Connecticut Ave bike lanes are back!

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Anonymous wrote:Actually I would think that bike lane advocates would welcome strict enforcement of cycling regulations and establishing new ones that take into consideration all commuters not just cyclists. After all safety is what’s important here right?

sure, you can enforce a bike rider harmlessly going through a red (often this is safer for the rider, but I digress) as soon as you give tickets to every single car rolling through stop signs. Cars literally never come to a full stop unless there is cross traffic.

A bicyclist going through a stop sign at full speed is far more dangerous than a car that you think didn't technically, 100 percent completely stop at a stop sign. It's disingenuous to pretend they're the same thing.

That why there are so many people killed by bicyclists and not people driving cars. Oh nevermind, the data says it's the opposite. Huh.

There would be many more if there were more cyclists, and the last cyclist killed in DC was killed by …. ANOTHER CYCLIST.

But, bro: drivers hate you, pedestrians hate you, and even other cyclists hate you. Maybe it’s time for you ask AITA?

get a grip. I don’t know what kind of psychodrama the sight of a bike triggers in you, but it’s really weird.

You hate it when people bring up facts that don’t fit your narrative. Sorry, bro. Facts are facts. The last cyclist killed in DC was in fact killed by another cyclist.

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Anonymous wrote:Actually I would think that bike lane advocates would welcome strict enforcement of cycling regulations and establishing new ones that take into consideration all commuters not just cyclists. After all safety is what’s important here right?

sure, you can enforce a bike rider harmlessly going through a red (often this is safer for the rider, but I digress) as soon as you give tickets to every single car rolling through stop signs. Cars literally never come to a full stop unless there is cross traffic.

A bicyclist going through a stop sign at full speed is far more dangerous than a car that you think didn't technically, 100 percent completely stop at a stop sign. It's disingenuous to pretend they're the same thing.

That why there are so many people killed by bicyclists and not people driving cars. Oh nevermind, the data says it's the opposite. Huh.

There would be many more if there were more cyclists, and the last cyclist killed in DC was killed by …. ANOTHER CYCLIST.

But, bro: drivers hate you, pedestrians hate you, and even other cyclists hate you. Maybe it’s time for you ask AITA?

get a grip. I don’t know what kind of psychodrama the sight of a bike triggers in you, but it’s really weird.

You hate it when people bring up facts that don’t fit your narrative. Sorry, bro. Facts are facts. The last cyclist killed in DC was in fact killed by another cyclist.

https://mpdc.dc.gov/release/mpd-investigating-fatal-e-bike-crash-northwest

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Anonymous wrote:Actually I would think that bike lane advocates would welcome strict enforcement of cycling regulations and establishing new ones that take into consideration all commuters not just cyclists. After all safety is what’s important here right?

sure, you can enforce a bike rider harmlessly going through a red (often this is safer for the rider, but I digress) as soon as you give tickets to every single car rolling through stop signs. Cars literally never come to a full stop unless there is cross traffic.

A bicyclist going through a stop sign at full speed is far more dangerous than a car that you think didn't technically, 100 percent completely stop at a stop sign. It's disingenuous to pretend they're the same thing.

That why there are so many people killed by bicyclists and not people driving cars. Oh nevermind, the data says it's the opposite. Huh.

There would be many more if there were more cyclists, and the last cyclist killed in DC was killed by …. ANOTHER CYCLIST.

But, bro: drivers hate you, pedestrians hate you, and even other cyclists hate you. Maybe it’s time for you ask AITA?

get a grip. I don’t know what kind of psychodrama the sight of a bike triggers in you, but it’s really weird.

You hate it when people bring up facts that don’t fit your narrative. Sorry, bro. Facts are facts. The last cyclist killed in DC was in fact killed by another cyclist.

DP. This is obviously a tragedy, and I hope the police prosecute the surviving rider if she violated the law.

But I also don't think the fact that there was a fatal bike crash involving another bike means that's the only thing anyone needs to ever think about related to making it safer to ride a bike in D.C. You would not, for instance, say that the homicide by stabbing committed in southwest D.C. in April means the police should never worry about gun crimes.

Using this horrible death as some sort of weird cudgel or gotcha over public policy questions that long predate this incident doesn't really make it seem like you care any more about the man who died in this crash than the people you're hectoring about it.

