Connecticut Ave bike lanes are back!

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Anonymous wrote:Is one of these surveys the Mary Cheh sponsored one?

Who conducted her sponsored survey?

I don't remember the name, but both CPCA and the now-defunct business association were involved.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I drove past the new Cleveland Park pedestrian zone last night at around 5:30. You know, the one that was supposed to revitalize that retail strip? It was a beautiful night. There were literally three people on it, and two of them were camped out outside the 7-11. There was no outdoor dining, there was no huge pedestrian presence, no one was patronizing any of the stores or restaurants. Completely desolate at 5:30 on a beautiful evening, and that's not the first time I've noticed how dead it is.

I'm absolutely surprised no one wants to do outdoor dining next to one of the busiest "stroads" in the city during rush hour. This is the fundamental problem of this strip that can't be fixed with a few bike lanes or parking tweaks. Its a fundamentally bad design, that has to compete with better designed places like the Wharf and Union Market. As more and better places for people are developed in the city and region, the worse things are going to get here.

This statement is 10000 percent untrue, and you know it. There is outdoor dining up and down Connecticut Avenue, but not on the newly pedestrianized stretch in Cleveland Park. Hell, there is outdoor dining *directly across the street* from the new pedestrian zone. So yes, despite sarcastic (and laughably untrue) claims from GGW sycophants, people are fine eating outside on Connecticut Avenue, but for some reason it is not happening in this one location that recently got a drastic alteration under the promise that it would encourage more streetside activity. In this regard, it's an absolute failure.

Are you arguing that the outdoor dining along CT is packed from 4-6PM on weekdays? It only ever seems "busy" outside of rush hour, wonder why that is?

Because dinner doesn't usually start at 4pm

Well, it does if you're a hoity-toity Cleveland Park boomer...

Smart-Aleck Growth ageism again. Just like Trump, they can’t help themselves.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I drove past the new Cleveland Park pedestrian zone last night at around 5:30. You know, the one that was supposed to revitalize that retail strip? It was a beautiful night. There were literally three people on it, and two of them were camped out outside the 7-11. There was no outdoor dining, there was no huge pedestrian presence, no one was patronizing any of the stores or restaurants. Completely desolate at 5:30 on a beautiful evening, and that's not the first time I've noticed how dead it is.

I'm absolutely surprised no one wants to do outdoor dining next to one of the busiest "stroads" in the city during rush hour. This is the fundamental problem of this strip that can't be fixed with a few bike lanes or parking tweaks. Its a fundamentally bad design, that has to compete with better designed places like the Wharf and Union Market. As more and better places for people are developed in the city and region, the worse things are going to get here.

This statement is 10000 percent untrue, and you know it. There is outdoor dining up and down Connecticut Avenue, but not on the newly pedestrianized stretch in Cleveland Park. Hell, there is outdoor dining *directly across the street* from the new pedestrian zone. So yes, despite sarcastic (and laughably untrue) claims from GGW sycophants, people are fine eating outside on Connecticut Avenue, but for some reason it is not happening in this one location that recently got a drastic alteration under the promise that it would encourage more streetside activity. In this regard, it's an absolute failure.

Are you arguing that the outdoor dining along CT is packed from 4-6PM on weekdays? It only ever seems "busy" outside of rush hour, wonder why that is?

Because dinner doesn't usually start at 4pm

You should walk around outside at Union Market or the Wharf at 4pm on a nice day, and tell us what you see.

I guess that’s because the Wharf and Union Market both have bike lanes?

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Anonymous wrote:The whole retail strip on Connecticut needs to be redone. It looks so old and antiquated. Drab and shabby little one-story shops, it looks like it should be in some small town in the 1950’s. The movie theater looks straight out of the 1930’s. I can practically smell the mildew driving by.

Remove all of it and replace it with something functional.

Sorry but Art Deco is now back in trend. You've gotten old. It happens.

I’m old at 33, huh?

Fascinating. Tell me more.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I drove past the new Cleveland Park pedestrian zone last night at around 5:30. You know, the one that was supposed to revitalize that retail strip? It was a beautiful night. There were literally three people on it, and two of them were camped out outside the 7-11. There was no outdoor dining, there was no huge pedestrian presence, no one was patronizing any of the stores or restaurants. Completely desolate at 5:30 on a beautiful evening, and that's not the first time I've noticed how dead it is.

