Really that’s so weird? Because every jummah prayer includes a mention to ease their suffering. I think you’re a crusty, nasty bigot who actually doesn’t know any Arabs or Muslims for that matter. |
I guess PP assumes his friends dont have epithets for Jews. |
Then leave us alone. Get out of our Gaza and the West Bank and let us live, you’re so obsessed with us and the expulsion that you won’t. Get out, end the blockades, let us have our own country, but you won’t. Stop controlling everything, my god. |
He doesn’t know any Arabs, he’s a liar. |
Hamas are not Israelis, but they are not Israeli's priority. Why else would they still be alive and large and in charge? Why hasnt a beeper massacre been perpetrated on them? Israel's existential threat is not Hamas, but Iran and Hezbollah according to their own government. Hamas is something Israel does not want to eliminate because that means bye bye to Likud in Israel. Israel was always a left wing country for the most part of its recent history until Netanyahu breathed life into Likud and kept it strong, and that lifeblood was always Hamas. Without Hamas attacks in the 90s, Netanyahu wouldve never won his first election as PM. Hamas is a tool according to Netanyahu. It's why he did nothing on 10/7 and told the army to twiddle its thumbs and let people get taken captive. Until Israel puts Netanyahu in jail for life, nothing good will come to that country |
The end of Hamas will only come with the end of Netanyahu. In fact from 2006-2009, Hamas was already dying and on its way out under Olmert, but once Bibi won election, they were able to survive and get millions in dollars funneled in to build tunnels and infrastructure.
Bibi and Hamas do not care about wars or sacrifcing their own people to die so long as the words two state solution are never uttered. Bibi and Hamas have similar hatred for the US and negotiators, they hate Rabin and Arafat and the Oslo Accords. The idea of shaking hands and dividing the land evenly is something unfathomable to either. They are two right wing extremists with the same philosophy: no two state solution ever. |
A year and a half ago from July-August 2023, something happened that shook Hamas and Netanyahu to their core.
Moderate Israelis and Gazans stood up to mass demonstrate against Netanyahu and Hamas in unprecedented mass demonstrations bolstered by social media. They faced resignation demands, strikes, and even the refusal to join the army in the case of Israelis. 10/7 happens two months later. |
Must read article.
How can any self respecting Jew support Netanyahu? How is he different than Hamas if he supports Hamas and the death of Jewish people for political goals? https://blogs.timesofisrael.com/netanyahu-and-hamas-a-symbiotic-relationship-that-costs-israel-dearly/ Mr. Netanyahu is “the father of the concept of strengthening Hamas,” said retired Major General.Gadi Shamani, a former commander of the military’s Gaza Division. “The MO of Netanyahu’s policy since his return to the Prime Minister’s Office in 2009 has and continues to be, on the one hand, bolstering the rule of Hamas in the Gaza Strip, and, on the other, weakening the Palestinian Authority,” Mr. Raz noted. “When Netanyahu declared in April 2019…that ‘we have restored deterrence with Hamas’ and that ’we have blocked the main supply routes,’ he was lying through his teeth. For over a decade, Netanyahu has lent a hand…to the growing military and political power of Hamas. Netanyahu is the one who turned Hamas from a terror organization with few resources into a semi-state body,” Mr. Raz added. ”Netanyahu knew that Hamas was not going to use the money for the welfare of Gaza’s children or for modernising the Strip, but rather for building tunnels and purchasing weapons, turning Gaza into a Spartan state at war with Israel. Yet still, he did it for the sake of eliminating the possibility of a two-state solution,” Mr. Raz said. In doing so, Mr. Netanyahu and assassinated Hamas leader Yahya Sinwar did each other’s bidding. Both men opposed ending the conflict in anything but a zero-sum game, rejected a two-state solution, and dealt in death to achieve their goals. “Revenge is the logic of Sinwar and Netanyahu,” Mr. Raz said. In a 2018 Hebrew-language note to Mr. Netanyahu’s then-national security advisor, Meir Ben Shabbat, Mr. Sinwar, who learned Hebrew during his 22 years in Israeli prison, appeared to call the suitcase arrangement a “calculated risk.” Mr. Sinwar was one of 1,027 Palestinians released from prison in 2011 on Mr. Netanyahu’s watch in exchange for Hamas-held Israeli soldier Gilad Shalit. Mr. Raz and senior Israelis, including former Prime Minister Naftali Bennet, former Deputy Prime Minister Avigdor Lieberman, and former Defense Minister Benny Gantz, charged that Mr. Netanyahu would go to any length to ensure Hamas’s survival. In one instance during the 2014 Gaza war, the former officials said Mr. Netanyahu sought to prevent an invasion of the Strip by leaking the military’s top-secret presentation to the security Cabinet of its potential consequences. Last year, Mr. Lieberman accused Mr. Netanyahu of blocking targeted assassinations of Hamas leaders. A slew of former political leaders, military commanders, and intelligence chiefs, including Ehud Barak and Gadi Eisenkot, have echoed assertions of Mr. Netanyahu’s enabling of Hamas over the past year. Speaking to lawmakers of his Likud party in 2019, Mr. Netanyahu defended his policy. “Whoever opposes a Palestinian state must support the transfer of funds from Qatar to Hamas,” Mr. Netanyahu said. |
Yep and obviously Hamas is still alive and kicking. Great job Israel!! They didn’t destroy Hamas, they killed at least 50,000 Gazans and then forced their own hostages to wait months longer than necessary to be released.