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Anonymous wrote:Actually I would think that bike lane advocates would welcome strict enforcement of cycling regulations and establishing new ones that take into consideration all commuters not just cyclists. After all safety is what’s important here right?

sure, you can enforce a bike rider harmlessly going through a red (often this is safer for the rider, but I digress) as soon as you give tickets to every single car rolling through stop signs. Cars literally never come to a full stop unless there is cross traffic.

A bicyclist going through a stop sign at full speed is far more dangerous than a car that you think didn't technically, 100 percent completely stop at a stop sign. It's disingenuous to pretend they're the same thing.

That why there are so many people killed by bicyclists and not people driving cars. Oh nevermind, the data says it's the opposite. Huh.

There would be many more if there were more cyclists, and the last cyclist killed in DC was killed by …. ANOTHER CYCLIST.

But, bro: drivers hate you, pedestrians hate you, and even other cyclists hate you. Maybe it’s time for you ask AITA?

get a grip. I don’t know what kind of psychodrama the sight of a bike triggers in you, but it’s really weird.

You hate it when people bring up facts that don’t fit your narrative. Sorry, bro. Facts are facts. The last cyclist killed in DC was in fact killed by another cyclist.

It’s fascinating that there has been no vigils, no rallies at the Wilson Building, no commemorative rides, no ghost bike, nothing. Just radio silence from the bike activists hoping that people won’t notice. It’s reveals what a shallow pathetic con this whole charade is.

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Anonymous wrote:Actually I would think that bike lane advocates would welcome strict enforcement of cycling regulations and establishing new ones that take into consideration all commuters not just cyclists. After all safety is what’s important here right?

sure, you can enforce a bike rider harmlessly going through a red (often this is safer for the rider, but I digress) as soon as you give tickets to every single car rolling through stop signs. Cars literally never come to a full stop unless there is cross traffic.

A bicyclist going through a stop sign at full speed is far more dangerous than a car that you think didn't technically, 100 percent completely stop at a stop sign. It's disingenuous to pretend they're the same thing.

That why there are so many people killed by bicyclists and not people driving cars. Oh nevermind, the data says it's the opposite. Huh.

There would be many more if there were more cyclists, and the last cyclist killed in DC was killed by …. ANOTHER CYCLIST.

But, bro: drivers hate you, pedestrians hate you, and even other cyclists hate you. Maybe it’s time for you ask AITA?

get a grip. I don’t know what kind of psychodrama the sight of a bike triggers in you, but it’s really weird.

You hate it when people bring up facts that don’t fit your narrative. Sorry, bro. Facts are facts. The last cyclist killed in DC was in fact killed by another cyclist.

DP. This is obviously a tragedy, and I hope the police prosecute the surviving rider if she violated the law.

But I also don't think the fact that there was a fatal bike crash involving another bike means that's the only thing anyone needs to ever think about related to making it safer to ride a bike in D.C. You would not, for instance, say that the homicide by stabbing committed in southwest D.C. in April means the police should never worry about gun crimes.

Using this horrible death as some sort of weird cudgel or gotcha over public policy questions that long predate this incident doesn't really make it seem like you care any more about the man who died in this crash than the people you're hectoring about it.

DP. The “gotcha” is your rank hypocrisy.

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Anonymous wrote:Actually I would think that bike lane advocates would welcome strict enforcement of cycling regulations and establishing new ones that take into consideration all commuters not just cyclists. After all safety is what’s important here right?

sure, you can enforce a bike rider harmlessly going through a red (often this is safer for the rider, but I digress) as soon as you give tickets to every single car rolling through stop signs. Cars literally never come to a full stop unless there is cross traffic.

A bicyclist going through a stop sign at full speed is far more dangerous than a car that you think didn't technically, 100 percent completely stop at a stop sign. It's disingenuous to pretend they're the same thing.

That why there are so many people killed by bicyclists and not people driving cars. Oh nevermind, the data says it's the opposite. Huh.

There would be many more if there were more cyclists, and the last cyclist killed in DC was killed by …. ANOTHER CYCLIST.

But, bro: drivers hate you, pedestrians hate you, and even other cyclists hate you. Maybe it’s time for you ask AITA?

get a grip. I don’t know what kind of psychodrama the sight of a bike triggers in you, but it’s really weird.