I'm absolutely surprised no one wants to do outdoor dining next to one of the busiest "stroads" in the city during rush hour. This is the fundamental problem of this strip that can't be fixed with a few bike lanes or parking tweaks. Its a fundamentally bad design, that has to compete with better designed places like the Wharf and Union Market. As more and better places for people are developed in the city and region, the worse things are going to get here.

This statement is 10000 percent untrue, and you know it. There is outdoor dining up and down Connecticut Avenue, but not on the newly pedestrianized stretch in Cleveland Park. Hell, there is outdoor dining *directly across the street* from the new pedestrian zone. So yes, despite sarcastic (and laughably untrue) claims from GGW sycophants, people are fine eating outside on Connecticut Avenue, but for some reason it is not happening in this one location that recently got a drastic alteration under the promise that it would encourage more streetside activity. In this regard, it's an absolute failure.

Are you arguing that the outdoor dining along CT is packed from 4-6PM on weekdays? It only ever seems "busy" outside of rush hour, wonder why that is?

Because dinner doesn't usually start at 4pm

You should walk around outside at Union Market or the Wharf at 4pm on a nice day, and tell us what you see.

I guess that’s because the Wharf and Union Market both have bike lanes?

You don't find it odd that two areas with worse free-parking situations, farther from metro and farther from the rich part of the city have thriving dining scenes while CT Ave struggles? Why do you think that is?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The whole retail strip on Connecticut needs to be redone. It looks so old and antiquated. Drab and shabby little one-story shops, it looks like it should be in some small town in the 1950’s. The movie theater looks straight out of the 1930’s. I can practically smell the mildew driving by.

Remove all of it and replace it with something functional.

Sorry but Art Deco is now back in trend. You've gotten old. It happens.

I’m old at 33, huh?

Fascinating. Tell me more.

You no longer know what's trendy and have outdated tastes. It happens to everyone.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The whole retail strip on Connecticut needs to be redone. It looks so old and antiquated. Drab and shabby little one-story shops, it looks like it should be in some small town in the 1950’s. The movie theater looks straight out of the 1930’s. I can practically smell the mildew driving by.

Remove all of it and replace it with something functional.

Sorry but Art Deco is now back in trend. You've gotten old. It happens.

I’m old at 33, huh?

Fascinating. Tell me more.

Sorry to break it to you but yes. After age 25, it’s over. You will never be “fresh” or “cool” again. Might as well just start grilling and move to the suburbs to be put out to pasture

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The whole retail strip on Connecticut needs to be redone. It looks so old and antiquated. Drab and shabby little one-story shops, it looks like it should be in some small town in the 1950’s. The movie theater looks straight out of the 1930’s. I can practically smell the mildew driving by.

Remove all of it and replace it with something functional.

Sorry but Art Deco is now back in trend. You've gotten old. It happens.

I’m old at 33, huh?

Fascinating. Tell me more.

You no longer know what's trendy and have outdated tastes. It happens to everyone.

When did it happen to you?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The whole retail strip on Connecticut needs to be redone. It looks so old and antiquated. Drab and shabby little one-story shops, it looks like it should be in some small town in the 1950’s. The movie theater looks straight out of the 1930’s. I can practically smell the mildew driving by.

Remove all of it and replace it with something functional.

Sorry but Art Deco is now back in trend. You've gotten old. It happens.

I’m old at 33, huh?

Fascinating. Tell me more.

Sorry to break it to you but yes. After age 25, it’s over. You will never be “fresh” or “cool” again. Might as well just start grilling and move to the suburbs to be put out to pasture

I hadn’t even started my residency at 25. Do you really want a 25 year old orthopedic surgeon replacing your mom’s hip?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The whole retail strip on Connecticut needs to be redone. It looks so old and antiquated. Drab and shabby little one-story shops, it looks like it should be in some small town in the 1950’s. The movie theater looks straight out of the 1930’s. I can practically smell the mildew driving by.

Remove all of it and replace it with something functional.

Sorry but Art Deco is now back in trend. You've gotten old. It happens.

