Have you sign-up for weekly asymptomatic testing at APS

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The H1N1/swine flu was much, much less deadly than Covid. H1N1 infected 6 million people in the US and killed just 12.5K people altogether, for a mortality rate of 0.02% across the whole population. H1N1 killed about 600K people WORLDWIDE, whereas that is how many people it has killed so far in the US alone. Different viruses.

Not to children. It was much deadlier to children (1,800 children estimated in US for H1N1 in 2009-201 vs. 198 for COVID in 2020, 241 in 2021).

All of these regulations are absurd for children at this point, when you compare COVID to H1N1 or other bad flu seasons (434 est. for 2019-2020, 477 for 2018-2019, 643 for 2017-2018, 803 for 2014-2015, 1,161 for 2012-2013).
https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/past-seasons.html

So children have to be the sole bearer of the burden of COVID regulations, a disease that barely affects them? There are 3 vaccines available for the rest of the population.

The sole bearer of the burden? By getting a gentle swab in their nose once a week?

I'm not the "sole bearer" poster; but I agree that adults should be required/mandated to do more, especially if we expect our kids to do these things.

[Anonymous]

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Making the contacts of asymptomatic Covid positive kids stay home from school is unnecessary and cruel. It will make no dent on the spread of Covid

How do you know the kids are asymptomatic vs. pre-symptomatic?

And asymptomatic cases can infect others...estimated to cause "one fifth of household infections".
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanepe/article/PIIS2666-7762(21)00059-4/fulltext

Link doesn’t work.

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanepe/article/PIIS2666-7762(21)00059-4/fulltext

DP, but for future reference you can just copy and paste the text of the link and put in in your browser and hit go. But do you actually not know and need someone to prove to you that people who have covid but are asymptomatic actually can and have transmitted the virus to others? I thought we all learned that in early times even before Delta. I don't understand how you don't know this.

‘Can and have’ is extraordinarily different than ‘likely to’. So the study says that 20 percent of infections from a household member (eg those you live with, unmasked) were a symptomatic. 80 percent were symptomatic.
Last year 1.4 percent of school contacts developed COVID. That’s extraordinarily low. Now make that asymptotic s hook contacts and we are way below a 1 percent probability. Yet we are quarantining those kids and forcing them out of school

Last year the kids were spaced 6 feet and 10 at lunch, and schools were far below capacity, and we were dealing with a different variant. We're in different times now. Or haven't you been keeping up with the news?

Cases are going down in Arlington, now that schools are open.

Sometimes I feel like certain people want in-person school to fail, because its success will be a rebuke of everything they did last year (Ventilation Woman, Lunch Petitioner, CO2 Monitor Woman). I suppose if I fought for what will be the biggest educational disaster of my lifetime, I'd be pretty defensive about it too.

Admitting that schools are safe (and were safe last year) would mean coming to terms with the fact that you destroyed the educations of an entire generation of kids because of your own irrational anxiety. I'd be desperate too.

This surveillance testing is another way to pad these people's ego. I won't sign up.

So you won’t sign your kids up for testing…out of spite? Wow. You’re totally mental.

[Anonymous]

Vaccinate & mask & test until we get past this surge.

Almost over, people. We can do this.

https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2021/09/22/1039272244/is-the-worst-over-modelers-predict-a-steady-decline-in-covid-cases-through-march

[Anonymous]

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The sole bearer of the burden? By getting a gentle swab in their nose once a week?

No - by being forced to stay out of school for 8 days because they happened to be in vicinity of an asymptomatic covid + child. Stop denying that keeping healthy kids out of school isn't placing a burden on them. It is.

Yeah I really wish they had a sufficient supply of rapid tests and could institute a test to stay protocol

I would support - and opt my kids in to - a program using individual testing and only quarantining the positive-test student. Forget the close contacts, which is so ridiculously defined by APS and quite infeasible to determine esp at the secondary levels. If close contacts want to test, they can. People *should* be informed if they were potentially exposed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Vaccinate & mask & test until we get past this surge.

Almost over, people. We can do this.

https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2021/09/22/1039272244/is-the-worst-over-modelers-predict-a-steady-decline-in-covid-cases-through-march

You mean, get adults vaccinated and live your life.