You hate it when people bring up facts that don’t fit your narrative. Sorry, bro. Facts are facts. The last cyclist killed in DC was in fact killed by another cyclist.

DP. This is obviously a tragedy, and I hope the police prosecute the surviving rider if she violated the law.

But I also don't think the fact that there was a fatal bike crash involving another bike means that's the only thing anyone needs to ever think about related to making it safer to ride a bike in D.C. You would not, for instance, say that the homicide by stabbing committed in southwest D.C. in April means the police should never worry about gun crimes.

Using this horrible death as some sort of weird cudgel or gotcha over public policy questions that long predate this incident doesn't really make it seem like you care any more about the man who died in this crash than the people you're hectoring about it.

DP. The “gotcha” is your rank hypocrisy.

What part makes me a hypocrite, exactly? I've never attended a rally or vigil for anyone killed on a bike. I said I hope the police prosecute the woman involved in the crash. That's basically also what my reaction was the last time someone was killed on a bike. Not totally sure what you want me to do about this particular tragedy, but if I did do something about it, it'd be the most I've ever done about a cyclist dying.

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Anonymous wrote:Actually I would think that bike lane advocates would welcome strict enforcement of cycling regulations and establishing new ones that take into consideration all commuters not just cyclists. After all safety is what’s important here right?

sure, you can enforce a bike rider harmlessly going through a red (often this is safer for the rider, but I digress) as soon as you give tickets to every single car rolling through stop signs. Cars literally never come to a full stop unless there is cross traffic.

A bicyclist going through a stop sign at full speed is far more dangerous than a car that you think didn't technically, 100 percent completely stop at a stop sign. It's disingenuous to pretend they're the same thing.

That why there are so many people killed by bicyclists and not people driving cars. Oh nevermind, the data says it's the opposite. Huh.

There would be many more if there were more cyclists, and the last cyclist killed in DC was killed by …. ANOTHER CYCLIST.

But, bro: drivers hate you, pedestrians hate you, and even other cyclists hate you. Maybe it’s time for you ask AITA?

get a grip. I don’t know what kind of psychodrama the sight of a bike triggers in you, but it’s really weird.

You hate it when people bring up facts that don’t fit your narrative. Sorry, bro. Facts are facts. The last cyclist killed in DC was in fact killed by another cyclist.

It’s fascinating that there has been no vigils, no rallies at the Wilson Building, no commemorative rides, no ghost bike, nothing. Just radio silence from the bike activists hoping that people won’t notice. It’s reveals what a shallow pathetic con this whole charade is.

Do we know whether his family wanted vigils or rallies? I do see they have a GoFundMe up: https://www.gofundme.com/f/support-michael-goldstones-healing

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Anonymous wrote:Actually I would think that bike lane advocates would welcome strict enforcement of cycling regulations and establishing new ones that take into consideration all commuters not just cyclists. After all safety is what’s important here right?

sure, you can enforce a bike rider harmlessly going through a red (often this is safer for the rider, but I digress) as soon as you give tickets to every single car rolling through stop signs. Cars literally never come to a full stop unless there is cross traffic.

A bicyclist going through a stop sign at full speed is far more dangerous than a car that you think didn't technically, 100 percent completely stop at a stop sign. It's disingenuous to pretend they're the same thing.

That why there are so many people killed by bicyclists and not people driving cars. Oh nevermind, the data says it's the opposite. Huh.

There would be many more if there were more cyclists, and the last cyclist killed in DC was killed by …. ANOTHER CYCLIST.

But, bro: drivers hate you, pedestrians hate you, and even other cyclists hate you. Maybe it’s time for you ask AITA?

get a grip. I don’t know what kind of psychodrama the sight of a bike triggers in you, but it’s really weird.

You hate it when people bring up facts that don’t fit your narrative. Sorry, bro. Facts are facts. The last cyclist killed in DC was in fact killed by another cyclist.

DP. This is obviously a tragedy, and I hope the police prosecute the surviving rider if she violated the law.

But I also don't think the fact that there was a fatal bike crash involving another bike means that's the only thing anyone needs to ever think about related to making it safer to ride a bike in D.C. You would not, for instance, say that the homicide by stabbing committed in southwest D.C. in April means the police should never worry about gun crimes.

Using this horrible death as some sort of weird cudgel or gotcha over public policy questions that long predate this incident doesn't really make it seem like you care any more about the man who died in this crash than the people you're hectoring about it.

