FCPS comprehensive boundary review

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Anonymous wrote:What I would like to see is that kids who live in Falls Church should NOT go to McLean HS. They should go to Falls Church HS because McLean is already crowded. Then again, it is not likely to happen because those parents will cry foul that their homes value will plummet.

Falls Church kids go to Meridian. There is no census-designated Falls Church, Fairfax County location. There is a West Falls Church that is south of 50. There is a McLean designated place that includes two high schools but does not have enough kids to fill both.

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Anonymous wrote:I think the homes really vulnerable to redistricting is the Mozaic part of Oakton High School. Look at the Falls Church HS versus Oakton HS geography / district. In that area, they intertwine like fingers on two hands.

I deliberately avoided the Riveradale (I think that is the name?) area currently districted for Braddock, and the areas of Mozaic ES closest to Inova Fairfax Hospital. With the addition and renovation of the Falls Church HS, one of them will be moved back - or possibly Mozaic to Falls Church HS, and Riverdale to Annandale HS where it used to be 20 years ago.

Oakton HS sits within the Mosaic ES catchment area, so why would any part of Mosaic get moved to Falls Church HS? It wasn’t that long ago that area got pulled out of Jackson MS and moved to Thoreau MS.

The county is expanding Falls Church HS for a reason. I just look at that weird little "finger" of their district coming up to the Mozaic district, and cannot help but think that the easiest way to increase achievement in FCHS is to redistrict a part of Mozaic there. These townhouses / houses tend to be lower cost and primarily occupied by immigrants, giving a combination of lower influence and higher achievement that the country would want to move around.

Another possibility is that part of Marshall HS would be redistricted to FCHS.

I don't think the county would do anything that lowers the FARMS rate at Oakton and raises it at FCHS

It definitely will not raise the FARMS rate at FCHS, and I suspect it would remain steady at Oakton.

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Anonymous wrote:This is all speculation. Nothing has been announced yet. Maybe take a deep breath and wait to see what the school board proposes.

Yeah, just sit back and hope for the best. The school board always does the right thing.

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Anonymous wrote:This is all speculation. Nothing has been announced yet. Maybe take a deep breath and wait to see what the school board proposes.

Yeah, just sit back and hope for the best. The school board always does the right thing.

Honestly, the only people to possibly benefit from the speculation are folks in the market for a new home.
Otherwise, it's out of our hands.

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Anonymous wrote:This is all speculation. Nothing has been announced yet. Maybe take a deep breath and wait to see what the school board proposes.

Sandy Anderson says nothing to see here, even though they are in record saying all pyramids will be impacted.

They want you to be quiet until the maps are drawn and it’s too late to stop them.

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Anonymous wrote:What I would like to see is that kids who live in Falls Church should NOT go to McLean HS. They should go to Falls Church HS because McLean is already crowded. Then again, it is not likely to happen because those parents will cry foul that their homes value will plummet.

That's the case for most of the redistricting. There is a reason that it's been a third rail for years

The county is expanding the FCHS building. SOMEONE will end up going there.

There are a few candidates, and this is one of them.

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Anonymous wrote:I think the homes really vulnerable to redistricting is the Mozaic part of Oakton High School. Look at the Falls Church HS versus Oakton HS geography / district. In that area, they intertwine like fingers on two hands.

I deliberately avoided the Riveradale (I think that is the name?) area currently districted for Braddock, and the areas of Mozaic ES closest to Inova Fairfax Hospital. With the addition and renovation of the Falls Church HS, one of them will be moved back - or possibly Mozaic to Falls Church HS, and Riverdale to Annandale HS where it used to be 20 years ago.

Oakton HS sits within the Mosaic ES catchment area, so why would any part of Mosaic get moved to Falls Church HS? It wasn’t that long ago that area got pulled out of Jackson MS and moved to Thoreau MS.

The county is expanding Falls Church HS for a reason. I just look at that weird little "finger" of their district coming up to the Mozaic district, and cannot help but think that the easiest way to increase achievement in FCHS is to redistrict a part of Mozaic there. These townhouses / houses tend to be lower cost and primarily occupied by immigrants, giving a combination of lower influence and higher achievement that the country would want to move around.

Another possibility is that part of Marshall HS would be redistricted to FCHS.