Modelers?!? HAHAHA They've been so wrong this entire pandemic. This guy, Justin Lessler, on May 4, 2020 predicted 3,000 deaths by June 1, 2020 - there were actually 750 - so he was off by 4x. See predictions about Freedom Day in the UK this July. They were predicting cases would skyrocket, and they actually plummeted. See also Neil Ferguson's ridiculous modeled predictions in March 2020.

Do you have an RCT that shows masks work? No, you don't (and don't say the Bangladesh study, which showed cloth masks do NOT work and medical masks only worked for those over 40 - it didn't analyze kids either and was done prior to a vaccine).

My family has only masked since January where legally required and I encourage everyone in Arlington to stop wearing masks.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Vaccinate & mask & test until we get past this surge.

Almost over, people. We can do this.

https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2021/09/22/1039272244/is-the-worst-over-modelers-predict-a-steady-decline-in-covid-cases-through-march

You mean, get adults vaccinated and live your life.

Modelers?!? HAHAHA They've been so wrong this entire pandemic. This guy, Justin Lessler, on May 4, 2020 predicted 3,000 deaths by June 1, 2020 - there were actually 750 - so he was off by 4x. See predictions about Freedom Day in the UK this July. They were predicting cases would skyrocket, and they actually plummeted. See also Neil Ferguson's ridiculous modeled predictions in March 2020.

Do you have an RCT that shows masks work? No, you don't (and don't say the Bangladesh study, which showed cloth masks do NOT work and medical masks only worked for those over 40 - it didn't analyze kids either and was done prior to a vaccine).

My family has only masked since January where legally required and I encourage everyone in Arlington to stop wearing masks.

For me, the worst thing coming out of the pandemic is knowing that sh1tty people like PP (and the spiteful anti-tester) live in our community. WTF is wrong with you?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Vaccinate & mask & test until we get past this surge.

Almost over, people. We can do this.

https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2021/09/22/1039272244/is-the-worst-over-modelers-predict-a-steady-decline-in-covid-cases-through-march

You mean, get adults vaccinated and live your life.

Modelers?!? HAHAHA They've been so wrong this entire pandemic. This guy, Justin Lessler, on May 4, 2020 predicted 3,000 deaths by June 1, 2020 - there were actually 750 - so he was off by 4x. See predictions about Freedom Day in the UK this July. They were predicting cases would skyrocket, and they actually plummeted. See also Neil Ferguson's ridiculous modeled predictions in March 2020.

Do you have an RCT that shows masks work? No, you don't (and don't say the Bangladesh study, which showed cloth masks do NOT work and medical masks only worked for those over 40 - it didn't analyze kids either and was done prior to a vaccine).

My family has only masked since January where legally required and I encourage everyone in Arlington to stop wearing masks.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Vaccinate & mask & test until we get past this surge.

Almost over, people. We can do this.

https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2021/09/22/1039272244/is-the-worst-over-modelers-predict-a-steady-decline-in-covid-cases-through-march

You mean, get adults vaccinated and live your life.

Modelers?!? HAHAHA They've been so wrong this entire pandemic. This guy, Justin Lessler, on May 4, 2020 predicted 3,000 deaths by June 1, 2020 - there were actually 750 - so he was off by 4x. See predictions about Freedom Day in the UK this July. They were predicting cases would skyrocket, and they actually plummeted. See also Neil Ferguson's ridiculous modeled predictions in March 2020.

Do you have an RCT that shows masks work? No, you don't (and don't say the Bangladesh study, which showed cloth masks do NOT work and medical masks only worked for those over 40 - it didn't analyze kids either and was done prior to a vaccine).

My family has only masked since January where legally required and I encourage everyone in Arlington to stop wearing masks.



And when his kid's class is quarantined, let the s***show begin.

[Anonymous]

I have two questions I haven't seen the answer to. But I'm only asking here, anonymously, as there is so much division and judgment in the community over these issues.

(1) I am curious if my kids table-mates at school are opted-in to testing or not. Could the teacher seat the opted-in kids together, and the opted-out kids together? That would seem to suit both groups needs best.

(2) Does the teacher know which kids are opted in, and which aren't?

(Our family is not opted-in due to the many problems with the design and execution of the APS testing program. But I generally would support an evidence-based, rapid, test to stay program using best practices to keep kids in school.)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Vaccinate & mask & test until we get past this surge.