Yes, it was a tragedy. But the bike bros love exploiting tragedies as weird cudgels when there’s a car involved, even when the cyclist was doing something illegal and objectively dangerous. The bike crowd also likes to claim that no one gets killed by cyclists. Sorry you don’t like the facts or the shoe being on the other foot.

Nice strawman with the knife murder. You must have a farm with all that straw you throw around.

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Anonymous wrote:Actually I would think that bike lane advocates would welcome strict enforcement of cycling regulations and establishing new ones that take into consideration all commuters not just cyclists. After all safety is what’s important here right?

sure, you can enforce a bike rider harmlessly going through a red (often this is safer for the rider, but I digress) as soon as you give tickets to every single car rolling through stop signs. Cars literally never come to a full stop unless there is cross traffic.

A bicyclist going through a stop sign at full speed is far more dangerous than a car that you think didn't technically, 100 percent completely stop at a stop sign. It's disingenuous to pretend they're the same thing.

That why there are so many people killed by bicyclists and not people driving cars. Oh nevermind, the data says it's the opposite. Huh.

There would be many more if there were more cyclists, and the last cyclist killed in DC was killed by …. ANOTHER CYCLIST.

But, bro: drivers hate you, pedestrians hate you, and even other cyclists hate you. Maybe it’s time for you ask AITA?

get a grip. I don’t know what kind of psychodrama the sight of a bike triggers in you, but it’s really weird.

You hate it when people bring up facts that don’t fit your narrative. Sorry, bro. Facts are facts. The last cyclist killed in DC was in fact killed by another cyclist.

DP. This is obviously a tragedy, and I hope the police prosecute the surviving rider if she violated the law.

But I also don't think the fact that there was a fatal bike crash involving another bike means that's the only thing anyone needs to ever think about related to making it safer to ride a bike in D.C. You would not, for instance, say that the homicide by stabbing committed in southwest D.C. in April means the police should never worry about gun crimes.

Using this horrible death as some sort of weird cudgel or gotcha over public policy questions that long predate this incident doesn't really make it seem like you care any more about the man who died in this crash than the people you're hectoring about it.

Yes, it was a tragedy. But the bike bros love exploiting tragedies as weird cudgels when there’s a car involved, even when the cyclist was doing something illegal and objectively dangerous. The bike crowd also likes to claim that no one gets killed by cyclists. Sorry you don’t like the facts or the shoe being on the other foot.

Nice strawman with the knife murder. You must have a farm with all that straw you throw around.

Ah, so you're arguing with "the bike bros" and "the bike crowd," not with me, an actual person who supports bike lanes and also thinks the woman who killed this guy should go to jail if she broke the law. Good to have that cleared up.

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Anonymous wrote:Actually I would think that bike lane advocates would welcome strict enforcement of cycling regulations and establishing new ones that take into consideration all commuters not just cyclists. After all safety is what’s important here right?

sure, you can enforce a bike rider harmlessly going through a red (often this is safer for the rider, but I digress) as soon as you give tickets to every single car rolling through stop signs. Cars literally never come to a full stop unless there is cross traffic.

A bicyclist going through a stop sign at full speed is far more dangerous than a car that you think didn't technically, 100 percent completely stop at a stop sign. It's disingenuous to pretend they're the same thing.

That why there are so many people killed by bicyclists and not people driving cars. Oh nevermind, the data says it's the opposite. Huh.

There would be many more if there were more cyclists, and the last cyclist killed in DC was killed by …. ANOTHER CYCLIST.

But, bro: drivers hate you, pedestrians hate you, and even other cyclists hate you. Maybe it’s time for you ask AITA?

get a grip. I don’t know what kind of psychodrama the sight of a bike triggers in you, but it’s really weird.

You hate it when people bring up facts that don’t fit your narrative. Sorry, bro. Facts are facts. The last cyclist killed in DC was in fact killed by another cyclist.

DP. This is obviously a tragedy, and I hope the police prosecute the surviving rider if she violated the law.

But I also don't think the fact that there was a fatal bike crash involving another bike means that's the only thing anyone needs to ever think about related to making it safer to ride a bike in D.C. You would not, for instance, say that the homicide by stabbing committed in southwest D.C. in April means the police should never worry about gun crimes.

