GDS Student Newspaper posts about the horrible incident

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If there has god forbid been another incident like this at school in the time GDS sat on this for a year and did nothing, this will open up GDS to great liability including criminal liability.

This is why they should have notified the community in 2025 when this came to light - even to say we have investigated a troubling charge and not found anything. They refused to even do that.....

This is precisely why I am disinclined to believe that GDS was negligent I its response, as others assert. GDS would be litigated to its death if the perpetrators committed another assault. There is no incentive to believe that GDS would sweep an incident this serious under the rug. Also as one PP noted I cannot believe that the rumor mill has not spit out the names of the perpetrators. GDS is a small community and the fact that none of the middle schoolers seem to know anything is telling. GDS parents love gossip, and there has been nothing about the perpetrators that is known.
I do believe that this poor child suffered something terrible, but I do wonder if the actual facts of this child’s abuse are being obscured by this child out of fear.

+1 If you were actually a parent at the school when this supposedly was reported, you would know that the family did share it with plenty of families, and based on who it was and how they handled it alone you would know enough to trust that the school did everything right here. The people on here claiming they know anything are sadly liars with nothing better to do with their free time.

I am PP and am a parent of two GDS students, including one in the MS. I feel your anger, frustration, and pain. I really do. I also think that GDS is not negligent here. By no means do I think that the school and the board are perfect, or even great, but in this case I believe the school acted appropriately. I also believe that the child was abused, but not by two GDS middle schoolers. There is just too much that does not make sense here.

By whom? If by outsiders but inside the school, it would have been crazy. The real question people should ask is: is this school safe to attend?

And if your young child is raped will they be smeared as a liar and a crisis pr firm with pedo ties be brought in as cleanup? Or do they walk the talk of consent culture at GDS? Or use an annual conference as pr and a deflection from the REAL GDS culture we can all see on display?

[Anonymous]

Not a safe school. Not only because of the risk of rape, but also because there was no support whatsoever from the school nor a genuine intention to solve the issue.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Not a safe school. Not only because of the risk of rape, but also because there was no support whatsoever from the school nor a genuine intention to solve the issue.

They contacted police and hired an independant invetigator.
What else can they do?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not a safe school. Not only because of the risk of rape, but also because there was no support whatsoever from the school nor a genuine intention to solve the issue.

They contacted police and hired an independant invetigator.
What else can they do?

There’s no point in participating in this thread with good faith. It’s just continuously derailed by one looney tunes poster.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not a safe school. Not only because of the risk of rape, but also because there was no support whatsoever from the school nor a genuine intention to solve the issue.

They contacted police and hired an independant invetigator.
What else can they do?

There’s no point in participating in this thread with good faith. It’s just continuously derailed by one looney tunes poster.

+1 although I do think there is more than one looney tune posting.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If there has god forbid been another incident like this at school in the time GDS sat on this for a year and did nothing, this will open up GDS to great liability including criminal liability.

This is why they should have notified the community in 2025 when this came to light - even to say we have investigated a troubling charge and not found anything. They refused to even do that.....

This is precisely why I am disinclined to believe that GDS was negligent I its response, as others assert. GDS would be litigated to its death if the perpetrators committed another assault. There is no incentive to believe that GDS would sweep an incident this serious under the rug. Also as one PP noted I cannot believe that the rumor mill has not spit out the names of the perpetrators. GDS is a small community and the fact that none of the middle schoolers seem to know anything is telling. GDS parents love gossip, and there has been nothing about the perpetrators that is known.
I do believe that this poor child suffered something terrible, but I do wonder if the actual facts of this child’s abuse are being obscured by this child out of fear.

+1 If you were actually a parent at the school when this supposedly was reported, you would know that the family did share it with plenty of families, and based on who it was and how they handled it alone you would know enough to trust that the school did everything right here. The people on here claiming they know anything are sadly liars with nothing better to do with their free time.

I am PP and am a parent of two GDS students, including one in the MS. I feel your anger, frustration, and pain. I really do. I also think that GDS is not negligent here. By no means do I think that the school and the board are perfect, or even great, but in this case I believe the school acted appropriately. I also believe that the child was abused, but not by two GDS middle schoolers. There is just too much that does not make sense here.

I believe the child was abused as well. And agree with your assessment.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If there has god forbid been another incident like this at school in the time GDS sat on this for a year and did nothing, this will open up GDS to great liability including criminal liability.

This is why they should have notified the community in 2025 when this came to light - even to say we have investigated a troubling charge and not found anything. They refused to even do that.....

This is precisely why I am disinclined to believe that GDS was negligent I its response, as others assert. GDS would be litigated to its death if the perpetrators committed another assault. There is no incentive to believe that GDS would sweep an incident this serious under the rug. Also as one PP noted I cannot believe that the rumor mill has not spit out the names of the perpetrators. GDS is a small community and the fact that none of the middle schoolers seem to know anything is telling. GDS parents love gossip, and there has been nothing about the perpetrators that is known.
I do believe that this poor child suffered something terrible, but I do wonder if the actual facts of this child’s abuse are being obscured by this child out of fear.

+1 If you were actually a parent at the school when this supposedly was reported, you would know that the family did share it with plenty of families, and based on who it was and how they handled it alone you would know enough to trust that the school did everything right here. The people on here claiming they know anything are sadly liars with nothing better to do with their free time.

I am PP and am a parent of two GDS students, including one in the MS. I feel your anger, frustration, and pain. I really do. I also think that GDS is not negligent here. By no means do I think that the school and the board are perfect, or even great, but in this case I believe the school acted appropriately. I also believe that the child was abused, but not by two GDS middle schoolers. There is just too much that does not make sense here.

By whom? If by outsiders but inside the school, it would have been crazy. The real question people should ask is: is this school safe to attend?

