Who do you think is going to win and why?

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Anonymous wrote:My sense is that Trump will win. Harris is uninspiring and unintelligent, and the lack of primaries meant that she was never really battle tested. This is on Biden for picking her for VP and on the Democrats for not challenging Biden earlier. There are easily a half dozen other Democrats who ought to have been able to thrash Trump, and we’re left with Harris instead.

So many eloquent and intelligent Dems like Pete, Klobuchar, Whitmer - and we get DEI candidate Harris.

Biden should have not run for a 2nd term and there should have been an open primary.

Even if Harris gets elected, she will be such a colossal failure, that this election will be a test case for years to come.

Of course there should have been an open primary with Biden out of the way but that wasn't Harris' fault and you are underestimating her potential.

I’m Indian and I know something about Indian women.

After watching all her interviews I can confidently say that she will be in the bottom of the ranks among the women I know. She will not lead well. Put quite simply, she is not intelligent or has real world experience.

I am scared for America.

Harris will win because America is scared of what might come with a second Trump term. Our adversaries and enemies saw Trump completely freeze and do nothing for three hours while our government was under attack under his watch a few years ago. Just imagine what another global super power could do on our soil if the Commander-in-Chief of the US Armed Forces takes three hours to muster the courage to lead a counter-attack. Scary stuff!

Only hyperventilating Democrats are scared of a second Trump term. Noise aside, the first Trump term wasn't that bad. The thing to be afraid of in the present moment is the risk that Kamala Harris will become president. She is completely incompetent for the job and will be disastrous for the country.

You're mostly right. His first term wasn't all that bad as far as what actually happened relative to his childish rhetoric. He almost made it to the end of his term without any major event happening that would cause him to show his true colors in action. Unfortunately for him, a mob of hundreds stormed the US Capitol and were roaming the halls looking for prominent leaders to hang a few weeks before the end of his term. That situation brought in the need for Trump to respond immediately as Commander-in-Chief and then Trump proceeded to disqualify himself or as Don Jr. put it "ruin his own legacy" by ignoring all pleas for help and guidance for three hours. That really happened. I'm not a Democrat and I don't think Trump is necessarily evil but I care enough and pay attention enough to realize what he did in that moment is absolutely disqualifying. Not rocket science.

Also am I the only one who remembers how he grossly mismanaged COVID?! SO MANY PEOPLE DIED because of how he handled it - or didn't handle it!

You don't get to say "well he was mostly fine except when we faced the sort of catastrophic crisis we really need leadership for."

And he wasn't mostly fine! But also he had some people around him that first time who didn't LET him do the worst things he wished for. He is not going to have those people around him this time. If you want to see what an unchecked ID looks like, when it holds the nuclear codes, well I think you're wrong - I do not want that, I am sure.

I would actually be curious as to how Democrats think Trump seriously mismanaged Covid. I say that for a couple reasons: (1) He actually did a lot of things that Republicans did not like, caving to the more Democrat-minded restrictions; (2) he helped get the vaccine out pretty quickly, which liberals love; and (3) other countries faired just as bad (just as liberals point to for the inflation issue), and if anything, the countries that did better were ones that just decided to get it over with early with less restrictions, which is something Trump did not do because of pressure from the more progressive side of the aisle.

If you are actually curious, here is what this Democrat (me) think. People like you (and even some Harris voters) have selective amnesia and even Harris herself seem to be strangely reticent about it. here are some things to jog your memory about the utter ineptitude that was Trump's "response", the chaos that unleashed, and how a lot of that could have been avoided. The US had among the highest mortality from Covid among developed countries. A few things that Trump eventually got right were actually unpopular about his base (esp. the vaccine, which was accelerated by some of his decisions), which probably explains why Trump possibly behaves more crazy than he would if he didn't have to pander to his base.
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9115435/
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/trump-white-house-made-deliberate-efforts-undermine-covid-response-report-n1286211
https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2020/politics/trump-covid-pandemic-dark-winter/
https://www.vox.com/2020/6/8/21242003/trump-failed-coronavirus-response