Using this horrible death as some sort of weird cudgel or gotcha over public policy questions that long predate this incident doesn't really make it seem like you care any more about the man who died in this crash than the people you're hectoring about it.

Yes, it was a tragedy. But the bike bros love exploiting tragedies as weird cudgels when there’s a car involved, even when the cyclist was doing something illegal and objectively dangerous. The bike crowd also likes to claim that no one gets killed by cyclists. Sorry you don’t like the facts or the shoe being on the other foot.

Nice strawman with the knife murder. You must have a farm with all that straw you throw around.

Ah, so you're arguing with "the bike bros" and "the bike crowd," not with me, an actual person who supports bike lanes and also thinks the woman who killed this guy should go to jail if she broke the law. Good to have that cleared up.

You have their talking points and debate style down perfectly so apologies for getting you confused with the bike bros. Maybe it’s just impossible to make a coherent argument for your position so it’s better to rely on strawman arguments and cherry picked facts.

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Anonymous wrote:Actually I would think that bike lane advocates would welcome strict enforcement of cycling regulations and establishing new ones that take into consideration all commuters not just cyclists. After all safety is what’s important here right?

sure, you can enforce a bike rider harmlessly going through a red (often this is safer for the rider, but I digress) as soon as you give tickets to every single car rolling through stop signs. Cars literally never come to a full stop unless there is cross traffic.

A bicyclist going through a stop sign at full speed is far more dangerous than a car that you think didn't technically, 100 percent completely stop at a stop sign. It's disingenuous to pretend they're the same thing.

That why there are so many people killed by bicyclists and not people driving cars. Oh nevermind, the data says it's the opposite. Huh.

There would be many more if there were more cyclists, and the last cyclist killed in DC was killed by …. ANOTHER CYCLIST.

But, bro: drivers hate you, pedestrians hate you, and even other cyclists hate you. Maybe it’s time for you ask AITA?

get a grip. I don’t know what kind of psychodrama the sight of a bike triggers in you, but it’s really weird.

You hate it when people bring up facts that don’t fit your narrative. Sorry, bro. Facts are facts. The last cyclist killed in DC was in fact killed by another cyclist.

DP. This is obviously a tragedy, and I hope the police prosecute the surviving rider if she violated the law.

But I also don't think the fact that there was a fatal bike crash involving another bike means that's the only thing anyone needs to ever think about related to making it safer to ride a bike in D.C. You would not, for instance, say that the homicide by stabbing committed in southwest D.C. in April means the police should never worry about gun crimes.

Using this horrible death as some sort of weird cudgel or gotcha over public policy questions that long predate this incident doesn't really make it seem like you care any more about the man who died in this crash than the people you're hectoring about it.

Yes, it was a tragedy. But the bike bros love exploiting tragedies as weird cudgels when there’s a car involved, even when the cyclist was doing something illegal and objectively dangerous. The bike crowd also likes to claim that no one gets killed by cyclists. Sorry you don’t like the facts or the shoe being on the other foot.

Nice strawman with the knife murder. You must have a farm with all that straw you throw around.

Ah, so you're arguing with "the bike bros" and "the bike crowd," not with me, an actual person who supports bike lanes and also thinks the woman who killed this guy should go to jail if she broke the law. Good to have that cleared up.

Okay. But how should the cycling infrastructure be changed to reduce do speeds and encourage safe practices? What sorts of traffic enforcement measures should compliment those infrastructure changes to make sure that it never happens again?

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Anonymous wrote:Actually I would think that bike lane advocates would welcome strict enforcement of cycling regulations and establishing new ones that take into consideration all commuters not just cyclists. After all safety is what’s important here right?

sure, you can enforce a bike rider harmlessly going through a red (often this is safer for the rider, but I digress) as soon as you give tickets to every single car rolling through stop signs. Cars literally never come to a full stop unless there is cross traffic.

A bicyclist going through a stop sign at full speed is far more dangerous than a car that you think didn't technically, 100 percent completely stop at a stop sign. It's disingenuous to pretend they're the same thing.

That why there are so many people killed by bicyclists and not people driving cars. Oh nevermind, the data says it's the opposite. Huh.

There would be many more if there were more cyclists, and the last cyclist killed in DC was killed by …. ANOTHER CYCLIST.