Almost over, people. We can do this.

https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2021/09/22/1039272244/is-the-worst-over-modelers-predict-a-steady-decline-in-covid-cases-through-march

You mean, get adults vaccinated and live your life.

Modelers?!? HAHAHA They've been so wrong this entire pandemic. This guy, Justin Lessler, on May 4, 2020 predicted 3,000 deaths by June 1, 2020 - there were actually 750 - so he was off by 4x. See predictions about Freedom Day in the UK this July. They were predicting cases would skyrocket, and they actually plummeted. See also Neil Ferguson's ridiculous modeled predictions in March 2020.

Do you have an RCT that shows masks work? No, you don't (and don't say the Bangladesh study, which showed cloth masks do NOT work and medical masks only worked for those over 40 - it didn't analyze kids either and was done prior to a vaccine).

My family has only masked since January where legally required and I encourage everyone in Arlington to stop wearing masks.



And when his kid's class is quarantined, let the s***show begin.

We follow the science --> no masks.

There's no RCT that shows that masks work (other than a KN95 or N95). The burden is on the party proposing the intervention to scientifically prove it works. Thus, we're following the science.

COVID is endemic and will be here forever. Everyone will be exposed to it repeatedly for the rest of their lives. Trying to "slow the spread" is a worthless endeavor, considering COVID will spread for the rest of your life. Best to get vaccinated to protect yourself.

Us adults are vaccinated. The unvaccinated kids under 12 have lower risk than us vaccinated adults (as shown by Public Health England's Data)

Please focus on your kids' health by returning to normal as their mental health matters.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Vaccinate & mask & test until we get past this surge.

Almost over, people. We can do this.

https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2021/09/22/1039272244/is-the-worst-over-modelers-predict-a-steady-decline-in-covid-cases-through-march

You mean, get adults vaccinated and live your life.

Modelers?!? HAHAHA They've been so wrong this entire pandemic. This guy, Justin Lessler, on May 4, 2020 predicted 3,000 deaths by June 1, 2020 - there were actually 750 - so he was off by 4x. See predictions about Freedom Day in the UK this July. They were predicting cases would skyrocket, and they actually plummeted. See also Neil Ferguson's ridiculous modeled predictions in March 2020.

Do you have an RCT that shows masks work? No, you don't (and don't say the Bangladesh study, which showed cloth masks do NOT work and medical masks only worked for those over 40 - it didn't analyze kids either and was done prior to a vaccine).

My family has only masked since January where legally required and I encourage everyone in Arlington to stop wearing masks.



And when his kid's class is quarantined, let the s***show begin.

We follow the science --> no masks.

There's no RCT that shows that masks work (other than a KN95 or N95). The burden is on the party proposing the intervention to scientifically prove it works. Thus, we're following the science.

COVID is endemic and will be here forever. Everyone will be exposed to it repeatedly for the rest of their lives. Trying to "slow the spread" is a worthless endeavor, considering COVID will spread for the rest of your life. Best to get vaccinated to protect yourself.

Us adults are vaccinated. The unvaccinated kids under 12 have lower risk than us vaccinated adults (as shown by Public Health England's Data)

Please focus on your kids' health by returning to normal as their mental health matters.

CDC says vaccinate, mask, and test. I trust CDC over anonymous ODD poster.

Do your part as a member of society. Perhaps this is something you could discuss with your therapist.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I have two questions I haven't seen the answer to. But I'm only asking here, anonymously, as there is so much division and judgment in the community over these issues.

(1) I am curious if my kids table-mates at school are opted-in to testing or not. Could the teacher seat the opted-in kids together, and the opted-out kids together? That would seem to suit both groups needs best.

(2) Does the teacher know which kids are opted in, and which aren't?

(Our family is not opted-in due to the many problems with the design and execution of the APS testing program. But I generally would support an evidence-based, rapid, test to stay program using best practices to keep kids in school.)

Bumping this again

[Anonymous]

CDC says vaccinate, mask, and test. I trust CDC over anonymous ODD poster.

Do your part as a member of society. Perhaps this is something you could discuss with your therapist.

The CDC is looking at this from the perspective of lowering the risk to ALL (vaccinated and unvaccinated). Healthcare providers are nice like that. At this point in the pandemic, we are seeing that cases resulting in hospitalization are almost exclusively unvaccinated adults. At the risk of sounding like a jerk, I NO LONGER CARE about keeping unvaccinated people safe in NOVA. It is the CDC's job to care, but me and my kids don't have to go out of our way to protect the willfully ignorant any more. We vaccinate, we mask, we social distance, we don't go to crowded indoor places. I draw the line at quarantining healthy kids for the less than 1% chance that they may test positive for Covid.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Vaccinate & mask & test until we get past this surge.

