New opposition petition to the Maury-Miner boundary proposal from DME

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Anonymous wrote:Fox News picked up the story. https://www.foxnews.com/media/plan-blend-predominantly-black-white-dc-schools-tense-debate-liberal-neighborhood

Their take is funny. It’s basically “liberals are hypocrites”.

what a f’in joke of a mess DME has created. for zero benefit to anyone, and now it’s on Fox news.

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DME rep at the Maury meeting tonight still sounds pretty gung-ho about the plan. This is going to be a long couple of years.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:DME rep at the Maury meeting tonight still sounds pretty gung-ho about the plan. This is going to be a long couple of years.

you need to absolutely grill them on how this helps failing Miner students. it’s honestly really distressing that they are doing this while making zero effort to improve academics there directly.

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Anonymous wrote:Fox News picked up the story. https://www.foxnews.com/media/plan-blend-predominantly-black-white-dc-schools-tense-debate-liberal-neighborhood

Their take is funny. It’s basically “liberals are hypocrites”.

I don’t doubt it. This particular case may be different but as Nikole Hannah Jones has pointed out, “blue” areas have some of the highest segregation in schools and (fairly well-off, white) liberal parents ALWAYS find 1,000 reasons to oppose plans to make schools less white/reflect area demographics whenever they are proposed.

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Anonymous wrote:Fox News picked up the story. https://www.foxnews.com/media/plan-blend-predominantly-black-white-dc-schools-tense-debate-liberal-neighborhood

Their take is funny. It’s basically “liberals are hypocrites”.

I don’t doubt it. This particular case may be different but as Nikole Hannah Jones has pointed out, “blue” areas have some of the highest segregation in schools and (fairly well-off, white) liberal parents ALWAYS find 1,000 reasons to oppose plans to make schools less white/reflect area demographics whenever they are proposed.

Nikole Hannah Jones is a massive hypocrite who almost certainly will send her kid to a private HS. She did NOT send her daughter to her IB school. She sought out a better option that had better test scores. NHJ would never send her daughter to Miner (or EH for that matter). A total joke.

I know that Ivy Tower diversity crowd and not a single one sends their kids to a school like Miner. Or even to Maury.

BTW I send my kid to EH. And Maury actually reflects DC demographics.

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Anonymous wrote:Fox News picked up the story. https://www.foxnews.com/media/plan-blend-predominantly-black-white-dc-schools-tense-debate-liberal-neighborhood

Their take is funny. It’s basically “liberals are hypocrites”.

I don’t doubt it. This particular case may be different but as Nikole Hannah Jones has pointed out, “blue” areas have some of the highest segregation in schools and (fairly well-off, white) liberal parents ALWAYS find 1,000 reasons to oppose plans to make schools less white/reflect area demographics whenever they are proposed.

Quoting a known liar and fabricator won’t help your cause.

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Anonymous wrote:Fox News picked up the story. https://www.foxnews.com/media/plan-blend-predominantly-black-white-dc-schools-tense-debate-liberal-neighborhood

Their take is funny. It’s basically “liberals are hypocrites”.

I don’t doubt it. This particular case may be different but as Nikole Hannah Jones has pointed out, “blue” areas have some of the highest segregation in schools and (fairly well-off, white) liberal parents ALWAYS find 1,000 reasons to oppose plans to make schools less white/reflect area demographics whenever they are proposed.

Quoting a known liar and fabricator won’t help your cause.

It makes me gnash my teeth because I personally know her circle and they are extremely financially & educationally privileged and there kids will NOT suffer academically at all. Meanwhile their dilettantish interventions lead to things like San Francisco undermining math education through supposedly anti-racist curriculum decisions like banning Algebra in middle school … these types care zero about actually educating kids at Miner, and care a LOT about posturing online and getting good media hits.

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Anonymous wrote:Fox News picked up the story. https://www.foxnews.com/media/plan-blend-predominantly-black-white-dc-schools-tense-debate-liberal-neighborhood

Their take is funny. It’s basically “liberals are hypocrites”.

I don’t doubt it. This particular case may be different but as Nikole Hannah Jones has pointed out, “blue” areas have some of the highest segregation in schools and (fairly well-off, white) liberal parents ALWAYS find 1,000 reasons to oppose plans to make schools less white/reflect area demographics whenever they are proposed.

Quoting a known liar and fabricator won’t help your cause.