But, bro: drivers hate you, pedestrians hate you, and even other cyclists hate you. Maybe it’s time for you ask AITA?

get a grip. I don’t know what kind of psychodrama the sight of a bike triggers in you, but it’s really weird.

You hate it when people bring up facts that don’t fit your narrative. Sorry, bro. Facts are facts. The last cyclist killed in DC was in fact killed by another cyclist.

It’s fascinating that there has been no vigils, no rallies at the Wilson Building, no commemorative rides, no ghost bike, nothing. Just radio silence from the bike activists hoping that people won’t notice. It’s reveals what a shallow pathetic con this whole charade is.

Do we know whether his family wanted vigils or rallies? I do see they have a GoFundMe up: https://www.gofundme.com/f/support-michael-goldstones-healing

When gas the interest of the family ever been a reason?

The bike activist crowd in Montgomery County will do this crap without even bothering to find out the dead persons name. Because the actual person is beside the point.
https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/driver-on-probation-accused-of-killing-skateboarder-in-rockville-hit-and-run-ordered-held-without-bail/3602969/?amp=1

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Anonymous wrote:Actually I would think that bike lane advocates would welcome strict enforcement of cycling regulations and establishing new ones that take into consideration all commuters not just cyclists. After all safety is what’s important here right?

sure, you can enforce a bike rider harmlessly going through a red (often this is safer for the rider, but I digress) as soon as you give tickets to every single car rolling through stop signs. Cars literally never come to a full stop unless there is cross traffic.

A bicyclist going through a stop sign at full speed is far more dangerous than a car that you think didn't technically, 100 percent completely stop at a stop sign. It's disingenuous to pretend they're the same thing.

That why there are so many people killed by bicyclists and not people driving cars. Oh nevermind, the data says it's the opposite. Huh.

There would be many more if there were more cyclists, and the last cyclist killed in DC was killed by …. ANOTHER CYCLIST.

But, bro: drivers hate you, pedestrians hate you, and even other cyclists hate you. Maybe it’s time for you ask AITA?

get a grip. I don’t know what kind of psychodrama the sight of a bike triggers in you, but it’s really weird.

You hate it when people bring up facts that don’t fit your narrative. Sorry, bro. Facts are facts. The last cyclist killed in DC was in fact killed by another cyclist.

DP. This is obviously a tragedy, and I hope the police prosecute the surviving rider if she violated the law.

But I also don't think the fact that there was a fatal bike crash involving another bike means that's the only thing anyone needs to ever think about related to making it safer to ride a bike in D.C. You would not, for instance, say that the homicide by stabbing committed in southwest D.C. in April means the police should never worry about gun crimes.

Using this horrible death as some sort of weird cudgel or gotcha over public policy questions that long predate this incident doesn't really make it seem like you care any more about the man who died in this crash than the people you're hectoring about it.

Yes, it was a tragedy. But the bike bros love exploiting tragedies as weird cudgels when there’s a car involved, even when the cyclist was doing something illegal and objectively dangerous. The bike crowd also likes to claim that no one gets killed by cyclists. Sorry you don’t like the facts or the shoe being on the other foot.

Nice strawman with the knife murder. You must have a farm with all that straw you throw around.

Ah, so you're arguing with "the bike bros" and "the bike crowd," not with me, an actual person who supports bike lanes and also thinks the woman who killed this guy should go to jail if she broke the law. Good to have that cleared up.

Okay. But how should the cycling infrastructure be changed to reduce do speeds and encourage safe practices? What sorts of traffic enforcement measures should compliment those infrastructure changes to make sure that it never happens again?

Those are good questions. I don't think I know enough about what happened in this case to answer. The fact that the man who died hit his head after falling does seem like a good argument for a helmet law, but the MPD release doesn't really have any details about the incident, nor did the news stories I've seen about it. I don't want to suggest it's his fault for dying, either

If, for instance, the guy was stopped at a light and the other rider plowed into him, that doesn't seem like an infrastructure change is needed. They were apparently going the same direction; maybe she tried to pass him and hit him instead? I've seen some near-collisions in bike lanes when that happens, so it wouldn't be a surprise. As someone who typically rides non-electric bikes, I'd be fine if e-bikes were required to travel in car lanes rather than bike lanes, but I don't know if drivers would be that excited about it.