I am under no illusion that any of these links would change MAGA mind, but maybe some Harris supporters who feel they have to stay quiet in the face of the shamelessly revisionist history that MAGA likes to push on Trump's covid response could take something from these. The most important job of a President is to manage a crisis. He failed, swinging wildly between complete denial in the early days (that led to crucial time lost in the early days, down to the shortage of even masks and Tylenol), to blaming Asians (which led his moron fans to attack random Asian people) to downplaying to pushing junk science to debunking true science, spreading rumors and promoting conspiracy theories to undermining governors. He had also disbanded the NSC pandemic unit that had been created by Obama, since the pandemic threat was well-known to those who are actually capable of thinking ahead beyond the attention span of third-graders. BTW, as John Bolton pretends to be reasonable these days, I wonder why people do no ask him about this, since he was the one behind it.
https://apnews.com/article/donald-trump-ap-top-news-virus-outbreak-barack-obama-public-health-ce014d94b64e98b7203b873e56f80e9a

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Anonymous wrote:I think Trump, and I think because voters have a sense of being gaslit by Democrats:

Crime is not down, as anyone who has been robbed in the past four years (after never having been robbed before) and been told that the cops don’t even want to take a report knows. This is also known by all the people who can’t walk into their local drugstore to shop since so many of the goods are under lock and key.

Immigration is not an untrammeled good, as anyone who lives in a mostly lower-income community, especially with kids in public schools, knows.

Inflation is not mostly under control, as anyone who has to watch a grocery budget closely knows.

Boys who want to take the spot of girls and have access to girls’ private and safe spaces are not the victims and are not more important than those girls, as anyone with a minimal amount of common sense and respect for girls knows.

Spreading US military resources out around the world makes the US more vulnerable, not less vulnerable, as anyone who has studied military history knows.

Leaning in hard on identity as being the single most important aspect of a person is just an effective and corporate-backed anti-labor move, as anyone who has noticed that all the corporations with their millions spent on DEI somehow neglect to support the creation of a “Lower Class” internal affinity group.

And so on.

The Republicans lie all the time too, but they don’t make their lies out to be fundamental truths the same way. The Democrats have adopted all these positions with the fervor of evangelicals. It is a demand for belief, not just a policy statement. And people don’t like being ordered to believe truths they feel in their bones aren’t true.

You make some great points and I too agree with some of Trump's policies relative to the stance Dem politicians have on those same policies. Policy is absolutely important but nothing is more important than the integrity and courage of a POTUS when it comes to following through on the most important role they swear to carry out when they take the Oath of Office. They swear to do everything in their power 24 hours a day, 7 days a week to protect the country and our people as Commander-in-Chief. There is very clear and obvious proof of Trump's failure to follow though on what he and all other presidents swore to do when they took the Oath of Office.

Sorry, policies mean nothing when a POTUS candidate showed the world he was a coward and wouldn't defend the country when he had the job previously.

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Anonymous wrote:And ordered to believe those truths at the expense of their livelihoods. At my job we were encouraged to write DEI statements and add pronouns. My boss said it wasn't required but "would be considered in all advancement path decisions."
Every doctor at my hospital was required to take the knee for a stupid photo op in summer 2020.

I have a very hard time believing this. I have been in federal service for 15 years (today is my compressed day off) and this is not a thing in my agency nor is it with any of my colleagues. In my org (this is under the Biden administration, mind you) there is virtually no mention of DEI and we are not being asked to write "DEI statements" and it is absolutely not a "consideration in advancement path" and in fact any manager who did do this, or absolutely "required" someone to "take a knee" would face scrutiny and calls for their firing.

I think some of the MAGA posters here have greatly distorted ideas about what they think is happening out in the world, and attempt to give fake anecdotes to try and project it.

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First, the LA times, now this. I think it’s safe to say people have no faith in Harris.

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Anonymous wrote:Wow, the Post decided not to endorse Kamala. Now, would this be happening if she were on pace to win?