I don't think the county would do anything that lowers the FARMS rate at Oakton and raises it at FCHS

It definitely will not raise the FARMS rate at FCHS, and I suspect it would remain steady at Oakton.

Mosiac is 25% farms, Oakton is 15. Removing Mosiac would lower Oakton's rate. I really don't see the county doing anything that would lower the FARMs rate of any school that already has a sub 20% rate.

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Anonymous wrote:This is all speculation. Nothing has been announced yet. Maybe take a deep breath and wait to see what the school board proposes.

Sandy Anderson says nothing to see here, even though they are in record saying all pyramids will be impacted.

They want you to be quiet until the maps are drawn and it’s too late to stop them.

How do you propose to stop them now?

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Anonymous wrote:I think the homes really vulnerable to redistricting is the Mozaic part of Oakton High School. Look at the Falls Church HS versus Oakton HS geography / district. In that area, they intertwine like fingers on two hands.

I deliberately avoided the Riveradale (I think that is the name?) area currently districted for Braddock, and the areas of Mozaic ES closest to Inova Fairfax Hospital. With the addition and renovation of the Falls Church HS, one of them will be moved back - or possibly Mozaic to Falls Church HS, and Riverdale to Annandale HS where it used to be 20 years ago.

Oakton HS sits within the Mosaic ES catchment area, so why would any part of Mosaic get moved to Falls Church HS? It wasn’t that long ago that area got pulled out of Jackson MS and moved to Thoreau MS.

The county is expanding Falls Church HS for a reason. I just look at that weird little "finger" of their district coming up to the Mozaic district, and cannot help but think that the easiest way to increase achievement in FCHS is to redistrict a part of Mozaic there. These townhouses / houses tend to be lower cost and primarily occupied by immigrants, giving a combination of lower influence and higher achievement that the country would want to move around.

Another possibility is that part of Marshall HS would be redistricted to FCHS.

I don't think the county would do anything that lowers the FARMS rate at Oakton and raises it at FCHS

It definitely will not raise the FARMS rate at FCHS, and I suspect it would remain steady at Oakton.

Mosiac is 25% farms, Oakton is 15. Removing Mosiac would lower Oakton's rate. I really don't see the county doing anything that would lower the FARMs rate of any school that already has a sub 20% rate.

I think that will be the math for any of the candidate areas to flow into FCHS. Someone will clearly be moved to FCHS because the county is expanding the building.

Could be Mozaic (or part of Mozaic), could be part of Marshall HS, could be part of McLean HS (that one is least likely in my mind because that would only leave very affluent areas attending McLean HS... I think a part of their far away demographic would be channeled to either South lakes or Herndon HS instead)

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Anonymous wrote:What I would like to see is that kids who live in Falls Church should NOT go to McLean HS. They should go to Falls Church HS because McLean is already crowded. Then again, it is not likely to happen because those parents will cry foul that their homes value will plummet.

Uh huh. In that case maybe the kids in McLean who go to Longfellow should get the boot since Longfellow is in Falls Church.

Langley and McLean are both in McLean, and kids who live outside McLean can and should continue to attend both schools.

I would be more than happy that McLean kids get booted from Longfellow and kids from Falls Church get booted from McLean HS. Make McLean HS a secondary school like Robinson or Lake Braddock for ONLY McLean residents only. I am going to bet that it will make a lot of unhappy Falls Church residents because more homes value outside of McLean will take a big hit.

This will never happen, nor should it. And, if it did, which it won’t, it would have a negative impact on home values in the part of McLean stuck with this runt secondary school (the rest of McLean would still go to Langley).

Not worth discussing further.

I live in McLean and I am more than happy to be stuck with this runt secondary school. Other McLean residents can go to Langley, and that is fine with me.

That's the reason why McLean HS still has trailers next to the baseball field because of kids from Falls Church that attend McLean HS. In other words, people who live in Falls Church that pay less in property taxes to take advantage of the system. The board probably will not do anything about it due to PC, DEI, and so on. Absolutely disgusting.

The Falls Church residents in the county pay the same property tax rate as you, and many are also in the “McLean Tax District” that pays the additional surcharge to fund the MCC, Old Firehouse, etc. It’s quite arbitrary, in fact, whether many of these houses are in 22043 as opposed to the 22101 zip code.

Again, this is a non-starter.