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Anonymous wrote:Actually I would think that bike lane advocates would welcome strict enforcement of cycling regulations and establishing new ones that take into consideration all commuters not just cyclists. After all safety is what’s important here right?

sure, you can enforce a bike rider harmlessly going through a red (often this is safer for the rider, but I digress) as soon as you give tickets to every single car rolling through stop signs. Cars literally never come to a full stop unless there is cross traffic.

A bicyclist going through a stop sign at full speed is far more dangerous than a car that you think didn't technically, 100 percent completely stop at a stop sign. It's disingenuous to pretend they're the same thing.

That why there are so many people killed by bicyclists and not people driving cars. Oh nevermind, the data says it's the opposite. Huh.

There would be many more if there were more cyclists, and the last cyclist killed in DC was killed by …. ANOTHER CYCLIST.

But, bro: drivers hate you, pedestrians hate you, and even other cyclists hate you. Maybe it’s time for you ask AITA?

get a grip. I don’t know what kind of psychodrama the sight of a bike triggers in you, but it’s really weird.

You hate it when people bring up facts that don’t fit your narrative. Sorry, bro. Facts are facts. The last cyclist killed in DC was in fact killed by another cyclist.

It’s fascinating that there has been no vigils, no rallies at the Wilson Building, no commemorative rides, no ghost bike, nothing. Just radio silence from the bike activists hoping that people won’t notice. It’s reveals what a shallow pathetic con this whole charade is.

Do we know whether his family wanted vigils or rallies? I do see they have a GoFundMe up: https://www.gofundme.com/f/support-michael-goldstones-healing

When gas the interest of the family ever been a reason?

The bike activist crowd in Montgomery County will do this crap without even bothering to find out the dead persons name. Because the actual person is beside the point.
https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/driver-on-probation-accused-of-killing-skateboarder-in-rockville-hit-and-run-ordered-held-without-bail/3602969/?amp=1

That seems to be a story about a skateboarder that doesn't mention anything about bike activists, so I'm going to assume that since I (a) don't live in Montgomery County, (b) didn't know anything about this incident before you posted it, and (c) don't have anything to do with posting ghost bikes or ghost skateboards, I don't have any particular reason to answer for whatever was or wasn't going on here. I will also assume that you don't need to answer for the hit-and-run driver in that case, but let me know if for some reason I have that part wrong.

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Anonymous wrote:Actually I would think that bike lane advocates would welcome strict enforcement of cycling regulations and establishing new ones that take into consideration all commuters not just cyclists. After all safety is what’s important here right?

sure, you can enforce a bike rider harmlessly going through a red (often this is safer for the rider, but I digress) as soon as you give tickets to every single car rolling through stop signs. Cars literally never come to a full stop unless there is cross traffic.

A bicyclist going through a stop sign at full speed is far more dangerous than a car that you think didn't technically, 100 percent completely stop at a stop sign. It's disingenuous to pretend they're the same thing.

That why there are so many people killed by bicyclists and not people driving cars. Oh nevermind, the data says it's the opposite. Huh.

There would be many more if there were more cyclists, and the last cyclist killed in DC was killed by …. ANOTHER CYCLIST.

But, bro: drivers hate you, pedestrians hate you, and even other cyclists hate you. Maybe it’s time for you ask AITA?

get a grip. I don’t know what kind of psychodrama the sight of a bike triggers in you, but it’s really weird.

You hate it when people bring up facts that don’t fit your narrative. Sorry, bro. Facts are facts. The last cyclist killed in DC was in fact killed by another cyclist.

It’s fascinating that there has been no vigils, no rallies at the Wilson Building, no commemorative rides, no ghost bike, nothing. Just radio silence from the bike activists hoping that people won’t notice. It’s reveals what a shallow pathetic con this whole charade is.

Do we know whether his family wanted vigils or rallies? I do see they have a GoFundMe up: https://www.gofundme.com/f/support-michael-goldstones-healing

When gas the interest of the family ever been a reason?

The bike activist crowd in Montgomery County will do this crap without even bothering to find out the dead persons name. Because the actual person is beside the point.
https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/driver-on-probation-accused-of-killing-skateboarder-in-rockville-hit-and-run-ordered-held-without-bail/3602969/?amp=1

It does sort of seem like whoever nailed that skateboard up there did know the name of the guy who was killed, though, even though they didn't put his name on it, since the dead man's father said it was a neighbor and they also nailed photos of him to the pole.