40 out of 44 of Trump's former Cabinet officials decided not to endorse Trump. Yet somehow that's not meaningful because somehow people who worked every day with Trump on important matters and saw how he behaves and acts, in person, as first-hand witnesses somehow are poorer judges of Trump's character and fitness to lead, than random folks out in the red counties who have never even met the man and only know him by whatever curated sound bites conservative media has fed him.

And that's why he has a shot at winning...? Make it make sense.

An overwhelming majority of Trump's own inner circle feels he is unfit to lead. Please, MAGAs - explain to me how you know better than they do.

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I’m so F’ing SICK AND TIRED of hearing people complaining about the price of groceries. That sh!t is so played out it’s pathetic.

And really, why are we placing so much power in the hands of low income earners who clearly haven’t achieved much in life and are now complaining that hamburger helper is too expensive? Gee, I dunno, maybe you should’ve applied yourself a bit more in school and made something of yourself so the price of groceries aren’t a backbreaker for you?

I am going to have to copy this and save it somewhere -- to roll out on election night as Exhibit A as to why Trump won. Is this really how deeply buried some people have their heads in the sand, when it comes to inflation? Is this this really how Harris voters think an economy works?

I just took the day off work to run several errands. One stop was to a cobbler to have some shoes resoled. Another was to a clockmaker to drop off a wristwatch to be cleaned and oiled. And then I had an appointment for a mason to come by the house and replace some grout that has cracked and fallen out of the stonework on the house, before winter hits with freezing rain. And I probably shared the streets with several hundred truck drivers, delivering loads of food and fuel and other goods. These kind of tradespeople are the foundation of our economy and represent the majority of workers in a healthy economy.

Oh, and the final errand was to the grocery store. I try to cook most everything from scratch for the family, and I like King Arthur flour. A 4# bag that was $4.99 in 2018 is now even higher today -- up from $6.49 this summer to $6.99 now. Eggs, orange juice, vegetables, etc. are all up a similar percent from 2018.

Does the poster above really think the cobbler, horologist or stonemason "didn't make something" of their life? Is that how pathetic this person's worldview is?

What about the person working at a flour mill. Are they also a loser? Does this poster above think that everyone in a country can get a PhD and then 100% of the economy simply magically makes lots of money, and everyone lives well without anyone actually producing goods or services?

Someone who had the privilege to take off to visit a clockmaker and a cobbler before having a mason come to their house is lecturing about how others live

It’s a fake poster. The cobbler, the watchmaker, horologist, stonemason— oh my, and King Arthur flour. I’m laughing way too hard. Look at his rally supporters. They look like zombies, all glassy eyed, exhausted from bobbing their signs up and down. His little accordion hands hypnotizing them for hours on end. Same words over and over and over with no context.

Nothing about Trump, his family, rally attendees, or supporters is refined. Tucker Carlson is unrefined and shares Trump’s fantasy, likening him to a "dad" who spanks his "bad little girl.” Sick and demented. You know who I see right now at her Georgia rally? A refined, intelligent, fierce woman who would never stoop to the repulsiveness of the republicans.

DP. That you apparently think Harris supporters are... "refined," just speaks volumes about you. Megan Thee Stallion twerking onstage at a rally is beyond unrefined. Her supporters lapping up that performance are unrefined. Talk about zombies.

Yes, her twerking on the stage is when she lost my vote.

Not surprising at all, given her fast track legal CA history.

Is this becoming Norm for our politics now. Horrible

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Anonymous wrote:First, the LA times, now this. I think it’s safe to say people have no faith in Harris.

Has a lot more to do with conservatives taking over most of the media.

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Harris for a few reasons.

1) She is significantly younger vs Trump. Trumps age is a problem.

2) Harris has a highly developed and well funded ground game in all the swing state. Ground game wins elections. It is worth 2-3% and Trump has no ground game. This means if it is even in the polls(which it is not) the better ground will win. Trump has no ground game none.