I’m old at 33, huh?

Fascinating. Tell me more.

You no longer know what's trendy and have outdated tastes. It happens to everyone.

When did it happen to you?

When I had kids of course. The good news is that trends come back. In a few decades your bland turn of the century hotel aesethetic will be back in vogue. But the bad news is that what you like is now tacky.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The whole retail strip on Connecticut needs to be redone. It looks so old and antiquated. Drab and shabby little one-story shops, it looks like it should be in some small town in the 1950’s. The movie theater looks straight out of the 1930’s. I can practically smell the mildew driving by.

Remove all of it and replace it with something functional.

Sorry but Art Deco is now back in trend. You've gotten old. It happens.

I’m old at 33, huh?

Fascinating. Tell me more.

Sorry to break it to you but yes. After age 25, it’s over. You will never be “fresh” or “cool” again. Might as well just start grilling and move to the suburbs to be put out to pasture

I hadn’t even started my residency at 25. Do you really want a 25 year old orthopedic surgeon replacing your mom’s hip?

Oh, you're a neophyte surgeon. Makes sense.

[Anonymous]

So new problem. The bikers are not using the new bike lanes. They refuse to use the bike lanes and ride in the street. This cause traffic to back up because the street is now narrower or has lost a lane of the unused bike lane.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I drove past the new Cleveland Park pedestrian zone last night at around 5:30. You know, the one that was supposed to revitalize that retail strip? It was a beautiful night. There were literally three people on it, and two of them were camped out outside the 7-11. There was no outdoor dining, there was no huge pedestrian presence, no one was patronizing any of the stores or restaurants. Completely desolate at 5:30 on a beautiful evening, and that's not the first time I've noticed how dead it is.

I'm absolutely surprised no one wants to do outdoor dining next to one of the busiest "stroads" in the city during rush hour. This is the fundamental problem of this strip that can't be fixed with a few bike lanes or parking tweaks. Its a fundamentally bad design, that has to compete with better designed places like the Wharf and Union Market. As more and better places for people are developed in the city and region, the worse things are going to get here.

This statement is 10000 percent untrue, and you know it. There is outdoor dining up and down Connecticut Avenue, but not on the newly pedestrianized stretch in Cleveland Park. Hell, there is outdoor dining *directly across the street* from the new pedestrian zone. So yes, despite sarcastic (and laughably untrue) claims from GGW sycophants, people are fine eating outside on Connecticut Avenue, but for some reason it is not happening in this one location that recently got a drastic alteration under the promise that it would encourage more streetside activity. In this regard, it's an absolute failure.

Are you arguing that the outdoor dining along CT is packed from 4-6PM on weekdays? It only ever seems "busy" outside of rush hour, wonder why that is?

Because dinner doesn't usually start at 4pm

You should walk around outside at Union Market or the Wharf at 4pm on a nice day, and tell us what you see.

I guess that’s because the Wharf and Union Market both have bike lanes?

You don't find it odd that two areas with worse free-parking situations, farther from metro and farther from the rich part of the city have thriving dining scenes while CT Ave struggles? Why do you think that is?

Vibrantdenseandtallmixeduseurbanistsmartgrowthbuzz?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So new problem. The bikers are not using the new bike lanes. They refuse to use the bike lanes and ride in the street. This cause traffic to back up because the street is now narrower or has lost a lane of the unused bike lane.

It’s their right to ride in the street.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The whole retail strip on Connecticut needs to be redone. It looks so old and antiquated. Drab and shabby little one-story shops, it looks like it should be in some small town in the 1950’s. The movie theater looks straight out of the 1930’s. I can practically smell the mildew driving by.

Remove all of it and replace it with something functional.

Sorry but Art Deco is now back in trend. You've gotten old. It happens.

I’m old at 33, huh?

Fascinating. Tell me more.

Sorry to break it to you but yes. After age 25, it’s over. You will never be “fresh” or “cool” again. Might as well just start grilling and move to the suburbs to be put out to pasture

I hadn’t even started my residency at 25. Do you really want a 25 year old orthopedic surgeon replacing your mom’s hip?

Oh, you're a neophyte surgeon. Makes sense.

Whereas you’re just an a**hole. Makes sense.