
Gaetz had sex with 17-year-olds and paid them, according to witnesses, their lawyers, and Venmo receipts. He also moved them from state to state, which is trafficking. |
He also used/shared illegal drugs with them and took photos of them engaged in sex acts. Allegedly. He's basically the white trash version of Diddy. |
The witnesses are false and the story is false. The Biden Doj cleared him and they were certainly no fan of Gaetz |
This. I don't know where PP is posting this article from but it's skipping over the part where Gaetz happily spent a lot of time with Greenberg and attended many events hosted or organized by Greenberg before Greenberg was investigated by the DOJ and wound up pleading guilty. This narrative that Greenberg was actually trying to extort Gaetz the whole time and Gaetz held firm and rejected him doesn't track because if Greenberg were doing that stuff and Gaetz wanted nothing to do with it, why did Gaetz continue to hang out with him for so long? Also we know that Gaetz showed photos and videos of himself in sexual situations with young women with House colleagues on the floor of the House (often without their consent to view that stuff and one of Gaetz's many behaviors that pissed off his caucus and led to the ethics investigation that almost certainly was going to get him booted from Congress if he hadn't resigned). Any narrative that portrays Gaetz as an innocent victim is false -- we KNOW he's a gross pervert, even if some of the allegations against him can't be proven because the witnesses are also gross perverts. Gaetz 100% got himself into this situation by being disgusting and unethical and having poor judgment. And if he gets out of it, it won't be because he's innocent. It will be because he kissed Trump's butt for years and that paid off when Trump won re-election. There is no mystery here. It's not a question of whether Gaetz is qualifed to be AG or whether he did things that are inappropriate or illegal. He's not and he definitely did. The only question is whether our political system can actually hold him to account and prevent him taking this position and if I had to put money on it I'd say "probably not." We'll see though -- the Senate surprised me a few times during Trump I. |
DP. FFS. The Biden DOJ didn't "clear" Gaetz. They decided that they didn't have sufficient evidence to create a likelihood of conviction. BTW, I live in Gaetz's district. He's widely regarded as a scumbag among those in the know. |
Was this from the House Ethics report or from somewhere else? Can't read the NYT article. |
They did not “clear him.” They declined to file charges because they thought the witnesses would have issues before a jury. |
+1 including Ben Domenech who’s MAGA and runs the Federalist. |
It’s from the House Ethics report which has been hacked. |
To be fair, we don't know that he drugged and raped the women. We know that they were using drugs and some were underage - so, a crime, but perhaps a different crime. He also shared photos with other members of Congress, so there may be some legal violations there, too. Also shows him just to be a terrible person. |
That might have been the reason. Or maybe some other reason. We actually don't know. But they definitely didn't clear him. |
So he is innocent till proven guilty. Moving on from this lame thread. |
Okay, bye! Fwiw, this thread isn't about charging Gaetz with a crime. It's about whether he will be the next AG. Or not. |
+1 Even my MAGA acquaintances loathe Gaetz. He is, by all accounts, both a despicable human being and utterly unqualified to be AG. |