They pay the same tax rate but there is a big difference in the amount of tax for a 3M home in McLean vs. a 700K home in Falls Church. It is like saying the Toyota Camry is the same as the Lexus LX570.

$3M homes in McLean tend to be zoned for Langley and $700K homes in Falls Church tend to be zoned for Falls Church or Justice. Most houses in McLean and Falls Church zoned to McLean fall in the middle, so your comparison falls flat.

I live in McLean next to Lewinsville park, and my home is about 4M. It is right across from the about to be finished assisted living home, and about 5 minutes walk to McLean HS.

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Anonymous wrote:I think the homes really vulnerable to redistricting is the Mozaic part of Oakton High School. Look at the Falls Church HS versus Oakton HS geography / district. In that area, they intertwine like fingers on two hands.

I deliberately avoided the Riveradale (I think that is the name?) area currently districted for Braddock, and the areas of Mozaic ES closest to Inova Fairfax Hospital. With the addition and renovation of the Falls Church HS, one of them will be moved back - or possibly Mozaic to Falls Church HS, and Riverdale to Annandale HS where it used to be 20 years ago.

Oakton HS sits within the Mosaic ES catchment area, so why would any part of Mosaic get moved to Falls Church HS? It wasn’t that long ago that area got pulled out of Jackson MS and moved to Thoreau MS.

The county is expanding Falls Church HS for a reason. I just look at that weird little "finger" of their district coming up to the Mozaic district, and cannot help but think that the easiest way to increase achievement in FCHS is to redistrict a part of Mozaic there. These townhouses / houses tend to be lower cost and primarily occupied by immigrants, giving a combination of lower influence and higher achievement that the country would want to move around.

Another possibility is that part of Marshall HS would be redistricted to FCHS.

I don't think the county would do anything that lowers the FARMS rate at Oakton and raises it at FCHS

It definitely will not raise the FARMS rate at FCHS, and I suspect it would remain steady at Oakton.

Mosiac is 25% farms, Oakton is 15. Removing Mosiac would lower Oakton's rate. I really don't see the county doing anything that would lower the FARMs rate of any school that already has a sub 20% rate.

I think that will be the math for any of the candidate areas to flow into FCHS. Someone will clearly be moved to FCHS because the county is expanding the building.

Could be Mozaic (or part of Mozaic), could be part of Marshall HS, could be part of McLean HS (that one is least likely in my mind because that would only leave very affluent areas attending McLean HS... I think a part of their far away demographic would be channeled to either South lakes or Herndon HS instead)

They could pull from McLean proper

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Anonymous wrote:This is all speculation. Nothing has been announced yet. Maybe take a deep breath and wait to see what the school board proposes.

Sandy Anderson says nothing to see here, even though they are in record saying all pyramids will be impacted.

They want you to be quiet until the maps are drawn and it’s too late to stop them.

How do you propose to stop them now?

Perhaps it’s too late.

But at the very least, it’ll be worthwhile to let them know that it is political career suicide.

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Anonymous wrote:I think the homes really vulnerable to redistricting is the Mozaic part of Oakton High School. Look at the Falls Church HS versus Oakton HS geography / district. In that area, they intertwine like fingers on two hands.

I deliberately avoided the Riveradale (I think that is the name?) area currently districted for Braddock, and the areas of Mozaic ES closest to Inova Fairfax Hospital. With the addition and renovation of the Falls Church HS, one of them will be moved back - or possibly Mozaic to Falls Church HS, and Riverdale to Annandale HS where it used to be 20 years ago.

Oakton HS sits within the Mosaic ES catchment area, so why would any part of Mosaic get moved to Falls Church HS? It wasn’t that long ago that area got pulled out of Jackson MS and moved to Thoreau MS.

The county is expanding Falls Church HS for a reason. I just look at that weird little "finger" of their district coming up to the Mozaic district, and cannot help but think that the easiest way to increase achievement in FCHS is to redistrict a part of Mozaic there. These townhouses / houses tend to be lower cost and primarily occupied by immigrants, giving a combination of lower influence and higher achievement that the country would want to move around.

Another possibility is that part of Marshall HS would be redistricted to FCHS.

I don't think the county would do anything that lowers the FARMS rate at Oakton and raises it at FCHS

It definitely will not raise the FARMS rate at FCHS, and I suspect it would remain steady at Oakton.