And if your young child is raped will they be smeared as a liar and a crisis pr firm with pedo ties be brought in as cleanup? Or do they walk the talk of consent culture at GDS? Or use an annual conference as pr and a deflection from the REAL GDS culture we can all see on display?

And if your child is expelled based on an accusation that cannot be proven by evidence?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not a safe school. Not only because of the risk of rape, but also because there was no support whatsoever from the school nor a genuine intention to solve the issue.

They contacted police and hired an independant invetigator.
What else can they do?

The underlying question is whether there was ever even an investigation.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not a safe school. Not only because of the risk of rape, but also because there was no support whatsoever from the school nor a genuine intention to solve the issue.

They contacted police and hired an independant invetigator.
What else can they do?

The underlying question is whether there was ever even an investigation.

This.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not a safe school. Not only because of the risk of rape, but also because there was no support whatsoever from the school nor a genuine intention to solve the issue.

They contacted police and hired an independant invetigator.
What else can they do?

The underlying question is whether there was ever even an investigation.

There was an investigation. Did you not read the story?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If there has god forbid been another incident like this at school in the time GDS sat on this for a year and did nothing, this will open up GDS to great liability including criminal liability.

This is why they should have notified the community in 2025 when this came to light - even to say we have investigated a troubling charge and not found anything. They refused to even do that.....

This is precisely why I am disinclined to believe that GDS was negligent I its response, as others assert. GDS would be litigated to its death if the perpetrators committed another assault. There is no incentive to believe that GDS would sweep an incident this serious under the rug. Also as one PP noted I cannot believe that the rumor mill has not spit out the names of the perpetrators. GDS is a small community and the fact that none of the middle schoolers seem to know anything is telling. GDS parents love gossip, and there has been nothing about the perpetrators that is known.
I do believe that this poor child suffered something terrible, but I do wonder if the actual facts of this child’s abuse are being obscured by this child out of fear.

+1 If you were actually a parent at the school when this supposedly was reported, you would know that the family did share it with plenty of families, and based on who it was and how they handled it alone you would know enough to trust that the school did everything right here. The people on here claiming they know anything are sadly liars with nothing better to do with their free time.

Now we're getting somewhere.

The other elementary school parents didn't like this family and therefore didn't believe them? It sounds like the fixer was hired on purpose because some parts of the class were reflexively against them.

I've seen enough in my years to know that the serial complainers among us usually have a kernal of truth in their complaints and that nobody benefits from reflexivity.

Probably a disturbing kernel of truth in the above.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If there has god forbid been another incident like this at school in the time GDS sat on this for a year and did nothing, this will open up GDS to great liability including criminal liability.

This is why they should have notified the community in 2025 when this came to light - even to say we have investigated a troubling charge and not found anything. They refused to even do that.....

This is precisely why I am disinclined to believe that GDS was negligent I its response, as others assert. GDS would be litigated to its death if the perpetrators committed another assault. There is no incentive to believe that GDS would sweep an incident this serious under the rug. Also as one PP noted I cannot believe that the rumor mill has not spit out the names of the perpetrators. GDS is a small community and the fact that none of the middle schoolers seem to know anything is telling. GDS parents love gossip, and there has been nothing about the perpetrators that is known.
I do believe that this poor child suffered something terrible, but I do wonder if the actual facts of this child’s abuse are being obscured by this child out of fear.

+1 If you were actually a parent at the school when this supposedly was reported, you would know that the family did share it with plenty of families, and based on who it was and how they handled it alone you would know enough to trust that the school did everything right here. The people on here claiming they know anything are sadly liars with nothing better to do with their free time.

Now we're getting somewhere.

The other elementary school parents didn't like this family and therefore didn't believe them? It sounds like the fixer was hired on purpose because some parts of the class were reflexively against them.

I've seen enough in my years to know that the serial complainers among us usually have a kernal of truth in their complaints and that nobody benefits from reflexivity.

Probably a disturbing kernel of truth in the above.

Probably. We've all experienced that dynamic. It happens all the time. Sometimes we're on one side of it and sometimes we're on the other. An accusation of rape is not something to casually dismiss just because we do not like the person making the accusation.

[Anonymous]

Very difficult lesson to learn at 11. And likelihood of being blamed and disbelieved is why so many adults choose not to report sex assault.

If it wasn’t a student at school but a stranger perp off campus the school and community would likely have had a very different reaction.

[Anonymous]

What lessons are the kids drawing about what to do if they are victimized?

The consent summit will just roll on after the meeting with HOS last week?

[Anonymous]

Sometimes, there are horrible situations that have no clean solutions. Based on 41 pages of some valid and some invalid posts, this would appear to be one of them.

A child who claims to have been sexually assaulted deserves to be believed and assumed to be telling the truth. That means that when the kid expresses anything that sets off alarms, all appropriate authorities should be notified and investigations should commence. Any accused should be interviewed, any evidence should be collected and analyzed and any information helpful in the prosecution an offender should be utilized.

However, if there is a delay in reporting, while totally understandable from the victim, the process is complicated. Evidence disappears, details are less clear, memories fade.

In this case, it is possible that the schools and the authorities did what they could with the information present and still had no legal authority to do anything substantive.

The school cannot interview let alone expel nameless students. While the school should absolutely have cameras in public spaces, it’s unclear if they did. If not, or if the delay in reporting eliminated the utility of the cameras, that is not a consideration.

There are multiple thresholds that, in my opinion, need to be hit. First, if the school is going to send an email to all parents saying that an incident of this nature occurred, they need some degree of corroboration or confidence, which they did not have. If the police are going conduct a full investigation and ultimately prosecute, they need evidence, which they did not have.

The situation is horrible but sometimes situations are horrible. It doesn’t make the school, the cops, the parents or random kids culpable.