Almost over, people. We can do this.

https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2021/09/22/1039272244/is-the-worst-over-modelers-predict-a-steady-decline-in-covid-cases-through-march

You mean, get adults vaccinated and live your life.

Modelers?!? HAHAHA They've been so wrong this entire pandemic. This guy, Justin Lessler, on May 4, 2020 predicted 3,000 deaths by June 1, 2020 - there were actually 750 - so he was off by 4x. See predictions about Freedom Day in the UK this July. They were predicting cases would skyrocket, and they actually plummeted. See also Neil Ferguson's ridiculous modeled predictions in March 2020.

Do you have an RCT that shows masks work? No, you don't (and don't say the Bangladesh study, which showed cloth masks do NOT work and medical masks only worked for those over 40 - it didn't analyze kids either and was done prior to a vaccine).

My family has only masked since January where legally required and I encourage everyone in Arlington to stop wearing masks.



And when his kid's class is quarantined, let the s***show begin.

We follow the science --> no masks.

There's no RCT that shows that masks work (other than a KN95 or N95). The burden is on the party proposing the intervention to scientifically prove it works. Thus, we're following the science.

COVID is endemic and will be here forever. Everyone will be exposed to it repeatedly for the rest of their lives. Trying to "slow the spread" is a worthless endeavor, considering COVID will spread for the rest of your life. Best to get vaccinated to protect yourself.

Us adults are vaccinated. The unvaccinated kids under 12 have lower risk than us vaccinated adults (as shown by Public Health England's Data)

Please focus on your kids' health by returning to normal as their mental health matters.

CDC says vaccinate, mask, and test. I trust CDC over anonymous ODD poster.

Do your part as a member of society. Perhaps this is something you could discuss with your therapist.

The CDC also says don't let your dog lick you in the face and don't eat hamburgers and steak unless cooked well done. I think they have a very different risk perspective than most people.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Vaccinate & mask & test until we get past this surge.

Almost over, people. We can do this.

https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2021/09/22/1039272244/is-the-worst-over-modelers-predict-a-steady-decline-in-covid-cases-through-march

You mean, get adults vaccinated and live your life.

Modelers?!? HAHAHA They've been so wrong this entire pandemic. This guy, Justin Lessler, on May 4, 2020 predicted 3,000 deaths by June 1, 2020 - there were actually 750 - so he was off by 4x. See predictions about Freedom Day in the UK this July. They were predicting cases would skyrocket, and they actually plummeted. See also Neil Ferguson's ridiculous modeled predictions in March 2020.

Do you have an RCT that shows masks work? No, you don't (and don't say the Bangladesh study, which showed cloth masks do NOT work and medical masks only worked for those over 40 - it didn't analyze kids either and was done prior to a vaccine).

My family has only masked since January where legally required and I encourage everyone in Arlington to stop wearing masks.



And when his kid's class is quarantined, let the s***show begin.

We follow the science --> no masks.

There's no RCT that shows that masks work (other than a KN95 or N95). The burden is on the party proposing the intervention to scientifically prove it works. Thus, we're following the science.

COVID is endemic and will be here forever. Everyone will be exposed to it repeatedly for the rest of their lives. Trying to "slow the spread" is a worthless endeavor, considering COVID will spread for the rest of your life. Best to get vaccinated to protect yourself.

Us adults are vaccinated. The unvaccinated kids under 12 have lower risk than us vaccinated adults (as shown by Public Health England's Data)

Please focus on your kids' health by returning to normal as their mental health matters.

CDC says vaccinate, mask, and test. I trust CDC over anonymous ODD poster.

Do your part as a member of society. Perhaps this is something you could discuss with your therapist.

The CDC also says don't let your dog lick you in the face and don't eat hamburgers and steak unless cooked well done. I think they have a very different risk perspective than most people.

You must obey whatever the government says. Don't ask questions. Don't look at the science (or the lack thereof) from any of their "recommendations". Just obey.

And whatever you do, don't look at those awful unmasked kids in school in Europe. They'll all be dead soon anyway.