It makes me gnash my teeth because I personally know her circle and they are extremely financially & educationally privileged and there kids will NOT suffer academically at all. Meanwhile their dilettantish interventions lead to things like San Francisco undermining math education through supposedly anti-racist curriculum decisions like banning Algebra in middle school … these types care zero about actually educating kids at Miner, and care a LOT about posturing online and getting good media hits.

A lot of well meaning progressive approaches to crime and education actually exacerbate the problem and lead to worse outcomes. “Violence interruptors” that don’t interrupt anything, restorative justice in schools, no bail, ap classes for all, like I’m sorry but you’re making the US dumber and less safe.

[Anonymous]

Librul Progressives are killing black folk!!!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:DME rep at the Maury meeting tonight still sounds pretty gung-ho about the plan. This is going to be a long couple of years.

DME sounded pretty into it, but also committed to a 2027 start and a multi year process after that. And DCPS would run the resulting working group, right?

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Anonymous wrote:DME rep at the Maury meeting tonight still sounds pretty gung-ho about the plan. This is going to be a long couple of years.

DME sounded pretty into it, but also committed to a 2027 start and a multi year process after that. And DCPS would run the resulting working group, right?

I’m not sure how committed they sounded to the 2027 start. For sure she emphasized the newness of both principals, but she also stressed that a lot of committee and community members wanted it sooner. I bet it moves to 2025 or 26.

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Anonymous wrote:Annoyingly, the article doesn't get to the heart of the matter: endemic low DCPS capacity and general incompetence. The UMC and white parents come off as selfish, elitist jerks in the WaPo when the truth is that they know that Maury is only so wonderful even without it being merged with a Title 1 school. When you've finally got a functional school in a dysfunctional system, after years of struggle on the part of neighborhood parents, don't mess with it. The inconvenient truth is that DCPS isn't doing a great job with the high SES kids they've got. There's a reason that more than a third of the Maury 4th graders (and most of the Brent 4th graders) don't return for 5th grade, and it's not because DCPS inspires great confidence in most upper grades UMC Hill parents. Risking killing a goose laying golden eggs won't improve matters.

The reason for this is middle school & 5th grade being the charter entry year. I don't disagree with what you're saying overall, but the 5th grade exodus is 100% driven by DCPS & DCPCSes having different MS entry years and has nothing to do with the quality of the elementary schools.

No one is leaving a DCPS for 5th if they have the programming they want in their by right middle school. The exodus is driven by what's missing in middle school. Fix that and the charters starting MS early would fold or change.

But this is harder for a DCPS middle school to do. A charter can come in and say "hey here's our approach to MS, if you are interested, do the lottery and grab a spot." As a new school without an existing student body, they can create this kind of offering without alienating existing families.

The problem DCPS schools face is that they have current students. EH and Eastern already have students enrolled. Many are OOB and there is a high at risk contingent. These schools struggle to say "Ok, here's how we're going to change the school to meet the needs and expectations of high SES IB families" without disregarding the needs of students who are currently enrolled.

This is actually a dynamic that also exists at Miner.

DCPS schools, because they must take all IB students and because they are relied upon by at risk kids in a way charters are not, do not have the same leeway as charters to create tantalizing programming for high SES kids. It's not a true education "marketplace" because DCPS has to educate the 50% of its students who are at risk and can't just focus on those that aren't.

DCPS is 47% at-risk. Charters are 49%. Both are educating at-risk kids and non-at-risk kids.

PP's point is that DCPS must take all kids IB, any day of the year, regardless of class sizes. Any charters stepping up to make that guarantee?

That wasn't their point. They specifically stated that that DCPS has to educate 50% of students who are at-risk and can't just focus on those who aren't. They, and charters, have to focus on both. While you may not believe it or acknowledge it, there are actually at-risk kids who can take rigorous math courses. Those who can should have access to those courses.

No, my point was actually about directionality. Charters choose their approach and invite students to them. So the at-risk students in any given charter are at least bought in enough (or their families are) to go with whatever they are doing. So the charters have broad ability to do what they want and to let families self-select into their program.

DCPS doesn't work this way. Even at a school where many/most families are OOB, there is an expectation that DCPS will always move to meet kids where they are at. Other than a few programs (like SWS and CHMS, which are DCPS schools but which were able to develop their own approach and attract families to it), DCPS schools cannot simply tell families "this is what we do, take it or leave it." It is very, very hard for a boundary DCPS to introduce programs that don't serve the needs of its existing student body, even if there may be interest in the IB population.

