matters they'll be used to playing at the grade level college coaches are looking for.

That doesn't mean you always need to play with your grade though. Especially for girls when they are 14 or 15 they can realign to play with their grade. They will be done growing at that point and the RAE effect is much much less than it is when they are Ulittle ages.

Thats a lot of extra effort just to use rae to justify playing on a grade down on an A team. You dont think these type of players wont piss off correct grade parents? You dont think these type of players wont become a problem for 8th grade teams when they're playing HS soccer for 3 months during the season? You think correct grade teams will welcome a less developed player from a lower grade team?

Switching teams isn't extra effort, it is often what is required as kids get older to put them in position to play in college regardless of being misaligned or not. Others parents are always pissed, nobody cares, welcome to travel. If you are positioning you kid to keep other parent happy, you are parenting wrong. Players aren't welcomed to new teams, they just show up. Thinking a team is some kind of democracy is your problem, it doesn't work that way.

You are completely selfish and wrong. Coaches / Clubs will filter out parents like you after a couple of seasons. Seen it happen multiple times. Unless your kid is a unicorn which I doubt is the case since all you want to do is play down.

These parents aren't filtered out. They club hop and if they're kid is good enough, they've got them on the top MLSN/GA/ECNL teams. Those clubs cater to these parents, BTW, because they all are ruthless and play to win. By recruiting the best players and winning the most, they keep their college pipelines strong as well as the reputation.

I have seen the club hoppers come all the time. Clubs welcome them with open arms and have no problem pushing all the other kids on the team down a peg. You what the parents say? Nothing, because they know that's how sports works from rec to national teams.

Nope, every club hopper I've ever seen burns bridges everywhere they go. Over time they run out of clubs to play for and end up on the oddball loser team. Seen it hapoen multiple times. Add in that you dont think the rules apply to your kid and that you literally want to play down and its not going to be a happy ending. People see through you and college coachs will discount players playing down a grade. You're not going to sneak playing down a grade past them.

Who said anything about playing down? This is an attitude and a culture where aggressiveness both by the player and parent is rewarded by the top clubs. The kid has to be good, tho.

Its because in general players who's parents are looking to play down arent very good. If they were good playing up would be no problem. They're looking to play down because they can't compete with players their own grade.

Being the youngest isn't always easy. The new soccer rules will allow them a chance to be the oldest.

Making the conscious choice to be the youngest at a big soccer club would be a huge, unnecessary risk.

I agree its a tough call.

The sooner Aug players get used to playing up with their correct grade the better off they'll be when it comes time for college recruiting.

Or hold them back in school and align the level they're playing in club with their grade in school that way.

Eastside and college coaches said misaligned doesn't matter. But switching age groups or teams beyond say age 14 isn't that big of a deal and rosters at the better teams flip over so much anyway.

Whats crazy is you just strait lie.

When you talk about rae one of your justifications is that older players get on teams first and therefore younger players cant get onto them.

Then you completely jump over that statement and say that switching teams when youre older is no big deal.

RAE benefits are cumulative or persistent.

It's not that nuance is lost on you, it's that you are trying to ignore logic to suite your bias.

Got it, selective rae

I can totally see how you can use rae as a tool for snowplowing your kid onto an A team that they normally wouldn't qualify for. And best of all if things dont work out its raes fault.

How selective?

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Anonymous wrote:Uh Oh... ECNL clubs are asking for players graduation year. Wonder why?

https://www.reddit.com/r/youthsoccer/comments/1om6nmt/age_group_rule_change_question/

Don't they ask this ever year? Is this new to you?

Clubs do ask about grade every year.

The play by your age guy says that clubs don't and only calender is requested.

Clubs post graduation year for colleges. It just doesn't matter the age group you are in, says Eastside and ACC coach.

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.facebook.com/groups/guestplayers/posts/4396834517306084/

Diiscussion about Aug birthdays playing up. Without the play with your age thread monkey commenting every 3 minutes. It looks like parents with Aug birtday kids are leaning to playing them up with their correct grade.

One person was planning to play they kid down on an 8th grade team and not play high school soccer their kids freshman year.Is this what clubs are recommending? Crazy

Wtf? Did you even read the comments when you post?

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My kid is also an August birthday and we're having him play up. While he'll be one of the younger players on his team he'll be aligned with his school grade and will play high school with his friends.