3) Trump is extremely negative, talks negatively about the US and everyone living in it. The majority of Americans are not dark, mean and hate filled.

4) Trump rambling speeches spend too much time on his opponents vs actually selling himself. You only have a limited time in front of voters. Talking about how bad your competition is never works in sales. Also his attacks on Harris really have not landed any hits(remember Little Marco, etc).

5) Trump has a huge unfavorable rating(just like Hillary did).

6) People tired of Trump.

7) Running a campaign on fear and anger is hard. You have to keep the level of fear and anger high. After 8-9 years of this the Trump people are not able to maintain the high level of hate and anger.

8) She destroyed him in the debate.

9) Trump lies.

You can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you can not fool all of the people all of the time.”

― Abraham Lincoln

10) Harris is running even or up by huge margin on the issues. Add in Jan 6, Trump hate of the military, most of Trump’s staff have denounced him, abortion, etc.

11) Listen to Trump speak. Every time he does he loses votes.

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Wow. WaPo is not endorsing Harris. That is not good.

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Anonymous wrote:First, the LA times, now this. I think it’s safe to say people have no faith in Harris.

No they don’t want to be murdered by Trump and his generals!

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Anonymous wrote:And ordered to believe those truths at the expense of their livelihoods. At my job we were encouraged to write DEI statements and add pronouns. My boss said it wasn't required but "would be considered in all advancement path decisions."
Every doctor at my hospital was required to take the knee for a stupid photo op in summer 2020.

This was rampant in many professional environments and no one dared to so much as think to push back. Interesting times those were up until day beginning of 2023.

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Anonymous wrote:First, the LA times, now this. I think it’s safe to say people have no faith in Harris.

Has a lot more to do with conservatives taking over most of the media.

Bezos has owned the Post for more than a decade! Do you read that rag? It is as far left as you can get for a supposed MSM outlet.

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Anonymous wrote:First, the LA times, now this. I think it’s safe to say people have no faith in Harris.

No they don’t want to be murdered by Trump and his generals!

Yeah, your side is the side that is shooting people. Keep up the rhetoric and you might just get your wish.

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If Trump wins, we have to realize that the problem is much more serious than Trump himself. We have a truly diseased society, and it's not like this hasn't happened anywhere before in current times or past history. He could only pull this off if people were capable of being this deluded. So, this election is a referenfum on our American culture, actually.

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Anonymous wrote:Harris for a few reasons.

1) She is significantly younger vs Trump. Trumps age is a problem.

2) Harris has a highly developed and well funded ground game in all the swing state. Ground game wins elections. It is worth 2-3% and Trump has no ground game. This means if it is even in the polls(which it is not) the better ground will win. Trump has no ground game none.

3) Trump is extremely negative, talks negatively about the US and everyone living in it. The majority of Americans are not dark, mean and hate filled.

4) Trump rambling speeches spend too much time on his opponents vs actually selling himself. You only have a limited time in front of voters. Talking about how bad your competition is never works in sales. Also his attacks on Harris really have not landed any hits(remember Little Marco, etc).

5) Trump has a huge unfavorable rating(just like Hillary did).

6) People tired of Trump.

7) Running a campaign on fear and anger is hard. You have to keep the level of fear and anger high. After 8-9 years of this the Trump people are not able to maintain the high level of hate and anger.

8) She destroyed him in the debate.

9) Trump lies.

You can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you can not fool all of the people all of the time.”

― Abraham Lincoln

10) Harris is running even or up by huge margin on the issues. Add in Jan 6, Trump hate of the military, most of Trump’s staff have denounced him, abortion, etc.

11) Listen to Trump speak. Every time he does he loses votes.

You could shorten this post down to Trump had the job previously and while on the job went AWOL for three hours while a mob of hundreds roamed our Capitol Building halls looking for prominent leaders to "hang" and it would be just as effective. This is the most significant reason he shouldn't be POTUS and it's also something that was proven without a shadow of doubt so nothing much else needs to be said.