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Anonymous wrote:Fox News picked up the story. https://www.foxnews.com/media/plan-blend-predominantly-black-white-dc-schools-tense-debate-liberal-neighborhood

Their take is funny. It’s basically “liberals are hypocrites”.

I don’t doubt it. This particular case may be different but as Nikole Hannah Jones has pointed out, “blue” areas have some of the highest segregation in schools and (fairly well-off, white) liberal parents ALWAYS find 1,000 reasons to oppose plans to make schools less white/reflect area demographics whenever they are proposed.

Nikole Hannah Jones is a massive hypocrite who almost certainly will send her kid to a private HS. She did NOT send her daughter to her IB school. She sought out a better option that had better test scores. NHJ would never send her daughter to Miner (or EH for that matter). A total joke.

I know that Ivy Tower diversity crowd and not a single one sends their kids to a school like Miner. Or even to Maury.

BTW I send my kid to EH. And Maury actually reflects DC demographics.

I remember reading her piece on choosing a school for her kid when we were doing the lottery, and it sound like their IB school actually was a school like Miner, but they found a school like Garrison or Amidon-Bowen. Well... yeah. If my IB school was Garrison or Amidon-Bowen, I'd be fine sending my kid there. But if my IB school is Miner, I'd want better for my kid. That doesn't make me racist, it makes me a good parent.

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Anonymous wrote:Fox News picked up the story. https://www.foxnews.com/media/plan-blend-predominantly-black-white-dc-schools-tense-debate-liberal-neighborhood

Their take is funny. It’s basically “liberals are hypocrites”.

I don’t doubt it. This particular case may be different but as Nikole Hannah Jones has pointed out, “blue” areas have some of the highest segregation in schools and (fairly well-off, white) liberal parents ALWAYS find 1,000 reasons to oppose plans to make schools less white/reflect area demographics whenever they are proposed.

Quoting a known liar and fabricator won’t help your cause.

It makes me gnash my teeth because I personally know her circle and they are extremely financially & educationally privileged and there kids will NOT suffer academically at all. Meanwhile their dilettantish interventions lead to things like San Francisco undermining math education through supposedly anti-racist curriculum decisions like banning Algebra in middle school … these types care zero about actually educating kids at Miner, and care a LOT about posturing online and getting good media hits.

A lot of well meaning progressive approaches to crime and education actually exacerbate the problem and lead to worse outcomes. “Violence interruptors” that don’t interrupt anything, restorative justice in schools, no bail, ap classes for all, like I’m sorry but you’re making the US dumber and less safe.

And similar to the discourse on marriage, the elite-class liberals who push these approaches actually never suffer the consequences of them and buy their ways out.

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Anonymous wrote:Fox News picked up the story. https://www.foxnews.com/media/plan-blend-predominantly-black-white-dc-schools-tense-debate-liberal-neighborhood

Their take is funny. It’s basically “liberals are hypocrites”.

I don’t doubt it. This particular case may be different but as Nikole Hannah Jones has pointed out, “blue” areas have some of the highest segregation in schools and (fairly well-off, white) liberal parents ALWAYS find 1,000 reasons to oppose plans to make schools less white/reflect area demographics whenever they are proposed.

Nikole Hannah Jones is a massive hypocrite who almost certainly will send her kid to a private HS. She did NOT send her daughter to her IB school. She sought out a better option that had better test scores. NHJ would never send her daughter to Miner (or EH for that matter). A total joke.

I know that Ivy Tower diversity crowd and not a single one sends their kids to a school like Miner. Or even to Maury.

BTW I send my kid to EH. And Maury actually reflects DC demographics.

I remember reading her piece on choosing a school for her kid when we were doing the lottery, and it sound like their IB school actually was a school like Miner, but they found a school like Garrison or Amidon-Bowen. Well... yeah. If my IB school was Garrison or Amidon-Bowen, I'd be fine sending my kid there. But if my IB school is Miner, I'd want better for my kid. That doesn't make me racist, it makes me a good parent.

Exactly. You get it.

The other thing that makes me laugh bitterly is “nice white parents” used as a slur. Excuse me, your ENTIRE theory here is literally that the presence of “nice white parents” will fix all of Miner’s problems.