Mosiac is 25% farms, Oakton is 15. Removing Mosiac would lower Oakton's rate. I really don't see the county doing anything that would lower the FARMs rate of any school that already has a sub 20% rate.

I think that will be the math for any of the candidate areas to flow into FCHS. Someone will clearly be moved to FCHS because the county is expanding the building.

Could be Mozaic (or part of Mozaic), could be part of Marshall HS, could be part of McLean HS (that one is least likely in my mind because that would only leave very affluent areas attending McLean HS... I think a part of their far away demographic would be channeled to either South lakes or Herndon HS instead)

They could pull from McLean proper

I mean, discontinuous districts are always an option, but I view it as less likely.

I lived through the redistricting in Gaithersburg right before COVID. The eventual map surprised all of us, and was not one of the maps presented during the initial hearings. It was developed quietly last minute and voted in before anyone could say anything.

After COVID, we moved to Fairfax and bought in Fairfax City. I am never living through THAT again. Thank you.

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Anonymous wrote:I think the homes really vulnerable to redistricting is the Mozaic part of Oakton High School. Look at the Falls Church HS versus Oakton HS geography / district. In that area, they intertwine like fingers on two hands.

I deliberately avoided the Riveradale (I think that is the name?) area currently districted for Braddock, and the areas of Mozaic ES closest to Inova Fairfax Hospital. With the addition and renovation of the Falls Church HS, one of them will be moved back - or possibly Mozaic to Falls Church HS, and Riverdale to Annandale HS where it used to be 20 years ago.

Oakton HS sits within the Mosaic ES catchment area, so why would any part of Mosaic get moved to Falls Church HS? It wasn’t that long ago that area got pulled out of Jackson MS and moved to Thoreau MS.

The county is expanding Falls Church HS for a reason. I just look at that weird little "finger" of their district coming up to the Mozaic district, and cannot help but think that the easiest way to increase achievement in FCHS is to redistrict a part of Mozaic there. These townhouses / houses tend to be lower cost and primarily occupied by immigrants, giving a combination of lower influence and higher achievement that the country would want to move around.

Another possibility is that part of Marshall HS would be redistricted to FCHS.

I don't think the county would do anything that lowers the FARMS rate at Oakton and raises it at FCHS

It definitely will not raise the FARMS rate at FCHS, and I suspect it would remain steady at Oakton.

Mosiac is 25% farms, Oakton is 15. Removing Mosiac would lower Oakton's rate. I really don't see the county doing anything that would lower the FARMs rate of any school that already has a sub 20% rate.

I think that will be the math for any of the candidate areas to flow into FCHS. Someone will clearly be moved to FCHS because the county is expanding the building.

Could be Mozaic (or part of Mozaic), could be part of Marshall HS, could be part of McLean HS (that one is least likely in my mind because that would only leave very affluent areas attending McLean HS... I think a part of their far away demographic would be channeled to either South lakes or Herndon HS instead)

The board’s primary objective has been to reduce attendance islands and send kids to their neighborhood schools. They even removed language that discussed balancing by socioeconomic criteria. It would be very difficult to justify keeping an attendance island AND split feeder, which is located closer to two other high schools, one of which will have a surplus in capacity once its renovations are complete.

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Anonymous wrote:This is all speculation. Nothing has been announced yet. Maybe take a deep breath and wait to see what the school board proposes.

Sandy Anderson says nothing to see here, even though they are in record saying all pyramids will be impacted.

They want you to be quiet until the maps are drawn and it’s too late to stop them.

How do you propose to stop them now?

Perhaps it’s too late.

But at the very least, it’ll be worthwhile to let them know that it is political career suicide.

The people on the BOE in MCPS, who voted last minute to take a starter home, largely immigrant community of newly built homes (about 1/2 were unfinished, but deposits were already in) and move it to the most dysfunctional school pyramid in MoCo, all remained on the board.

Half the people in that subdivision did not even have a right to vote, and the rest of the grateful county chose to keep the board unchanged. Their careers will be fine, and as I learned from that experience, BOE will do what it wants, but will likely target the areas where friends and family of the BOE members are unlikely to live.

Hence my vote is for part of Mozaic ES to be moved to FCHS, but I may well be wrong.