SMH. |
Israel wasn't in Gaza pre-Oct. 7. Prior to Israel’s founding and the Jordanian occupation of the West Bank, the territory contained several Jewish communities. Jordan expelled 17,000 Jews from the West Bank during the 1948 war, and when Israel conquered the territory in 1967, it had no Jewish population. The first West Bank settlement was Kfar Etzion, a Jewish community that existed prior to 1948 that Israel reestablished in 1967. So, the presence of the IDF in Gaza is due only to Hamas' atrocities of Oct 7, while the presence of the IDF and settlers in the West Bank is due only to Jordan's defeat following the 1967 war which was precipitated by Fatah and other Palestinian guerilla organizations attacking targets inside Israel. "Get out"? It's far too late for that when you speak of the West Bank, formerly used as a staging ground for terror attacks. And the IDF wasn't present in Gaza until the terror attacks of Oct 7. Notice a theme? Terrorists attack Israeli interests, get defeated, lose land, cry, and want the land back. Doesn't seem to work that way. |
Israel is an object of obsessive worship for (A) radical, extremist Zionists, (B) evangelical weirdos, (C) corrupt members of the U.S. political class who transform their personal conflicts of interest into toxic American FP (e.g., Blinken), (D) corrupt members of Congress who are happy to whore themselves and U.S. interests for a handful of shekels, and (E) the “I’m not even Jewish!” and “I’ll tell you what you REALLY think!” troll brigades that monitor these threads to attack facts and actual history with fairytales, callous disregard for non-Jewish life, and their boiler room copy of Israeli Propaganda for Dummies.
Hamas, just like all extremists, should be denounced into oblivion. Likud, the other right wing political parties in Israel, the settlers, etc. are extremist birds of a feather. There are also garden variety Palestinians and Israelis who act in ways that make them their own worst enemy, too. But there are also Palestinians and Israelis who don’t support the policies or actions of Hamas or the Israeli government. They understood that major regional reform that addresses the Palestinian refugee crisis of the past 75 years is the only path to peace in the region. None of those observations makes what has occurred in Gaza and the West Bank over the past 75 years acceptable to civilized people. Not sure what accountability should or will look like in the Middle East, but it’s sad to say that I don't think any side will be happy with what’s to come … |
Get out. Stop being obsessed with us, leave us alone. There was still a blockade in gaza. I don’t care about where the Jews lived or didn’t live, leave us alone. Stop raping our young girls and women, stop massacring our men, stop breaking the arms of 4 year old boys playing outside, stop sniping the knee caps of soccer players, stop thinking that we care about you, news flash we don’t we want to be left alone in our own space without your nasty IDF at every turn. Leave us alone. |
Leave Palestinians alone and don't stand in the way of their terrorism. Got it. |
So I ask again: do you know any Palestinians anyone living in the midd east (who is not a Jewish Israeli)? Have you even visited the region (Israel and ann other areas in the. Middle East?). I have. It’s eye opening. If not you simply and factually do not have the full understanding g if the situation and although I am sure you think you can cast righteous blame you cannot. I challenge you to- get to know some Palestinians. Talk to the. And understand their history. Then we can have a conversation about who is “right” and who are “human animals”. |
?? Was Gaza its own country? Were its residents entitled to vote? Did they hold passports and allowed free travel? Who controlled the flow of goods and people in and out? |